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Carter Decries Destruction in Gaza
Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on a visit to Gaza that he had to "hold back tears" when he saw the destruction caused by the deadly campaign Israel waged against Gaza militants in January.
Ismail Haniya (R), the prime minister of the Islamist Hamas, movement presents a souvenir to former US President Jimmy Carter during their meeting in Gaza City. Carter on Tuesday met Hamas leader Ismail Haniya in the Gaza Strip, where he called for a lifting of Israel's blockade, saying Palestinians are being treated "like animals." (AFP/HO/Mohammed al-Ostaz)
Carter was wrapping up a visit to the region during which he met representatives of all sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Among the sites he visited was the American school that was destroyed by the bombings Israel initiated in response to rocket attacks launched from Gaza into southern Israel.
"It is very distressing to me. I have to hold back tears when I see the deliberate destruction that has been raked against your people.
"I come to the American school which was educating your children, supported by my own country. I see it's been deliberately destroyed by bombs from F16s made in my country and delivered to the Israelis. I feel partially responsible for this -- as must all Americans and all Israelis," Carter said at a news conference.
"The only way to avoid this tragedy happening again is to have genuine peace," he added, pointing out that many Palestinians are now fighting each other in the West Bank and Gaza because of their affiliations with Hamas or Fatah.
"It's very important that Palestinians agree with each other, to cooperate and stop attacking each other and to build a common approach to an election that I hope to witness and observe next January the 25th."
After the briefing, Carter headed to a graduation ceremony for students who completed a human rights curriculum provided by UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees.
"The human rights curriculum is teaching children about their rights and also about their responsibilities," Carter said in his speech to graduates.
In his speech to graduates, Carter said bombings, tanks and a continuing economic siege have brought death, destruction, pain and suffering to Gaza. "Tragically, the international community largely ignores the cries for help, while the citizens of Gaza are treated more like animals than human beings."
"The responsibility for this terrible human rights crime lies in Jerusalem, Cairo, Washington, and throughout the international community," Carter said.
At a news conference later in Tel Aviv, reporters asked the former president about media reports early Tuesday that said Hamas had thwarted a possible assassination plot against him.
The Israeli daily Maariv, quoting a Palestinian source, said explosives had been placed on a road Carter was due to travel on. Citing the source, the newspaper said it was a plot by an al Qaeda-affiliated group based in Gaza.
"I don't believe it's true," Carter said. "I don't know anything about it.
"None of our people were aware of being rerouted. I asked our driver and I asked the others in charge of making the arrangements, (and) they didn't know anything about it."
Carter said some of his staff asked Gaza's minister of interior, who is in charge of security, and he also was unfamiliar with the report.
Also in Gaza, Carter met with Hamas leaders, who he said "want peace and they want to have reconciliation not only with their Fatah brothers but also, eventually, with the Israelis to live side by side.
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Show AllIf there was an assassination plot, I doubt that the elusive al Qaeda was behind it.
Kudos to Jimmy Carter for his courage.
Agreed on both counts.
"....I see it's been deliberately destroyed by bombs from F16s made in my country and delivered to the Israelis. I feel partially responsible for this -- as must all Americans and all Israelis,"
jimmy carter speaks the truth....
...peace...
Carter, like all former presidents, doesn't travel anywhere without approval from the current Administration in power.
That's one of those things people tend to forget. He would not compromise the integrity of the US. Now knowing Carter is loyal to the Democratic Party, and the US country in general, what form of diplomacy is his visit intended to create?
How do you know that Carter isn't also loyal to a set of principles of human decency?
Or is that outside your realm and therefore inconceivable to you?
your love for loaded questions and circular reason is much admired.
I figured if I stated something so obvious I might indeed suffer a snarky shot.
Outside of my realm? I assume all presidents are also loyal to a set of principles of human decency, to me, it goes without saying. I should have mentioned this previously, but I did not to my chagrin.
Cool - if your intent was to point out that Carter may likely be acting out of principle, I applaud you.
Your post read differently.
odoco
Your last question about what type of diplomacy he is attempting to facilitate, etc.is legitimate, but I seriously doubt that Carter sought the prior approval of the Bush admin during his travels between 2001 and 2008?
He has been, more than any other former president, his own beacon, and that beacon has consistently attempted to shine the light on humanitarian concerns we should all be cognizant of.
I think you assumptions about his allegiance to the present Democratic Party may be a bit off course; I think he would as readily part with Obama as he did Bush if Obama continues to pursue Repuglicanistic policies.
I'm certain your doubts are more reasonable than my assertions.
I am not just pulling this out of thin air. At this time here's my only referenced example I've dug up. I'm still looking for a quote from Carter several years back when someone challenged his integrity and his trips, and he said he always informed the White House of his plans.
Last time Jimmy Carter met with Hamas was last year, and before embarking on his trip, he informed then Sec of State Condi Rice office.
..."However, perhaps inadvertently, she is continuing to make a statement that is not true. No one in the State Department or any other department of the U.S. government ever asked him to refrain from his recent visit to the Middle East or even suggested that he not meet with Syrian President Assad or leaders of Hamas."
Before departing on the April 13 through 22 trip to Nepal, Israel, the West Bank, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, "President Carter placed a telephone call to Ms. Rice to describe his itinerary and to inform her of his intended conversations."....
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/23/carter.rice.hamas/index.html
As far as the other points, that he doesn't compromise the integrity of the US. I think that's a no-brainer even though he's been attacked for allegedly undermining the US. I think that's odd seeing how he runs his goals by the WH first. The implication being, as is illustrated in the CNN piece, is that if Carter received message from the WH not to go or to refrain from subject matters, he would indeed tailor his itinerary for the sake of the US affairs.
Asserting he is loyal to the Democratic Party doesn't imply he won't speak his mind. Nor does this common assertion diminish his humanitarian concerns or any positive deeds he's accomplished.
odoco
chuc it - good reference on the notification to State.
I would stress that he notified them of his itinerary, meaning to me that he had already planned the trip in advance of receiving the blessings of the White House or the State Department. The 'chicken and the egg' thing . . .
I also recall Carter being castigated by the right-wing press for not acting 'post-presidential,' meaning that he was sometimes openly critical of at least some of the Bush foreign policy initiatives. Was this just a bit of Kabuki, or do you think there were honest misgivings on either side?
I appreciate your comments and your perspectives.
Kabuki references public conflict between Rice/WH 'or any other department' and Carter? I don't know, my assumption is Carter didn't get any red flags, and went forward and perhaps was caught off balance by Rice. Hence his spokeswoman reference... "perhaps inadvertently, she is continuing to make a statement that is not true."....
And because I can't find my other reference I can't reinforce my point that Carter isn't going out with the intent to undermine the authority of the WH.
As far as chickens and eggs, I certainly understand the importance of seeing former presidents as impartial from other presidents. It gives us a sense of balance and proportion. I also understand today's political party structure is based on candidates rather than "party" and therefore voters tend to see the individual candidate separate from the larger party --and politicians often act outside typical restraints of party.
As far as openly critical. Carter was critical of Clinton and Bush. NYT EdOp by Carter clearly laid out his disagreement from Bush over the Iraq War. Carter has also recently challenged Obama's policies too. I believe part of Carter's role is to push the ball forward, so to speak. And is expected to push, or say things, and go to areas, formal foreign affairs do not allow the US government free access. There are countries the US doesn't have direct contact with for various reasons, but that doesn't mean all avenues are closed.
An analogy i like to us is dialogue with Iran. Obama won favor among the ranks of voters for saying he would talk with Iran. Hillary Clinton said, "not without preconditions"... later Obama added that clause. However, people assume the US isn't speaking with Iran. That's hardly true. The US is and has informally and indirectly been in communication with Iran for years.
I don't know if any of this seems reasonable since I'm being rather general.
chuk-it-levi-strauss,
i don't know if this helps answer your question, from this morning's nyt's.
Carter, in Gaza, Urges Hamas to Meet Demands,
TAGHREED EL-KHODARY and ISABEL KERSHNER - Published: June 16, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/world/middleeast/17mideast.html?_r=1&hp
"Mr. Carter, 84, emphasized that he was in Gaza as a private citizen, not as a representative of his government. But he said he would write a report on his visit to the region for the Obama administration on his return."
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also, more proof that gaza is an open air prison...
nyt's (above)....
"In a related development on Tuesday, two Israeli groups that advocate for Palestinians, HaMoked and Gisha, revealed a new Israeli procedure that makes it impossible for Gaza residents to move to the West Bank in all but the most exceptional of cases. For example, the groups said, under the policy, chronically ill patients, orphans and elderly invalids will not be able to receive care from their closest relatives living in the West Bank if they have any relatives in Gaza capable of caring for them.
In a paper presented to Israel’s Supreme Court in reply to several petitions against the policy, the Israeli Ministry of Defense contended that it was necessary given the current security and political situation in Gaza.
The advocacy groups said the policy served to further isolate Gaza while increasing the geographic and political separation between Gaza and the West Bank."
...peace...
Thanks. Nice additional data!
Carter as a private citizen is afforded access an official representative of the US government wouldn't be granted publicly and can go where formal foreign affairs would potentially be bogged down by political implications. etc...
I think it is all very compelling, and I can't wait to see Mr Carter's formal report and assessment for the US government.
Re chuk-it-levi-strauss June 16th, 2009 7:05 pm, who says
"Carter, like all former presidents, doesn't travel anywhere without approval from the current Administration in power."
This seems to suggest that, as president in 1980, Carter would have had to know of and approve Bill Casey's treasonous side deal with the Iranian Embassy hostage takers, which I find implausible. Surely there must be some exceptions?
So if the Administration doesn't approve, Carter can't travel.
Why am I not believing this?
No and no.
Read my further dialogue with odoco.
What I should have said was...
Carter, like all former presidents, notifies current Administration of their travel plans. If there were serious conflicts of interests, Carter would not risk undermining US foreign affairs (think treason). Part of Carter's role is to go to places formal diplomacy can't venture. One should assume Mr Carter is indeed acting with the interest of the US foremost in his pursuit for international peace and stability.
Knowing Carter is a Democratic politician and also a past president who's loyalty to this country is undeniable, what will be the formal assessment for the US diplomatic mission that Mr Carter will forward on to the current president?
Think treason?
Why are you even bringing this up?
What relevance does it have?
Seriously - the only reason to post it is to throw noise into the thread.
give yourself a pat on your back for creating nothing out of nothing.
you protest much.
CONGRATULATIONS TO chuk
FOR GETTING THE ZIONIST TROLL AWARD
IN DERAILING THIS THREAD ON A BOGUS POINT (Claiming that Carter could only travel if given permission by the Administration)
IN AN ATTEMPT TO DEMONIZE CARTER BY SPECULATING THAT HE WAS ACTING OUT OF ULTERIOR MOTIVES
You Zionist Trolls are the BEST!! You're really good - you had the thread going for a while.
My hat's off to you. That's not sarcasm. I really admire how you pulled that off. Congrats.
odoco
Ah yes, now the Israeli press reports that 'an Al-Qaeda affiliated group' has infiltrated Gaza! Of course, I should have known . . . . . I bet Bin Laden is also there, and probably those damned missing weapons of mass destruction!
Jimmy Carter the only US president willing to speak the truth. May God bless him.
Jimmy Carter was one of our most decent and ethical Presidents. And now he has become one of our most decent and ethical preidents.
Jimmy Carter was one of our most decent and ethical Presidents. And now he has become one of our most decent and ethical preidents.
Mr Carter has got it wrong. The Israelis treat the Palestinians worse than animals!
I'm glad he made the point that the destruction was caused by American munitions and planes. It ties the U.S. in with the Israeli destruction and genocide!
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"Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on a visit to Gaza that he had to "hold back tears" when he saw the destruction caused by the deadly campaign Israel waged against Gaza militants in January"
I think you can safely leave out the word "militants" in that sentence.
Re Sanctuary June 17th, 2009 2:36 am
Point taken. Also from the article:
"...the bombings Israel initiated in response to rocket attacks launched from Gaza into southern Israel."
Notice that, to CNN and corporate media in general, Israel is always responding to violence, never initiating it for its own purposes.
Jethro 9:10am
Exactly, and to substantiate that line of thought the Israeli administration has openly expressed delight at the re-election of their favourite hard-liner bete-noire Ahmadinejad in Iran. An otherwise strange and unexpected preference, it is expedient for mainly one purpose -initiating an attack on Iran and justifying it, something a rather more conciliatory and moderate Iranian president might stymy.
Go JC. Carter's decency is why he was selected after Watergate & Nam, to heal this country's torn asunder soul.
He was too decent for a 2nd term.
However he has articulated truth for decades now. Where it is scarce-where the US goes.
GO
JC
Having very recently been in Gaza as part of a UN-invited delegation, I would conclude that any plans of assassinating Jimmy Carter would not originate with Hamas or Fatah. The people of Gaza are thrilled with the increasing attention to their cause from the world outside their prison and would only welcome the credibility brought to them by the Carter visit. I would personally be more likely to suspect right-wing Zionists, if such a plot existed at all.
Americans need to take another look at what Jimmy Carter is saying.
Carter has repeatedly warned about the injustices being done to the Palestinian people. This just isn't right.