Move to Impeach Not Another Distraction
Tuesday’s attempt by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, to introduce a motion calling for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney was a perfect illustration of why Congress has a lower approval rating than President Bush.
Under House rules, Kucinich offered a privileged resolution calling for impeachment. That meant the full House had two days to consider Kucinich’s motion.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., didn’t want to wait that long. He moved to table (i.e., kill) Kucinich’s motion. That was not a surprise. Hoyer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and the rest of the Democratic leadership remain steadfastly opposed to impeachment.
Hoyer counted on a quick vote to kill it. But Republican House members decided they wanted to cause a little mischief. During an unusually long vote, enough Republican members switched their votes to pass the measure by a 251-162 margin.
The Republicans thought they had an opportunity to force Democrats to debate impeaching Cheney on the House floor in front of the C-SPAN cameras. So Hoyer pulled another ace from the bottom of the deck and moved to have the resolution referred to the House Judiciary Committee. That passed by a 218-194 vote.
Kucinich’s motion could end up being buried in that committee, which is led by Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. Previous impeachment efforts have gone nowhere in Conyer’s committee, and this effort will likely meet the same fate.
Little news coveragewas devoted to this vote, and what there was focused more on the politics than the substance of what happened. While both parties accused the other of playing partisan games, the reality is that this was the first real attempt to highlight the misdeeds of the Bush administration and force the Democrats to take a stand on impeaching Bush and Cheney.
And caught in the middle of this was Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vt.
On one side are Pelosi and Hoyer, who gave the freshman congressman a plum assignment on the House Rules Committee. Welch’s loyalty to the Democratic leadership is reflected by his support of the leadership’s stand against impeachment.
On the other side are his constituents, who support impeachment. A recent WCAX poll found 61 percent of Vermonters support impeachment of President Bush and 64 percent support impeachment of Vice President Cheney.
So what did Welch do? He split the difference. Welch voted to debate Kucinich’s motion on the floor, then voted to sent it to the Judiciary Committee.
While Welch and other Democrats continue to talk about impeachment being a distraction to more important priorities, such as ending the war in Iraq, the reality is that the Democrats haven’t figured out yet that none of the issues they hold dear will be accomplished until Bush and Cheney are removed from office.
Remember, we’re talking about a president whose approval ratings are in the mid-20s. This week, the Gallup Poll found that, for the first time in its history, 50 percent of Americans say they “strongly disapprove” of the president. That beat the previous mark of 48 percent set by Richard Nixon in July 1974, just before the House Judiciary Committee began an impeachment inquiry.
More unpopular than Nixon. That’s where President Bush is right now. And Vice President Cheney is even more unpopular. Yet the Democrats are still frightened of these men and afraid to confront them. That’s why, as disliked as Bush and Cheney are, voters give the Democratic-led Congress even lower marks.
A Democratic majority was elected to Congress last year to end the war in Iraq and rein in the Bush administration. Neither thing has happened. On issue after issue, the Democrats have caved in to Bush. And impeachment remains off the table.
Under House rules, Kucinich or any other member could introduce a motion for impeachment every day that Congress is in session. We think that sounds like a good idea. The administration has committed many crimes that rise to the level of impeachment — chief among them lying about the need to invade Iraq and sending this country into war based upon those lies. But Congress will not carry out its constitutional duties.
Bush and Cheney must not be allowed to leave office without being held accountable for their behavior. History will not look at the current members of Congress kindly if they fail to do what is right and necessary to preserve our democracy.
© 2007 the Brattleboro Reformer
It is beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Democratic Party leadership’s strategy is to let the clock run out and only support candidates that look a lot like Republicans..
It is highly probable that this strategy will cost them the 2008 election…presidential, senate and congress.
Bush/Cheney are within arms reach of their “nuclur” veto.
Anyone worried about aggravating these two clowns?
Write to John Conyers: John.Conyers@mail.house.gov
I called the 1-800 number I found on this website yesterday to reach Nancy Pelosi. There I was answered by a polite young man who promised “to relay my message.” I also e-mailed John Conyers, and received an automatic e-mail responder. There is no point in contacting my own representatives; I live in SC; ’nuff said there. Is there any way to break through the beltway bubble?
I’ve written the House Judiciary Committee, and I’ve sent an email to friends and family asking them to do the same. Here is what I sent. Please feel free to use it and send to your friends and families:
Dear Friends and Family,
A couple of days ago Dennis Kucinch forced a resolution to impeach Vice President Cheney onto the floor on the House. It was referred to the Judiciary Committee. The Democratic Party leadership, for purposes of
their own, want to kill this resolution. Having the Judiciary Committee sit on the resolution without holding hearings is one way to do this. This resolution is receiving scant attention in the mainstream media. Here is a link to article which reports some details:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/06/5065/
Here is an initial press release from the House Judiciary Committee which demonstrates our need to put pressure on these politicians.
http://judiciary.house.gov/newscenter.aspx?A=880
Here is how to contact the House Judiciary Committee via email:
http://judiciary.house.gov/Contact.aspx
Here is a list of Judiciary Committee members who can and should also be contacted:
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx
I would encourage you all to take a moment to write the House Judiciary Committee to demand that they take up the issue and schedule hearings. This is a fundamental matter of upholding our system of checks and balances. There has never been, at least in my lifetime, such a corrupt and criminal Administration as the one presently occupying the White House. Starting impeachment proceedings against Vice President Cheney would be a start toward holding those accountable for their abuses and lawlessness.
Please consider sending an email to the Committee. It only takes a few minutes. Please feel free to forward this email to others as you see fit.
I guess our only option is to wait it out. Wait until the Economy breaks completely. Then, once all hell breaks loose, we can get something done.
But it’s just impossible to get the average person, of average intelligence to even understand what is happening, and what the impact will be in the next 50 years.
At some point Bush and Cheney will be face trial for War Crimes. But it will be so far down the road it won’t really have any impact. It won’t happen for another 20 years at least. And by then it might be too late.
I don’t want to be a fatalist, but, I just don’t see any change in the near future. Unless the market crashes completely or gas is $5 per gallon
~Future~
You can talk about Impeachment all you want I don’t think it’s going to happen. This isn’t the country it was back in 1974. Weve slipped even further down that slippery slope towards an industrial miltary complex. The military is in control now just ask General Petraeus.
Thanks for the e-mail address. I e-mailed Conyers.
This is not a democracy. We need to know where we stand. We need to know the truth.
The Congress and Senate are not listening to us and if they are, they to not care what we are saying.
We are losing our country right before our eyes. This will only get worse. We must get control of this situation.
Impeachment is a must.
The strategic thinking of Democratic leadership is so cautious, it really does in itself prove they do not possess leadership qualities and are not worthy of the power they currently hold.
This article is exactly correct that the entire plan of Democratic leadership depends on impeachment hearings as a pre-requisite. The only other option is an immediate de-funding of the War. Those are the two options. Do one or both. Failure to do either will lead justifiably to another reversal of Party control ASAP.
Another stunning element to this is the media blackout. I spoke to friends who had no idea there was a resolution to impeach Cheney introduced on Tuesday. Very few people are aware this event occurred.
The only places it could be found are some derogatory articles at Washington Post, and short blurbs at Fox News and USA Today.
Not a peep from CNN or the major networks other than Fox. Interestingly, I think this might prove the conservative argument that many papers are slanted toward Democrats, as media blackout conforms exactly to the thinking and actions of Dem leaders.
The Dempublicrats in congress are more concerened with preserving the ” unitary presidency” for Hillary than preserving the country.
This editorial (and its comment thread) is yet another instance of bitter complaints about Pelosi and the majority of Dems taking impeachment “off the table.” The reason that the Speaker announced that as soon as she was installed seemed obvious to me then, and still does: If Bush and Cheney are impeached, convicted and removed, Pelosi becomes President!!! Nothing could possibly appear more self-serving than Our Nancy charging into an impeachment fight whose outcome makes her the first female American President — and one who was NOT ELECTED. Come on — let’s think clearly here, instead of bashing her as if she’d “betrayed” the party.
The beauty of Kucinich’s attempt to impeach Cheney, however, is that it does an end run around the Pelosi-as-President problem and at the same time may rid us of someone far more dangerous than the Shrub. I don’t think it matters if, when we e-mail John Conyers and tell him to get moving, we get an automatic email response. The idea is to inundate his office with a demand that he schedule hearings to investigate whether Cheney should be impeached, and on what grounds. Let’s use this opportunity to shine some light on the doings of the “Dark Lord!”
Each time Congress lets something like this slide we move farther away from the Democracy we thought we used to have. The Warren commission on the JFK assassinations, justice swept under the rug. Now the same bunch of criminals that did that crime are running our country. If attacking an innocent nation isn’t a crime what is? Why do us citizens have to obey the law?
Bring the topic up, win or lose it will be a good discovery project. If the Democrats do have some strategy [I can’t see any] they should tell us what it is. I am just getting more and more pissed off at them. They are all complicit with war crimes already, Can we get them arrested?
Maybe Dennis can bring up charges on all of Congress.
Myrtle, thanks for the e-mail address for Congressman Conyers. I, too, just e-mailed him, essentially begging him to support impeaching Vice President Dick Cheney, as per the articles of impeachment introduced by Congressman Kucinich on April 24, 2007, and as voted upon and sent to his committee this past Tuesday.
Everyone reading this article and thread of posts, please do the same.
There is a movement to oppose congressional incumbents in every district, possibly excepting the ones that have gone on record to impeach Bush and Cheney. Join it!
“Is there any way to break through the beltway bubble?”
Theoretically, by amassing enough power to influence events at critical points.
Realistically, per my post elsewhere, push Pelosi on impeachment. Tell her it’s her duty to get Cheney’s finger away from the button.
If you call, if you write or e-mail, inform them you are sending money to Cindy Sheehan because she supports impeachment of Cheney.
Where is the Green Party? The other minor parties? I can’t hear them. Can Pelosi?
Let Pelosi know that she will be out of Congress in ‘09, one way or another. She could be in the White House or she could be on unemployment. Her choice.
“While Welch and other Democrats continue to talk about impeachment being a distraction to more important priorities…”
While Kucinich was upholding his oath of office on Tuesday, Congressman Welch was sponsoring a bill to congratulate the Red Sox on their World Series victory. I swear, you can’t make this shit up.
Newsflash: Impeach any and all ya want. Cheneybush are IMMUNE from ALL LAWS in the known universe, haven’t you heard?
That includes subpoenas, court orders and judgments, and anything Congress has to say about anything, unless it’s “Okay, boss!”
I’ve noticed that most comments recommend sending e-mails and making phone calls to elected officials.
I’m not saying to stop doing that, but in my mind, the physical evidence of voter dissatisfaction would be harder to ignore in the form of letters. 1000, 5000, 10,000 and many more. Actual, hold in your hand envelopes by the bagful, is at the very least an inconvenience for the officials.
This visual evidence of dissatification is harder to ignore than easily deleted e-mails and phone calls that never get past the outer office.
Hundreds of thousands of letters in post office bags is an image even the corporate media just might make mention of.
Here is a complete list of members of the Judiciary Commitee - call them all. If you are in a Republican District keep in mind that they are the ones that kept this issue alive yesterday - call them up and thank them and ask them to send it back the the floor. Oh and Hon. is what they call themselves, I no longer find any honor in what they’ve been doing.
Democrats
Hon. Berman
(D) California, 28th
Hon. Boucher
(D) Virginia, 9th
Hon. Nadler
(D) New York, 8th
Hon. Scott
(D) Virginia, 3rd
Hon. Watt
(D) North Carolina, 12th
Hon. Lofgren
(D) California, 16th
Hon. Jackson Lee
(D) Texas, 18th
Hon. Waters
(D) California, 35th
Hon. Delahunt
(D) Massachusetts, 10th
Hon. Wexler
(D) Florida, 19th
Hon. Sánchez
(D) California, 39th
Hon. Cohen
(D) Tennessee, 9th
Hon. Johnson
(D) Georgia, 4th
Hon. Sutton
(D) Ohio, 13th
Hon. Gutierrez
(D) Illinois, 4th
Hon. Sherman
(D) California, 27
Hon. Baldwin
(D) Wisconsin, 2nd
Hon. Weiner
(D) New York, 9th
Hon. Schiff
(D) California, 29th
Hon. Davis
(D) Alabama , 7th
Hon. Wasserman Schultz
(D) Florida, 20th
Hon. Ellison
(D) Minnesota, 5th
Republican
Hon. Sensenbrenner Jr.
(R) Wisconsin, 5th
Hon. Coble
(R) North Carolina, 6th
Hon. Gallegly
(R) California, 24th
Hon. Goodlatte
(R) Virginia, 6th
Hon. Chabot
(R) Ohio, 1st
Hon. Lungren
(R) California, 3rd
Hon. Cannon
(R) Utah, 3rd
Hon. Keller
(R) Florida, 8th
Hon. Issa
(R) California, 49th
Hon. Pence
(R) Indiana, 6th
Hon. Forbes
(R) Virginia, 4th
Hon. King
(R) Iowa, 5th
Hon. Feeney
(R) Florida, 24th
Hon. Franks
(R) Arizona, 2nd
Hon. Gohmert
(R) Texas, 1st
Hon. Jordan
(R) Ohio, 4th
I’ve noticed that most comments recommend sending e-mails and making phone calls to elected officials.
I’m not saying to stop doing that, but in my mind, the physical evidence of voter dissatisfaction would be harder to ignore in the form of letters. 1000, 5000, 10,000 and many more. Actual, hold in your hand envelopes by the bagful, is at the very least an inconvenience for the officials.
This visual evidence of dissatification is harder to ignore than easily deleted e-mails and phone calls that never get past the outer office.
Hundreds of thousands of letters in post office bags is an image even the corporate media just might make mention of.
Let’s push writing letters as much as e-mails and phone calls.
I had emailed my rep, Barney Frank (D-MA), urging him to support the resolution…no response. It’s funny…when I emailed him a few weeks ago urging him to support another resolution (Armenian Genocide), I got a positive email response right back. I guess he only responds when he agrees with you…
I’ve noticed that most comments recommend sending e-mails and making phone calls to elected officials.
I’m not saying to stop doing that, but in my mind, the physical evidence of voter dissatisfaction would be harder to ignore in the form of letters. 1000, 5000, 10,000 and many more. Actual, hold in your hand envelopes by the bagful, is at the very least an inconvenience for the officials.
This visual evidence of dissatification is harder to ignore than easily deleted e-mails and phone calls that never get past the outer office.
Hundreds of thousands of letters in post office bags is an image even the corporate media just might make mention of.
Let’s push writing letters as much as e-mails and phone calls.
I’m having trouble submitting comment, please forgive me if it posts more than once.
The other very useful thing would be to;
1. donate to the Kucinich campaign
followed up by;
2. request Kucinich to bring this to the floor every day from now until something is done.
Any one know the best way to contact the campaing and request this effort?
Come on guys. Do you not realize that this motion to impeach Bush/Cheney would have passed if the complaint were sex?
“I don’t want to be a fatalist, but, I just don’t see any change in the near future. Unless the market crashes completely or gas is $5 per gallon.”
Oh don’t worry, Future.me ! By the time that happens, I’ll just walk, carpool, or take the bus to college/ work! I can’t drive at age 18 and I feel fine. Besides, maybe more walking will stop the obesity crisis.
The story about Kucinich’s articles of impeachment, and the House’s reaction, was pretty much buried in yesterday’s LA Times. Even then, it was spun as though it were some sort of stunt, and Kucinich himself was labeled as the “far-left” presidential candidate (as though that were bad). It’s no wonder a lot of people are not talking about this, and much less even know about it. I’m very disappointed Rep. Conyers seems to have changed his tune about impeachment. Like many others, I’ve washed my hands of the Democrats. Only when the economy heads south, as I believe it soon will, can we expect people to become desperate enough to affect change. Like many of you, I’m hoping it’s not too late by then.
Seriously! Many have said that it could be done, that is to bring this measure to the floor every day. So why not advocate for that?? If we all send letters of support and possibly $ to Kucinich and ask him to take this approach then maybe he would actually do it. If nothing else at least the MSM would have to cover it with more gusto than they did the first go around.
So again, whats the best way to contact the campaign to push for this strategy? We all know how to donate money but we need to have a way to flood his e-mail with requests.
DO NOT BECOME SO ENAMORED WITH THE FOX HUNT THAT YOU TRIP OVER THE FOX! … old Indian saying….
IMPEACH NOW!
sambagis… that is one Hell of a good idea!
This will be my last post on Common Dreams. I am out of place here, anyway, being a libertarian, instead of a conventional liberal progressive.
Nevertheless, I felt I belonged here, because I voted straight-ticket Democrat last year, in the hopes that Bush-Cheney would be impeached. If not impeached, I hoped BushCo would be repudiated, and perhaps the spy laws reined in. Instead I see that not only is the “fix” in on Impeachment, I can’t even get enough mileage out of my vote to abolish waterboarding. That is frankly disgusting beyond belief, and I will never vote Democrat again.
This is a battle between those who oppose authoritarianism and those who love the Empire. I believe the desperation of it has crossed party lines and social issues. It’s quite simply either Them or Us.
“Them” meaning the *Neo-Con World Order*…warmongers, authoritarians, and constitution-destroyers who wrap themselves in the flag. Oh yes, and those who approve of torture. As the Mukasey vote has amply proven, they are equally represented in the leadership of both prevailing political parties.
There is no meaningful differential. The Bible bangers yap loudly about social issues, but as Pat Robertson proved yesterday, all they really want is war, killing, and torture. The so-called ‘opposition party’ goes along with it, heedless of any moral compass (or signs of conscience).
I support anyone who is against the establishment. If Dennis Kucinich won the Democratic nomination, I’d be delighted. He won’t, of course. But I also support Cindy Sheehan and Ron Paul. Of the three, I believe Paul will go farthest, because he has the most money, and money is all the news media understands–or respects.
My final message to the many of you who are liberal progressives, who have begun to spit out the Democratic Kool-Aid, is this: We Ron Paul folks will warmly greet you whenever you finally get enough, and come to join our side.
We stand for Peace and Freedom. I know you do, too.
Here is the e-mail I just sent to Conyers. Feel free to edit and send your own letter:
Dear Sir,
I’ve written to you before about this issue when HR 333 was introduced in April. I’m writing now, again, because this bill was referred to your committee by a vote in the House yesterday. You are more than well aware of why impeachment was a tool given you by the founding fathers when they wrote the Constitution. They knew that this was the ONLY remedy that would work when the executive branch got out of control. You know that impeachment is the ONLY way to restore the balance of power required to make our democracy function properly. You KNOW that you have a constitutional obligation to begin the process by bringing charges of impeachment. And I want to stress the work PROCESS. If you believe that there is enough evidence to bring charges, DO IT! It doesn’t matter how the jury (the Senate) will rule after hearing the evidence. That’s not your job. Your job (duty) is to bring the charges. Period. You KNOW that you have to start with Cheney because the evidence for impeachment is in the public record. You can easily ascertain from the articles presented in HR333 are valid. Do it. Do it NOW. Before it is too late.
Your failure to bring impeachment charges against Cheney is a willful dereliction to your oath of office, and your failure is compounded by your place on the House Judiciary Committee. This is not a political game we are playing here. We are in a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS! If you fail to act NOW, than you will have to equally share the responsibility for the continued deaths in Iraq, an invasion of Iran, torture, and the dismantling of democracy in America. You will become an accomplice to this crime because you did not act when you had the moral and constitutional responsibility to do so.
PLEASE, prove to the American people that you are still the representative of the American people and the defender of the Constitution that you have proven to be in the past. If you step up, the American people will have your back. We want our country BACK! PLEASE give HR333 a fair hearing in the Judiciary Committee.
Thank you in advance for acting on HR333.
TO SUPPORT H.R. 333 to impeach Cheney, go to
http://www.usalone.com/hres333.php
There you will find a form that will let you simultaneously voice support for the Kucinich Bill to (1) your senators & representative; (2) John Conyers, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee which now has the bill for consideration; (3) all of the JC members; (4) Pelosi & Hoyer; (5) the newspaper of your choice; and (6) whatever friends and relatives you want to make aware of this.
DO IT!
I emailed Conyers.
Email sent to Conyers. Begging, pleading, appealing to his oath. We’ll see….
The right wing circus freakshows, sideshows and horror shows are designed to distract.
The MAIN EVENT is IMPEACHMENT.
I listen to rightwing radio and was interested to hear Glenn Beck talking about how scary these times are…how the leftwing ‘crazies’ are being manipulated (where that manipulation was coming from wasn’t clear) and we were in a period that could lead to civil war. He said that he felt that the tenor of the country was changing. He could ‘feel’ something going on!
Anyone else ‘feeling’ the tenor change? I guess he feels that if we all don’t fall in line with the ‘word’ coming out of DC, we have to be anarchists and communists! Get ready! It’s coming! I’m not sure what ‘it’ will be, but it’s coming!
TO SUPPORT H.R. 333 to impeach Cheney, go to
http://www.usalone.com/hres333.php
Been there; done that!
lets face it. there will be absolutely no accountability for any of them. they are the privilaged, and the laws do not apply to them. they will also highjack the history books, and end up as heroes.
Here’s the text of my message to Conyers….
I have watched you for years and often have felt that you spoke for ME even though I live in another state. It has been refreshing to see/hear someone say what needed to be said over and over again on a variety of issues! Thank you for that!
So, now, it’s time to speak again! It’s time to prove that our Constitution is for real and that all of the people who inhabit Congress truly believe in the oath they took to uphold it. It’s time for the Judiciary Committee to do it’s job and investigate this administration and decide whether or not it has committed ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ worthy of impeachment! It’s time for Americans in Congress to stand up for the U.S. of A! It’s time to make us great once again through application of our Constitution and it’s laws! Stand firm and do what you know is right!
We have the power to make things right, or to look the other way and flush our Constitution down the tube. Please prove President Bush wrong when he apparently said that the Constitution “…..is nothing more than a God Damned piece of paper.” The people of your state have given you the power! Please USE it for all of us!
I placed “Impeach!” in the subject line, so expect that there will be a count and many of these won’t even get read.
Lets all remember here that many to most if not all of the ones in congress that we are writing to have shown they are playing politics and so we know the game. The only player that is playing the way we want to play (impeachment hearings) is Kucinich. We need to find a way to tell him that there are tons of us out there that want him to keep bringing this to the floor. I cant stress it enough, if this is a real possibility, and Im sure it is, then its the only one that has a guaranteed outcome. Media coverage, followed by more coverage, followed by name calling, followed by political spin and character assassination(Kucinich) and finally maybe just maybe the debate on if the VP is a criminal or not, which of course we all know he is. Everyone is trying their very best to stay away from the real issue. This is the only course of action that might lead to an end where they finally have to talk about it.
We won’t reach people next year when things go bat-shit crazy.
Get Cheney in a chair in a Congressional room somewhere, anywhere, so we know where he is. Keep him in plain sight and away from his secret hide-outs.
Pre-exempt next year’s plans of the neo-cons. Strike first.
Get the attention of the Judiciary Committee, especially Conyers and Pelosi.
Tell them to impeach Cheney or get swept out of the House like dirt.
Save the world.
i emailed conyers. his auto email responce time was 81 seconds !! man, i bet that will keep him awake tonight.
Keep it ACTIVE……………………………………
Courtesy of Nikki Alexander…………..
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Here are the members of the House Judiciary Committee. I have tried to locate an individual email address for each of them, (when possible)bypassing the congressional web forms that require your zip code.
If you wish to contact the whole Judiciary Committee in one email: http://judiciary.house.gov/Contact.aspx
Congressional Email Directory: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Call Congress members toll free:
1-800-828-0498
1-800-862-5530
1-800-833-6354
Now that the H.Res.333 - the Cheney impeachment bill - (renumbered H.Res.799) has gone to this committee please pressure them every day.
Wikipedia has an excellent summary of the bill status and the players involved. It is very effective to know how each congress person thinks and how they normally vote so that you can reach inside their existing mindset. A good website that describes every candidate’s position on the issues is: http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm. The Wikipedia H.Res.333 website gives you insight into House Judiciary members and also those who co-signed the impeachment bill and spoke openly about their reasons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_333 Very interesting.
House Judiciary Committee members (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_the_Judiciary)
Majority Minority
John Conyers, Chairman, Michigan
Howard L. Berman, California
Rick Boucher, Virginia
Jerrold Nadler, New York
Robert C. Scott, Virginia
Mel Watt, North Carolina
Zoe Lofgren, California
Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas
Maxine Waters, California
Bill Delahunt, Massachusetts
Robert Wexler, Florida
Linda T. Sánchez, California
Steve Cohen, Tennessee
Hank Johnson, Georgia
Luis Gutierrez, Illinois
Brad Sherman, California
Anthony D. Weiner, New York
Adam B. Schiff, California
Artur Davis, Alabama
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida
Keith Ellison, Minnesota
Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin[1]
1 vacancy
Lamar S. Smith, Ranking Member, Texas
Jim Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin
Howard Coble, North Carolina
Elton Gallegly, California
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia
Steve Chabot, Ohio
Dan Lungren, California
Chris Cannon, Utah
Ric Keller, Florida
Darrell Issa, California
Mike Pence, Indiana
Randy Forbes, Virginia
Steve King, Iowa
Tom Feeney, Florida
Trent Franks, Arizona
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Jim Jordan, Ohio
individual email addresses:
Democrats
John Conyers: john.conyers@mail.house.gov
Howard Berman: howard.berman@mail.house.gov
Rick Boucher: ninthnet@mail.house.gov
Jerold Nadler: http://www.house.gov/nadler/emailform.shtml
Robert Scott: bobby.scott@mail.house.gov
Mel Watt: http://www.wattforcongress.com/contactus.html
Zoe Lofgren: zoe.lofgren@mail.house.gov
Sheila Jackson-Lee: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Maxine Waters: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Bill Delahunt: william.delahunt@mail.house.gov
Robert Wexler: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Linda Sanchez: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Steve Cohen: steve@cohenforcongress.com
Hank Johnson: hank@hankjohnsonforcongress.com
Luis Gutierrez: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Brad Sherman: http://www.house.gov/sherman/contact/
Anthony Weiner: weiner@mail.house.gov
Adam Schiff: http://schiff.house.gov/HoR/CA29/Contact+Information/Contact+Form.htm
Artur Davis: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Congresswomandebbiewassermanschultz@mail.house.gov
Keith Ellison: http://ellison.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75
Tammy Baldwin: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Republicans
Lamar Smith: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Jim Sensenbrenner: sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov
Howard Coble: howard.coble@mail.house.gov
Elton Gallegly: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Bob Goodlatte: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Steve Chabot: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Dan Lungren: http://lungren.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=146&
Chris Cannon: cannon.ut03@mail.house.gov
Ric Keller: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Darrell Issa: http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html
Mike Pence: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Randy Forbes: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Steve King: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Tom Feeney: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Trent Franks: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Louie Gohmert: http://www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm
Jim Jordan: http://www.jimjordanforcongress.com/contact.htm
To Contact Dennis Kucinich
1-877-41-DENNIS
or email: info@dennis4president.com
website: Dennis4President.com
I have always had a non-auto response when I have emailed..once even got a short note from Elizabeth.
He is the only one standing for us, let’s support him and elect him to the Presidency…it can be done and will.
By the way, if you donate to Dennis, put a “7″ in the amount like $7, $27, $2007, or even $7,777. They are keeping track of these donations that have a “7″ in them to directly tie them to HR333. That way you can support Kucinich, HR333, and impeachment. You get more bang for your buck!
Also http://www.afterdowningstreet.org is a huge resource for info on impeachment. They reported over there in the last hour or so that the phone lines are all tied up in Congress over HR333. Conyer’s office is even hanging up on people. Here are a few toll free numbers for you to help clog up the whole system:
800-828-0498, 800-614-2803, 866-340-9281, 877-851-0437, 800-862-5530, and 800-833-6354.
BTW: D.C. has a bad habit of discontinuing toll free numbers, so some of these may not work today.
P.S. And don’t forget about Pelosi. She needs an earful too! Her e-mail as Speaker (available to all Americans) is
AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov
I’m sure she would love to hear from you and what you think about HR333.
Paul from Texas,
CD is a large community, there’s room for libertarians, socialists, greens, progressive populists, even intellectual anarchists. If this were just a place for what passes today as liberalism (i.e. crypto-neocons + suger-coated capitalism) I’d have long left as well.
Regarding the impeachment=distraction claim by the DLC, I’d buy it if they were hot-and-heavy into crafting single-payer health care, Range/IRV at the national level, electoral reform, etc. But since none of this is going on and the country was brought war for false reasons, impeachment and trial are hardly distractions from democracy. They were elected to do this job. Of course their ratings are in the sewer. They were elected to serve We The People, and instead they served Bush.
What the hell is the point in voting?
If impeachment is out, how about treason in the International Court along with war crimes, crimes against Humanity, using WMD & Words of Mass Deception. Dupleted uranium, with a 1/2 life of 6.5 bln yrs will contanimate every person there & then the World, torture is the greatest evil, illegal spying, letting scooter scoot free while the r 100 of 1000’s innocent people in the US Just This system with Fibberty for all. A glorified self serving form of welfare-FTG
John Conyers should start the House Committee hearings with a couple of days devoted to the Downing Street memos, and then move on to the role of Bush and Cheney in adopting torture as US policy, and their program (begun prior to 9/11) to use NSA electronic surveillance technology for domestic spying in violation of the FISA statute.
While the House is doing that legwork, the Senate should simultaneously take up for debate the Byrd-Clinton bill to repeal the 2002 Iraq War AUMF resolution. These two things definitely overlap. The country would be treated to several weeks of nonstop public discussion on use and abuse of the war powers, a dialogue demonstrating that our Constitutional checks and balances are not completely dead.
If the effort “succeeds” by deterring Bush from bombing Iran after the primaries but before the 2008 general election (as supposedly is planned), or even “succeeds” further by getting a withdrawal timetable inserted into future military appropriation bills (backing off on impeachment proceedings as a trade off), then folks can stop, take a deep breath, cut back on the whining, and concentrate on going after the die hard warmongers rather than focusing their anger upon those who do not oppose the war as vigorously as I, personally, wish.
If the effort fails, then we are no worse off than we are right now. The process itself would set the stage for making the Iraq War the cutting edge issue it should be in November, 2008.
Repeal of the AUMF should, of course, be quickly followed up by repeal of the immunity provisions authorizing torture contained in the Military Commissions Act, and repeal of the warrantless wiretapping immunity Congress granted in earlier FISA legislation.
I hate to sound like a broken record on this, BUT, no matter how much you may favor impeachment of Bush and Cheney, you can’t convict somebody of a high CRIME or misdemeanor when the law of the land still authorizes them to do what they did, or declares they are immune from prosecution for doing what they did.
Repeal first. Then impeach.
But start the House hearings and the Senate debate tomorrow.
Bill from Saginaw
Hey Paul from Texas, don’t give up. That’s what they want. They (the “cons”) thrive on voter apathy. Don’t give in to there BS. The cons are stuffing the Democrats at every turn, making them appear as a “DO Nothing Congress”. Yeah, the Dems are lame but please don’t give up your vote. The blame is still on the Bushies.
I e-mailed Conyers to.
And Pelosi has no excuse, or the right taking Impeachment off the table. If she didn’t think she could fight the good fight for the people who voted her a promotion in 2006 then her shallowness and doubletalk should not be rewarded with our trust.
Bring the measure to the floor every day. That’s how Mike Gravel got rid of the draft.
“Yet the Democrats are still frightened of these men and afraid to confront them.”
They’re not afraid of these men. Dems are afraid of losing their corporate funding.
ezeflyer, you have a point and I agree that the large majority are scared of loosing their $. I dont beleive Kucinich is one of them. That is why we need to support him and tell him exactly what we want him to do, no exceptions.
Michigan, you are so right: 10,000 letters dumped on the desks of our congressmen would make an impact!
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Michigan November 8th, 2007 3:15 pm
I’ve noticed that most comments recommend sending e-mails and making phone calls to elected officials.
I’m not saying to stop doing that, but in my mind, the physical evidence of voter dissatisfaction would be harder to ignore in the form of letters. 1000, 5000, 10,000 and many more. Actual, hold in your hand envelopes by the bagful, is at the very least an inconvenience for the officials.
This visual evidence of dissatification is harder to ignore than easily deleted e-mails and phone calls that never get past the outer office.
Hundreds of thousands of letters in post office bags is an image even the corporate media just might make mention of.
Let’s push writing letters as much as e-mails and phone calls.
I have to say that I kind of dissagree with the sentament that all of these calls and letters will do anything. If this congress has done anything they have shown us just how good they are at ignoring us. What they cant ignore is media coverage. They know better than we do that of the people that vote (less than 50%) of those only a very small number actually pay any attention other than small sound bits in the MSM. That is why this privaliged resolution is such a cool thing. If Dennis were to get really angry and start bringing it to the floor like Gravel did with the draft then it would get the media hyped up. This is what the Dems cannot ignore. Letters, email, phone calls. They figure that these are all the result of that scant few that actually pay attention but dont actually represent that much of the voting population. Got to beat them at their own game. Make it stand out in a way that cannot be left alone any longer.
Michigan, if you’re still ‘here’, tell me again how letters are going to help. If they can ignore physical protests, blot out phone records and refuse to return calls or otherwise acknowldege you’re speaking to them-how do you know letters will have any impact at all. I mean for Pete’s sake, we can’t even find out how many brave souls died for us today.
Sign me frustrated in Shepherd, MI.
Media Sam Bagis-use Media?!>? Are you kidding me? We’re the people, we can’t afford media-have you even heard about the vote on CNN. Maybe they put it out there but by damned, you don’t hear about it now. The media is complicit in this mess, the price for us to get our message out is likely X times higher than Dubya’s bill to have O’Reilly tell you you’re dreaming.
We’re in serious shit here folks and I don’t know about you but for the first time, I feel very, very vulnerable. And I can’t talk about it with anyone in Mid Michigan, I mean, damn-”we can’t impeach, it’ll ruin our chances in ‘08″. It’s shameful of all of them to think ‘party’ at this stage of the game and scary because they’re likely the ones you’ll have to take up arms on first when they come to get your stash of food when shit hits the fan in our neck of the woods.
My word, Bill from Saginaw-I just re-read what you said. Is that really a viable course-if so, why are you the first one to put that out there? In all this time, I think this is the first time I’ve seen that and have to wonder where our ’scholars’ are on this….
Maiden,
Im not suggesting that we use the media. What Im saying is read my earlier posts. By bringing the measure to the floor again and again the media will not be able to ignore the issue forever and at some point the issue of the VPs actions will have to be discussed. Thats my point about the media, this is the perfect way to make them give the issue coverage.
As for Bill’s comment its of course viable but we still dont have any idea that Conyers or the like have any real interest in stirring the water. On the contrary we have not seen any real work being done by these folks that would give us the indication that they would be willing to take Bill’s suggested track. Again the only one that has been consistant is our boy K.
While our incompetant and petulant leaders play “gotcha” politics, people are dying and are being crippled and maimed each and every day. The economy is tanking, the world is warming, and Bush chuckles over WWIII. A pox on all of them!
So what do we do here in Mid Michigan Bill, write letters?
I was transferred to Michigan from Ohio 7 years ago-this is not a great spot to be the outsider in and organizing is hugely challenging. - but in my honest opinion, organizing with banners is too late and too dumbed down reactive; it’s fruitless at this point and my biggest fear is that we need to be armed and I don’t know how to shoot a gun!
Pelosi could refuse to accept the Presidency if Bush and Cheney were impeached. She could paraphrase Lyndon Johnson: “If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.” For her, impeachment is off the table because she is a contemptible coward.
cokids, Beck is one of the “kill em all” crowd and he is very dangerous. He and the others like him are getting very desperate as they see their Republican champions losing badly in ‘08. There was no war for 8 years under Clinton. How is a neocon supposed to react to that happening again? Beck, Hannity, and the others are going to do their worst to stop the Democrats. But their message is beginning to fall on deaf ears. We can only hope for another few years without a right wing warmonger. God knows Bush has killed enough.
“My final message to the many of you who are liberal progressives, who have begun to spit out the Democratic Kool-Aid, is this: We Ron Paul folks will warmly greet you whenever you finally get enough, and come to join our side.”
Paul,
I understand your frustration. There are many here who have spit out the Kool-Aid, but there are still many who haven’t. C’est la vie, my friend. We are all necessary, so I hope after a little R & R, you’ll be back.
I don’t have the answer other than to do what you can where you are.
Peace
AdeleTheCzech, Windward and others, the “self-serving” objection about Pelosi’s succession to the presidency is absurd. Please stop repeating this.
The key point to understand about our government is that the President has the authority to appoint a Vice President should the office become vacant for any reason (historical example: Ford’s appointment of Nelson Rockefeller).
If Cheney comes under a real threat of impeachment, we can be sure that he will resign– Cheney is not the kind of person who lets himself be subjected to the rule of law.
Whether he resigns first, or is impeached and removed, Bush will appoint a replacement such as Condi, Jebbie, Rudy, or Lynne Cheney. The last thing a republican administration will ever do voluntarily is to pass control to a democrat.
The succession rule that elevates the speaker of the house to the presidency would come into effect only if BOTH the President and Vice President become incapacitated AT THE SAME TIME UNEXPECTEDLY, e.g., a tragic accident. If either one goes first, then the other one will appoint a replacement.
Here is another story you won’y see on cnn.
If true, it could be the undoing of Bush & Company!
http://www.worldreports.org/news/92_u.s._state_departmen
I pray it is true!
thedeed, given that you wrote “There was no war for 8 years under Clinton”, it is apparent that you are not an Arab or a Slav. During Clinton’s reign, Iraq was bombed on a weekly basis by the US, and Kurdish-controlled Northern Iraq was bombed by Turkey (the US provided them with a “no fly” zone to use in their ehtnic campaign against Kurds). Clinton’s regime also was imposing brutal sanctions on Iraq that by 1996 (according to the UN) had taken the lives of 500,000 innocent Iraqis through disease, starvation, lack of medicine. When Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes asked secretary of state Albright whether the price of half a million lives was “worth it” to achieve US objectives– with Stahl noting that this is more people than died in Hiroshima– Albright answered “yes, we think the price is worth it”.
Later Clinton was itching to try out the “humanitarian war” theory on Yugoslavia, the same theory that Bush made famous in Iraq. For those of you who don’t know, Yugoslavia was the European equivalent of a cross between Venezuela and Cuba– the one being hated for its modest success in implementing liberal principles, and the second for its Soviet communist connections. The existence of Yugoslavia represented an insult to what Clinton referred to euphemistically as “the international community”, so it was targetted for destruction by NATO. A public relations campaign by the White House as well as by paid consultants of Albanian, Croatian, and Slovenian separatists was used to fire up the left in the US with claims of genocide that later proved to be false (sound familiar?).
So don’t console yourself with the belief that Democrats are different from Republicans.
Impeachment ends the war!
All of these people took an oath to Uphold and Defend the Constitution, looks to me like they should all be recalled/prosecuted for ignoring those promises.
Pelosi and other Dem. leaders have taken impeachment off the table for one, primary reason: they see the Republicans all but self-destructing w/o the Dems having to do anything, so why take a big chance opening up a a big can of worms like an impeachment trial when they can get what they want (i.e. a Dem. president, and more Dems in the House and Senate) for free.
Sure, not impeaching ignores justice, mocks accountability, and sets horrific precedents. But the Dems don’t care about those things any more than their Repub. twins; they care about getting in power. Period.
that’s right fresh1 - all this claim of lost innocence is sad so sad.
Ron Paul and Gravel have some good ideas but have no chance of being elected. Paul came off very poorly in his speech to Bernanke today and Gravel has too many strikes against him. The only chance for change is a solid support of the one man with the guts and brains for the job and stop wasting effort on impossible persons. If all of us get solidly behind Kucinich, that is the possible solution for change that we need to have or we can kiss this nation goodby and end up on the worlds scrap heap.
If impeachment was going to actually work, it should have been started right after the ‘06 elections when the GOP was still scared from their losses and there was enough time to get it done. Once again, the Dems blew it. The token gesture from Kucinich is nice, but far too little too late.
If the past 7 years have not been enough to get the politicians and public fired up against empire and fascism sufficient enough to stop it, I doubt anything ever will. Of course, it hasn’t been easy when you’ve had the juggernaut of the MSM running the propaganda, and there is the fear of assassination that is always held out towards the left as well, (ie: Wellstone, Callahan, anthrax to Daschel & Leahy, Ron Brown, JFK, MLK, RFK, many others).
It is our elected officials sworn duty to impeach when crimes have been committed.
Think impeachment is messy?
Try losing the Democracy.
Sincerely,
Susan Frishkorn, Pensacola
What “democracy”, Susan? There hasn’t been democracy in the US for decades, if really ever.
Wouldn’t it be a kick if the House Judiciary Committee agreed to impeachment hearings, and Cheney pulled “a Nixon” and just resigned? And then they went after Bush, and he resigned before any hearings got started?
Which congressperson’s turn is it to introduce a motion for impeachment tomorrow? Get that sign up sheet passed around, you good and honorable Congressfolks, daylight’s burnin’ here. Vite, vite!!
To the anonymous scribe from the Reformer,
you nailed it, Friend. We all know DKs ball
sack is larger than Cheney’s (humongous)
Dennis should copy and paste HR333 into each
day’s roster.
Future.me November 8th, 2007 1:59 pm,
I predicted 5 years ago that petrol
in the US will be 5 bucks a gallon
by the time Gdub leaves office…
(I friggin guarantee it here in Hawaii)
Personally I think the perpetrators
are all mad with power and wealth
blind to the future because that’s
how active users are. Completely
dysfunctional, insane and without any
human remorse.
It’s an Armageddon mindset, you know?
Anyway, thanks WhiteRose November 8th, 2007 1:36 pm
I acted and distributed your pertinent
info widely complete with pursuasive sentiment
to give to Champion Dennis Kucinich.
Seems to me that with 21 co sponsers to the Kucinich resolution that they could take turns in bringing to the floor impeachment of the vice.
Kucinich’s move is dead on arrival, this is more theater from Democrats. Kucinich is yet again fooling the base into thinking the Democratic Party is somewhat ’serious’ about the Constitution. Pelosi and Reid are in it together, while pretending to be against DK.
The only thing Democrats are really serious about is making the type of idiots who post at Democratic Underground believe they’re an opposition party.
I spent over 20 minutes with a surprisingly candid Conyers phone tallier yesterday and consensus he gave was that calling the HJC was a for the most part a waste of time. He said they have a tally sheet which they turn in but that the members of the committee don’t really pay any attention to it.
Basically he said a better way is to write your local representatives especially the newly elected DP members in border-line red states. After all it is our votes they want and the more they hear from their constituents the more comfortable they feel putting pressure on the committe and speaking out.
There is a site that will contact all your local reps and newspaper, plus the members of the committee automatically:
http://www.usalone.com/hres333.php
This might be the only chance we get to have any of these bastards held accountable, so we have to push hard.
I am not a lawyer. It seems to me, however, that it may behoove the American people to wait until the Republicans are out of office to prosecute them. Right now they have full use of all their illegally acquired executive privelege to thwart an investigation. Perhaps the Dems are banking on a Dem victory across the board in 2008 before they launch an effort to uncover teh truth.
” More important priorities like ending the war in Iraq.” This is like saying after a bank robbery, “we know where the hideout is, but we need to stay in the bank to find the missing cash.” If you want to end an illegal war, then you must interrupt the activities of the perpetrators. The leading House Dems are either cowards or collaborators.
By his behavior in this, Congressman Peter Welch has reveal as to where he stands on Mukasy and waterboarding, a bitter disappointment for those of us Vermonters who voted for for him and took some initial pride on his early stands in the House. But this amounts to the absence of major Democratic senators who ducked the issue and essentially became Republican voters for Mukasey, the stand-in for Gonzales. Very sad.
Mukasey
PAUL FROM TEXAS: Alas, do not leave us! This forum is enhanced from a diversified sector of viewpoints! This is not “we are authoritarians, central!”
REBEL FARMER: GREAT letter! Can others use it?
CO-KIDS: Good letter, too.
BILL FROM SAGINAW: Your strategy sounds right and solid to me. Now how to implement it?
Congressional Republicans unmask like illegal aliens looking for work visas… Republicans vote to impeach Cheney! Guess whose got your number now!?
Kucinich, the seeming noble, while traitorously employed, draws the dividing line for megacriminalities hacking facility… I think we’ll see much more murderous identity theft afflict this congress as seems happened to D-Congressman (atheist) Stark. His “criminal war” tirade followed by an apology in his identity by someone with bigger ears and a different hair color…
Their having lived so money hungry it almost seems right that they (congressional republicans) pay so big (with their lives) for finally getting around to opposing the mega-finance-criminals. Mega criminals that they (congressional republicans) have for so long now bolstered their (mega-criminals) strength.
Maybe everyone will sit down for some tea and the whole military industrial complex will be dissolved by the essence of creative thought shared by congress and the financial mega criminals.
I’m guessing though the financial mega criminals will just nuke billions, congressional republicans included, then enforce years of robot attack jet bombing on any who attempts to dwell above ground.
Hopefully they’ll be terminated by one of their chosen so the whole planet can get back around to living.
With regenerative medicine being what it is now though the presently dominant could be here psychologically demented as ever and physically well for tens of thousands of years…
So crazy as it is, we may be witnessing what is early in the earning of enormous reincarnative misery.
Is this place exciting, or what!?
My best guess is though, Utopia untethered from finance is just around the corner.
Get Direct Democracy
ni4d.org
Vote for national referendum.
Then demand elimination of finance and a move to calorie economics… Enforce with the weight of everyone exact and fair caloric remuneration for all work. Calorie economics = ( A Worker’s Calories Spent Producing Direct Democratically Approved Products = The workers ability to draw products from the economy ).
To Pelosi I say:
TAKE OUT THE TRASH (by They Might Be Giants)
Girl! Why not take out the trash?
And once you get him out, tell him not to come back again.
Girl! Put that cat in the bin!
After what he said, after everything he did.
You had him figured out a while ago
And I know it’s not exactly breaking news
But it’s all been a little like a trial for you
And a bunch more talking won’t make him true
Ah, c’mon, Girl! Why not take out the trash?
And once you get him out tell him not to come back again.
Girl! Why not give him the slip?
Get the crooked straight
Get the go-getter good and gone
Right! It’s just plain that he’s just making it up,
And he’s still got you coming back for more.
Why you never ever think of breaking it up,
Tell me, what bad deal’s gonna close that door?
Ah, c’mon, Girl! Why not take out the trash?
And once you get him out, tell him not to come back again.
Girl! Why not give him the slip?
Get the crooked straight
Get the go-getter good and gone
I’m not saying all the boys are the same
But some boys are the same and it’s Thursday now
I’m not saying all the boys are the same
But some boys are the same and it’s Thursday now
I’m not saying all the boys are the same
But some boys are the same and it’s Thursday now
Girl! Why not take out the trash?
And once you get him out, tell him not to come back again.
Girl! Put that cat in the bin!
After what he said, after everything he did.
Girl! Why not take out the trash?
Girl! Why not take out the trash?
Ah, come on, Girl! Why not take out the trash?
And once you get him out, tell him not to come back again.
Girl! Why not give him the slip?
Get the crooked straight
Get the go-getter good and gone
How did our nation get to the point where we were forced to choose between a dangerous deluded incompetent in the White House and a pack of craven cowardly incompetents in Congress? It is beginning to look like we deserve the utter disaster that is befalling us.
JohnR I loved your bank robbery analogy—so right on and sadly, exactly what seems to be going on as we sit here typing out our shared frustration.
The following is a press release from a Congresswoman in Florida.
Talk about the picture of a gutless, equivocating Democrat.
I don’t know who this bitch thinks she represents — but it sure as hell isn’t the American people.
Her gutlessness regarding Kucinich’s courageous action of impeachment against the international war criminal, and destoryer of American democracy, Dick Cheney, almost makes Pelosi look good by comparison.
Statement from Rep. Wasserman Schultz regarding H.Res. 333
November 6, 2007
(Washington, DC) — “Impeachment is the most severe action that the Congress can take against the Executive Branch and the consideration of articles of impeachment must not be taken lightly. The charges outlined in H.Res. 333 calling for the impeachment of Vice-President Cheney are serious and deserve more than an hour of debate without the ability to present evidence. As such, I have voted to refer this resolution to the House Judiciary Committee so that the charges outlined can be heard and debated.
“Today, Congress also overrode the President’s veto of the Water Resources Development Act, which among other things authorizes $2 billion for Everglades restoration as well as hurricane recovery and beach erosion funds. We are currently fighting to pass –against the President’s objections and his veto, legislation that would provide health insurance for an additional 3.5 million American children, 230,000 more insured children in Florida alone. Working to end the War in Iraq, expanding SCHIP, passing the first increase in the minimum wage in 10 years, passing the largest veterans health care increase in the 77-year history of the VA, and passing a roughly $1 billion increase in Everglades funding, all of these are issues that Congress has been addressing since the Democratic-led 110th Congress began in January.”
“Impeachment is a lengthy process which would divide Congress and this nation even more deeply than we are divided right now. Referring this resolution to the House Judiciary Committee is the constitutionally appropriate process that should be pursued.”
What gutless babble, delay, and crap!
Unfortunately, this gutless bitch is on the Judiciary Committee.
To listen to a litany of her excuses and whining about what the Democrats have supposedly done since Nov ‘06 and why impeachment is ‘off the table’ click on the audio of her being interviewed on this progressive radio show:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/House_Dem_defends_leadership_decision_to_1109.html
I tried to email her to ‘help or get out of the way’, but her Congressional office doesn’t allow any email outside her own district —– ie. she’s not interested in our views.
Can’t we get it? Why do we have to play this duopoly game, either the De Mock Rats or Repugnant Ones. Both of these corrupted parties are bought and paid for by the global corporations. So, why do the people continue to support them? Aren’t we free people, free to associate as we wish?
What we desperately need are two more major parties, one the left, one on the right, that are not corrupted by corporate monies. Why do we continue to argue over who is the best Dem or the least worst Repub when we could just as easily be talking about who is the best alternative candidate to vote for? The best Dem or Repub is part of a corrupted party is therefor not able to represent the people. The people need to have the courage to look elsewhere.
i emailed the author of the article in the LA Times about the impeachment vote, where Dennis Kucinich was described as ‘far left’. Turns out, wouldn’t you know, that those words were inserted by her editor.
Buster
Watch/hear
KUCINICH: Takes House Floor, Moves for Cheney Impeachment
27 min -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw
============
5 min CNN
Interview with DK:
http://www.youtube.com/v/qJK6ApCcKPo&rel=1
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