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Beginning with Occupy Wall Street in September 2011, a protest movement spread across the United States to 70 major cities and hundreds of other communities. Similar actions emerged in scores of other nations.
For the first two weeks, the corporate-owned mainstream media along with NPR did what they usually do with progressive protests: they ignored them. These were the same media that had given the Tea Party supporters saturation coverage for weeks on end, ordaining them “a major political force.”
The most common and effective mode of news repression is omission. By saying nothing or next to nothing about dissenting events, movements, candidates, or incidents, the media consign them to oblivion. When the Occupy movement spread across the country and could no longer be ignored, the media moved to the second manipulative method: trivialization and marginalization.
So we heard that the protestors were unclear about what they were protesting and they were “far removed from the mainstream.” Media cameras focused on the clown who danced on Wall Street in full-blown circus costume, and the youths who pounded bongo drums: “a carnival atmosphere” “youngsters out on a spree,” with “no connection to the millions of middle Americans” who supposedly watched with puzzlement and alarm.
Such coverage, again, was in sharp contrast to the respectful reportage accorded the Tea Party. House Majority Leader, the reactionary Republican Eric Cantor, described the Occupy movement as “growing mobs.” This is the same Cantor who hailed the Tea Party as an unexcelled affirmation of democracy.
The big November 2 demonstration in Oakland that succeeded in closing the port was reported by many media outlets, almost all of whom focused on the violence against property committed by a few small groups. Many of those perpetrators were appearing for the first time at the Oakland site. Some were suspected of being undercover police provocateurs. Their actions seemed timed to overshadow the successful shutdown of the nation’s fourth largest port.
Time and again, the media made the protestors the issue rather than the things they were protesting. The occupiers were falsely described as hippie holdovers and mindless youthful activists. In fact, there was a wide range of ages, socio-ethnic backgrounds, and lifestyles, from homeless to well-paid professionals, along with substantial numbers of labor union members. Far from being a jumble of confused loudmouths prone to violence, they held general assemblies, organized themselves into committees, and systematically took care of encampment questions, food, security, and sanitation.
Occupy Walnut CreekOne unnoticed community protest was Occupy Walnut Creek. For those who don’t know, Walnut Creek is a comfortable conservative suburb in northern California (with no known record of revolutionary insurrections). Only one local TV station gave Occupy Walnut Creek brief attention, noting that about 400 people were participating, average age between 40 and 50, no clowns, no bongos. Participants admitted that they lived fairly prosperous lives but still felt a kinship with the millions of Americans who were enduring an economic battering. Here was a contingent of affluent but rebellious “middle Americans” yet Walnut Creek never got mentioned in the national media, as far as I know.
The Occupy movement has promulgated a variety of messages. With a daring plunge into class realities, the occupiers talk of the 1% who are exploiting the 99%, a brilliant propaganda formula, simple to use, yet saying so much, now widely embraced even by some media commentators. The protestors carried signs condemning the republic’s terrible underemployment and the empire’s endless wars, the environmental abuses perpetrated by giant corporations, the tax loopholes enjoyed by oil companies, the growing inequality of incomes, and the banksters and other gangsters who feed so lavishly from the public trough.
Some occupiers even denounced capitalism as a system and hailed socialism as a humane alternative. In all, the Occupy movement revealed an awareness of systemic politico-economic injustices not usually seen in U.S. protests. Remember, the initial and prime target was Wall Street, finance capital’s home base.
The mainstream news outlets not only control opinions but even more so opinion visibility, which in turn allows them to limit the parameters of public discourse. This makes it all the more imperative for ordinary people to join together in demonstrations, hoping thereby to maximize the visibility and impact of their opinions. The goal is to break through the near monopoly of conservative orthodoxy maintained by the “liberal” media.
So demonstrations are important. They have an energizing effect on would-be protestors, bringing together many who previously had thought themselves alone and voiceless. Demonstrations bring democracy into the streets. They highlight issues that have too long been buried. They mobilize numbers, giving a show of strength, reminding the plutocracy perched at the apex that the pyramid is rumbling.
But demonstrations should evolve into other forms of action. This has already been happening with the Occupy movement. It is more than a demonstration because its protestors did not go home at the end of the day. In substantial numbers they remained downtown, putting their bodies on the line, imposing a discomfort on officialdom just by their numbers and presence.
At a number of Occupy sites there have been civil disobedience actions, followed by arrests. In various cities the police have been unleashed with violent results that sometimes have backfired. In Oakland ex-Marine Scott Olsen was hit by a police teargas canister that busted his skull and left him hospitalized and unable to speak for a week. At best, he faces a long slow recovery. The day after Olsen was hit, hundreds of indignant new protestors joined the Occupy Oakland site. Police brutality incites a public reaction, often bringing more people out, just the opposite of what officials want.
Where does this movement go? What is to be done? The answers are already arising from the actions of the 99%:
- Discourage military recruitment and support conscientious objectors. Starve the empire of its legions. Organize massive tax resistance in protest of corrupt, wasteful, unlawful, and destructive Pentagon spending
- Transfer funds from corporate banks to credit unions and community banks. Support programs that assist the unemployed and the dispossessed. It was Giulio Tremonti, Italy’s embattled finance minister who declared: “Salvate il popolo, non le banche” (“Save the people, not the banks”). It would be nice to hear such sentiments emanating from the U.S. Treasury Department or the White House.
- Coordinate actions with organized labor. Unions still are the 99%’s largest and best financed groups. Consider what was done in Oakland: occupiers joined with longshoremen, truckers, and other workers to close the port. Already there are plans for a general strike in various communities. Such actions improve greatly if organized labor is playing a role.
- We need new electoral strategies, a viable third party, proportional representation, and even a new Constitution, one that establishes firm rules for an egalitarian democracy and is not a rigmarole designed to protect the moneyed class. The call for a constitutional convention (a perfectly legitimate procedure under the present U.S. Constitution) seems long overdo.
- Perhaps most of all, we need ideological education regarding the relationship between wealth and power, the nature of capitalism, and the crimes of an unbridled profit-driven financial system. And again the occupiers seem to be moving in that direction: in early November 2011, people nationwide began gathering to join teach-ins on “How the 1% Crashed the Economy.”
We need to explicitly invite the African-American, Latino, and Asian communities into the fight, reminding everyone that the Great Recession victimizes everyone but comes down especially hard on the ethnic poor.
We need to educate ourselves regarding the beneficial realities of publicly owned nonprofit utilities, publicly directed environmental protections, public nonprofit medical services and hospitals, public libraries, schools, colleges, housing, and transportation--all those things that work so well in better known in some quarters as socialism.
There is much to do. Still it is rather impressive how the battle is already being waged on so many fronts. Meanwhile the corporate media ignore the content of our protest while continuing to fulminate about the occupiers’ violent ways and lack of a precise agenda.
Do not for one moment think that the top policymakers and plutocrats don’t care what you think. That is the only thing about you that wins their concern. They don’t care about the quality of the air you breathe or the water you drink, or how happy or unhappy or stressed and unhealthy or poor you might be. But they do want to know your thoughts about public affairs, if only to get a handle on your mind. Every day they launch waves of disinformation to bloat your brains, from the Pentagon to Fox News without stint.
When the people liberate their own minds and take a hard clear look at what the 1% is doing and what the 99% should be doing, then serious stuff begins to happen. It is already happening. It may eventually fade away or it may create a new chapter in our history. Even if it does not achieve its major goals, the Occupy movement has already registered upon our rulers the anger and unhappiness of a populace betrayed.
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Show AllA most wonderful and incisive article by Michale Parenti. As he notes, the hope is that Americans across the country will continue to speak out against the Empire.
One action item to add to Parenti's list is a recent Ralph Nader recommendation to demonstrate in front of Congresscritters' and Senators' district offices.
Today's msm noted that Democratic Senator Patty Murray's staff is attending a retreat at a lobbying firm concurrent with Murray leading Obama's super secret catfood committee charged with gutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other domestic programs. Demonstrators need to be in front of her Seattle office letting her constituents know just who she represents.
YES!!! We must get out in the streets and in the face of our elected officials. Each of us has three of them. Two Senators and one Congress Member....and none of these three are voting as you want them to. They all vote to please their 'donors' They vote the funding of these endless and illegal wars which are bankrupting our nation and the reason the Gang of Thirteen is going to tell us next week just what they are going to cut. Your Representatives voted to give the power given to them in the Constitution to make a budget for our nation and turned that power over the the appointed 13. (lucky number for the 1% who will keep getting everything they want while the 99% suffer austerity.) Your 'reps' voted to give trillions of dollars to the crooks on Wall St. They voted to keep our health care system in the hands of the for profit insurance companies. These 'reps' voted for tax cuts for the rich and let the banksters run free to continue to drive people out of their homes and take their pension funds. Not one of those creeps are even accused of a crime---that is the crime---the Congress of the United States is CORRUPT TO THE BONE. We have to face it and kick them all out. Sweep out ALL INCUMBENTS! They had their chance to make big bucks and screw us. Give them a pink slip and let them get in line at the unemployment office. A bunch of them are showing how they really care about the poor people. They are having their chefs prepare them meals that can be paid for with food stamps. Oh yeah, and then they go to a fancy party and munch on hors d' oeuvres that go for $10.00 a pop.
It don't matter if they have a little R or a D after their name. Aint't no lesser evil. If they are in office now, get rid of them. We need a clean sweep and the idea of a Constitutional Conventions is splendid. It needs to be updated and very clear that a person is a living breathing life form that demands respect and rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not much of that going on in our nation today unless you are a hedge fund manager and should be in jail.
wantrealdemocracy, you make a very valid point, that the supposedly representative government in America is not representative of the 99%, but only does the bidding of the 1%. And your suggestion to seek a solution outside the normal structure of the current corrupted government is also very valid, and comports with the frustration and actions of the Occupy movement.
However, Parenti is, I think, making even the more fundamental point, that the nominal 'government' has already been fully 'captured' by a disguised Empire, which is not generally understood by the vast majority of Americans.
Parenti is recommending that if this 'captured' and 'corrupted' political system (qua government), along with the entire economic and financial system, the perverted corporatist media, the oppressed social system, and the monopoly of violence of this state power is all together exposed as 'an Empire', rather than any normal government, then a much greater percentage of the general population will quickly come to the conclusion that the existing system is literally illegitimate, and thus that Occupy is not confronting an authorized and normal government, but rather an alien Empire --- an invalid force, an illegitimate state of combined corporate and state power (which is to say a fascist Empire).
If by exposing the controlling system in America as actually being revealed as an Empire (not a government) then the Occupy movement should be able to quickly expand active participation in the Occupy movement by a dramatically greater percentage of the 99%. Many, who may have been very frustrated and came close to moving from a passive dismay to an active participation, but were reluctant to join in actions that they may have thought might appear to be somewhat anti-government --- will feel much more validated and freed in joining a movement that is instead focused "Against the Empire".
Once a large percentage of the general population starts to understand and internalize the knowledge that their former country and government is now in the hands of an Empire, a much larger percentage of the 99% will actually become active in an overtly "Anti-Empire" movement --- perhaps something called an "Occupy Empire" movement --- which is not, like the Tea Party, targeted against government in general, but rather intelligently and righteously targeting an EMPIRE that has taken over their own former government.
This, of course, is what the disguised two-party 'Vichy' Empire fears more than anything else --- that a truly large percentage of Americans will start thinking of the oppressive and unrepresentative controlling and oppressive system that they suffer under as an EMPIRE, and not just a bad period of government, or a disappointing term of Republicans or Democrats, but of their oppressors actually being a disguised Empire that has always planned and carried out a shifting party scam of downward spiral that is really controlled by an unelected and illegitimate secret Empire, which is making their lives, their children's future, and the entire economic, social, and environmental future of their world a living hell.
When this recognition of the fundamental illegitimacy and corruption of a hidden elitist global Empire is disclosed to the vast majority of Americans, and they recognize that this is the type of oppressive Empire that the early Americans had to overcome against the British Empire ---- then watch out!
The lying and deceitfully disguised Empire will take-off for parts unknown and outside the Untied States faster than you could say, "Royalist retreat" after the First American Revolution.
Yes, wantrealdemocracy, once the equivalent of this generation's Paul Revere rides his famous horse back ride and howlers out "the Empire is coming, the Empire is coming, the Empire is here", then the 21st century (non-violent) minute-men will gather in such millions on the greens of all American cities that there will be no 'shot heard round the world', but only a "massive sucking sound" as the elitist 1% of the Empire vanish without even attempting to fight!
Best luck and love to Occupy
Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
over
violent/Vichy
empire,
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Occupy Empire, Expose Empire, Confront Empire, and finally Excise Empire
Errol, yes, you called it out. Parenti is dead-on when it comes to focusing on Occupy needing to be "Against Empire".
I'm a bit surprised that the CD comment about Parenti did not reference his most famous and prescient work, his 1995 classic actually titled, "Against Empire".
It is very encouraging that many more CDers are now talking about Empire, and recognizing that the disguised global corporate/financial/militarist Empire that has taken over our former country (and several others; U.K., Israel, Germany, Italy, etc.) needs to be exposed by the Occupy movement, and articulated by an expanding and refined strategy from Occupy.
And it is encouraging that the Occupy movement itself is starting to consider shifting to a more strategic position, rather than merely its early tactical stance, to address the seminal and causal issue of Empire --- particularly as a way of framing all the separate 'symptom problems' of; vast inequality of income, Wall Street looting, expanding foreign imperialist wars, domestic spying and lying, corporatist media propaganda, violent police-state counter-revolutionary attacks on Occupy, etc. --- as all being caused and created by the integrated political, economic, social, media, cultural, and militarist global Empire that remains undiagnosed and hidden to the vast majority of those still passive within the 99%.
As was the case with the Nazi Empire in both the captured fatherland, and in the captured country of France, under the phony 'Vichy' facade of the Nazi Empire, the passive indifference of the majority of the population is enough for a highly developed and disguised Empire to continue employing calibrated degrees of oppression and violence "at home" and "abroad" within the territories being attacked. Which is precisely the technique that the global Empire, nominally head-quartered in America, is employing "at home" and with more overt violence "abroad".
As the great Hannah Arendt presciently warned from her lifetime of studying empires, and her directly painful experience under the Nazi Empire:
"Empire abroad entails tyranny at home"
Best luck and love to Occupy
Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
over
violent/Vichy
empire,
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Occupy Empire, Expose Empire, Confront Empire, and finally Excise Empire
I support the goals. One detail: though the collaboration between police union members and protesters in certain sites is encouraging, I have read accounts about the Oakland port situation that are significantly at variance with what Parenti says here. Can anyone cite a reliable source that says the union members cooperated with a shutdown?
Really?
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"Do not for one moment think that the top policymakers and plutocrats don’t care what you think. That is the only thing about you that wins their concern. They don’t care about the quality of the air you breathe or the water you drink, or how happy or unhappy or stressed and unhealthy or poor you might be. But they do want to know your thoughts about public affairs, if only to get a handle on your mind. Every day they launch waves of disinformation to bloat your brains, from the Pentagon to Fox News without stint."
Brilliant! Another great piece of truth from Michael Parenti.
Excellent cite Kiely,
Parent's insight that you highlight, needs to be recalled whenever reading comment threads at CD.
Many comments here, though true in the analysis, if we follow their prescription, will lead to a paralysis.
Parenti insists that a fierce independent consciousness has value! And may lead to real societal transformation!
In my "realism" and cynicism i lose sight of real possibility.
M Parenti: "Do not for one moment think that the top policymakers and plutocrats don’t care what you think. That is the only thing about you that wins their concern."
Sorry, Kiely et al., I do not agree with much in this article. The biggest item of disagreement is "That (what you think) is the only thing about you that wins their concern." My personal experience is that they only want your vote (and your campaign contribution) and couldn't care less if you think at all.
Demonstrating in front of "Congressional critters' district offices"? Get real. Acquaintances of mine have been doing that for years, and my entrenched Congressman (and every other politician from county commissioner to governor) will do whatever necessary to get the most campaign contributions, and the votes will follow. The stock answer to any suggestion contrary to the opinion of major contributors is, "There is not enough political will."
A variation used when public campaign financing was discussed was, "I don't want to use tax money for elections that could be used for education." What he really meant was, "I don't want to give a challenger a level playing field." The voters he was catering to were those who don't want to give a dime to any candidate but their own.
A variation used on health care reform was, "H.R. 676 is a poorly written bill that would put conscientious providers in our state at a disadvantage." No, it was a concisely written, straightforward bill that was a lot easier to understand and could have been enacted quickly. The kluge we have now will be be picked apart piece by piece long before anything of consequence takes effect. The major ingredient omitted was a public option, which candidate Obama said was the ONLY thing that would keep the insurance companies and HMOs honest. Of course, we all know how that turned out once the insurance industry's lobbyists sat down at the elbow of committee head Max Baucus and "helped" him write a bill that didn't satisfy anyone.
The biggest public reaction to the Occupy Movement seems to be a major switch of deposits from banks to credit unions. Anybody who reads consumer magazines could have discovered the benefits of credit unions without a mob on downtown streets calling attention to them. Nearly every big corporation's employees have one, as do the nation's armed forces. My money has been in credit unions and other member-owned institutions for more than 48 years. What was everybody else "thinking"?
"but they do want to know your thoughts about public affairs" First, you need to have coherent thoughts. Blow up your TV, talk to your neighbor, tend your garden.
Occupy Your Imagination!
Yes. Kill your television.
Yes, absolutely, be rid of the TV toxin and its creeping pollution. Even if you are well versed in critical thinking the insidious effect will still creep through your best defences.
Certainly there's some educational, historical, and entertainment value, but none of it is real -its all had a spin put on it from its creator. Not necessarily malicious in any way but it subtly sets the norms for society behaviour, fashions and how to think.
Mixed in with that is government news propaganda from the fawning MSM and other addictive mind-softening pap plus chinese water torture from banal commercials again setting societal norms.
If you can stay away for a month the addiction should be well and truly cured for good.
OWS is a broad-based horizontal Movement to empower all citizens to raise their voices on all issues. It is not, and should not be just about banks and money. It is about war crimes, drones, hunger, homelessness, exploitation in the USA and by the USA in other countries, restrictions on political speech in the US, (banning of books as in Vermont libraries and schools across the US), unsafe working conditions, child labor in farm fields, the patents on genes, GMOs, poor education, on and on.
It is Local and it is Global. It is all inclusive. It is political. It is non-partisan. It is anything we make it - and make it we will.
Yes, this, OWS, IS the World Family Revolucion ! It WILL succeed because the oppressors, the corporate/military, will not stop causing suffering until they are overthrown !
The World Rebelion will not be easy; but the Spirit of the People cannot be broken!!! Viva LaRevolucion !
I hope we will. We need to put our money, our consumer activity, into the action. There is so much that we need to do. So much of our own behavior that we need to change. And it won't be easy. Changing from a big bank to a local bank or credit union is the most hopeful action of the 99% that I've seen so far. More actions like that in additiion to everything else the occupiers are doing. It's a very big project.
Yes, that bank to credit union action was a big hit! And the Oakland strike, while not a full fledged one, was a good start. I heard people say the media under-estimated the Oakland strike numbers, of course. Anyone have accurate numbers?
I hope we will. We need to put our money, our consumer activity, into the action. There is so much that we need to do. So much of our own behavior that we need to change. And it won't be easy. Changing from a big bank to a local bank or credit union is the most hopeful action of the 99% that I've seen so far. More actions like that in additiion to everything else the occupiers are doing. It's a very big project.
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Perhaps, but I haven't heard them talk about the military very much, and I definitely haven't seen them demonstrate outside the Pentagon.
Are you not aware of the Veterans who are involved with Occupy? Did you not hear Leah Bolger speak at the Super Committee hearing while being hauled out by security? Veterans For Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, and March Forward are all participating in the Occupy movement and constantly remind of the connection between War and the Economy. Maybe you've missed this because you aren't involved yourself...
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That doesn't alter my main point: the focus is WAY more on economic inequality, and the media coverage reflects that. So does the evidence of signs & banners among OWS, as does the targets for marches and occupations. Is mainstream OWS going to join with anti-war veteran's groups to target the MIC and its buildings and institutions in a serious direct action?
Point well taken. It would be great if the larger OWS movement would be willing to take actions against the DOD/Pentagon as well as the corporations which are getting richer and richer off of war. Sadly too many USAmericans don't realize that corporations such as Boeing make the majority of their money from manufacturing war machines and not jets sold to various airlines. Unsure myself how to wake up the public....
michael parenti should be called upon by occupy to serve as their resident intellectual guidepost
he is muy simpatico as the spanish say
there are some other initiatives that should be taken
1. a class action suit filed on behalf of the citizens of the united states against the corporations for destroying our environment - they should be stripped of all of their assets with the management teams sent off to prison to join bernie madoff, sort of like a reverse bonus but it should be every bit as generous
2. all of the major banks and hedgefunds should be shut down and stripped of their assets - reverse bonuses measured in jail time for the execs there as well
3. most of the senate, congress and wh should be put on trial for treason
4. major media licences should be revoked immediately - fox, cnn, etc
5. we should set free, immediately, about half of the black boys in prison
6. blacks should be paid compensation for slavery
7. first nations should be compensated for their genocide, conducted for the most part on behalf of the railroads
8. the nuclear industry should be put on trial for irradiating our planet - bonus jail time for those fucks too - scientists and all
9 the medical and educational field should be clensed of corporate funding completely
jack abramoff is doing a piece on 60 minutes this week and he has a suggestion for removing lobbying from politics which i think is good:
if you work for the government you can never go into private business in that field - ever, period - and if you work in the private sector you can never go into government
no more gmo's - no more rockefeller vaccines and medications
stop the wars
I would add to that that anyone convicted of a marijuana related offense, state or federal should be granted a retroactive pardon, with arrest records expunged from their records, and full rights of citizenship restored.
A great article as usual, from one of our best voices of the left.
I especially liked "We need new electoral strategies, a viable third party..."
How about teaming up with the Greens, Michael, help them clean house and decide on a winning list of candidates, for the congress as well as pres and VP. There is time to do that before the 2012 election if we don't dawdle. And the climate is right.
Like Ralph Nader, who learned his lesson in 2000, Dr. Parenti probably knows better than to get involved with the Green Party. Although the party's platform is admirable (I am still registered as a member of the Green Party in my state), its membership as I knew it had little connection with or interest in organizing blue collar or rural folk. Its national political prospects are nil.
Tony Vodarka
Tony:
Since Parenti thinks we need a viable third party, and you don't think the Greens are adequate, where should we look for a viable third party?
Or would you rather see progressives/liberals vote for Democrats again in 2012?
Good question, amigo. Perhaps the occupy movement that is spreading around the country might be the embryo of a wide-based populist movement such as developed in the late nineteenth century in reaction to the gross excesses of the banking and railroad interests then. Wishful thinking but possible. Support this movement, folks, with money if nothing else.
Agreed! Support the Occupy movement... It has the power and right attitude at this time to inspire a new political party, either directly or indirectly.
RE Greens...I was involved in the Nader 2000 campaign and (at least where I'm from) the Greens were a tough, insular bunch to work with... the Occupy movement has the center stage now...
Might I offer that your opinion of the Green Party membership is far too limited to make generalized accusations In fact,Texas Greens qualified for the ballot chiefly through registration of Latinos there. Also, considering that we have seen a steady, albeit, slow growth of said party's' presence in local and statewide elections, with more candidates appearing on ballots in each election cycle, I see your "nil prospects" as an attitude unique to yourself and one that is not at all helpful as well. Everyone interested knows the uphill climb facing any party seeking to crack the monopoly of the Duopoly, yet you call difficult as impossible. Have you a better idea?
Similarly, your "opinion" of Nader's negativity regarding that Party is not at all an accurate one. In 2000 he lent his name to that party in order to assist in building third party support for a progressive agenda. He never joined said party and he chose not to run on that ticket in the subsequent 2004 race.To say that Nader "learned his lesson" is to throw into question your motivation here, sorry to have to note.
Currently we see an urgent need for the presence of a third party in American politics, one dedicated to free itself from the abuse of corporate money. I see the third party as the only way to keep a progressive agenda before the Legislature and the American people. The Green Party seems to be the only one on the horizon currently with a track record of steady growth , thus it has both my support and my energies.
Perhaps, Tony, with all due respect, had you put forth to your Party your opinion regarding the enlistment of blue collar and rural voters instead of throwing up your hands and walking away, something concrete may have been accomplished.
As it happens, I was a founding member of the Green Party in my state in 2000 and, as I live in the rural south of that state, I was doing exactly what you suggested. The lack of support in this effort that I received from the urban leadership of the party, primarily interested in vegetarianism, NIMBY issues, single-issue feminism and centrist liberalism, is the origin of my negative opinion. You are clearly overly enthusiastic about your subject, which has proven to be a less than minor force in national politics. And forgive me if I ask why you posted in such a juvenile snotty tone? Grow up and discuss politics like an adult.
That precisely parallels my experience. I too was involved in the founding of a state Green Party.
So, where do you find the "snotty party of my response to you? Because I disagree I must be rude heh?
Get a clue ( now that is certainly snotty.). By the by, snotty is apparently in the eye of the beholder . Your across the board crap about Green Party members is certainly a biased, unfair and rather stupid one ( again that is snotty).
My "over" enthusiastic comments are forced by your overwhelmingly ignorant and false biss. (Again snotty, now you know the difference). Perhaps you are simply a liar, perhaps you were offended because the Greens did not see your "wisdom", so you left the game. Perhaps a statistician might tell you how dumb it is to maker vast generalizations based upon extremely limited statistical evidence, none of which can be verified.
Perhaps, and this is far more likely, you are just another loyal democrat. I will continue to be a registered Green, work for the advancement of third party politics as long as there is no better choice. Oh, and despite your descent into juvenile insult ( for which you have been amply repaid in kind) the facts show plainly that Green Party presence is growing with every election cycle, perhaps because those not committed, that would be you, run off in a snit.
More petulant bullshit.
You are simply blind, arrogant and of no relevance. Not to worry, we will get along fine without you.
Who's "we"? You have a mouse in your pocket? Grow up.
Following your own advice seems a relevant response. You, not I, left in a snit because no one listened to your "brilliance". You, not I, made a generalized statement about a nationwide party based upon a limited exposure to a local chapter. You, not I, called my initial response "snotty" , not because it actually was such, but because I dared oppose your defamation of Greens everywhere.
The editorial "we" refers to all Greens, as anyone actually attempting to converse as an adult might understand, sorry you do not fit that definition. Why you post with such immaturity is your problem and not mine, but it certainly does not make for honest or mature debate.
For the last time, you posted a false image of all Green Party chapters, some of which are actually actively recruiting in rural areas, as I noted with the successes of the Texas Greens. You may think your shite doesn't stink but I'll bet that chapter of the Party that endured your (limited) membership has a rather different opinion.
"... he [Nader] chose not to run on that ticket in the subsequent 2004 race."
Horse pucky, doubledee. He was purged in a very ugly, manipulative power play that has left a sour taste in the mouths of many, many potential Green Party supporters. Anyone who was there knows this is true.
The reason the Green Party will not be a viable force nationally is because of that debacle and the party's ridiculous and stupid "safe state" strategy and the fact that the party, like Move-On, is controlled by safe liberals.
Obama - Worst President Ever.
How could he have been purged when he never was a member nor intended his running on that ticket as anything but a one time event?
Proof is awaited.
Postscript:
Its now 11/13 and proof of your assertion has not been forthcoming. Hit and run much?
I don't "hit and run", doubledee. I just don't find the time to get back into this site often.
For those who were at the 2004 Green Party Convention in Milwaukee, there is no need to "prove" my assertion. For those who weren't, like you, doubledee, do some research. Google "Nader 2004 Green Party convention" or something like it and read away.
If you'd rather a different word than "purge" be used, fine. The point is that the Green Party shot itself in both feet that year and have not recovered since. If it ever wants to be a viable national force, it needs to grow a pair -- and I'm not talking about feet.
Oh dear, there are so many enamored of their own opinions that debate and discussion becomes impossible, and silly egos rule the day.
First fucking chapter of the link from google:
"As delegates to the Green Party convention assembled in Milwaukee today, they were split over what course of action to take in the 2004 presidential election. The convention is to decide Saturday whether to nominate its own candidate for president, endorse the independent candidacy of Ralph Nader, or sit out the election entirely."
As a Nader supporter before becoming a Green, I was very aware, as you were not, that Nader was intent upon running as a Green for one election cycle only, in 2000. I offer the words "endorse the independent candidacy of Ralph Nader" as proof that there was no purge and those who claim otherwise are simply agendized, wrong, or wrapped up in their own self worth.
The Greens decided not to endorse Nader as he chose to run an independent candidacy, the word purge is simply wrong.
Tony, you don't know what views Parenti has on the Greens. I know he has endorsed Green candidates in the past. But before you make these statements, ask him yourself. He answers email.
It's not that Greens "have little connection with or interest in organizing blue collar or rural folk," as you claim, Tony, it's that, despite the fact that membership is growing at quite a clip, not nearly enough members become active, pitch in and help do the work that is so necessary. If the party is to become viable, one that, if supported by enough progressives, could change the way Americans think about their relationship with government and capitalism, more than a handful of activists is needed within the machinery of the party, and needed badly. If you're a Green, Tony, why don't you work on connecting with "rural and blue collar folk." Excellent plan.
It appears, though, that what too many people want is a "ready made," already successful political party (like the Democrats?), one they don't have to build themselves. Active Greens don't have magic wands. Each member has just two mortal hands and one mind. It takes real work from active people and several hours out of every week trying to cover all the bases. Too much work, perhaps?
Greens have done a lot of the hard work already, from getting ballot access in most states, recruiting and running candidates (a difficult task considering Democratic Party's virtual hold on progressives of this nation), sponsoring educational forums, etc. Rather than say the Greens aren't up to the task, why not get involved and help them build and grow the best (demanding!) progressive party this country has ever seen and desperately needs. It's entirely possible and the only thing that could block a progressive project like this is lack of support and constant destructive memes. That's committing to self fulfilling prophecy. Enough of that, already!
What can I say, rvwalker, the rosy picture you paint is not my experience, see my comment directly above under abvodvarka. I cannot see that the party and its membership has any sort of appeal beyond the college-educated "middle class". I know there have been some exceptions but not many. Anyway, concerning Dr. Parenti's article, perhaps the occupy movement contains the germ of what we are seeking.
You think I painted a rosy picture? Hardly. Read my comments again.
What I'd like you and others to understand is that the Green Party is not a "ready made" one. What happens depends on the active membership. It's altogether flexible and democratic, as long as the four pillars are not compromised. The Greens are bottom up and do not accept corporate money. Even though Ralph didn't run as a Green, I voted for him. He ran as an independent because he didn't want to wait until the convention to be nominated. He was champing at the bit! I think that was a mistake on the Greens part but membership at the time wanted to be a part of a convention and to nominate the candidate. The Greens, like OWS, is fledgling movement. I'd love for the Greens to nominate him in 2012 but ....... as Nader said about running ....... "it's not likely."
RV, I admire your dogged enthusiasm for a political movement that has produced close to nothing on the national level, eleven years after its "high" point in 2000 (less than 3%), in fact it has been on a steady decline ever since. I and others here have pointed out that, after that year, Nader was finished with the Greens. Let me say once again, the "middle class" political orientation that directs Green Party policy HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF ORGANIZING BLUE COLLAR AND RURAL FOLK.
Why, because HE says so!
You got that right, RV! Americans, used to instant-everything, don't want to actually work at building a party! They want a party ready-made, no assembly necessary, with millions of members, ballot access supplied, and corporate media covered, that they can just join. Or maybe just vote for.
If everyone who decries the two corporate parties and proclaims that there should be a "viable" (pre-assembled) third party actually joined the Greens and collected the signatures, and passed out the leaflets and ran for local office, the Greens would be a strong force for good in this country.
Instead, when Zeus, or the Koch brothers, don't produce a full-fledged party from their foreheads, the whiners will hold their noses (as if that makes it OK!) and vote for Obama. And complain that the Greens aren't strong enough.
The steady rise in ballot access nationwide would indicate that there are, indeed, hard working and dedicated Greens across this nation. Otherwise I find your comments accurate.
It might seem that the disgruntled former Green is actually a rather 'gruntled' current democrat..;-) How else to explain his silly position? Poor Tony, needs attention.
“Both parties are funded by the same mega corporations,” the narrator announces in the brief video. “The same corporations that fund political campaigns; the same corporations that buy lobbyists; the same corporations that operate the United States governments.”
"Voting for these parties is unethical," the voice adds. "They have destroyed the American democracy." According to the Anonymous video, the candidates are committed to “serve the private interests of the major corporations” rather than the millions of Americans who must make a decision come Election Day. As a result, the collective is calling for the occupation of the offices on December 27, and from there is asking protesters to "peacefully shut down the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses on January 3."
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-caucus-iowa-election-753/
Sweet, thanks for passing this on. D27 of by and for the people.