Déjà Vu: Obama Plans to Send 34,000 More Troops to Afghanistan
WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama met Monday evening with his national security team to finalize a plan to dispatch some 34,000 additional U.S. troops over the next year to what he's called "a war of necessity" in Afghanistan, U.S. officials told McClatchy.
Obama is expected to announce his long-awaited decision on Dec. 1, followed by meetings on Capitol Hill aimed at winning congressional support amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury and whether Afghanistan has become a quagmire, the officials said.
The U.S. officials all spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the issue publicly and because, one official said, the White House is incensed by leaks on its Afghanistan policy that didn't originate in the White House.
They said the commander of the U.S.-led international force in Afghanistan, Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, could arrive in Washington as early as Sunday to participate in the rollout of the new plan, including testifying before Congress toward the end of next week. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry also are expected to appear before congressional committees.
As it now stands, the plan calls for the deployment over a nine-month period beginning in March of three Army brigades from the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky., and the 10th Mountain Division at Fort Drum, N.Y., and a Marine brigade from Camp Lejeune, N.C., for as many as 23,000 additional combat and support troops.
In addition, a 7,000-strong division headquarters would be sent to take command of U.S.-led NATO forces in southern Afghanistan - to which the U.S. has long been committed - and 4,000 U.S. military trainers would be dispatched to help accelerate an expansion of the Afghan army and police.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is expected to brief America's NATO allies after next week's announcement, and the allies are to meet again on Dec. 7 in Belgium to discuss whether some other nations might contribute additional troops.
The Monday evening meeting was the ninth that Obama has held on the crisis in Afghanistan, where the worsening war entered its ninth year last month. This year has seen violence reach unprecedented levels as the Taliban and allied groups have gained strength and expanded their reach.
A U.S. military official used the term "decisional" to describe Monday evening's meeting among Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Gates, Clinton, National Security Adviser Jim Jones, Eikenberry and senior U.S. military commanders.
The administration's plan contains "off-ramps," points starting next June at which Obama could decide to continue the flow of troops, halt the deployments and adopt a more limited strategy or "begin looking very quickly at exiting" the country, depending on political and military progress, one defense official said.
"We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it," the U.S. defense official said.
It's "not just how we get people there, but what's the strategy for getting them out," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday.
The approach is driven in part by concerns that Afghan President Hamid Karzai won't keep his promises to root out corruption and support political reforms, and in part by growing domestic opposition to the war, the U.S. officials said.
As McClatchy reported last month, the Obama administration has been quietly working with U.S. allies and Afghan officials on an "Afghanistan Compact," a package of political reforms and anti-corruption measures that it hopes will boost popular support for Karzai and erase the doubts about his legitimacy raised by his fraud-tainted re-election.
The British government is offering to host a conference early next year to win international support for the compact.
Last week, Clinton suddenly adopted a more conciliatory tone toward Karzai, whom she and other administration officials had been pressing to clean up the rampant corruption and cut his ties to local warlords, some of whom traffic in opium.
In an interview with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, she said that Karzai had demonstrated "good faith" and added: "Well, there are warlords and there are warlords."
As part of its new plan, the administration, which remains skeptical of Karzai, will "work around him" by working directly with provincial and district leaders, a senior U.S. defense official told McClatchy.
The plan adopted by Obama would fall well short of the 80,000 troops McChrystal suggested in August as a "low-risk option" that would offer the best chance to contain the Taliban-led insurgency and stabilize Afghanistan.
It splits the difference between two other McChrystal options: a "high-risk" approach that called for 20,000 additional troops and a "medium-risk" option that would add 40,000 to 45,000 troops.
There are 68,000 U.S. troops and 42,000 from other countries in Afghanistan. The U.S. Army's recently revised counterinsurgency manual estimates that an all-out counterinsurgency campaign in a country with Afghanistan's population would require about 600,000 troops.
The administration's plan is expected to encounter opposition on Capitol Hill, where some senior Democrats have suggested that the administration may need to raise taxes in order to pay for the additional troops.
Obama campaigned saying that he'd fund the Iraq and Afghanistan wars from the defense budget, but Mullen has said that the Afghan war - which some administration officials privately concede could cost $700 billion to $1 trillion over 10 years - might require a supplemental funding bill next year.
The administration's protracted deliberations have escalated into open warfare between McChrystal and his supporters and advocates of a more limited strategy led by Biden and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel that often played out in dueling leaks to news organizations.
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Show AllYep. This is good... And when it's all over the USan Empire will be no more. And for that, we citizens of the world shall be grateful.
"I pledge allegiance to the Earth and to the flora, fauna and human life that it supports. One planet indivisible, with safe air, water & soil, economic justice, equal rights and peace for all."~~~WEDO (Women's Environment & Development Organization). *So Be It!*
Yes! :)
Good to see you WC!)
Maybe it is our nations karma.The white man kept the blacks in slavery, so now it is their turn to keep the whites in slavery? Or like they say, what comes around goes around.
Obama is the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE winner. He is for peace, Those Nobel folks said so!
Lysistrata convinces the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace
what if they are gay? or not married? have no girlfriend?
Or are Catholic priests?
For those of you who are entertaining the thoughts of an uprising, forget it, they came prepared with the {bush}
Halliburton Detention Centers that are not going to waste.
We must fall in line and go along to get along like our congressmen. We need enough troops to occupy the country while we build the Pipeline that will carry all that oil to waiting ships near India. How about it Exxcon and Unocal, are you ready?
dang that Bush, still in power!
I don't understand all this chatter of betrayal.
Pushing the pawns into Afg. was part of his campaign platform,
as well as continued manning of the newly built forts in Iraq.
He is fulfilling his promise.
Perhaps you weren't listening.
Exactly correct. Very early in his campaign, Obama indicated he wanted to enlarge the US military and step up the war in Afghanistan. Look people, don't be stupid - if you voted for him after hearing that, then you're in that catagory. Wise up.
In simple terms: Perhaps some saw Obama as the last hope for justice. That a man, who's race rose from slavery, would, somehow, free us all and bring about the end of our evil ways. The last real hope for humanity. At least, I had that overall feeling.
Nah. They'd never let THAT kind of guy occupy the (White) House.
Sorry, but Obama's family didn't rise from slavery.
"Last hope for justice", get real. His party took impeachment off the table.
He spoke of prolonged war the whole campaign and you interpreted that as the last hope for humanity. Oh, my!
People heard what they wanted to hear so they could hope what they wanted to hope. Please don't blame people caught last year on the tri-horned dilemma: Obama or McCain or third-party... All useless choices in a dead democracy. No wonder so many are angry and disappointed. More and more are coming to understand that the USA is NOT a democracy and we, the electorate, have less power than pawns in the game of chess (until and unless we take back power, if we can ever get off our asses in sufficient numbers to force changes). If one is not wealthy enough to buy one's own politician, forget representation! We don't "run" Obomber, and the people who do don't give a shit what we want. So, "our" politicians just bow and scrape to their masters, as did Bush, as did Clinton, ad nauseum.
The question is, given that we now live under tyranny, will we rise up?
Personally, I'm both sceptical and bitter, so my money's on, "No, we will not."
"people caught last year on the tri-horned dilemma: Obama or McCain or third-party... All useless choices in a dead democracy." –(FastEddie75)
–Correct.
But the point is to KNOW, ultimately that the American democracy IS dead and not pretend that it is not DEAD. The advent of the Obama Presidency should nail the last coffin into the casket of the rapidly putrefying corpse and the era of political sentimentality and bad faith.
That may turn out to be his greatest accomplishment: He has finally smashed all the pretenses of hope to the point that even recalcitrant idiots have no choice but to acknowledge the savage finality of what is no longer in dispute.
The point for the future being to build on the zombie remnants of the past but to formulate a politics which categorically rejects them without apology.
Those who disparage in advance the possibilities of spontaneous or spasmodic insurrections as being totally quixotic and impossible are like those charlatans like Francis Fukiyama who believed in the "end of history.
History, in all its rough heterogeneity, has a way of surprising the most obdurate fatalists and ractionaries. There will be interregnums, but as Lenin said all one can do is "Learn, learn and learn." –(Jill Bains).
Over, and over, and over..... It wold be so much easier if we admitted to being an empire and just went in and crushed the little opium growers (or rice growers, or whatever kind of farmer who is in our way). Then we wouldn't have to go through all this political bull shit. The results are always the same. It's so boring. After all, I've seen this show before. Just getting old, I guess.
Crash the opium growers? Are you kidding, George? How would the rich and famous get high then?
Am I the first on this thread to use the term, "doublecrossed"? As in feeling doublecrossed, which leads to a sense of anger and shame and self-loathing for having been duped?
Is it possible that the psy-ops of the Masters of the Universe could have planned this reaction all along, to debilitate anything that remains of the liberal-left in this country? After all, so great has been the betrayal of his "base." Given all that has occurred in the past year or two, is that paranoia?
Or, is Venezuela's Hugo Chavez right on the mark when he asked Obama, "Are you a prisoner?" (Was there a reply?)
That question could accelerate history. Certainly the rest of the world heard it even if the American people did not.
CD seems to be, becoming, the "Horkheimer & Adorno" of the Existential Left. Nothing wrong with that, as it leads straight to the Magical Realism of the American South (of the Equator: hundred years of solitude; thence to that Islamish [sic] writer who was Fatwawed [sic] by the Ayatollah for writing the best female butterfly disquisition in the history of world literature). (As an aside relating to the so-called "health-care debate" we would not be ill-advised to again read "The Birth of the Clinic," Michel Foucault. Also, his "Madness & Civilization.")
Then there is Noam Chomsky, who, after establishing Semantics as a science at MIT, entered the political arena with his "American Power and the New Mandarins," which declared the War on Viet Nam merely an extension of all the previous wars.
Finally, to mcoyote and Struggle, thanks for the reminder on the nature of the dialectic. It's been a while. Not the be all and end all, but certainly in the right direction. Second law of thermodynamics. I'm beginning to have doubts! Paralax? Parabola? Pretty soon, if the bullshit keeps attacking our brains we will forget how to light a candle.
I am very angry. It is affecting my health. I did not come into this world for the purpose of being angry. I came here to love. I am really disappointed.
Fascists hate butterflies. Regardless of gender. Thus Monsanto, DuPont, et al.
End the Fatwah, World, against CREATIVITY. I am SICK UNTO DEATH of this Oppression against the Soul of Mankind. It has taken us many thousands of years to become sentient (through language). Sorry to inject this tiny item, but we differ from our closest relatives by the ability of Language, and we differ from them in having a larger NECK nerve channel for linguistic capacity. It isn't just the big brain; it is also the NECK channel for the capacity for speech. Then there is the issue of how speech gets organized, which it does! WHY? HOW?
One more thing. Thanks, teddy. Sometimes it is good to think of the Internet as just an old typewriter. Try collecting them at Saturday yard sales, then get the "carbonblack" and the oils that worked the ribbon. I have hope for many of the next generation. Now might be the time to collect old typewriters. And the ribbons. If possible. Movable type.
what a concept.
It is really getting hard to remain an "Idealist." Could it be that there exist at least two types of anarchy?
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OleManRiver November 25th, 2009 4:11 am
Am I the first on this thread to use the term, "doublecrossed"? As in feeling doublecrossed, which leads to a sense of anger and shame and self-loathing for having been duped?
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Perhaps you are the first and only one, OleMan, the rest of us didn't believe that Obama was a savior. Many of us recognized him as more of the same. Many more saw him as the lesser of two evils, although how that has been manifested, I dunno.
There is language, and there is language. We have corrupted our language, and if there were such a thing as a just God would be struck mute. I think a better image of humanity would be an ape who shits in his own nest. What good language compared to that?
What if he can't get any Republican votes for funding? Maybe the oppositionists won't break their habit, and how do they oppose the onerous burden of the Health Care Finance Bill, then turn around and fund a more expensive war.
Seriously, Obama screwed the pooch on this.
Everything done for an unstable government will collapse simultaneously with it. Afghanistan has always been a failed nation of warlords and corruption.
If I were the first black president, I'd want my legacy to be other than Afghanistan. He certainly did screw the pooch.
He is leaving the legacy he desires. That a black man can be every bit as devious, deceptive, corruptible and murderous for power & money as the white man. He has succeeded. The Black Man has arrived in all his glory.
MLK, and Malcolm must be turning over in their graves.
Capitalist Man feels very good today. His latest protégé has succeeded beyond his wildest dream. The project is complete. The black man is now a good citizen, a good soldier, a good consumer and now, a model American president.
“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.” – Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Correct and well put. –(Jill Bains)
Let it be known that the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq were planned before and independently of the events of the eleventh of September 2001(1), that the events of the eleventh were the new Pear Harbor that right-wing extremists in this country, from Brzezinski to the signatories of the Project for the New American Century, had been wishing for(2), and that the events were a great opportunity(3), as members of the Bush cabinet have repeatedly stated in public(4), and that, consequently, as George said in March of 2002, “ I just don’t spend that much time on him [bin Laden]…I truly am not that concerned about him,” a sentiment echoed a month later by General Richard Myers when he stated that “the goal has never been to get bin Laden.” (Griffin (see note 2 below), p. 107)
Here is a sampling of “the vast opportunities” provided by the events of the eleventh:
i) the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, which were justified, among other things, to the citizenry by recourse to the eleventh;
ii) the new military bases which they enabled the U.S. to establish in a number of Central Asian countries (Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan), including naturally the sprawling embassy compound and several military outposts being constructed in Iraq, and the military bases already completed in Afghanistan (all along the route of the oil and gas pipelines that had been planned by Unocal (Union Oil Company of California) way before the eleventh) (5);
iii) the complete dismantling of the socialist economic structure of Iraq;
iv) the rewriting of Iraq’s oil laws in favor of U.S. companies and, generally, western capitalism;
v) the bullying and intimidation of Iran;
vi) the Gleichschaltung of the U.S. domestic scene (completion and hardening of the conservative revolution in the works since at least the Reagan years, including the assault on abortion laws and affirmative action), which includes passage of the PATRIOT ACT (a document hundreds of pages long and drafted before the events of the eleventh), the abolition of the right of habeas corpus, and the implementation of the doctrine of the unitary executive power;
vii) the eavesdropping on the citizenry;
viii) the establishment of the concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay;
ix) the contempt for international laws and conventions;
x) the justification of the practice of torture;
xi) massive increases in the military budget;
xii) the resumption of the making of nuclear weapons(6).
In view of this spectacular bonanza, one may easily be tempted to entertain the thought that if al Qaeda did not exist, it would have to be invented, and that surely BushCo wasn't gonna waste such a gold mine.
Looks like Obama is right in step with the Bush program. A more polite version of Bush, I suppose.
Notes
(1) Regarding Afghanistan, see the evidence supplied by Chalmers Johnson, "The Sorrows of Empire" (Owl Books, 2005), pp. 180-181 (see the quotation from that book below in note 5); and by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, "The War on Freedom" (Media Messenger Books, 2002), pp. 55ff. and 68ff. As for Iraq, see, for example, the letter of January 1998 (available online) written by members of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and others, to then President Clinton, urging him to take steps aiming at “the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power,” and the testimonies of Paul O’Neill, Bush’s former Treasury Secretary, and Richard Clarke, Bush’s first National Coordinator for Security and Counterterrorism.
(2) For Pearl Harbor envy, see David Ray Griffin, "The New Pearl Harbor" (Olive Branch Press, 2004, updated edition), pp. 95-96: Griffin quotes Brzezinski and the infamous sentence from PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" according to which the "revolution in military affairs" required by PNAC to establish the Pax Americana (the American dominion over the planet) would certainly benefit from "some catastrophic and catalyzing event--like a new Pearl Harbor" (p. 51 of "Rebuilding America's Defenses," which was published in September 2000).
(3) Or, as Chalmers Johnson puts it in "The Sorrows of Empire," “The terrorist attacks of 9/11 came as manna from heaven to an administration determined to ramp up military budgets” (p. 64). See p. 81 as well: “The terrorist incidents of 2001, much like the sinking of the battleship Maine in 1898, gave a tremendous boost to their private {the neo-conservatives or PNAC people] agenda.” And the quotation in note 5 below.
(4) For a very official statement of this assessment of the events of the eleventh, see "The National Security Strategy of the United States of America," September 2002, section 8: “The events of September 11, 2001, fundamentally changed the context for relations between the United States and other main centers of global power, and opened vast, new opportunities.” Incidentally, this document was authored by Philip Zelikow, who later became the executive director of the 9/11 Commission.
(5) See Chalmers Johnson’s account of the whole sordid Unocal episode, ibid., pp. 176-181. In conclusion of his narration, Johnson states, p. 181: “In light of this trajectory, it would appear that the attacks of September 11 provided an opportunity for the United States to act unilaterally to remove the Taliban…” And this from Patrick Martin: "If history had skipped over September 11 and the events of that day had never happened, it is very likely tha the United States would have gone to war in Afghanistan anyway, and on much the same schedule." (Quoted by Johnson, in ibid., p. 176.) I note here that Hamid Karzai, the U.S. appointed president of Afghanistan, had been on the payroll of Unocal. So was PNAC member Zalmay Khalilzad, whom Bush appointed to be special envoy to Afghanistan immediately after the fall of the Taliban in 2001, and who became the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan in 2003.
(6) Obama did not abolish this program: see Matthew Cardinale, "US Nuke Agency Pushes New Bomb Production," October 1, 2009, Inter Press Service (also on Common Dreams).
Raising my mug of milkless Victory Coffee (one saccharine) to the 34,000 additional U.S. troops being sent into this illegal and horrid Middle East war of agression.
"Yes We Can!"
CAPITALISM is the beast
stop feeding it
it's almost tax time
Murder Incorporated has a new CEO
war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
And the peace prize is really a war prize!
You must mean this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner. I guess they didn't succeed in changing his mind by giving him this undeserved award.
how useless and disgraceful is the american military when they outnumber the irregular insurgents in aghanistan by 15 to 1 - illiterate peasants with no training who are driving around in 40 year old pick ups and the marines still can't beat them after 6 years
then these useless soldiers come home and want to go on welfare for the rest of their lives - oooh my head hurts
hey when you sign up to be a goon for the nwo pondscum and you set about destroying foreign countries and murdering innocent women and children for corporate profit here is the moral of the story - don't expect a welfare check - nwo pondscum don't do welfare
they keep all the money to themselves and then laugh their asses off all the way to their bailed out banks - then they start laughing about that one too...
suckers
Life is so much better under the democrats.
Republicans hold you 3 feet under water, but the democrats only hold you 1 foot under the water.
It's like a breath of fresh air, almost.
The trials of empire
in a public forum such as this, all i can say after reading this article and learning of this news is that the only gun i own i want to turn on myself. i've lost the will to fight the good fight. this world, our government, is sooo f***ed up and i just can't deal with it anymore. obama has killed me and he will kill others. i'm not the only one who's discouraged like this. pls forgive me everyone. but i just can't do it anymore. it's been a struggle for too damn long. go ahead report me, i really don't care. my pain runs so deep as to numb me now. that bastard. i can't believe the betrayal. and i can't believe i fell for it even though i winced so many times as he talked in the debates about bombing pakistan, etc, etc. i feel more than stupid. i feel hopeless. climate change proactive legislation not going to happen. healthcare reform proactive legislation not going to happen. peace in the world not going to happen. proactive decisive courageous citizen-led leadership in the usa not going to happen. UNCLE!
WiseCrone: Do not feel like the Lone Ranger. I and many others on this thread feel exactly like you do and I am not being facetious when I say we feel your pain. The reason you feel the way you do is because you are good, intelligent person with a conscience. Please take your righteous anger and channel it to support third party candidates. We need you buddy!
I'm feeling a little stronger today - a little. I will most definitely be supporting 3rd party candidates like the Greens in the next election if I stick around and truly I will try. I am a fighter; I know I'm not alone. I'm just really tired of being a warrior. I want peace, a green economy, a green world, you know - the stuff that makes it worth really living. Thank you for your kind words and see more below regarding your words in my response to George.
I for one really hope you're just venting, which we all have a right to do. Don't do the deed, man. It's not worth it. Don't let them wipe you out! Take a break from all this for awhile, try to get your mind on other things (I try this to some avail at times, at other times I feel much as you do). But try to hang on. The world needs sensitive souls like yours. We can't afford to lose any more. You're important.
not venting, ephraim. just feeling sooo much pain from this world right now. feels like too much to bear. i've noticed before when you've written that your name is my favorite great grandfather's middle name who always made me feel loved and, yes, important. perhaps a sign he's watching over me. i know i always appreciate what you write here. tonight i especially appreciate your last three lines. thank you. i'll try to hang on. sweet blessings to you.
WiseCrone, try helping out a neighbor, or rescue an animal from the local shelter. The bottom line (what a horrible phrase) is these little acts of kindness. The world needs all the kindness it can get.
George, What you say is very true, but they are things I do every single day of my life. I am a giver, a lover, a fighter for peace and justice, I have a very big heart, and am extremely generous with my time - b/c I have so little money - I donate my time, my knowledge, political action, my efforts towards community-building, and so much more. Giving more to others is not the cure for me I'm afraid. If anything I need to begin *receiving* even a little of the kindness I dole out to others. I need a little pampering. Perhaps that is why Ephraim's and Paul Revere's words have helped me feel stronger. They both have hit the nail on the head in terms of knowing I'm needed here, especially now, and that I mustn't let these trying times do away with me. I just need a little time out and a little love. Thank you and thank you to all who have reached out to me; you all have helped. I have felt so alone but this forum has been there for me since last night and I'm truly grateful.
Whoa. Hold on there WiseCrone.
Remember, the darkest hour comes just before the dawn.
And dawn WILL come.
There are many out here that feel your pain. Take a time out.
i'm the one usually saying that line AND believing it too. just don't know if i do anymore. i thank you for your caring words and advice though.
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jon, thanks for the resource. i'll put in my cell phone. i don't think it helps that my brother-in-law blew his brains out rather recently b/c his world - the world - was falling apart in his eyes too. and he was a social worker on a crisis team. but my sadness has been nagging me before that traumatic event, only more so since. knowing how my entire family has reacted to his suicide shows how absolutely terrible and desperate i feel about the world's situation. but i want to see us all through. i believe we can do better. i'm just so freakin' tired. thank you all for allowing me to be honest about this. i have a greeting card that i love that says, "what people really need is a good listening to." it has a watercolor of a cat on the front. yes, it's my cat that listens to me and gives me no grief in return. if only the world would be so accommodating.
may we all survive the pain we're feeling and come through to the other side into a world of peace, justice, and equality for all.
Hilary Klanton was all for this war more than "our man," Barakus from the damn start, and she's an all out war monger and right winger, probably a neo con as well. She's really nothing but a closet case Republican of the worst kind.
AD
My final two cents here:
[Before getting to the meat of this, let me pause for a moment, to offer a word in defense of righteous anger. There is a certain legitimacy to raw anger. Anger is a correct & reasonable first response to injustice. By itself, it is an inadequate response to injustice. But it is an excellent foundation on which more constructive responses can be built.
And, on the other hand, the most paralyzing & crippling response towards great injustice, is docile acceptance. THAT is what the American political system & their apologists are all about — getting you to somehow resign yourself to corporatists & warmongering imperialists, who however (like Obama) are skilled in the use of ‘uplifting’ language.]
OK, now the meat.
We are at a time in our nation’s history where the political system is breaking down. It is no ordinary time. Mechanisms that have sufficed since the 1930’s are now failing.
There is zero chance that our system can be fixed through the officially-approved mechanisms. Whether overtly recognized or not, there’s a war going on — the US ruling class against all the rest of us. It’s essentially a class war. The rulers want you to remain a Democrat, because the D’s are a ruling-class institution, whose job is guiding the Dem half of the populace in paths that are safe for the rulers. To remain a Dem voter, and to swallow whatever slop the party dishes up, is to passively assent to this arrangement.
Therefore, your primary focus should be on resisting & criticizing the system, not on adapting yourself to it. You should be talking with your friends & family about the very real things that are wrong. You should be trying to make whatever contribution you can to elevating political consciousness. Accepting the slop of the Dem Party is the opposite of all that: it deadens political consciousness, & only makes your enemies stronger.
Voting for candidates only works when there are decent candidates — but that’s not our situation. We betray ourselves if we fail to recognize that.
Well, looking at it historically, the “solution” has to be a break from the officially-approved mechanisms. It must have the form of a broad movement based on the interests of the bottom 80-90% of the population, rather than on the interests of the top 1%. It has to be what they call “radical” politics — something that big business and the media are definitely not going to like, any more than they like Kucinich or antiwar protestors.
The 2 parties are really just a mechanism of social control. They’re not a way for “the people” to express their will; they’re a way for rulers to control the people — partly by making them believe that they (the peeps) have some say (which they don’t). Building a movement to oppose this takes time. But its sine qua non is political consciousness — the type that socialists understand & try to cultivate; and that the big-business parties & media try to suppress & eradicate.
mcoyote: Even though I have known that what you say is true, I thank you for your perspicacious post. The 2 parties are mostly made up of corrupt attorney's that work for: the Wall Street Banking Cartel; the International Financiers; and the MIC. The bifurcation of our political system is at worst a sham, and at best a quiddity.
Oh, Barakus, now you lead us down primrose path crossing our Rubicon into oblivion and hell.
Gee, how can we "thank you?"
AD
Here comes the common refrain:
"If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain about the outcome."
The opposite is true. By playing the game, voters agree to the rules. Only those who don’t play and withhold their consent have a right to complain about the outcome, especially since the winner will have his hand in the non-voter’s pocket.
Voting is not an act of political freedom. It is an act of political conformity. Those who refuse to vote are not expressing silence. They are screaming in the politician’s ear: "You do not represent me. This is not a process in which my voice matters. I do not believe you."
Non-voting has a rich and long history through which the dissenting electorate has expressed everything from religious convictions to political cynicism.
Who makes the decisions in our society?
Who writes public policy?
Years of social engineering has caused people to be deluded on this matter.
The White House and Congress don’t really make the decisions, Wall Street and the Pentagon do.
Who wins the election makes no difference because all politicians must do what the elite want. Elections are a scam whose function is to neutralize resistance movements and dupe ordinary citizens into thinking they have a say in matters of the state.
Elections do not secure popular control over the state, they do help secure state control over the populace. Voting is a ritual that reinforces obedience to state authority. It creates the illusion that “the people” control the state, thereby masking elite rule. That illusion makes rebellion against the state less likely because it is seen as a legitimate institution and as an instrument of popular rule rather than the oligarchy it really is. This is why even totalitarian states like Russia under Stalin had elections. Embedded within all electoral campaigns is the myth that “the people” control the state through voting.
There's far more potential in 80% of the political drones staying home or burning tires in the street on election night but neither of these things will happen here in Never-Never Land. Instead the usual 50% will show up to keep the facade in place and validate the system that beats on their heads every day. Then the folk can swell with a moment of civic pride and think that "Democracy", if imperfect, has once again triumphed. "Well at least we got the vote"- and other such dripping bathos will resonate through the corridors of America.
We have no say, or very little, in what even gets voted on be it issue or candidate let alone considering if the vote gets counted.
But as long as the vote charade goes on the appearance of "having a say" remains intact. And you must admit this is part of the genius of the system. It really does give you a few minor openings and the appearance that you are playing the game. LTTE's, three minutes at city council, online petitions and call in radio and hey, "Let's call it Democracy! Let's vote!"
Anyone doubt this now?
Many thanks for this superb commentary. I've thought the same thing for about 20 years, even though I've voted in every election (for 3rd parties when possible) but I've said much as you do here to many friends--that I respect those who do not vote from principle, because they see what an utter sham it is. But you've articulated the fraud of electoral politics in this hopelessly corrupt system far better than I ever have. Thanks again.
Correct.
For an even fiercer and more exigent analysis that amplifies the truths in this fine posting, see Alain Badiou's essay, "On Parlimentary 'Democracy':The French Presidential Elections of 2002, ("Polemics," Verso Press, 2006).
The mere 'act of voting' in America confers only abnegation and terminal passivity. Voting is the very negation of any emerging political consciousness and as such is an act of total cynicism that is underwritten by ignorance.
To continue the charade is tantamount to a self nullification, a moral abdication and a rationalization of the very system one 'claims' one wants to change, but in reality, perpetuates.
–(Jill Bains)
I used to wonder, as I went to the polling place, how the Russians could vote for their single party and call it democracy. I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
This war has been and will continue to be about building an oil pipeline from the Caspian Basin through Afghanistan to the Port of Karachi. When the Taliban became against the pipeline the Bush regime decided that it was time to invade. 9/11 gave the perfect excuse. The rationale was we were bombed by Saudi terrorists so we must attack Afghanistan. Uh-huh. The puppet president Karzai was a former UnoCal employee.
I'm sure the opium fields play nicely into the equation (Karzai's brother is linked to major opium dealing and on the CIA payroll). Since we began our War hasn't opium production gone up some 800%?
In economics 101 it is taught that the greater the risk, the greater the return. Oil, Bombs and Drugs sure fit the bill!
The best part of this whole piece is HRC's comment, "There are warlords and then there are warlords". This is, no-doubt, her characteristically hamfisted way of trying to appear "pragmatic". It's also a brilliant and succinct statement of the entire philosophy of empire.
It's amazing, really. They keep telling us what they really think and we keep ignoring it.
Unfortunately the President has chosen the wrong path....once again.
I need remedial voting.
Henry8: There is nothing wrong with making mistakes as long as one learns from them; but here is the problem: this whole country needs remedial voting! To admit you were wrong is commendable.
Support the Taliban and the Afghani resistance in the struggle to drive out, defeat and destroy imperial fascism. –(Jill Bains)
Not funny, even in jest, to suggest killing our own kids.
"Le Gusta Este Jardin?"
Que Es Suyo?
Evite que sus hijos lo destruyan!"
–(Malcolm Lowry, "Under The Volcano")
Cut to the chase. Either support imperialism or speak out for its destruction at the 'blood point,'not in the abstract or in your next farcical American election.
Your 'kids' are allowed to kill, but no one is allowed to kill them? An interesting, peculiarly American conceit if I may say so.
When I think of 'our kids' I include the Afghani children, the Iraqi children and before them, my maternal ancestors in Vietnam who were gratuitously slaughtered, by YOUR kids, who seem to be the only one's who ever matter.
The struggle against America is an International one. Your'e just on the 'other' side of that. I'm fine with that. That is just who you are. People take sides.
–(Jill Bains)
" Your kids are allowed to kill, but no one is allowed to kill them?" Amfortas, fantastic reply to Henry8. Have you noticed that henry almost never retorts when caught in one of his contradictions?
"Cut to the chase. Either support imperialism or speak out for its destruction at the 'blood point,'not in the abstract or in your next farcical American election".
Indeed. 100% agree.
But isn't that exactly what we're doing? If the war has no useful purpose, and this is true of almost EVERY war, then the federal government is essentially killing its own--which is also the title to a book everyone ought to read.
The aim of any Progressive worthy of the moniker is the defeat of Imperialism and all other forms of exploitation. That logic finds Jill and others including myself supportive of peoples defending themselves from our government's wars. It was that logic that got Jane Fonda accused of being a communist and hater of US troops.
At some point folks against War must come to the realization that being against war means also being against those fighting that war--indeed, against the whole edifice that promotes and justifies Imperialsit war. Now, if I were an Iraqi, I would be totally correct to go to war against the invaders of my country. I've admitted to being a Stromtrooper as a youth, but I now know the enemies to our wellbeing reside within the homeland and wreak havoc on the commonfolk through the mechanisms of the Class War. I didn't choose to come to that conclusion--Reality made the choice for me.
A lot more propaganda and programming are done now to kids at an early age (much more than I can recall from my youth)--they are very "carefully taught"--which proves to me that the US federal government is the antithesis of the good its propaganda says it is for. Oh sure, a few agencies do a few good things, but all that is more than outweighed by the massive evil the federal government engages in via its Imperialist wars and trade policies. It is diametrically opposed to the rationale provided by the Preamble for the federal government's existence. Today, the most relevant document from our past is The Declaration, which gives me and others license to oppose the federal government and its Tyranny.
Thank you karlof 1. You said it far better than I ever could.
–(Jill Bains)
Yes karlof1 you have it exactly right. When the flag waving whores tell us to support the troops it is nothing but Orwellian doublespeak, because what they are really saying is support the U.S. government killing our troops for the nefarious rackets of the MIC and that goes also for all the sheeple with the yellow ribbon car magnets. I am not a pacifist and would have no problem protecting the country ( not the government) I love if there was a real need, but the American Government and its sheeple are really supporting the killing of our troops.
karlof1 4:38 ------ excellent post.
Unfortunately we are all complicit in killing our own kids by our inability to stop our government from undertaking these wars of corporate aggression. Until "we the people" are able to retake our government from the hands of the war profiteers we will continue to be complicit in the crimes committed in our name against innocent civilians in foreign lands and our own army of the poor. Mr. Obama is just another in the long line of of U.S. Presidents who come to power as military and corporate criminal enablers dedicated to preserving the status quo.
Until we have a Justice Department that takes the laws seriously and uses them to prosecute our war criminals who have held and do hold high offices in our government there will be no justice and no peace.
This decision was fully predictable. In 2004, Obama didn't oppose Bush's Iraq war, he only thought the Democrats could do a better job fighting it. Fellow Democrat Clinton, through his low-level war, probably has the murder of more Iraqi children on his soul than Bush.
Nonetheless the despair deepens. I will never criticize the actions of a suicide bomber again. I only wish that, in their own despair, they would at least pick their targets better and avoid killing innocents.
The suicide bomber is not defending his homeland. The suicide bomber is is willing to give his life for allah to further the cause. The "cause" is installment of sharia law and an Islamic Caliphate. That is the only way they can be convinced to give their lives. If you think we have it bad here, try living in a strict Islamic state. Everyone on this site would be in jail in a day, no trial, no rights. Not my idea of a good system.
The people in Afghanistan and Iraq who are fighting us with roadside bombs, sniper attacks and assorted IEDs are tthe only ones who could even be considered to be defending their land and countries. And even some of those want the Islamic Caliphate.
Please, never confuse the actions of a cowardly suicide bomber. Never acceptable and never forgivable.
One might ask why the rise of fundamentalist Islam? Islam has the capacity for producing enlightened states. Why are there so many sons (and daughters) willing to lay down their lives for this corrupt form of Islam? One answer might be the creation of a land-grabbing Zionist state right in the middle of the Middle East. There are doubtlessly other answers, but this one is a biggie. The suicide bombers are far from cowardly. The are very brave, but their bravery has been perverted--much like the bravery of those creating collateral damage in other parts of the Middle East.
I (and others here) said there was no difference in democrats and republicans when it comes to violence and general criminality. We tried, tried and tried some more, but you wouldn't listen, would you?
Sure, I'll give you that Bush was a complete bumbling nitwit and Obama is a complex thinker and elegant speaker, but in the end, they both love to loot & murder for the man.
Whatup now, faux "progressives"?
I think you have some 'splainin to do.
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So your point is that you're better and smarter than everyone else? It's obvious you have some psychological issues to deal with. Good luck. Just the fact that you only allow there to be "excuses" and don't allow for the possibility that there's some other reason tells me you're just as stick-your-head-in-the-sand as most righties.
How about the possibility that being president has become a no win situation? Couldn't it be that no one, not even Nader or Kucinich, could save the sinking ship of the US? Could it be there are corporate forces, not averse to murder or blackmail, that basically box in even a president with the best intentions? Don't be so closed-minded!
Part of being a leader of any extremely powerful nation in the last 3000 or more years has been having to cope with assassination attempts and coups; it is all part of the job description and is one factor that weeds out the losers from the great.
"How about the possibility that being president has become a no win situation?"
This is just another excuse. If it's reality, then it's long past time to get our guns and overthrow the Tyranny you depict. I agree we live in a Tyranny, but it isn't as extreme as you describe, although I think our last choice--armed rebellion--is approaching faster, not receding as we hoped would occur with BushCo gone.
As a spiritual person, I'd say let's go the way of Ghandi and Martin Luther King. As a pragmatic person, I say get out the guns, start convincing the army and police that they would best join our side. We have so little time left. Obama chose the wrong time in history to go back on his word.
Nope. Not smarter or better. I only wish I had the forte', style and command of the english language many writers have here at CD. But I don't.
Anyway..
You state, "don't be so closed minded!".
Well, Mr. Jeeves, I have a problem with your accusation. I was open minded. I voted for Obama (my first since Carter). I did that out of hope, to suck it up, listen to your side and to take one for the team, (however naive that might have been). That somehow, it might be somehow 'different' this time. That all the "hope" the kids displayed out there in 2008 might be candles lit for the future. Instead, those flames of hope are being snuffed out everyday, one by one, by this man and his party. Perhaps there is no way out of this. Short of violence, there probably isn't. But until that day when the shit finally hits the fan, and I have to hit the streets (which I will) I'll continue to do what I can--to push, pull and prod this sorry example of humanity, recent recipient (of all things) the Noble Peace Prize and otherwise worthless president, to do the right thing--for once. That includes running my mouth, for better or worse.
My vote is important to me. It was tough call to vote democratic. I usually vote for Nader. But, I had and continue to have, "an open mind"--until I have more information, and that information is that Obama is going to push violence to a maximum. That is a failure of politics. In that respect, he is the ultimate political failure. That's good enough information for me to conclude that Obama--is a bust.
Your party's upcoming presidential decision to offer up more violence in lieu of meaningful and positive dialogue (or just picking up our shit and leaving) is out there for the world to see. We all see it. The sooner you realize that and stop supporting the democratic party, the sooner the war machine will be stopped. Quit giving them ammunition with your name on it.
As for psychological issues, I'll have to refer to that old definition of insanity: "To keep repeating the same failed, dangerous and futile actions over and over again while expecting a different outcome." (Or something similar.) Who really has the problem here, Mr. Jeeves? (In fairness, after seeing the results of this man and the endless contradictions of what he was supposed to be--and what we actually got, day after day, week after week for the past 11 months, I do catch myself in somewhat of a fog and wondering what side of the toast to butter. And I'm quick to piss-off when exposed to dangerous things done to "protect me" by utterly stupid, but powerful people. So its quite possible I could say something in a, well--blue-collarish way.
But enough about my fog, temperament, and your denial.
Down every avenue of America, you and your brothers & sisters over at the GOP, have decimated this nation. Shrug, get angry, point fingers or whatever. But that's what the "two" parties have done. And you own 50% of the damage. Congratulations.
We are not speculating here about Kucinich or Nader. We are talking about President Obama, whom he, along with followers like yourself, said stood for certain things, and he didn't. And he did lie. Many times over. (Okay, let's say he just "fudged a bit". Sound better?)
I hope the story that inspired this article proves to be false and the president does the opposite of what George W. Bush would do. But I'm not holding my breath.
I understand your frustration. But you are simply irrational.
Finally, if you really don't dig my style, attitude, or command of the english language, you can simply move on down the page. I'm sure you're find some sympathy somewhere.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America!
Pretty darn good!
I see the tunnel at the end of the tunnel.
Shouldn't that be: "I see the tunnel at the end of the light?"
I see the lit cell at the end of the tunnel ?
"I see the lit cell at the end of the tunnel ?" –(glenn ford)
Yes. An intuitive insight.
Bagram. Guantanamo. Abu Ghraib? They will wash ashore in a tide pool of blood driven by roosting birds returning to the natal land. Dressed in Blackwater uniforms?
Premonitions of the dark angels.
It is better to see through to the end of things.
(Jill Bains)
That stupid, stupid lying rat bastard.
Obama going nowhere fast!
Our latest scheme: buy an army to oppose Taliban. Sounds like another hare-brained US Military strategy that we keep on trying in our so-called counter-insurgency plans. Pit one tribe against the other-- Taliban vs. Soviets, Sunnis vs. Shia, Pashtun vs. Tajiks, Ho Chi Minh's Buddhists vs. CIA's Roman Catholics. All of these half-baked plans, sooner or later, come back to haunt us.
Sending in the 40,000 troops that General McChrystal wants, and train more Afghanistan troops and establish a brigade to fight the Taliban is another dead-end. The Afghanis think we’re infidels and occupiers and, as a result, don’t trust us. And isn’t it equally clear that as a result of the Ft. Hood massacre, American troops simply don’t trust the Afghanis? How are we then going to partner with them and train more troops?
The Taliban are the government we overthrew. Basically they represent the largest tribal group in Afghanistan , the Pashtuns at 42% of the population. Fighting these folks will take a long, long time, plus, according to many experts, they are interested in Afghanistan, not in blowing up buildings in the US. Moreover, Al Qaeda, at less than 100 members, are a spent force.
Then there’s the cost issue. Rule of thumb--each thousand troops sent abroad costs $1 billion. So, 40,000 troops , 40 billion per year. Add this to the troops and contractors already in Afghanistan. Comes to over 100 billion a year. This money is to be paid by adding additional debt to our huge deficit, then having the Treasury department print the money and then having the Chinese loan us the money.
Our taxes do pay for the annual $1 trillion military budget (army, navy, air force, coast guard , 1000 overseas military bases, CIA black box operations, Veterans Affairs hospitals, etc.) It all adds up.
And what we get for all our investment in Afghanistan is a lot of deaths, heartaches and corrupt puppet rulers. Pulling out would be a big plus for us--we might lose our influence over the gas and oil pipelines in the region--but we'd be a richer nation for it.
"Our taxes do pay for the annual $1 trillion military budget (army, navy, air force, coast guard , 1000 overseas military bases, CIA black box operations, Veterans Affairs hospitals, etc.) It all adds up."
This is incorrect. The federal government uses borrowed monies to pay for most of that list; the CIA has its own sources of revenues--drug sales primarily, but weapons too. Otherwise, your post is unfortunately correct.
Do the taxes pay the interest on treasury bonds bought by China?
it is his intention to “finish the job” (of bankrupting America) that began with the overthrow of ...
Number of US casualties in Vietnam on September 22, 1964 when LBJ took the oath of office on board Air Force 1: 108. Number of US casualties in Vietnam at the end of the war: 58,209 KIA, 2,000 MIA in 10 years of fighting.
"September 22, 1964" ?????
LBJ became POTUS on November 22, 1963. And the uSA was involved for much longer than 10 years.
OOPS! I misspelled November (Sigh!). As to US involvement, I was referring to combat troops. Before the 1965 deployment, there were only "advisors" in country. We could debate the difference, and I am sure the advisors who were getting shot at would have some interesting input to this distinction, but that is how they were categorized. Actually, we had advisors there almost as soon as the French pulled out.
The French were pulling out of Vietnam but the USA said we will fund you 100% if you stay and the French agreed and stayed.
Combat troops were in Viet Nam as early as 1961......our "advisors" had been shooting back since 1959. We lost a lot more than 22 between 1957 and 1965.
We had advisors there before the French pulled out as a matter of fact. Only Army though.
I had 2 Marine boot camp platoon sergeants in 1961 who would disagree with you. If you look closely, under Eisenhower, 2 USMC battalions were operating - as units - according to them and I had and still have no reason to doubt their veracity.
That is precisely why I said that I am sure the advisors who were getting shot at would have some interesting input to this distinction. But the official line was that we only had advisors.
When has the official line ever been in any way close to the truth?
WHY DO MOSLEMS and BIBLE DENY WOMEN EQUALITY?
Her husband… he is responsible for her guilt. Num 30:13-15
For a wife must be in absolute submission to her husband, as this is commanded by the Lord. Eph 5:22
As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. 1 Cor 14:34
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 1 Tim 2:11
A married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is free to marry. Rom 7:2
Not being a Moslem and not belonging to a church, my best guess is its all about natural instincts given to man by God.
For when a man and woman encounter a tiger charging at them in the jungle, the woman will grab her hair, step back and scream. While the man will grab a rock, step forward and yell.
And as men must do or die for women, defend with their life the body and morals of a women, what insanity is it for a man to try and protect a female he has no control over.
For men of the rich ruling class create all our laws, created divorce court to cause anger and division among us, and for an absolute they do not give their women even part ownership in the mansion.
Don't miss Jeremy Scahill's important piece on Blackwater. Especially when Obama's latest troop increase of 35,000 is matched with another 35,000 contractors. It's really a 70,000 troop increase with regular troops being used to support a private defense contractor war.
Here's a couple of snips from Scahill's article, found in full here on CD at
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/11/23-8
The military intelligence source said that the Blackwater/JSOC Karachi operation is referred to as "Qatar cubed," in reference to the US forward operating base in Qatar that served as the hub for the planning and implementation of the US invasion of Iraq. "This is supposed to be the brave new world," he says. "This is the Jamestown of the new millennium and it's meant to be a lily pad. You can jump off to Uzbekistan, you can jump back over the border, you can jump sideways, you can jump northwest. It's strategically located so that they can get their people wherever they have to without having to wrangle with the military chain of command in Afghanistan, which is convoluted. They don't have to deal with that because they're operating under a classified mandate."
In addition to planning drone strikes and operations against suspected Al Qaeda and Taliban forces in Pakistan for both JSOC and the CIA, the Blackwater team in Karachi also helps plan missions for JSOC inside Uzbekistan against the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, according to the military intelligence source. Blackwater does not actually carry out the operations, he said, which are executed on the ground by JSOC forces. "That piqued my curiosity and really worries me because I don't know if you noticed but I was never told we are at war with Uzbekistan," he said. "So, did I miss something, did Rumsfeld come back into power?" . . .
JSOC: Rumsfeld and Cheney's Extra Special Force
Colonel Wilkerson said that he is concerned that with General McChrystal's elevation as the military commander of the Afghan war--which is increasingly seeping into Pakistan--there is a concomitant rise in JSOC's power and influence within the military structure. "I don't see how you can escape that; it's just a matter of the way the authority flows and the power flows, and it's inevitable, I think," Wilkerson told The Nation. He added, "I'm alarmed when I see execute orders and combat orders that go out saying that the supporting force is Central Command and the supported force is Special Operations Command," under which JSOC operates. "That's backward. But that's essentially what we have today."
Published on Monday, November 23, 2009 by The Nation
Blackwater's Secret War in Pakistan
Inside sources reveal that the firm works with the US military in Karachi to plan targeted assassinations and drone bombings, among other sensitive counterterrorism operations.
by Jeremy Scahill
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Who benefitted when the allegedly liberal Obama made the odd choice of McCrystal? Are we not fully controlled by a privatized military now?
War with Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Georgia, Iran... and don't forget the continents of Africa and South America... and the special hell being created on the Mexican border. Course, we're not at war with Canada - yet - although when they start to defend their border from mass illegal immigration from the sinking ship of United States....
Obama was groomed and sold to us by the Kissinger branch of our government.
But why the concern?
Has not Blackwater been exposed to all as a bunch of Moslem hating religious fanatics?
Might that not itself be the concern, or a concern?
It sure scares the bejesus out of me!
Glenn Ford 10:37. Yes, what is all this " they are going to kill him nonsense ". Obomba has been part of the problem since day one and he is what Malcolm X called the house Negro; otherwise he would never been allowed to run for President. And even if it were true, he knows the risk that goes with the job, at least that is what my nephew in Afghanistan says about risking his life every day. He is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces and the buck stops with him and like Harry Truman said: " IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!
The only reason Obomba says the Afghanistan war is " A WAR OF NECESSITY" is that is what he has been told and it never was his decision.Obomba played the con game by "pretending" to be giving the escalation in Afghanistan a lot of careful thought. Yep like I have been saying ever since he was elected: HE IS THE CONSUMMATE CON MAN.
Would you consider the possibility that he never thought Afghanistan would "Hot" up again? That he said those things because he thought it was safe to say? No cost in saying it.
"Yep like I have been saying ever since he was elected: HE IS THE CONSUMMATE CON MAN."
But I believe your statement is correct in any case.
Your grasp of the obvious is astounding, but we all know that to a large extent Obama is just a paid actor.
So take your hate-rage off of Obama and direct it toward those rich and powerful who have him boxed in.
No. Because Obama could have said No. Who can overide the decision of the CiC (except perhaps the "lone gunman")?
Obama could have put principles first, and given the finger to the richfilth. As CiC, this is the ONE area he doesn't have the richfilth in Congress to contend with.
What part of the word No do you (or Obama) not understand?
Go to Hell, Barry! Slow down and walk; you're practically there.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
As usual, succinctness itself. This time next year Team Obama is very likely to be in political hell as well.
50% RULING CLASS
Close to half of voters failed to cast a ballet last November. Which means that corporate media gave us fiction news with the headline, “OBAMA WINS 52%.” For 52% of the half of society who voted is only a 26% minority of we the people.
For the lower 50% of society have more debt then wealth, which means they have no way to fund our expensive election process. Which means they are totally ignored by most politicians and have no imput into government or control of society.
For the upper 50% of society have all the wealth, have absolute control over both the Dem and GOP parties, and above all things they want a strong military to protect they worldwide plunder and excessive wealth.
And below of all things, we of the lower class who want decent healthcare, must be denied anything that would cut into their excessive profits, excessive wealth or upper class prestige and glory.
I presume then that you are at the forefront of campaign-finance reform activism. Way to go! Before everything else (war-funding, health-care reform, climate-change bill, etc) we must eliminate the stranglehold of the special-interest groups over our political system.
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A broke, unemployed, homeless and hungry population.
The just residue of our Imperial Ambitions.
We wiped out the native Americans and justified it by the doctrine of manifest destiny, when we finally reached the western edge of the continent we turned that doctrine loose on the rest of the world, and we're still at it.
Call it American Exceptionalism or Manifest Destiny its still the same game.
Who's this 'we', kemosabe?
No, your wrong it is not hopeless. For just because the purpose of this world is to prove the harm in it, this does not mean that we the people cannot turn all things toward the good.
Just except the fact that you got more then you deserve,
and part company with the maddening crowd.
To me the Presidency is like football. The question is (was), is it like High School or Pro football. I'd hoped it was like high school football where there's no agenda other than to win the game by being more athletic, more innovative in your plays, etc. I'd hoped Obama was that star quarterback who'd step in and play real football. (Obviously the analogy isn't perfect because we all know politicians of any stripe engage in alot of crap - but you get my point.)
I gave Obama 1 year, or a really bad decision on Afganistan, whichever came first. I see now that it's really Pro Football that's being engaged in. Pro football has very little to do with sports. The cover story is that it's all about football, the reality is that the NFL is a profit-making organization. Football happens to be it's product/service but that's almost besides the point. Any "star" will be mashed into following certain accepted parameters of play. No hotdogging, no innovation, no nothing that might effect profitability. I'm NOT saying the US presidency is all about profit. I'm saying it's all about some agenda OTHER than governing the US effectively. I wanted it to be otherwise. Obama was my "test case". He failed, and now it's obvious what the US government is all about.
How sad.
I DON'T however believe he was part of the plan all along. He had too much going for him. To carry on the analogy a bit, it'd be like seeing that All-Star, All-state, straight A football player all of sudden start throwing the game as soon as he went pro. I'd say the forces against him in the pro arena were just too much, not that he was a bad kid all along.
There have been those who refused to "play ball".
The times call for someone more likely to put country first and not some slick act pursuing his own personal ambitiion for some fantasy ego strokes. To achieve it all and still be a slave.
He just lost my vote for 2012.
Who says there's gong to be a 2012? Those ice caps are melting, those coastal waters are rising.
OBOMBA lost my vote in 2008 as I saw that he was an oxymoron: just a good con man!
I wrote the analysis below after viewing Bill Moyer's excellent analysis comparing Obama's choices in Afghanistan with Johnson's choices leading up the escalation of the war in Vietnam.
Yet, one can't help but be struck by the amazingly pathetic nature of what is taking place. First we invade a nation to root out terrorist bases. Then we enlist the help of corrupt war lords and others to form a corrupt, unpopular government to root out the Taliban. We do little to stop and in some cases actually encourage the drug trade- even further adding to the culture of corruption in the country. Then we decide after the Afghans "surprisingly" begin to hate their US sponsored government that the government is too corrupt! Then instead of correcting our past mistakes- we attempt to band aid the situation by starting a half assed counter insurgency/anti-corruption effort- with almost no Afghan support! Even more amazingly our military and political leaders think this will work. Or perhaps, they are just protecting their political futures. In which case their crimes are treasonous.
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Bill Moyer- with an intimate knowledge of the events that led to the Vietnam War, makes an impressive and clear case that the War in Afghanistan has similarities and many of the same risks as Vietnam. So does Daniel Ellsberg. So does Mikhail Gorbachev and others. It is clear that Johnson, McNamara and Bundy knew that the war was unwinnable- yet they felt compelled to commit American combat troops anyway. There reasons ranged from a desire to hold a position- to a fear of the domino effect- to fear of political repercussions. Yet what was most visibly absent was an understanding of the Vietnamese. They saw the war in geopolitical and military terms, but failed to appreciate the "enemy." The enemy was fighting for their country and freedom from colonial domination. The United States was an arrogant conqueror who know little of their culture, their determination or their struggle. In Afghanistan, it appears the United States, like the Russians in 1979, are perceived in the same way. The Soviet's War in Afghanistan contributed to the downfall of their empire. Likewise the Iraq and Afghanistan War has contributed to the economic ruin of the United States. Like the Russians we underestimate the enemy- we talk of training troops, corruption, etc., but we fail to understand the aspirations and needs of the Afghan people. Johnson, like Obama, was keenly aware of the political implications of leaving Vietnam- the abrogation of treaties, the appearance of being weak, etc. Yet, in the end the United States was forced to leave Vietnam. It will be the same in Afghanistan. The domino effect has been replaced with the War on Terror. Both are bogus constructs put forward by weak minds who need simple epithets to justify aggression.
Excellent, concise summary. Well done. Send it to Obama, where it will land in the same trash can the thousands of others like it have for a year now.
LJG 11:36 --------- Please read, everyone should mcoyote 8:43 (53?) post elucidating the USA inception of 30 years of slaughter and destruction in Afghanistan beginning in 1978, information never found on MSM, nor even I believe CD articles but as true as life itself and graciously provided by mcoyote in this thread.
$1 Trillion over 10 years...that is about $4000 for every man woman and child in the USA...about $16,000 for the typical family of 4.
that is YOUR tax money at work...for the warlords and opium dealers.
So, with about 100 Al Qaeda in Afganistan, that is about $10 Billion each
how much health care would THAT buy you?
WHAT A SCAM!!
This is how ludicrous it is: The US pays protection money to protect convoys of weapons used to kill who they pay protection to.
And the US accuses Afghanistan of corruption?
Those are also your tax dollars.
vern it would take freud and hesse a lifetime to make sense of!
The Audacity of Political Expediency
Are you feeling the AUDACITY of that CHANGE you HOPED you could BELIEVE IN yet!?!?
It really DOES make no difference which party is in power, does it?
If you are going to have fascism...might as well have real fascism instead of Obamas watered down fascism...
Palin/Whoever 2012?
Why the fuck not.
Since we are screwed now anyway... at this point it might as well be her.
By the time the watered down Health Care Reform come on line, the money to pay for it will have been already wasted in Afganistan chasing the 100 or so Al Qaeda fanatics running around there.
Meanwhile the Afgan Warlards will make their billions and retire to the south of France.
"Well, there are warlords and there are warlords." -Hillary "Warlord" Clinton
But its only $1.4 trillion for war this budget year, including the military share of the National Debt. Its pure glory man, pure glory.
Well, if you enlist now, you can go to Afgainistan, get blown up, THEN you can have all the health care what is left of you wants.
Not so!
US veterans are denied care for battle related and service related conditions routinely. Such things are hard to gauge precisely, but it appears that callous and self-interested denial of veterans' problems is a greater killer of American military personnel than are all "enemy" forces combined:
More Vietnam-era veterans are now dead by suicide than were killed in Vietnam.
The Vietnam vets are still ahead of the Gulf I, Iraq and Afghan occupation vets in suicides, but veterans of the latter wars are catching up fast.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
In my ramblings around my city I occasionally bike/bus past the local VA. Invariably the bus is packed with wounded and sick young & old military vets from all branches. Very few of them are happy campers. But our brainwashed society has been conditioned to accept ever lower expectations. Try to tell any of them--especially the poor black ones--that they have more in common with the poor people in Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan than they do with the owners and operators of the oil, munitions and mercenary companies who get them killed for their oil & pipeline wars. They will stare at you like mouth-breathing cattle and instantly revert to zombified silence or hyucking it up over the most ignorant minutia and wildly uninformed theories of why they fight you've ever heard.
Yesterday I heard a black vet expound at length about how (secular Sunni) Saddam Hussein is still alive & living in (Shiite religious fanatic dominated) Iran with (Sunni Wahabi) Osama bin Laden and how Bush and Obama are both covering it up from embarrassment. And Beyonce and 50 Cent are going to do a re-make of Logan's Run, and the Tooth Fairy and Colonel Nim (George Takei) from The Green Beret are going to Africa for a cosmetic surgery safari with the Easter Bunny. The pigs that own and run Amurka just love these illiterate fools. I think Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X would both be deeply ashamed of how completely Black America has succumbed to the white power structure AND their crude Social Darwinist/laissez-faire capitalism at every level of Das Neues Weltordnung. Their unquestioning subservience to the run amok military/petrol industrial complex is part and parcel of keeping the Machine smoothly running with their blood lubricating the gears, and it also represents the spectacular failure of American progressives and socialists to (A) help teach Black Americans about the concept of class solidarity, and (B) to reach out to them and include them in cross-racial, cross-class solidarity into broader progressive movements.
I remember a few years back I saw a brief clip of an interview of Project For a New American Century vulture Dick Perle. The interviewer was asking him whether or not he and his fellow neo-conservatives were worried that Americans might react against the military and economic Bush agenda for the same reasons that they built an anti-war, peace agenda protest movement in the late '60s and early '70s.
"America is no longer the same nation it was," came the reply, delivered with the most malevolent leer and purely evil gleam I've ever seen in any war profiteer's eyes. That gleam and everything it represents now overwhelmingly dominates Amurka, and the dark energy feeding the optical nerve of that gleam is the now utterly servile, gutless and mindless nature of the Amurkan sheeple who, far too many of them, know they are lining up to be treated like chickens in a poultry processing plant and have surrendered to the pigs and wolves who apparently own what's left of their miserable timid tattered, LAZY-MINDED little souls.
uh no actually not. they don,t honor their commitment!
Alexander the Great failed in Afghanistan. Ghengiz Khan failed in Afghanistan. The Brits failed in Afghanistan. The Soviets failed in Afghanistan.
A crumbling American empire failed in Afghanistan under Bush but is now going to succeed under Obama?
Aren't we all tired of this stupidity?
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Your bumpersticker says "peace," but your tailpipe says "war."
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Autosprawl wastes energy,
Waste increases demand.
Demand empowers suppliers.
Suppliers buy government.
Government tries to control supply.
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Want peace? End the automobile and sprawl.
http://frepubtra.blogspot.com
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And so ends another presidency. Fascinating to see how it is all going to end for Obama three years before it happens. Once again, a President has opted to dig himself deeper in the hole rather than risk being called a coward come 2012. Ambition has again trumped morality and common sense. And, as in the Lyndon Johnson case, the same price will be paid by Obama. Most likely, Hillary Clinton will run against him for the 2012 primaries. What a waste of a good mind. All that potential and nothing good to show for it in his administration.
Given what he has done and will do, how in good conscious can you say obama has "a good mind"?
He has an intelligent, perceptive mind. It may not be "good" in the moral sense, but that is just underscoring the waste of his mind. It would be fun to do a parody of the United Negro College Fund ads with their slogan " A Mind Is A Terrible Thing to Waste," superimposed over a picture of Obama yukking it up withe Geithner, Summers and all, fronting a background of foreclosures and board-ups.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
This is poser non-strategy by a trio of posers: Obama, Rahm and Hillary. Especially the "Compact" + "off ramps" part--like a wicker tub plug with a yank chain on it. Bereft of true intellect or national or global vision they are trying to pose their way through Amurka's hypermaterialist zombie lurch toward imperial & biosphere collapse--repeating as many obvious historical mistakes as possible by trying to look, if not exactly tough, then at least cubscoutishly prepared.
"Well, there are warlords and there are warlords," sez wifey-poo warlord. She's going to have more innocent blood on her hands than warlord Madeleine Albright, but maybe not quite as much as warlord Condileeza.
This is policy DESIGNED to fail in every aspect. Possibly as a political expedient toward focusing on the domestic economic quagmire--unless they try to pose their way through that one as well (entirely possible given what a spineless corporate genuflector Obama is). I say that because the "off-ramps" are designed to be triggered by next June--one to three months (depending on the number of extensions we've seen thus far) before the first big wave of unemployed that hit November 2008 starts exhausting their Federal and State unemployment benefits--and even larger waves of unemployed AND homeless start piling up on a monthly basis. Then again, DLC illogic suggests they will drag out and delay any withdrawal from Afghanistan (propping up zombie foreign policy with more zombie banking policy) if the GOP's infotainment cadres blast them enough for it.
A 2010 withdrawal would mean that the oil/pipeline/munitions oligarchs will have to curtail or delay their Central Asian Great Game--until another pack of neo-cons can get in there again by hook or crook. Next time they will probably use Pakistan as their entrée back into the region and thereby militarily reverse the situation on the ground between Afghanistan and Pakistan now--with Pakistan being used to base and expand a war within Pakistan and Afghanistan as "indians off the reservation" territory they can drone incinerate at will. After all, they will say, Pakistan is a nation which has nuclear weapons and A.L. Khan (whose nuclear weapons proliferation network that supplied North Korea has never been completely dismantled according to Sam Nunn).
This is "Compact + off-ramps" is a glossed over version of Nixon's "peace with honor" schtick. But the wiley Pathans are, no doubt, clapping each other on the back and Rudyard Kipling's shade is telling Bismarck's about the Westerners who got hussled once again by trying to hussle the East. No military historians of whom I am aware are ripping the neo-cons for biting off more than they could chew before they digested Afghanistan in the first place and they deserve supreme scorn for this and what it has cost the U.S. and the regions involved.
That said, my gut feeling about all this is: It's bad enough, Lord, that we must tolerate a wireless Gumby place-holder like Obama, and brittle corporate hairspray queen Hillary, can't you please at least rid us of this pretentious rat-phuck Rahm Emmanuel?
metal 10:44 ----- One point -------- I very much doubt the Pastuns are happy at having to battle tens of thousands more invaders. The cost to these battle weary heros are their families,property and lives.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
I agree they are not happy on that point, but I think they know by the militarily weak size and half-hearted nature of this escalation that it is signaling an inevitable defeat for U.S. policy in Afghanistan. Obama is sending 34,000. By Petraeus' own numbers he should be sending 600,000 if he wants effective "counterinsurgency." The "Compact" won't work because of the degree of entrenched corruption there, the culturally embedded drug trade that only the Taliban ever briefly squashed, the plethora of warlords and surrounding regional enemies and competing interests. The U.S. and NATO presence only aggravates the corruption problem without providing a solution. There never was any coherent rebuilding plan for Iraq or Afghanistan--no Marshall Plan for the region, either. The enemies the neo-cons and neo-libs have made over there will guarantee their distrust and hatred of us for decades. Pipeline routes through Afghanistan will never be secure for any period of time that will make them cost effective to the oil companies on a scale the broader economy can now tolerate. The U.S. can't buy cooperation there as readily as with the Sunni chieftains in Iraq. Afghani politics have always been much more complex, the borders are much larger and more treacherous with many more enemy factions on all sides. No great empire who ever tried ever took and then HELD what is now Afghanistan more than a handful of years.
metal, reprising an old SNL skit with Garrett Morris about baseball, EMPIRE would say to Cicero, "freedom been berry, berry good to Empire."
Alan MacDonald
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
That's because so extremely few of us participate in power, and thus, actual freedom.
EMPIRE USA ---- BRAIN-POWER DICTATORSHIP
Intelligence: speed at which one rationalizes a problem and takes corrective action. For ability to kill in combat, ability to achieve in a competition based economy, this is in direct proportion to speed of thought, the brains a man happens to be born with.
For war is in reality an intelligence contest, a survival of the fittest where victory goes to a nation with the highest collective intelligence. A most unstable way of ruling planet earth, as from one generation to another there is a shift, with the greatest intelligence moving from one nation to another. Such as from Babylon to the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Comes now the Moslem nations to challenge Empire USA, and such a battle of wits to unfold.
Alabama_john, and here I thought Obama's whole purpose in gong to China was to recruit some 'bain-power' to the Global ruling-elite corporate/financial Empire which currently controls our former country and is now recruiting other former nation-states.
Their smoothest 'front-man', Obama, is currently trying to square the circle between the new Empire's failing image of 'democratic capitalism' (moron Bush's oxymoron) with the reality of China's 'corporate communism' (as Dylan Ratigan accurately describes the Empire here and there).
But Obama's silky smooth fabrications will not sell to people anywhere ---- starting with a sales collapse right here in River City.
The American people are already suffering the worst income inequality in the world (GINI Coefficient). They can already palpably feel it --- and it's going to get worse fast --- which is why the American people are going to be the true vanguard of a fast developing Global People's Movement (which will make the fall of the Berlin Wall look like a slow motion news reel --- news that the CIA will similarly and incredulously watch on TV).
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Right on, and its quite possible you will succeed.
For the purpose of this world is to prove the harm in it,
and as soon as things cannot possibly get any worse,
all things will turn toward the good.
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION: WHERE WERE YOU AND WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU NEVER HIT THE STREETS AND PERSONALLY ACTED AGAINST THIS WICKED SYSTEM.
THE TIME IS QUICKLY PASSING AWAY.....
CONGRATULATIONS! To all you ass-sitting, keyboard-pecking, all talk and no walk,Progressive phonies--no wonder you hate gods--If there is one and he has been watching you---you're fucked! You are not really what you pretend to be--if you truly were, you all would have been there--and done something real to end this corruption. May God have mercy on our souls.
Be thankful that you may still be forgiven--If you will confess your sins the power of forgiveness, which includes how you are able to forgive the offenses of others, will not only provide the healing power of the essence of true forgiveness, but also restore to fitness the highest righteousness, and cleanse you from all guilt.
If you go on telling me that you never do things that are against the 10 Great laws: You are lying through your teeth,you not only make yourself look completely godless, but you make him a lie as well.
1John1:9,10 (VERSION--My Translation)
GARBAGE FROM THE RICH
Above post makes no sense, surely a paid actor hired by the rich. Comes now light to force such darkness to give way.
"The logic being that planet earth is a wasteland of meaningless fiction, and though the Creator is in submission, not by choice. For he does it so that through his subjection, during that time, full trust in him be established. For then the Creator will be set free from being enslaved by such corruption, and we shall have the liberty and glory of being the children of God.
"For it is self-evident that, with all of us, the Creator laments and suffers the same agony to this very day." Romans 8:20 OGV
One 10:31 --------- Again I am amazed at how so many make the illogical conclusion that if someone is publicly dissenting and posting crucial information, bonding, supporting and encouraging others, discussing strategies and tactics,this internet activity somehow indicates they are not physically participating in other worthwhile endeavors.
I guess if the judgemental allowed this clear reasoning they would lose one avenue of self rightousness.
As an aside, did you all notice that the obama statement that KSM was going to be found guilty and executed did not get the earthshaking attention it deserved. This is definitely as bad as anything Bush uttered and is a complete travesty of USA justice and ideals.
Even the Soviets publicly made believe their Show Trials were just.
Obombers "Race to the Bottom"
It'll take four years to get Obama's crappy health insurance enrichment program up and running but the beast of war will be fed on a timely basis.
The only thing this country can do anymore with efficiency is destroy.
well, this puts the nail in the coffin for Obama and demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt his complicity in an illegal and immoral war!!! He will join the depraved and spiritually bankrupt company of Bush, Cheney and the others in the criminal cabal at the helm of US leadership!!!
Don't forget, Mr. 'I feel your pain' Clinton.
Alan
Overheard from the protracted deliberations:
If you want to live, boy, you'll do what we tell you.
hamster, the EMPIRE never makes the mistake of leaving the microphone on when they are giving orders.
Remember, the mic was definitely NOT on when former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond said in Cheney's office at the supposed "Energy Task Force" secret meetings, six months before 9/11, and to the Generals who Cheney had strangely invited to an 'Energy Task Force' that, "The time is ending when we will be able to acquire oil for America through 'normal market mechanisms'. [ie. buying the stuff] Oil will need to be secured through 'extra-market forces'".
To which neither Cheney nor the Generals had any questions about what the term 'extra-market forces' meant --- they just had to look in the mirror to understand their orders.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Hamster 10:19 --------- Please not even a semblance of an excuse for this warmongering criminal.
If he did not wish to risk his life he should not have run for office.
Karzai and Maliki operate in far more dangerous venues and even have the Courage to oppose the invaders on occasion.
Stop with this "their going to kill him" nonsense that is the risk every leader has accepted since the first leader arose.
Obama's life is not worth one bit more than anyone elses, including the Afghan childs life.
You're right, of course, Obama announced repeatedly in the campaign for president that he was going to increase the war in Afghanistan. I suspect he was fully on board with the MIC before he ran.
"Obama's life is not worth one bit more than anyone elses, including the Afghan childs life." Amen.
"We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it," the U.S. defense official said.
That is almost word for word a repeat of Vietnam. In case you missed that, they kept escalating for 8 years; 50,000 U.S. dead, over a million Vietnamese dead, tens of thousands with PTSD, and the U.S. lost.
Millions of Southeast Asians dead, Laos secretly had more bomb tonnage dropped on it than the USA dropped in WWII.
Cambodia also was heavily bombed instigating the Kymer Rouge genocide.
Estimates are up to 10 million Southeast Asians killed because of the USA prevention of UN mandated Veitnamese elections and ensuing conflicts.
And the toll continues today from buried bombs,landmines and agent orange birth defects.
And people get all touchy feely when we cry Nazis.
When is the borrowing of moneys for all these revolting policies finally going to come to an end? When is it all going to tip over into total bankruptcy?
Abendland, your question reminds me of a recent Toles political cartoon asking how much Karzia needs to be paid to stop being corrupt, with the little bubble at the bottom from a sly Karzai saying, "How much do you have?".
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/cartoons/20091116_ink_tank?pg=12
Well, that cartoon could apply to your question of how much money the Global ruling-elite corporate/financial Empire that controls our former country will extract before this ends.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Here we go again. We have to burn the village in order to save it. Or more likely because the napalm is approaching its pull date.
The Nobel Prize committee should disband itself in disgrace. Giving someone the prize for the potential to create peace is equivalent to locking someone up for life for their potential for terrorism.
It's time to fire-up some "Lincoln Park" and .50 caliber DU and rock and roll Democrats. You are the WARMONGERING PARTY HANDS DOWN! GEORGE WALKER BUSH SMILES UPON YOU ALL! DICK CHENEY BLESSES YOU! (Donald Rumsfeld is still a little confused by it). BRING IT ON OBAMA, the oppressor! REID! PELOSI! BRING IT ON! Oh, the irony.
The die has been cast. In theory Obama had the chance to become a peace president. Instead he will now be compared [but will the talking heads on television actually go ahead and point out the obvious?] to another Democratic president named Lyndon Baines Johnson who also escalated a war that was deemed necessary in a place called Vietnam. But it must be pointed out that Congress can end this conflict by cutting off the funds for this misadventure by Obama. Will the Democrats allow Kucinich to be the only one who calls for the war money to cease flowing or will they, as in Vietnam, allow their emotions to overrule their heads by supporting their president by accepting his demand for more death and destruction? Undoubtedly [and unfortunately] the latter as Democrats never fail to justify the name of a book that came out during the 2008 campaign and that was to accurately describe the Democrats as being Savage Mules.
It should also not be too surprising to see an atmosphere of nationalism and hysteria being used and promoted in the coming weeks as those who dare to criticize this escalation will be quickly branded Un-American and/or traitors to their country because they have questioned and criticized the policies of their government. The Democrats, like the Republicans, must claim that the United States is fighting a third world country in order to protect their "vital interests." The question becomes, will the American people remain complacent and continue to buy the party line or will they finally rise up and say NO to American militarism and America's alleged agent of hope and change?
"What you do not done to yourself, do not do to others"-Confucius [551-479 BC], Chinese philosopher
"Imperialism, like dictatorship, sears the soul, degrades the spirit, and makes individuals small, the better to rule them. Fear and cowardice are its allies. Imperialism is government of other people, by other people, and for other people."-Louis Fischer [1896-1970], American journalist
There is a word missing in the Confucius citation: "What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."
Abendland
You are correct. My apologies as I erred by not including the word want before the word done. I suspect that it was my anger over Obama's escalation getting in the way of my thinking more coherently and cogently as I am usually want to do. Here are a couple of other quotes regarding the idiocy of war:
"Do not men die fast enough without being destroyed by each other?"-Francois Fenelon [1651-1715], French Roman-Catholic theologian
"The least pain in our little finger gives more concern and uneasiness than the destruction of millions of our fellow beings."-William Hazlitt [1778-1830], English writer
Nanoo
Yesterday being the big national call in day to the white house. Sure I had the number written down and thinking about calling when on the news I'm informed Obama was to meet with the war mongers. Figured Mr. Compromised already decided, so I didn't bother to call.
I'm sorry you people of Afghanistan that this country of my unfortunate birth is doing this to you. I do not honor the troops or support them.
Now here's an important note from Obama's favorite foreign policy adviser:
Jimmy Carter adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski stated: "According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the mujahideen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, December 24, 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise." Brzezinski himself played a fundamental role in crafting US policy, which, unbeknownst even to the mujahideen, was part of a larger strategy "to induce a Soviet military intervention." In a 1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled: "We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would...That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap...The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."
ZBiggy and Carter murdered hundreds of thousands of Afghans and Russians and ZBiggy gloated over it. War criminal ZBiggy is the man Obama has said he respects the most in foreign policy. Brzezinski equals Kissinger. Tell me again how Democrats and Republicans are different?
Where are all these Liberal/Progressive who want "officials" prosecuted?
The smell of hope and change is different than the smell of napalm in what way?
A very good and factual point, mcoyote, which demonstrates that while the parties and figure-head presidents change, the Global ruling-elite corporate/financial Empire --- which hides behind the facade of its two-party 'Vichy' sham of democracy --- is both immortal, immoral, and inhuman.
Best luck, mcoyote, in your efforts to disclose and confront the Empire at the heart of all our "sorrows" as Chalmers Johnson says --- and as Hannah Arendt warns, "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home",
Alan
Oh... but, but ,but it is the rights of women that Obama cares about.
In 1978 the Afghan government of Mohammed Daoud Khan moved against the leading Afghan opposition political party, the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA). A leader of the party, Mir Akbar Khyber, was murdered and most of the leadership of the party were arrested during his funeral (reportedly at the instigation of the CIA). In response, the remainder of the PDPA staged an uprising which won power in April of 1978. The party immediately published a series of reforms which echoed the failed attempts at reform in Afghanistan going all the way back to the overthrow of the "reformist King", Amanullah Khan, in 1929.
Within days, the CIA began to organize and fund the reactionary and Islamist "opposition forces" in the countryside of Afghanistan, who had already been the fundamental barriers to reform for over a century. This was 2 years BEFORE the Soviets intervened in Afghanistan. Zbigniew Brzezinski has openly bragged that the purpose of the U.S. operations was to FORCE Soviet intervention.
The issues on which the CIA organized were the PDPA's Land Reform and the elimination of debts in the countryside (both of which attacked the power of the rural "warlords"), religious freedom (or the elimination of Sharia Law), and, most important of all, the granting of equal rights for women (which had also been central to the overthrow of Amanullah in 1929).
For the first time in Afghan history, a woman - Dr. Anahita Ratebzad, had become a member of the ruling Revolutionary Council. Less than one month after the uprising, Ratebzad wrote a famous May 28, 1978 New Kabul Times editorial which declared: “Privileges which women, by right, must have are equal education, job security, health services, and free time to rear a healthy generation for building the future of the country … Educating and enlightening women is now the subject of close government attention."
In response, the CIA distributed leaflets throughout Afghanistan with Dr. Ratebzhad's face displayed prominently on them.
Obama must not have any sense of irony and his "moral high ground" sits lower than the Marianas Trench. The Taliban was created out of whole cloth by the U.S., hatred of women's rights and religious freedom were the pillars of that creation, and the hand wringing now, concerning those "poor Afghan women", is light years beyond hypocrisy.
SIMPLE FACT- US INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN IS ILLEGAL
The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the Charter because the attacks on September 11 were criminal attacks, not "armed attacks" by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States.
Barack Obama is a war criminal.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Thank you for making these points very clearly.
mcoyote 8:59 ---------
Thank you for the precise, accurate, and necessary information, as to the 30 year destruction and slaughter in Afghanistan instigated and funded by the USA and it's taxpayers.
We are starting to see the other nations raise the cudgel of law to smash the collapsing imperial monster as it falls to its knees.
All levity aside, we do need an "USA Pact" to eliminate corruption, and predatory capitalism, with CEO's as only slightly masked warlords.
I remain amazed at how intelligent, kindhearted people still remain loyal to Obama.I can only surmise it being the result of over exposure to MSM and fostering denial rather than facing the most awful moral,financial,social and enviornmental condition the USA is in.
At least we were kind enough to give the WH an updated list of war protestors with our mass call in yesterday.
Everyone should spread mcoyote's true words so that all will know what a disgusting player the USA is.
Look at this site and you will see all political varieties of posters we need to accept each other into a big tent unified populist movement with the sole objective radically transforming the government into one which serves the USA citizens and harms no others.
Otherwise everyone except the bloated will be working for a few dollars( as in $5-$10) a day as some Banksters are now proposing.
Right you are, mcoyote, and Obama should join Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II as "war criminals" of the EMPIRE at the Hague --- although Reagan 'the gipper' ran our the clock.
Alan
Of course you also have to realize that the rulers of the UK and Russia are also war criminals. And they all work in conjunction with the US elite for the common purpose of profit over common decency (there may be several groups of power elite but they all seek greed). These separate groups will come to blows at some point, but long after the world has lost all sense of decency and compassion and we fall into each of us having to fight for the power elite or die if they refuse.
Some people saw this coming, and know that the US character is opposite of what the majority of the American people think.
This deception is also meant not so that the power elite could continue to degrade and debase other countries, but for the time when our military will turn against us and catches us unaware or impotent to prevent it.
Yes, it's Déjà Vu --- but Déjà Vu of EMPIRE --- and now, finally, even the supposedly "wicked smart", liberal, 'blue-state' citizens may finally wake-up!
Obama's speech and his 'supposed' decision about Afghanistan will reveal far more than the war strategy in Afghanistan. For those who watch with careful eyes it will reveal EMPIRE.
The decision will be voiced through the mouth of Obama to be sure --- but the decision was already made before he was president, in fact before he even ran, and the decision itself was made by the EMPIRE.
America, our country, is now part of an arrogant, unresponsive, un-democratic, but quite sophisticated 'Vichy' Empire ---- which only pretends to allow the people to have any influence over any choices, directly, or through their supposed representative government.
This fact of sophisticated and guileful Empire manipulation and trickery of the people was well documented in 1994 by Thomas Frank in his "What's the Matter with Kansas" --- showing how contrived social 'values' manipulation was used by the Empire-controlled 'Republican Party' to trick stereotypical anti-intellectual conservative Kansans into voting against their own interests.
But now the coin has been flipped, and we need Frank to write a new book, "What’s the Matter with Massachusetts" in which he would lay bare how the Empire-controlled 'Democratic Party' tricked stereotypical self-described liberal and supposedly highly educated intellectuals into voting for a second well educated (and now post-racial) president promising different 'values', but singing the same songs about "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow" and waving banners of 'hope' and 'change' --- which have now been ignored with the same level of contempt and impunity as the last several Empire-controlled Republican and Democratic shills --- who did exactly NOTHING they promised!.
When such obvious contradictions to a government structure of supposed democracy occur many times in a row, but with both supposedly different political parties, and with differing levels of sophistication employed to fool dull and bright voters, the issue is not 'values' but one of deep 'government structure'. And the only conclusion to be made is that we are dealing with a deep and deadly problem of ‘government structure’, which Ben Franklin would have immediately recognized as his fear of Empire supplanting a democratic Republic.
"The problem is not with our stars, Dear citizens, nor with this Obama, nor the previous Clinton nor Bush nor Reagan, nor even with ourselves, but with EMPIRE”
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
I share your rage, man, believe me. We see it the same way.
The administration's plan contains "off-ramps," points starting next June at which Obama could decide to continue the flow of troops, halt the deployments and adopt a more limited strategy or "begin looking very quickly at exiting" the country, depending on political and military progress, one defense official said.
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As I said last month the decision had already been made.
All they were doing was polishing the propaganda.
This is essentially the only difference between Bush and Obama.
Bush just f*cking outright lied to us.
Obama packages his lies within the context of confusing b*llshit.
The country wanted a President who got A's at Harvard instead of C's.
Your wish has been granted.
I wanted a President with courage and a conscience.
Morals and ethics would be nice too.
Yes, you got it right.
The 2008 election was decided by sophisticated liberals from Blue-states like Massachusetts, rather then those conservative rubes from Red-states like Kansas --- so the Empire's lies had to be ever so more sophisticated and subtle to fool these "wicked smart" liberals --- but the results are exactly the same for the hidden EMPIRE.
So, "What's the Matter with Massachusetts?" should be Thomas Frank's next top-selling, but under appreciated book of truth about how the EMPIRE works its propaganda.
It's really not all that complex: The EMPIRE scam can be easily understood by simply looking at two analogies and extending each one to fool those supposedly "wicked smart" Bostonians.
1. The Empire is putting on a 'show' (some might say, a Three Card Monte) that looks exactly like the old laughable "Peanuts" cartoon that ran each fall football season.
'Lucy' would vehemently (and apparently sincerely) promise to hold the ball this year, even though she had pulled it away in all past seasons, and that naive rube 'Charlie Brown' would believe her again. Well, you all know how the cartoon ended every season -- and we all laughed about what a fool ol Charlie was.
Well, with the cartoon of democracy, the EMPIRE simply places two Lucys (one Dem. and one Repub.) on the 'playing' field each fourth fall 'voting season' and gets the exact same results with these supposedly smarter rubes who had the nerve to laugh at Charlie!
2. The Nazi Empire set-up a thinly veiled, one-party 'Vichy' government in a foreign country that it had captured and obviously occupied --- which didn't fool the French people, but got the U.S. to recognize 'Vichy France' as a real government (proving perhaps that the U.S government is even dumber than French people).
Well, the simple change and extension to that EMPIRE's trick (which Goebbels would turn over in his grave and cry about if he could see it now) is merely to install a slightly more sophisticated two-party 'Vichy' government right in the 'homeland' (to which Goebbels would shout, "Mein Furher, I have failed you, How could I not see that what the Global Empire has done in America is what we should have done to build a Thousand Year Reich.")
So there are two extended analogies of how a smart Global Empire fools not only ill-educated conservative Americans, but "wicked smart" liberal Americans into voting themselves into stayin gin the belly of the beast of EMPIRE.
As they say in baseball and hand-grenades, "A win's a win". And the EMPIRE won again --- they just fooled a different demographic with different message from a different shill.
But unlike baseball ----- "There's (not) always next year."
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine [a 'Non-Empire' state regardless of color]
yeah and we watched a proud black man run for office. now we watch a step and
fetch yes sir to the corporations man who has no shame only to serve the
corps and repugs. and his daughters will pay the price for everything that
he should have done to save their generation from global warming war etc.
this man has no business being president. he did all he could to fuck us on the left
starting last july and the telecom vote. and now sending more kids to
their deaths. he has no dignity he has no shame its all about money and
power. and last week he started forcing the re authorization of the
patriot act! snuck it under the radar while the health care business
was happening. hope all of you here who voted for him are happy now.
we will be at war until our treasury is dry. this is a analogy to
the soviet era war in afghanistan that war drained the soviet treasury
this is happening to us now!
Stupid, stupid, stupid! A lot of good calling the White House did.
No, it was not stupid---it depends on how you are looking at it. It was a brilliant move in the view of the people making profit from the death and destruction. That is our 'merican creed---make a profit.
It is death for the people of Afghanistan and the military forces of our nation but it is also the death of our democracy. The people of this nation do not want these illegal wars of aggression and plunder to continue. These same people want Medicare for all and the control of the monetary system of our nation to be done in accordance with our Constitution. The Federal Reserve and all those banksters laughing on their way to their vaults should not be receiveing our tax funds. Those big bonuses they are holding are the funds we need to put Americans to work bebuilding our infrastructure, creating a system of renewable energy and fully funding our domestic programs.
Our Congress is corrupt. A used care salesman has more ethics. To compare the Congress to pimps and whores is to insult the sex workers.
That's exactly what I thought when I read this article's title. Every time I call they do the opposite of what I urge them to do. What's the point?
Looks like Obama is proving he can be just as insane as Bush (and Johnson, c. 1965-69) and just as impervious to all criticism regarding war. What can they possibly think they can accomplish in 6 months that hasn't happened in 9 years? Besides more and more useless, meaningless death and destruction, of course, and that's always a good measure of how well our imperialist wars are going.
Our Nobel Peace Prize winning president apparently hasn't been tuning in to Bill Moyers lately or reading Nader's letters imploring him to get OUT of Afghanistan NOW. Gee, I'm shocked! shocked, I tell you! He's just following the script instructing all this country's leadership that there is one overriding agenda the US must never deviate from: imperial conquest through military domination of all perceived and invented enemies.
It matters not if we never "win" any of our completely unjustifiable, illegal, immoral wars--the point is to keep fighting them forever. Keep the war machine humming along perpetually, under any available pretext. There's no end to serviceable lies, such as bringing Freedom, Democracy, Rule of Law, Liberation of Women (down with the burkha!), and of course "free market" capitalism, the salvation of the world, don't cha know. With our own capitalist economy backed into a corner and pleading for its corrupt life and another chance, our only ace in the hole is war spending and profiteering. Without our countless manufacturers of war materiel, we have no economy.
So death and destruction are all we really have to offer the world. It's our business, very nearly our ONLY business. Obama can't turn his back on that! McChrystal's just a decorated lobbyist for Halliburton, General Dynamics, Lockheed and hundreds, thousands of other US corporations that will continue benefitting from the insertion of 34,000 more troops, to add to the hundreds of thousands of private contractors (mercenaries) there already, without whom our military wouldn't have a chance of surviving. Mostly it's a war prosecuted by private interests, but we need the military mask to make Americans believe it has something to do with "protecting" us from invasions of Taliban and al-Qaeda right on our shores, infiltrating our heartland, kidnapping our women and children, forcing us to worship Allah!
But of course it's all about private profits flowing to fascistic corporations and their puppets in Washington. Obama is there to protect all that, and we all know this even if 'abnsmith' denies it.
Ephraim sez: "What can they possibly think they can accomplish in 6 months that hasn't happened in 9 years?"
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They can drop another $120 billion or so on their MIC patrons. And again the following six months, and so on ...
Brother ... Brother ... Brother ...
I believe you spell it Obomba.
" 'We have to start showing PROGRESS within six months on the political side or military side and that's it,' the U.S. defense official said." (emphasis added)
One person's "progress" is another person's imperial boondoggle of waste and bloodshed.
I strongly suspect, based on ample evidence of the behavior of this beast, that "progress" will mean a supplemental funding bill for tens of billions of dollars in about six months because there will be no noticeable improvement in the lives of ordinary people in Afganistan.
From a capitalist point of view, increasing military budgets makes sense when capitalism is in a crisis of overproduction. The working class cannot afford to purchase back all the products it produces because of the additional cost of commodities caused by the addition of surplus value to those costs which the capitalist class appropriates as profits. On the other hand the capitalist class experiences declining rates of profit. To prop up the latter, production that doesn't have to enter the general arena of social consumption and has the built in mechanism of being quickly disposed of (use a bomb, shoot a bullet and the product is effectively gone) accomplishes for the capitalist class a means to reduce overproduction while at the same time delivering it some additional surplus value and alleviates somewhat the declining rate of profit.
OK, that's the economic analysis of why capitalist demands increasing military spending. From the political perspective military spending bolsters the political power of the capitalist class when used to insure their class hegemony throughout the world. Not only are the capitalists looking for "new market opportunities", but those new markets need to be "stabilized" to fit into the neo-liberal political space. The capitalists seek to create new markets that embody the "rule of law" consistent with the profit motive and all the capitalist institutions required for capitalist economic functioning.
Because social thought is commodified under capitalism, everything becomes a commodity in the eyes of the people, including political decisions - all political choices fall into the league of "consumer choices". Will that be fries with your burger or will that be 20,000 or 60,000 troops with your war?
In conclusion ...
1) Events aren't driven on simple moral or ethical grounds by individuals detached from the economic system they live under. Events are driven by the necessities of the system under which people live. Shit all you want on what Obama may or not decide in terms of this war, but be aware that whoever was in that position would be following essentially the same course only differing by degrees.
2) The struggle against war and for peace is essentially a struggle against the capitalist system of production. If you really want to see an end to wars, you have to build a new economic-social system where wars are no longer necessary because of the irrational structure of the system itself.
3) Any struggle against the interests of the capitalist class and for the interests of the working class accelerates the demise of the capitalist system and opens up the ability to work towards building a more sane system that works in the interests of peoples needs as opposed to the riches of the few. Working class struggle (in all its forms) is the way forward for humanity.
Note ...
Military spending is inflationary. National debts are increased through this type of social spending. The class that gets saddled with this debt becomes the political question down the road. You can be assured that this debt will become the working class's debt if the capitalists have any say in the matter. This will further impact on impoverishing working people while at the same time extending the capitalist crisis of overproduction. Since capitalism is based on certain fundamental contradictions, this one being the major one, there will be no end to capitalist economic crises. They will only become more frequent and deeper, until the working class is finally forced to say enough is enough.
The capitalist class has been playing a great game of divide and conquer. At just the point in history where the working class must pull together to fight the ills of society, it is divided by competing ideologies.
Where I live, during the past election cycle, the Democratic HQ was defaced by local anarchists with slogans like: "Dems are Fascists." I discussed this sentiment with one of these people for about an hour at a "sign waving" party a couple of weeks before the event. I was furious that they would say such things about my party. Now, I am not so certain they were wrong.
During the summer, there was a Tea Bagger rally at the state capitol. I did not attend that, owing to the fact that I cannot keep my mouth shut at rallies, but the sentiments being expressed were similar to the ones being expressed by the anarchists.
These events show that there are a lot of disgruntled people out there looking for a way to move away from the two established parties. With the right leadership, this could be an instrument of positive change. Working class people, whatever ideology they follow, are waiting for an intelligent, charismatic leader who has the strength of character to stand up to the capitalists and make a real difference. Are we willing to allow Sarah Palin to be this leader? Right now, we are at one of those profound crossroads of history. Who on the left will stand up to Palin, and her capitalist handlers, and be a leader of all of the working class?
"Working class people, whatever ideology they follow, are waiting for an intelligent, charismatic leader who has the strength of character to stand up to the capitalists and make a real difference."
And that is precisely the reason that the working class has been pushed down so far over the years. The working class needs to adopt a working class ideology if it expects to take on the capitalist class. This working class ideology is exactly what Marx and later Marxists have contributed to the class struggle. Since it is an ideology for and of the working class, it equips us with the tools of analysis we need to understand the different forces at play at any given time during the process of the capitalist mode of production. It sees everything as a process (it's dialectical), a living and organic thing always in the process of change. It makes it easy to see why Tea Baggers are out there and where some of their points are correct and why their diametric opposites "the anarchists" also have some validity in their positions. The question is how do we bring these various elements together, so they can work as allies in the great struggles ahead against the common enemy? I'm going to suggest that understanding Marxism provides the answers.
I have not read the Communist Manifesto since the late 1960s, but I remember finding Dialectical Materialism, or rather the conclusions drawn by Marx from its application, to be fundamentally flawed. I will re-read the work and see if it makes any more sense now. I do believe that we need to develop a fundamentally new way of viewing the world and the place of humanity, based on the world view of humans before the age of agriculture. We took a fundamental misstep at that point, and it must be corrected.
CapnRog, "I do believe that we need to develop a fundamentally new way of viewing the world and the place of humanity, based on the world view of humans before the age of agriculture. We took a fundamental misstep at that point, and it must be corrected."
Truer words were never spoken, brother. For well over ten thousand years now, we have watched our population increase and our quality of life decrease through totalitarian agriculture. If you say, 'We should live in tribes and forage as our ancestors once did', people say it cannot be done. They are right if you are looking to sustain 6+billion people on this planet. However, just as dolphins live in pods and elephants in herds, humans live in tribes. R.I.M. Dunbar, in his "CO-EVOLUTION OF NEOCORTEX SIZE, GROUP SIZE AND LANGUAGE IN HUMANS" found that the ideal group size for humans is 148 people. This allows for lively, active and peaceable interaction on a constant basis, without much intra-group violence due to various personal ties. Now look at us. Crowded into cities, we slash at each other like animals in cages. We are simply too big anymore to be any earthly good.
There are so many ways that this current civilization could be brought down that it's not even funny. Some new disease, massive solar storms, mass global uprisings, etc., would do it. After this falls, the great Washing Out and Return to Innocence happens, whether or not we want it to. In our hubris, we seem to have forgotten that we grew mighty, only through being shaped and molded by evolution and this planet, just as every other species has. We're not separate from 'nature', no matter how many lies we tell ourselves. We can pretty it up all we like but, in the end, the only 'sustainable' level of human development was before the Neolithic age. We existed for millions of years with no tool more advanced than a goddamn stick. We existed and became the big brained, hairless apes we are by being shaped and molded by evolution and 'nature'. We will submit to be shaped and molded again or we will cease to exist, just as 90%+ of all the life that came before us, has ceased to exist.
Das Kapital is immensely complex and forbidding to most readers these days. I've only read parts and much of Vol. 1 I find more impenetrable than Derrida or Deleuze, and that's damned impenetrable. Marx's wasn't writing for the common folk, even if his works were meant to liberate them, which sadly they never did because they fell into the hands of despots and authoritarian maniacs like Lenin and Stalin. But to blithely dismiss dialectical materialism as "fundamentally flawed" is a bit pretentious, wouldn't you think? There is much Marx has to teach us, if only we didn't have 100 years of propaganda warning us away from it. Our system is what his work tried to demolish, or rather it's the sixth generation of capitalism we're imprisoned by that, if Marx had been more intelligently applied a hundred years ago, by great socialist leaders like Eugene Debs or even the obscure Daniel DeLeon, we'd have a very different society today. Unrecognizable to us.
What might have been "flawed" all those years ago, rather might have been something you were missing in coming to grips with it. I'm the first to admit that Marx can be quite difficult to get a handle on mainly because of the fact his analysis is so alien to how we're taught to look at the world under a capitalist system. I've studied Marx for 40 years now and each re-reading of his different works, keep introducing newer understandings and clarity. Through those 40 years, although so much has changed and the system continues to move forward through all sorts of different incarnations, at the time, Marxism was still the only world outlook that appeared to explain what was happening in the real world of the time.
We are indoctrinated under the capitalist ideology which exposes the world as one of cause and effects. Marx didn't look at the world like that at all. He saw the world as always in a state of change, always moving and developing. The dialectical method is the only way to be able to interpret the real situation at a specific time in space and time. Getting into that frame of mind takes some learning and effort after spending lifetimes under the capitalist way of thinking. :-)
Marx was the Darwin of Social Thinking. He saw the evolution of human society. What he didn't see was the limitation of natural resources. He assumed humanity had a lot more time to develop than it has. Unfortunately, humanity was already a failed species by the time Marx came along.
In real life applications of Marxist ideology, it has been the "dictatorship of the proletariat" that has consistently failed. Any dictatorship is fundamentally flawed, and will always become repressive. Why go through all of the hardship, chaos, deprivation, and violence to replace one repressive form of government with another just as repressive or worse. We have to develop something new. We have ample evidence that the old ways will not work to solve the challenges of today.
"Struggle"
Your analysis seems close to accurate, but you forgot to mention that in the United States of America we put a little glow of Jesus into every product. Thus, whether it be a bag of dog food or a hellfire missle, we can rest assured that we are full of "grace". Remember, Jesus said " Do unto the least before you ride that camel through the eye of those who needle you."
very witty -- funny I was thinking about the needle qoute last night.
LOL