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TechnoratiAl Gore never quite closed the door on running for president again and his many loyalists are now pinning their hopes on Norway's Nobel committee, in the belief that the prize must be his, this year of all years.
The Nobel Prize will be announced on Friday in Oslo and for many, Mr Gore is head and shoulders above the other 181 candidates. The Nobel committee also has a reputation for making political choices. A peace prize may soon be added to the Emmy he won for his Current TV channel and the Oscar that was awarded last February for his call to arms on climate change, An Inconvenient Truth.
With little debate among candidates about America's role in causing global warming, the Draft Gore movement has been growing by leaps and bounds. It boasts a website that puts most official presidential candidates to shame. It has petitions to sign, a campaign song to sing, Draft Gore buttons, DVDs and ways to contact other Gore enthusiasts. Pre-written opinion articles are on hand on the site urging Mr Gore to run which his supporters are encouraged to plagiarise and send to their local newspaper.
The supporters' group has already gathered about 127,000 signatures this year - 10,000 of them in the last week of September alone - and is planning to take out full-page advert in The New York Times as an open letter urging Mr Gore to run. "We feel that if [Mr Gore] wins the Nobel Prize ... then he can't not run for president," Roy Gayhart, the man behind California's Draft Gore group, told Newsweek.
Mr Gore has said nothing to indicate he might run, and his Nashville headquarters is silent on the question. But people close to the former vice-president are convinced that he is looking for an opportunity to jump in the race as a candidate who really is prepared to bring about urgent change in the face of the looming disaster posed by global warming.
So far in the presidential campaign, candidates have run shy of embracing aggressive measures to deal with America's contribution to climate change. Hillary Clinton, the leading Democratic candidate, has the weakest environmental record of all. And Barack Obama took until this week to come up with proposals that won favour with environmentalists, after first backing a disastrous scheme to subsidise turning coal into petrol.
Mr Obama's plan is full of proposals drafted by climate scientists, including limits on carbon emissions, energy-efficiency targets and billions of dollars for energy research. There is not a word about turning coal into liquid.
The next few weeks are considered crucial for a Gore candidacy. A petition drive for New York State must gather 5,000 signatures between the end of October and early December if he is to be legally entitled to be on the ballot. In Michigan, Gore supporters must get more than 12,000 signatures, and a signed statement by Mr Gore himself to get on next year's primary ballot. His backers are hopeful, however, looking to a recent local TV poll that had 36 per cent of Democratic voters backing him, beating Mrs Clinton with 32 per cent.
But even those who expect him to get the Nobel Prize are unsure they can persuade Mr Gore to run. "I know it's still a real long shot that he'll run," said Fred Koed, of the Massachusetts Draft Gore group. "If I were in his shoes, after the devastating and painful loss in 2000, I'd really have to search inside myself to see if it was all worth doing again. He'll have to determine if this is right for him."
© 2007 The Independent
100 Comments so far
Show AllGore capitulated in the Senate to a fraudulent election result. Get real. If he were to run again and actually be sworn in, Gore will pander to the ones that paid him the most money just like the other establishment Dems.
Are the American people really that stupid? In the past noble prizes have been won by crypto Nazis and child molesters. How about if Gore is given a star on the Hollywood walk of fame? He would be unbeatable then.
ascott! I don't need a neck warmer I wear shorts for that, but you do need a clue to reality, and heres hoping you and your flakey berthen find just the thing your looking for, intelligence, a precious commodity that you can ill afford not to invest in, even though it may be at our expense.
Rebel I don't drink so the problem of comprehension is yours, leave the Bonita banana peels alone they are a cheap thrill and a cheap high.
sally..you are right, we probably agree on most everything...what a relief!!! Ever notice when the discussion pops up about ABORTION that the discussion never includes the hard facts of population as it is now, as it will be in the future. Back in the 1970's there was a lot of talk about zero population growth. That was an interesting concept, but it must be out of vogue now. The messages now are totally confusing....No SEX (abstinence only), no birth control, no abortion, no morning after pill. it must be very damaging to try to hold a teenager to a 'contract' not to have sex. When they do have sex, as they are going to do (The raging hormones are never factored into the abstinence equation) the guilt must be unbearable....totally different trolley, that one.....
celebrity,i have never understood how the catholics could be against abortion AND birth-control,it never made sense that you could realistically have it both ways....i have always wanted to say to the pope,"choose one,abortion OR birth control?"
"And speaking of Kucinich, he was rabidly anti-choice at one point in his political career."
He grew...people DO grow and change. As a sane human being on the issue, he favors pre-unwanted-pregnancy education and options. However, should someone screw up (no pun intended) he agrees on the right to choose. i don't know of any better way to see the issue than that.
It is certainly not a badge of honor to be pro abortion.
I have the same dilemma as Kucinich does on the issue of abortion; we are both vegans and have respect for all life including unborn fetuses.
But we progressives think it is more important to put that decision in the hands of the mother, in other words pro choice, a position Kucinich has understandably reluctantly adopted.
How tiresome Progressives can be when they don't weigh all the variables and miss the forest for the trees. Kucinich represents what could be as opposed to what is. And hope against hope isn't going to change that dynamic overnight when there is nothing to be hopeful about. You can not will it against these odds when Clinton is what we get. The Clintons represent capitulation. Gore represent a return to hope--if not because he himself became his own man and possibly a return to the road towards Kucinich rather than away from him--and even then it may be hoping for too much.
And speaking of Kucinich, he was rabidly anti-choice at one point in his political career. Okay, go for his throat (drums fingers to the sound of crickets)
Please.
If only for cause to have some hope again. There is so little to celebrate.
If Hillary Clinton gets the Democrat nomination, I am emigrating to Canada. I'm a feminst, but I loathe Hillary. Hillary has a strong "dislike" factor - I don't think she is electable if she runs against Guiliani or Mitt Romney.
So run Gore, please, pllllleeeeeassssee RUN! None of the other Democrat candidates are serious about global warming - none of them served in the military and I don't hear any cogent exit plan out of Iraq from Hillary, Obama and Edwards.
I hope he gets the prize just to piss off Bu$h the inferior and Shotgun Dick. As for president he would as good or better than all but Gravel and Kucinich.
nightslider
Could you re-post that rant in something approaching intelligible English?
A Gore candidacy, what a joke. Though it would be worth it just to see Hitlery's face when he announced it.
I wouldn't vote for a Republican or their Democratic clones even if someone put a gun to my head. But I would consider Gore if he renounced the corrupt Democratic Party and ran as a Green or Independent. Never, never as a Democrat.
Need another drink slider?
Meanwhile, as the current administration tries to whip up a frenzy of fear and hate toward Iran as a pretext for yet another disastrous, illegal, and unethical military adventure in the Middle East, Mr. Peace Prize In Waiting sits on his hands while most of his fellow Democrats in positions of authority refuse to take a firm stand against the next war or those already underway. (Let us not forget that this is the same Al Gore who, when last he ran for president, harshly criticized the former Bush administration for making some weak effort to put some conditions on military aid to Israel--something Gore promised an AIPAC audience he would never do.) And, despite this lack of credible leadership on an issue that is a grave threat to peace, let alone the well being of several countries including Al's own, some deal may be in the works to hand him the Peace Prize. And just as disturbing, in my opinion, millions of minions are no better able to see that Gore is a war happy menace than are the 30% or so of people who continue to back Bush no matter how badly he screws up. . . .
Also, get another team, a Green Team, to handle your candidacy.
retive read my first post, your one of the bi-vlves that needs a stabilizer for a loose valve,truly a loopy
P.S ST Claires has as much credibility as wikipedia.
nuff said.
Run Al. But this time get Jimmy Carter to oversee the election.
some of you progressive's/ sound like a bi-valve suffering from a extreme case of dirrhoea of the mollusk, if you dont think that makes any sense then your posts are just as bad, what if ????????? Big Al decides kunich is a flake! also decides to select someone like Biden, and or Richardson, and or Dodd,poor kunich delegated to the cellar again where he belongs.
And what happens if big Al says fuck no, you all start wetting your panties and start calling him a traitor, and from the sucking SOB's that voted for Ralph,the repukeagain shill,you hybird democrats would be on par.
Your to stupid to sweat un-supervised, so what makes you think he would entertain listening to anything you suggest?
christ halve of you are so loopy that a mirror rejects even reflecting your scrambled image.
grow up.
nic hybrids
A half truth is a whole lie.
so here is my tip in, my contribution.
atruepatriot said:
you bet your ass Kucinich is the perfect candidate. And the primary is not the time to bet on who, thanks to the corporate media, is going to be the nominee. The primary is the time to EFFECT the outcome by voting for the best leader. And that, my friend, is Kucinich. Watch the recent Judy Woodruff/ Jim Leher interview if you don't believe me.
My response:
Yes, Yes, Yes.
Stop listening to the media as if it were free or "liberal." Coax more of your friends and coworkers to include alternative media sources. Kucinich or even Robert Kennedy Jr. need to make their voices heard through the primary season.
The question needs to be asked by us over and over again, in all variations, is how do we effect change? We must redirect our efforts and resources. Can we get some mass movement to open up the media to Kucinich? How can we get the media to ask, "What is Kucinich's view on that?" "How do you distinguish yourself from Kucinich?" We need solutions to this! I'm sending email suggesting readings to all of my friends. Then I am going to work on my groups. What else?
"LOL.. good grief. Kissinger did.
"Kissinger , the notorious war criminal"
I'm with whitewatersally and rebelnow on this one. The Goreacle will not save us. As much as I'd like to see some one come in from the wings to "kick Hillary Clinton's ass right down the road where it belongs" Al Gore is a phony, he is the ruling elite, and he will not save us from the coming fascist new world order. I gotta go read that article on counter punch now, thanks rebelnow!
annabelle: "I definitely have the need for a HERO....Back to basics and right now that person in Dennis K. However, the MSM is going to eliminate him totally by telling us over and over that he is unelectsble."
PLEASE don't give up hope, Annabelle. Dennis won't. We have to keep getting his name out there no matter the nay-saying of the MSM or our own alleged Progressives who seem to always find SOMETHING negative to throw in after saying how much they agree with him. "I AM ELECTABLE IF YOU WILL JUST VOTE FOR ME!"...Dennis Kucinich
Unless there is election reform, that prevents the voter fraud and manipulation that has stolen the last two elections for Bush, Gore cannot win.
Only with paper ballots and close election scrutinity can this be possible. Congress must also pass a bill prohibiting this Supreme Court from again selecting the president.
Al already won the election once
he's not going to this time - its too late, because
he'd have to run against hillary
who is practically a lock for the democratic nomination,
it would split the party too hard at the wrong time
not that i dont want him to run, god knows i do, but he knows now's not the time
now 2012/2016.........
KUCINICH/OBAMA
FOR A BETTER AMERICA
i know,annabelle...me too..you probably would not have wanted to write to me,those nice words..if you had seen my other post that just went up..but i want you to know that regardless..i am on our side and i am on your side...and i am lost and horrified by what's been going on...yours,sally
Yins are all out of control. I love it. lol!!!
I definitely have the need for a HERO. I need someone to come into the life of this country and banish all of the evil that has seeped into every nook and cranny, to offer common sense, sensibility, reason and reasonable thinking. Back to basics and right now that person in Dennis K. However, the MSM is going to eliminate him totally by telling us over and over that he is unelectsble. He is the one candidate who actually makes sense. He is not good for the corporate complex that runs this country. They need a candidate who will continue their status quo. I would hope that there are others also in need of a HERO to put this country back on track.
whitewatersally...Thanks for the positive words. Well taken.
the plans for the new world order were not made yesterday.they were laid out generations,ago.just as bush new all the right things to do and say to rope in the right..so does algore know all the things he needed to do and say to rope in the left.like the granddad of all chess games,they have been patiently working to get their people into the leadership positions all around the globe.they are in control of nearly every country.when pelosi would not do the will of the people,i knew it was because,she is one of them.the speech that put her over the top with the people of california,was stolen from me..it was a letter i had written her entitled "the emperor has no clothes"which i heard her woodenly recite verbatim,as if it were her own.i know this sounds like science fiction or a video game.....but it is real...very scary...VERY REAL !!!...I have done what i can to warn you,but i know i have exhausted the moment... peace all,sally (the zappacrat)p.s. i hope i am wrong and you are all right !!and i mean that sincerely from the bottom of my heart !!algore wanting to war with the middle east is not some passing minor imperfection,it is a lifelong mission and mindset.
A Gore candidacy?
Please God, no.
After Al bungled the 2000 election, and gutlessly handed the country to the Bush gang, how could any sane person want him to run again?
I recall hearing him on Keith Olbermann's program a couple of months ago. Al was nearly incoherent. His attempts to avoid giving offense, to avoid saying anything that might be used against him someday, was utterly pitiful.
Big AL we have missed you, I was literally shattered after the Supremes decided to declare Bush the winner and deprived us of the enormous possibilities a Gore Presidency might have given us.
I love many things about Gore but in retrospect he did not have a decisive overwhelming victory in the 2000 election because of several important key factors.
Most important of all as zoya has pointed out was his attempt to distance himself from Clinton and his long embarrassing sex scandal by choosing as his running mate Bills most vocal self righteous, sanctimonious critic, Israels own Senator Lieberman.
But the most important element to his defeat was his unwillingness to make an attempt to win an endorsement from the Green Party and to bring Ralph Nader on board to join his campaign.
Gore was supposed to be the environmental president how could he possibly ignore the philosophy of the Green Party or the Peoples advocate Nader??
In Florida Nader garnered over ninety thousand votes, had Gore embraced him instead of ignoring him I think Big Al would have and should have gotten those Green Party votes, certainly those 90K environmentalists would not have cast a vote for Bush.
WHY WOULD YOU ALL WANT TO DO SUCH A TERRIBLE THING TO KUCINICH ?SADDLE HIM WITH AN OVERLORD SUCH AS GORE ?WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE REALLY RUNNING THINGS,DENNIS OR AL ?i will go way out on a limb and say kucinich would not be happy with that notion.....fooled once-fooled twice-big bummer.....i also believe that if algore enters the race,he will win...because of silly starstruck liberals that buy his globalwarming showfortheleft,the new world order is jumping for joy right at this very moment,cause they know now, that their best laid plans,work every time.
Al Gore for President! Bill Richardson for Vice-President!
I hope Gore does win the Nobel Peace prize -- he deserves it for raising the profile of Global Warming across the United States, to the extent that BushCo are now mealymouth muttering "Well yeah, maybe," and trying to jump on the bio-fuel train...
Gore is no johnny-come-lately to Environmental issues, he's been engaged since he was in college.
I think Bill Richardson brings some real strengths to a Gore ticket: Southwestern USA, Hispanic, international experience especially in regard to North Korea, opposed to the occupation of Iraq by the US for the next 50 years.
Neither is perfect, I know I'd quarrel on a number of specific issues, but I think both have enough integrity to want to make a difference in the White House and not just be beholden to the next election cycle.
I hope that Gore runs, but I hope that he wears a flak jacket.
Even if Gore wins, the Enemy still has its methods: They'll just arrange another Pinochet, 9/11-type "SHOCK" to force AL to comply, like the South Koreans, the Thais, Menem in Argentina, Yeltsin in Russia, etc., etc.
They'll "shock" the democray into submission.
Read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine".
Folks, Ronald Reagan did not win a Nobel Peace Prize. LOL.. good grief. Kissinger did. Jimmy Carter did. Ronald Reagan never did.
I doubt very much Gore will run. If he did I am certain he would never choose Lieberman again. For those who say they would not vote for him unless he apologized for choosing Lieberman, I say get real. He has nothing to apologize for. So what, if it boils down to a race between him and Mitt Romney you'd vote for Romney because Gore didn't apologize for making a decision that was his to make? Or you just wouldn't vote at all and thereby help a Bush clone make it back in?
I doubt he will run, but I hope he does. It would energize me more than anything has in years... And if he chose Kucinich as a running mate, I'd be overwhelmed with joy..
Baffled by the repeat denouncing of Al Gore for "selecting" Zionist hawk idiot Lieberman as running mate in 2000, answer me: WHO KNEW what he was like then? I don't recall any discussions of Joe's rabid Israel-pro-war stances at that time. I wonder if Gore knew about it, either.
Leave off, would ya, Cassandra?
I love Dennis Kucinich, but he hasn't a PRAYER with the mainstream.
Who has the strength and purpose to counter whatever it is that the Repugs have planned for this election (not revealed yet, of course)?
Nobody but Gore....NOBODY.
Sorry I think a comma unintentionally was in the link. Try this, it's a good read.
www.counterpunch.org/stclair03032007.html
I've skimmed through the article in Counterpunch by Jeffrey St.Clair.
Those of us who support Al Gore do not look on him as infallible or saintly. The man may well have made dubious moves in the past - who hasn't ? In politics and elsewhere? I've noticed other dedicated environmentalists having pot shots at Gore. I suspect there's a fair amount of jealousy going on.
This is what I ask myself: without Al Gore's input, and his film "Inconvenient Truth" where would the USA stand now on the climate change question?
I came to live here 3 years ago, from Britain, and was apalled at the ignorance about this subject. Al Gore has changed the scene completely. Say what you like about his past record - I am going by what I see with my own eyes. I'd take him, along with with any of his so-called faults, over any other candidate except Kucinich.
It is said that in September 1945, when the Second World War was over, newspaper reporters wanted to know the reaction of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (Guru Dev). Allegedly he gave them the following statement, parts of which match other published quotations of Guru Dev:-
'Real victory is that, after which there can never be a reverse. Nobody can call himself a victor forever merely by crushing an external foe, because such foes can spring up again. A real victory is achieved by bringing under control the internal foes. A check over the internal enemies is therefore the only way of conquering the external enemies forever, because we should bear in mind that it is our own internal enemies which create the external enemies.
These inner enemies are ambition, anger, greed, false attachment, vanity and jealousy. It is this hexagon sitting inside us which makes a cat's paw (duping) of anything in the outer world in order to create enemies for us. Therefore if anybody wants to enjoy peace and happiness through victory over all enemies, then he should raid the very source of all physical enemies - the subtle hexagon living in us. Destruction of enemies by root is not possible without breaking up this hexagon (ambition, anger, greed, false attachment, vanity and jealousy). This is axiomatic.
It is a fact established by practical experience that anyone who has conquered these subtle inner enemies, has broken up the central source of all external enemies. Therefore, all enemies are nipped in the bud. Then he has no enemies left to be defeated. It is only such a victor who can be called a real victor. Then the gates of true and lasting peace and happiness are opened for him.
For a nation which desires to be completely free from enemies and to build a world of peace and happiness, it is necessary to have such men at the helm of its affairs who have conquered their inner hexagon. Otherwise they would destroy themselves along with many others. The history of the last several centuries shows that the rulers of powerful nations have given a bloodbath to the world under the influence of their hexagon. This is brutish. T hose who carry the burden of guiding a nation should particularly act with insight. It is no greatness or humanism to be carried away by one's hexagon and spread a wave of suffering over the earth.
After all, how long can we go on destroying the external enemies? As soon as we get rid of one, another one is ready to engage us. In this way we not only remain ourselves perpetually disturbed, but we also keep a cold war going on which threatens the peace and happiness of the whole of mankind all the time. This is certainly neither a sign of any victory nor of the suppression of any enemies. Hence it is most essential that people who rule nations should be those who have conquered their inner hexagon. It is these really victorious leaders who can successfully guide the societies, the nations and the world on to the path of lasting peace and happiness.
It is not too difficult to win over the hexagon. But people take it to be impossible without giving thought. Most of them hold the belief that only a perfect saint who has renounced all worldly concerns can break up the inner hexagon. This belief is based on complete ignorance. A renouncer renounces the very cause of the hexagon, so in his case the question of conquering the hexagon does not arise at all. A victor over the hexagon is one who maintains his worldly attitudes but does not allow himself to be subordinated by them. Let the enemy have an occasion to strike, but let him find that he cannot do so because he finds you too strong for it. Only then can he be treated as defeated. Mere engagement in bona fide worldly activities is no hindrance in keeping the inner hexagon in a state of subjugation.
For liquidisation of the subtle cell of inner enemies, it is not necessary to make warlike preparations over a number of years and then start a slaughter which keeps the world hanging between life and death. The only thing necessary for this is to become unbiased and to act with imagination.
To be unbiased is to look correctly. A person who sees things as they are is called an unbiased person. There is no difference between what a thing is and how he sees it. His outlook is completely balanced. His appreciation of a thing is correct - in other words, he never misunderstands. If the world is unreal, he does not give it any reality. If Brahman is real, he takes it as real. When one is convinced of the unreality of the world and the perpetuity of the Atman, then he becomes unbiased.. Then he sees things in their true shape.
By saying that the world is unreal, we mean that it can exist as it looks only for the time being, and that it would look something different hereafter. Everybody is actually seeing that everything in the world perishes and that we shall have to miss it one day - the smallest and the biggest - all are destined to change. Everyone sees clearly how many go on being born and how many go on dying constantly before our eyes. This is what we call th e transitoriness of the world. We see all this going on but we do not think over it.
One who has set in his heart the concept of the transitoriness of the world through a process of reasoning and deep thought, is the person competent to win over the inner hexagon. Because, one who is convinced of the transitoriness of the entire world complex cannot be susceptible to greed or attachment to anything, for he knows that the object of his greed or attachment today will be something different tomorrow. Conscious of this, disappointment, desires and attachments do not germinate in his mind. Nay, their very seed is destroyed. Then jealousy also is gone. He is no longer vain about his greatness, learning or wealth. When greed, attachment, vanity and jealousy disappear, there is no cause left for anger and anger goes away automatically. His desires recede and turn to God, with the result that now his worldly actions are dictated by a sense of duty rather than by passion. His behaviour automatically becomes proper and he lives in the world without being affected by it, just as a lotus leaf lives in water without getting wet. Such a man has no external enemies left, and his sameness rules over the whole Nature. None is capable of disturbing his kingdom of peace. It is such a person who is "samadarshii" (impartial, dispassionate) and a great victor, who can carry the world towards the goal of lasting peace and happiness.
Therefore, a victory over the inner hexagon is the highest form of victory, and it is to achieving this great victory that man should direct his efforts.'
"Ronald Reagan won the Nobel Peace prize"??????? What are you, some kind of Nazi spammer? Get real.
President Gore....Vice President Kucinich
Happy, Happy, Happy.
whitewatersally ... just go to the counterpunch site and hit the search button. type in 'al gore hypocrite,' and it will come up.
meg,i would like to read it.i went to counterpunch but did not know how or where to find it.how did you do it ?
rebelnow -- great article. i did have to go to counterpunch to pull it up. worth it.
If hitting the link doesn't work, try typing in the address, it should work.
Best to think twice about Gore.
read www.counterpunch.org/stclair03032007.html, Jeffry St Clair's article called "Al Gore, The Origins of a Hypocrite".
If y'all who are trumpeting for Al Gore had as much faith in yourselves as you do in him, things may actually change. Think 9/11 is an inside job? The whole thing is an inside job.
The reason I support Al Gore is that he has grown both as a human being and as a political figure. He has changed over time in some ways and kept to his own counsel in others which says a lot about the man's core values.
With respect to his affiliation with Joe Lieberman, quite frankly I wonder if the latter had a stroke or Alzheimer's because he is very different today from a decade ago.
Anyhow, GO GORE GO!!
OMG, what an awful idea. Gore lost 2000 because was such a loser and terrible campaigner. I know Gore has been Hollywoodized, but still. What an awful idea. Good idea if you want the GOP again.
Gore was VP for 8 years. Name one thing he did then -- when he actually had some influence -- that could even remotely be called progressive. Oh, and, auctioning off the Lincoln Room to the highest bidder doesn't count.
annabelle,i understand your need for a 'hero'.believe it or not,you and i are on the same side,the side of compassion for people,the earth and all living things..but i did not'spit'that out..it is hard earned knowledge.peace.....
Whitewatersally...spend as many words saying something positive about someone, anyone, as the negative things you spit out about Al Gore....Thanks.
annebell,it is not 'hate' rhetoric..it is just the truth..it is not my truth,it is anybody's truth and is all there for anyone who cares to find out,for themselves.americans have always been 'suckers' for "celebrities'it didnt take a karl rove to figure that one out.
Why all of the nasty Hate Gore rhetoric? If you don't like him, Don't Vote for him, but if he is drafted and gets on the ballot, then live with it. There are a large number of folks who still feel that he does have a very good chance and I am positive that if he had been 'CHOSEN' instead of Bush that we would not be in the quagmire that we call 'THE war on terror.' Put Gore with Kucinich and put some diplomacy back into foreign relations. At least they can walk the walk when talking the talk. Sometime in the near future we have to decide we want some folks running this country who know how to lay down plans for a sustainable planet. Blowing it to smithereens is not the answer. Somehow in the near future we are going to have to figure out a way to SHARE
the resources that are left on this planet and not bully every country out of what is rightfully theirs. It is time for us to grow up, act like adults and learn to get along with the rest of the world. It is going to take DIPLOMACY which we ain't got now!
AL: I have already sent you my 2 cents asking you to run.
The world needs you!
I know that you are not perfect, but you are still head & shoulder above the rest of the frontrunners.
Please run Al!
No trust in this individual whatsoever. I'll give him credit for 2 things: giving up easy and knowing how to make himself look as if he's actually doing something.
Just take a minute to imagine living in a society where the leader would be a force toward solving the most pressing issues for all peoples. Not lying, whining or war mongering rather vitalizing human energy in a positive way.
I can barely make my mind go there.
Could Gore do it? My first reaction to his candidacy is YES but what is this based upon? Is it just because every other candidate is uninspiring or is Gore truly the best?
liberalw/attitude..you certainly live up to your name !in LITHUANIA THEY TORE DOWN THE STATUE OF LENIN AND REPLACED IT WITH ZAPPA !apparently they read,in lithuania.
Al Gore run for President? What, so he can appoint uberZionist Liberman as his running mate and allow the Republicans to steal another election giving us even more political repression? Yeah, right Al.
frank zappa? okay well thats enough for me......another day another topic....hurry
hazmat and whitewatersally are on the money.
Gore has been saying all the right things in recent years but I don't trust him. Remember Elian Gonzalez? Remember cozying up to Israel so much that it even embarrassed Ed Koch? Remember VP candidate Lieberman? Many thought that Gore would have moved more quickly against Iraq than Bush did had Gore been president.
I VOTED FOR ALGORE AS 'THE LESSER OF THE EVILS'IN 2000,I WAS VERY DEPRESSED,when the presidency was stolen.i used to think of nadar as the spoiler,but now i realize he was right-there is no difference between the two.i had forgotten my own history..when frank zappa ran for president,al gore went after him and other musicians over their right to free speech...al gore even proposed an overhaul of our ammendment,algore wanted censorship,but it was not zappa's music,gore was trying to silence,it was zappa's political genius..zappa was a political genius,it rivaled even his musical ability.there used to be a website that contained ALL of zappa's political writings,but i can no longer find it in complete form.i have also been an ear-witness to al gore's many public statements over the years concerning his desire for war in the middle east.and algore's corporate ventures and overconsumption of resources is public record.i will no longer vote for the lesser of evils,because he is NOT the lesser evil..JUST AS BUSH WAS CREATED TO FOOL THE RIGHT..SO ALGORE IS CREATED TO FOOL THE LEFT !!and once both the right and left are fooled,well then it will come to pass and be said that ALL were fooled and that will be the judgement.why,do you think that all you'progressives'are better than the other side..i hope you are not so blinded that once again,we will have to find out..that we are no better........
Even if he runs, and wins most of the votes - the question of whether or not he becomes president would be up to the ruling elite - the same bastards who chose Bush over Gore & Kerry, contrary to the will of the people.
American elections are theatre - what the people think they are seeing is NOT what is happening.
and another thing, i know Ron Paul is the flavor of the month, but watch out for a wolf in wool, hes a true libertarian, which means he will eliminate social security, he believes in no social programs whatsoever.....
to siouxrose, go to draft al gore dot com to donate or sign any petitions.
as for some of you running down al gore i wonder where you get some of your disinformation, rush limbaugh or bill oreilly?
it would be fantastic if he did run, but i think this presidency has already been bought and paid for so i doubt he'll run, anymore than he stood up to the murder threatening bush crime family when he was instructed to have the senate stand down and not sponsor a congressman to protest the 2000 election.
this whole deal has been scripted down to the
color of their suits.
On a scale of 1-10, I rate Kucinich a 9, Dubya gets a 1 (Karl Rove really deserves the point for mass hookwinking), most of the other Republican 2008 hopefuls get a zero (the best they can get for trying to imitate Dubya),Clinton genrously gets a 2, most of the other Democratic Party 2008 hopefuls get 2 to 4 points, Ron Paul gets a 4, Richardson and Gore get a rating of 5.
Remember Jesse Ventura, the former boxer who ran for governor in Minnesota? People said he didn't have a chance. People prophesied that the Independent Party didn't have the ghost of a chance. Well, as an Independent, he won! and was an unexcelled governor! What does that tell you, Friends?
Dream on.
I agree with celebrity - Gore/Kucinich would be my ideal.
I can't see how Al Gore can NOT run in view of the fact that none of the current candidates is putting climate change very high on their lists of priorities.
He is passionate and certain about the dangers we face, how could he possibly let a chance of presidency pass without at least trying. I feel sure he'd get the nomination and will the election if he did run.
People say that he'd probably get the job of Climate Czar, or some such title, in the administration of whoever wins the election - but that position would have limited power - all proposals would surely be liable to the president's veto? It's not enough.
Please Mr Gore, if you love this planet - please run !!
re zoya 2:03pm
"...sound and fury, signifying nothing."
re simonhhh 2:16pm
i don't expect to find many water-walkers seeking elective office, but authenticity, as demonstrated by kucinich, would be a welcome change. gore doesn't belong in the same sentence, much less on the same ticket.
I feel as if we, the liberal/progressive wing of the US, have been repeatedly screwed so many times in the last 40 years, we're almost afraid to believe in such a thing. And when the possibility appears, we also necessarily look at the mixed track record of someone who, like every other politician, seems to be of the "bought-and-sold" variety.
What we need to keep in mind is that Al Gore, with all his faults, has spoken truth to power like no other prominent national politician. And he has done so throughout the entire reign of the Bush Administration. In fact, only the scars from the 2000 electoral battle seem likely to discourage him from throwing his hat back in the ring.
We need a true leader. Gore might be flawed, but I'm convinced that he's the absolute best we've got!
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DONT GET YOUR HOPES UP.AL GORE IS AN AVATAR.IN 1992,algore admonished bush41,for not going after saddam,algore is a LONGTIME advocate in favor of war with the middle east.algore led the charge to revoke our first ammendment rights of free speech,favoring censorship of free speech.algore used enough electricity to light up a small country,UNTIL HE WAS CAUGHT.algore,for all of his adult life has added to his considerable fortune,thru excavations of the earth's resources.algore is quite aware of the covert'experiments'that have been going on in the arctic region for some time..radiation and electromagnetics,could well be behind the acceleration of the catastrophe in the arctic....no one person in this whole world has been made richer by global warming than algore.algore has been wrangling for war in the middle-east for decades.dont be fooled again,americaal gore is the corporate world's hero and SECRET WEAPON !!algore is planted in the 'progressive world'by large corporate interests,to trip you up and fool all of you,again.it is all a show........do your homework..
no difference in policy. after all, "regime change" was the US's official policy on Iraq, thanks to the law Clinton signed in 1998. Clinton/Gore did more to deregulate the media and accelerate concentration of the airwaves and newspapers than Reagan/Bush did. Clinton ended welfare--something Republicans have been salivating over since it was started in the 30's. Clinton led more military interventions around the world in his 8 years than Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush Sr. combined. It's useless to speculate about what Gore would have done after 9/11, but judging from the Democrats in Congress it's a safe bet that the US would be using its "war on terror" bullshit to justify military attacks against nations that refuse to bend to our will.
I believe Gore will win the presidency if he enters.
PLEASE DO SO President Gore!
Anybody still think there was no difference between Gush and Bore in 2000?
No matter. It's too late. Gore isn't going to be president.
And no, he doesn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for giving lectures and making a movie about global warming.
Al Gore would kick Hillary Clinton's ass right down the road where it belongs....I agree with
celebrity 10/10/07 12:28 pm
GORE + KUCINICH = A FREE, SANE, AND (PEACEFULLY) POWERFUL AMERICA FOR SIXTEEN YEARS!
Hamzat: You are never going to get a SAINT that 'walks on water' running as President; lets face it!!! Al is the next best thing!
WTF: hardly. *Reagan* won the nobel peace prize--and his IQ was on par with W. And though "god" wasn't giving him instructions, the stars were (as his astrologer can attest).
Having a Nobel Prize winner lead the USA? Now THAT would be a change from a fundamentalist redneck with an IQ of 80 who talks to himself.
an Al Gore candidacy would be a disaster. Progressives: abandon your false illusions in the Democratic party. You asked them to stop the war--they funded it. You asked them to halt the erosion of our civil liberties--they approved warrantless wiretaps. They are the US's second party of capital. They approve of using the US's military and economic power around the globe in order to maintain our hegemony. They are not our party--they only seek to delude us into believing so because they need our votes.
Until we abandon these corporate jackals and learn to rely on ourselves and our own grassroots organizing we will never win anything we deserve.
The Democrats *oppose* progress. The only reason they have a reputation for progress is because of the mass social movements in the 30's, 60's and 70's that *pushed* them into granting some reforms. Only a new mass movement can force them (or the Republicans) to grant new reforms.
entertaining hopes of an Al Gore candidacy will only divert energy and resources from building a real movement for change.
"and will the distinguished senator from likud again be his running mate? until gore apologizes, at least to the florida voters whose fight to be reenfranchised he torpedoed, his sincerity is as suspect as his me-too environmentalism."
hamzat, get your head out of your american ass.
Why would a Nobel Prize help? The people who love Al would already be voting for him, and the people who hate Al wouldn't be swayed. A Prize wouldn't change that.
The Nobel prize has always been a farce.
I am glad it gave one to Kissinger so as to completely debase it. Its galling enough to see vivisectionists getting the prize every year in medicine. But that's in keeping with the spirit of a man who invented dynamite--after a false obituary appeared he decided to start the prize so he could have a different legacy.
Gore has to remake himself again! He has to toughen up! Don't give up any challenges of disputed votes! Don't pick Lieberman again as VP! Come out unambiguously to get out of Iraq! Promise not to bomb Iran! Have universal health care, not run by insurance companies! Restore habeas corpus across the board. Keep Bill Clinton in retirement. Then you will have my support.
Reagan was given a peace prize as well. For all Gore has done to highlight the peril of global warming, he has done next-to-nothing to stop it. Not only did he squander opportunities to fight *for* the environment as VP, he went back on numerous campaign promises. He will never lead a fight against climate change because it would mean hitting capitalists in their pocketbooks--something he and all Democrats are loathe to do.
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair03032007.html
And once Gore runs and starts raising huge amounts of cash, will he be the same Al Gore that was drafted to run?
please remember that henry kissinger also won a nobel peace prize (tom lehrer said that was the day satire died).
Okay a really big change from the presidential caliber we are presently used to.
A nobel prize winner as president? A slight change from the presidential caliber we are presently used to.
and will the distinguished senator from likud again be his running mate? until gore apologizes, at least to the florida voters whose fight to be reenfranchised he torpedoed, his sincerity is as suspect as his me-too environmentalism.
4 points:
1. Will the real 2000 presidential winner please stand up and be counted. Let's turn back the tide and usher in a do-over... we can't bring back those that died in Iraq & Afghanistan, but we perhaps can SAVE a lot more lives.
2. HOW do we donate money to that NY Times ad. I would gladly help with that!
3. Given that the world IS watching, I can't imagine the Nobel Prize NOT going to Gore... as he is not only America's hope (flawed that he may be), but the world's!
4. Any male that serves the God-dess by respecting nature over capitalist exploitation run amok will have the assistance of heavenly forces.
Unless he promises to end the war, establish universal health care, and sign the kyoto treaty in a very unabiguous manner, he will not be getting my vote.
LOL. Al Gore to the rescue!
AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL AL A LA A ALALA A AL A ALALA ALAA ALAL ALA LALALALALALALALAL wE NEED YOU. Al Gore would level the playing field. Like a hurricane come through. The other fools would be ouot of business in a heartbeat. Al is the only viable candidate (oops, I mean, would be the only viable candidate).
I'd be delighted to see Al Gore as President. But, to win, he must only run as a Democrat, not as a fracturing Independent. And, Nobel prize or not, he must hit the ground with a full slate of appealing policy positions that make sense on the war, security, health care, taxes, deficits, Social Security, and guns. (Remember, Al got beat last time not in Florida, but in the three states he lost, (including his own Tennessee) just for talking too much about gun control. Global warming is important for sure, but having Al's main platform be hog-tying corporations on emissions in America, while China and India do as they please, is a sure recipe for losing. Giuliani would walk all over that, and we citizens would, of course, lose again.
GORE + KUCINICH = A FREE, SANE, AND (PEACEFULLY) POWERFUL
AMERICA FOR SIXTEEN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW! Finally, some good news! He is the only person that I can think of who can really turn this country around!!! PLEASE DO IT, AL! WE NEED YOU!
GO AL GO! What a tremendous thing his candidacy (and I think presidency) would be in about 10 ways at once---not least, showing that it is indeed OK to think and speak and act like a world-class adult with all the mental lights on. Hillary would shrink before our eyes...
maxhemust,dont be naive..gore IS the ruling elite,and so is kerry...they do not represent change,they have always been on the side of the nefarious and the nabob.