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NYT Oversells WikiLeaks/Iranian Missiles Story
WikiLeaks document dumps are largely what media want to make of them. There's one conventional response, which goes something like this: "There's nothing new here, but WikiLeaks is dangerous!" But there's another option: "There's nothing here, except for the part that confirms a storyline we've been pushing." In those cases, WikiLeaks is deemed very, very useful.
That was the case with the last batch of WikiLeaks documents, when the New York Times wrote a long piece about what the documents alleged about Iran's involvement in the Iraq War. Journalist Ali Gharib wrote about that issue (and talked to CounterSpinabout it too). You get a similar feel from the Times' treatment of Iranian weapons in today's Times (11/29/10).
"Iran Fortifies Its Arsenal With the Aid of North Korea" is the self-confident headline, and the piece (co-authored by William Broad, James Glanz and David Sanger) seems remarkably certain about this intelligence:
Secret American intelligence assessments have concluded that Iran has obtained a cache of advanced missiles, based on a Russian design, that are much more powerful than anything Washington has publicly conceded that Tehran has in its arsenal, diplomatic cables show.
The Times' account seems to rely almost entirely on one cable in the WikiLeaks archive-- a "detailed, highly classified account of a meeting between top Russian officials and an American delegation." The Times wastes no time in conveying the danger:
The missiles could for the first time give Iran the capacity to strike at capitals in Western Europe or easily reach Moscow, and American officials warned that their advanced propulsion could speed Iran's development of intercontinental ballistic missiles.
At issue are 19 missiles that Iran allegedly bought from North Korea. It's hard to know how definitive this evidence might be. (There are likely many secret documents pertaining to Iraq's WMDs that proved to be entirely incorrect; because something is secret or confidential does not mean it's uniquely candid or truthful.) The Times does not seem at all skeptical about the story, but there's one thing they won't do: publish the actual cable:
At the request of the Obama administration, The New York Times has agreed not to publish the text of the cable.
So the paper will publish a story that reiterates the most explosive allegations in the cable, but not the cable itself. This is curious.
Luckily WikiLeaks did publish it. And the most interesting thing one learns is that the Russians were deeply skeptical of the U.S. allegations about these missiles:
Russia said that during its presentations in Moscow and its comments thus far during the current talks, the U.S. has discussed the BM-25 as an existing system. Russia questioned the basis for this assumption and asked for any facts the U.S. had to provide its existence such as launches, photos etc. For Russia, the BM-25 is a mysterious missile. North Korea has not conducted any tests of this missile, but the U.S. has said that North Korea transferred 19 of these missiles to Iran. It is hard for Russia to follow the logic trail on this. Since Russia has not seen any evidence of this missile being developed or tested, it is hard for Russia to imagine that Iran would buy an untested system. Russia does not understand how a deal would be made for an untested missile. References to the missile's existence are more in the domain of political literature than technical fact. In short, for Russia, there is a question about the existence of this system.
In other words, not only were the Russians not convinced that Iran had purchased these missiles, they weren't sure that these missiles even existed.
The cable went on to note that the U.S. view is that the Iranians might be buying a system that doesn't work in order to adapt the technology to its existing missiles:
The U.S. repeated its earlier comment that Iran and North Korea have different standards of missile development than many other countries, including the U.S. and Russia. North Korea exported No Dong missiles after only one flight test, so it is not unimaginable that it would build and seek to export a system that has not been tested. This is especially true for North Korea because of its need for hard currency. In the U.S. view, the more interesting question is why would Iran buy a missile that has not been tested. One possible answer is that Iran has recognized that the BM-25's propulsion technology exceeds the capabilities of that used in the Shahab-3, and that acquiring such technology was very attractive. Iran wanted engines capable of using more-energetic fuels, and buying a batch of BM-25 missiles gives Iran a set it can work on for reverse engineering. This estimate would be consistent with the second stage of the Safir SLV using steering engines from the BM-25 missile.
Of course it's possible that the North Koreans actually sold Iran missiles that they can use to strike Europe. Or they didn't do any such thing. Or that they sold them missiles that don't actually work. But the Times seems to be going with the first story, based on secret documents that, when you actually read them, suggest strongly that the other two possibilities might be correct. In light of this, the decision not to publish the cable makes a lot more sense: You can make strong allegations about an official enemy without letting your readers see the less than overwhelming evidence.
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Show AllWell, H.Clinton is spinning away. It is being shown on Dem. Now right now. A clip of her talk. Suddenly the wikileaks cables are relevant because she is saying that anyone who reads them will conclude that Iran is a serious threat to the world and everyone agrees with that.
Why the oversell?
Because It makes a VERY massive war and enormously profitable war in the ME against Iran inevitable in 2011. The timing of the wikileaks propaganda/disclosures about Iran, and the disclosure that the Sunni Arab bloc led by Saudi Arabia (yet once again)wants Amurka/Israel to bomb Iran the "snake" into oblivion is telling.
What cinches the deal is that implicitly the Arab bloc is willing to finance this war by the Empire and Europe/Japan/South Korea, with even soldiers provided by Al Quaeda Sunni Arab jihadists against those heretical Shias of Iran (the "snake" according to the King of the Arabs in Mecca/Riyadh).
Hence the stage is being carefully prepared to bring prosperity and growth back to the Empire and its lackeys. The added plus is that it will get rid of millions of Arabs and Shias of Iran, and quite a few Israelis in the process and the vast oil fields will be there for the taking.
Christians of Amurka/Europe living in the bliss of ignorance once again on the blood and bodies of the Semites in the ME for another 30 years. Am I surprised?
I want a world with less governmental secrets.
A world free of all secrets, this would be a world free of all darkness where it would be impossible to enrich yourself upon the misery of another.
For darkness is a liar’s pretense of good hiding a criminal intent, and surely no one commits such misery in the light for all the world to see.
Beautifully said. Thank you!
Why is Mr. Hart surprised that the Israeli Times would publish such propaganda?
Israel wants Iran attacked. Slant now is that our "bought and paid for Arab partners" want an attack on Iran too.
What Mr. Hart should be investigating is the ties these writers have to the State of Israel.
Now, that would be worth reading.
You are spot on with this observation.
Consider David Frum's blatant propagandizing on CNN.com ("Wikileaks builds case against Iran"). Frum is on the board of the Republican Jewish Coalition and served in the WH under W. He's also a former associate of the American Enterprise Institute.
The defensiveness of Frum's position is apparent throughout the article with repeated - and pointless - references to Israel.
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FAIR should do an expose on all pro-Israeli media types (there are many) and look into their backgrounds and connections. Does not Ethan Bonner's (NYT) son serve in the IDF? Tom Friedman, David Ignatius, Isabel Kershner, Wolf Blitzer, Eliot Spitzer.........etc.
i bet my bottom dollar that the majority of the important positions in the corporate media / publishing / movie industry identify themselves as jewish.
Isn't it amazing that we're still talking about the issues addressed in Mein Kampf back in 1926? It's now 2010 and we still don't get it.
People’s perception of the news, this depends entirely upon what one feels they deserve, which is reinforced by the amount of wealth that they own.
The upper half of American society for example, all those with great jobs, terrific homes and deluxe healthcare. Feeling that they deserve to be all they can be, with a guilt-free conscience do they love the thought of invading Iran and adding all their oil reserves to the American economy.
The Times is more important than AIPAC because the newspaper frames the news in order to create the "public opinion" the Times wants and then go after those politicians who fail to toe the line. Having experienced the framing of the news by the Times, this time Wikileaks did not provide the leaks to the Times, which were actually provided by the Guardian to the Times.
Good article, good comment. A lot of cherry picking by M$M, which fails to be critical of US actions revealed in the leaks.
It's amazing how dead on Chomsky and Herman were in 1988 when they wrote their book, Manufacturing Consent.
Surprise, surprise... the NYT's is helping the capitalist war pigs to, once again, sell another war.
Only greedy people read the NYT. And not because they trust it to give them the truth, but because they trust it to generate the thought control darkness that enables them to keep their excessive wealth.
Your overgeneralized comment is absurd. Maybe *some* of the people who read the NYT's could be described as you suggest, but not all of them.
does it have to be ALL? what's your point?
curiousteve says... "what's your point?"
-- My point is stated clearly in the first sentence - overgeneralizing people into one category is absurd.
curiousteve says... "does it have to be ALL?"
-- That's irrelevant to the point I was making. I really could care less if some of the people who read the NYT's are 'greedy' and read it 'because they trust it to generate the thought control darkness that enables them to keep their excessive wealth'. Really. I don't fucking care... it's none of my business.
However, I do care when somebody makes a statement that is FALSE and accuses the many people I personally know (who read the NYTs) to be 'greedy' and those who 'keep (let alone HAVE!!) excessive wealth because 'they trust it to generate the thought control darkness that enables them to keep their excessive wealth.' This is why I felt it was necessary to call out John_ellis' comment as absurd for falsely overgeneralizing all NYT's readers into one category. And THAT was my point.
Can you understand that?
“Ecuador offers WikiLeak's founder
Assange residency, no questions asked”
Most upset at WikiLeaks are the rich owners of a newspaper that claims to be, “the first choice for news and information in Canada's capital for over 160 years,” the Ottawa Citizen. For the above headline is from today’s article that says nothing about all the documents released by WikiLeaks, striving instead to focus all attention on the evil people in WikiLeaks and “Ecuador's leftist government” so evil.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ecuador+offers+WikiLeak+founder+Assange+residency+questions+asked/3902251/story.html
We shouldn't focus too much on just the NYT. The coprporate media is utterly corrupt and, ahead of the presidency; ahead of the corrupt bought-and-sold congress, the prime enemy of democracy in the United States. The media, even before the corporations, shoound be the first target of any militant protest action.
Get the wheat paste, bricks and spray paint ready.
SaboCat, please rewrite this comment, because the rich head it all as they own it all including most politicians body and soul, while you have the rich innocent of it all.
Consider John...remove the tool and you remove the effect.
But, remove all of corporate media including some most deceitful liberal media, and what have you accomplished? Just a wasting of time while the rich come up with a new and more deceitful tool.
The goal being to remove the deadly force of the rich by eliminating their excessive wealth, the first step has to be drawing everyone’s attention to how the rich use their wealth.
Consider...what if you could trust the media to report the "truth" Suppose they actually reported wrongdoing and corruption. Actually reported fraud and criminality, abuse and avoidance of the law.
Hard to get around that.
I know....pipe dream.
People in the upper half of our Empire love media darkness as it allows them to keep great jobs terrific homes and deluxe healthcare. While we in the lower half love the light as it gives us hope that a majority may come into the light.
Problem is, the upper 50% has all of the wealth, which means that we have none of the power that comes from wealth.
Not you again with your 50% has all the wealth and the light and dark.
Frankly I'm surprised anyone read the NYT to know what they would say. It ceased to be a Newspaper long ago. It simply pushes its own agenda and rather than "reporting" news, it "makes" news. William Randolph H would be SO proud.
As SaboCat so rightly points out, the MSM is the first enemy of record and the first that should be cleand up. Not thru militant action of course.
Got any alternatives? Write nice letters to them?
So let me see. I write something on a piece of paper, say it "The moon is actually made of Green Cheese" and stamp it top secret.
Someone at sometime finds that document and "leaks it".
The NYT picks it up and it now a fact that the moon made of green cheese.
>>The fact that people from Turkey were allowed to bring weapons into Iraq which were then used against our own troops has been largely ignored
Herein lies the problem Jill which is what makes it so hard to arrive at the facts.
People from Turkey bringing arms into Iraq to use against Americans is not a fact. IT a possibility just as Iran having those long range missiles is , but something written on a piece of paper does not make it fact.
Dick Cheney used to have his own department leak stuff from the Government to the press. Most of this stuff was patently false. Newspapers would then pick it up and publish it. Dick would then go on TV and cite those articles as proofs that helped to advance his own agenda. (The Plame case..the metal tubes for Nuclear weapons case)
As I suggested before, if a Government has a "leak" and recognizes there no way to stop all such leaks, they will deliberately release information that benefits their agenda as part of that leak, and the press in conjunction with them, will focus on what the Government wants the public to believe.(if it was top secret and leaks it is perceived as MORE truthy)
If and when it becomes necessary from a Diplomatic point of view to isolate Turkey, then the media will focus on these "proven" Turkish links to militant groups in Iran or Afghanistan.
It might well be when Israel decides to attack Lebanon again and or bomb the Gaza strip once more and Turkey issues an objection. There would be high level meetings with Turkish Diplomats and unless a Turkey "backs down" it will be hinted that the US will push for sanctions along with its allies in the EU.
Now to Assange. There remains the possibility he part of this as some have suggested. My own opinion is that he is NOT based upon what I have read and on the larger picture. That said he is in a very difficult position.
He indicated in a press report he tries not to release information that could lead to someone being directly harmed. There a fundamental problem however when someone is sincerely trying to get the TRUTH out and has working against them an Entity trying to spread a lie.
If Assange decides certain information being fed to his group lies and or are planted fabrications and refuses to release them, then he becomes what he fights against, that being a person who decides "What The Public Should Know".
It akin to the Council of Nicea picking and choosing which stories on Jesus would become part of their "Holy Bible" and the "Word of God". There were factions at that Council wanting everything published and factions wanting to pick and choose so as to to shape Christianity according to a pre-conceived agenda. The latter prevailed and to these idea we really have no idea of what the REAL truth was.
All the contradictions and factious stories that the rich added to the ancient Greek manuscripts that comprise the Old and New Testament, they may be eliminated by this simple rule found eleven (11) times in Scripture:
"By the hand of two or three witnesses
may every matter be established.”
So if a contradiction of Scripture is found only once in Scripture, eliminate it. And if a story contradicts two or more Text in Scripture, eliminate it.
Ah yes, but this rule does not apply to what is NOT in the Scripture.
Not to argue that the ancient Greek Old and New Testament are fact or fiction, just to say that only 32 contradictions of any significance do they contain, and this rule eliminates them all.
Just to say that if we translate the Old and New Testament according to its own rules, we find it to be free of all contradictions. But this fact does not establish it to be truth, only you can do that and only for your self.
But as one contradiction in a book leaves readers with the clear apprehension that all the book is fiction, surely it is impossible to gain anything that resembles faith from a bible. Surely to make all the readers hypocrites and create a fake morality that best protects excessive wealth, surely this is why all bibles are published by the rich.
Dear John Ellis;
Or you might try reading the Hermetica as that predates the Old Testament. A lot of the Hermetica words and ideas ended up being used in the Old Testament. Since so much of the New Testament was oral in the beginning,, and so many scribes etc. with their own political viewpoints mangled words, and even had poor grasp of Latin or Greek, it's really hard to know what was intended.
I forget which person said it, but 'Do unto others, everything else is commentaary." I like that.
" I forget which person said it, but 'Do unto others, everything else is commentaary." I like that."
Rabbi Hillel in the first century in answer to a request:"Can you summarize the Old Testament [which obviously is called a different name in Judaism] is one sentence."
What about reaching Tel Aviv?
"This was either a highly speculative memo or a false one."
It was not a "memo" it was a diplomatic cable - similar to a telegram.
One easy way to find out - go to wikileaks and look up the diplonatic cable itself (as soon as the latest DOS attack is thwarted.
How msny commenting here have taken the time to visit wikileaks and research the cables themselves?
I seriously doubt that US authorities could have inserted a fake diplomatic cable in the wikileaks file containing the cable amongst the thousands of others. The file is at ant rate backed up on detachable devices.
It wasnt challenged by the russian cable, it was challenged by a russian diplomat in the US embassy itself, and this challenge was discussed in the subject cable.
In other words, the NYT ignored half of the story.
Morticia
“Not you again with your
50% has all the wealth”
Having developed land and sold real estate in Minnesota and Wisconsin for over 25 years, I assure you that a little over half of housing is great, requiring the income needed to live in it to be equally great. Just take a couple of hours to tour the housing in your community, just see how the better half lives.
go to Democracy Now and listen to Chomsky.
NYT spins by saying "arabs consider iran to be the biggest threat,"
when it's the saudi king, the egyptian dictator, and the abudabi banker-prince that want iran to be bombed (and the iranian revolution as a model IS the threat to their dictatorial and parasitic power, duh!), and
the people of saudi, egypt, and the rest of the arab countries consider Israel and the US to be the biggest threat.
for NYT, the king IS the saudi arabia, and the people of saudi don;t count.
surprise!
the struggle is
the global financial elites and their political shills
VS
the people of the world.
the parasites and their shills correctly recognize the people as their enemy.
it's about time that the people realize who their enemy is, too.
there's no hope without international solidarity.
I hope everyone understands all of the derivative benefits that not prosecuting the Bush administration for Iraq and torture still provides for the current administration.
If they would have prosecuted for false intelligence etc. then the NYT would have been front and center of the shitestorm for acting as a megaphone for the neocons - Judith Miller et al.
Can't break up the vast propaganda network that took the CIA decades to build up now can we?
But since none of that happened all the news that's fit to spin or fabricate just goes on and on and on.
No surprise at all. The "New York Times" are the same gang of Neocon propagandists who spread the obvious lie that Iraq had WMD.
NYT is full of Neo-Liberals, not neo-conservatives. both heavily jewish.
the really important news in the wikileaks release is that gates, clinton, and possibly obama --if he did micromanage the honduras coup and its aftershocks-- committed a felony by conspiring to undermine the enforcement of an american law and by suppressing a well-argued and documented denunciation by a usa government official, in the embassy of the usa in honduras, that a fact punished by american law, a coup d'etat against a democracy, had taken place.
because of their behavior after the honduras coup, gates, clinton, and possibly obama have made themselves *impeachable* for violating their oath to defend the american constitution and make any possible effort to respect and enforce the laws of the usa. [and congrats to lanny davis!]