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Domestic Terrorism or Tax Revolts?
In 1786 and after hearing about the tax revolts occurring throughout the newly formed United States of America, Thomas Jefferson, who was in France, claimed such rebellions were good things...and it was medicine necessary for the sound health of government. On the other hand, Samuel Adams believed that those who had rebelled against the laws of a republic and were committing treason and should suffer death.
These differing views came to mind when a software engineer launched a suicide attack against the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). After setting his home on fire, Joseph Stack flew a small plane into an IRS building. Evidently, the tax rebel, or domestic terrorist, was unable to find work, had zero income, and did not file a tax return. As the IRS tried to collect taxes, he accused them of cannibalizing his savings and retirement funds.
Stack believed the government was not interested in justice, but only concerned about financially bailing out America's corporations, its plunderers, and pompous political thugs. He accused law makers of becoming rich cronies, liars, and thieves that sought their own self-interests while ignoring corporate atrocities. By crashing a plane into an IRS building, he wanted to wake people up to government-sponsored draconian tax laws.
During the tax revolt, or act of domestic terrorism, the Pentagon scrambled two F-16 jet fighters thinking it was a terrorist attack.
After the American Revolution, state legislatures collected taxes to pay for the war. Taxes fell most heavily on poor farmers, most of them veterans. Many were unable to pay and as states seized land, cattle, and harvests, thousands of veterans, along with poor farmers, revolted. While some tax rebels burned down court houses, others mass-petitioned judges and prevented courts from adjourning and taking away their property.
On major tax revolt was led by Daniel Shays, who fought at Lexington, Bunker Hill, and Saratoga, and was wounded in action. He found himself in court for nonpayment of debts and was threatened with being sent to debtor‘s prison. When the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts met and indicted him and other leaders of the movement for being disorderly and seditious, Shays organized 1,700 men and marched to the court.
Wealthy merchants quickly funded and raised their own private militias. They pressured state legislatures to suspend Habeas Corpus and passed the Riot Act. Shay's Rebellion was crushed, as were many others. While several leaders of the tax revolt were executed, wealthy property owners accused the British of stirring-up farmers. Shays returned to a live of hardship and poverty.
Tax rebellions were the main reason for the U.S. Constitution and the establishment of a strong central government. General Henry Knox, who became Secretary of War as a result of the Constitution, wrote, "Our government must be braced, changed, or altered to secure our lives and property." Under Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, the very first power is collecting taxes, duties, imposts, excises...for the common Defense and general Welfare. Other powers mention raising Armies and declaring War.
Since no one could hold state office without being a wealthy property owner, the U.S. Constitution inherited the potential for an abusive government controlled by the wealthy elite. In fact, the Constitution excluded men without property, women, slaves, indentured servants and Native Americans. Some warned that the Constitution was a tyrannical document of the Few, and it only deepened the divisions of class, race, and gender.
Currently, the Many pay taxes on income, property, purchasing goods, fuel, and on services like education, water, electric, gas, waste disposal, phone, cable, etc... While many Americans are unemployed or losing their homes, it was just reported that General Motors Company CEO, Ed Whitacre, will receive a salary of $9 million this year. It is now estimated too that the wealthiest 1% of Americans now own 70% of the nation's wealth.
Ron Moore, of the Houston Examiner, uncovered how Whirlpool, which recently received $19 million from the government to stimulate the economy, will move its manufacturing plant in Evansville, Indiana to Mexico. Over 1,000 people will lose their jobs. Although it took many decades for the Bill of Rights to apply to the Many, there is still no reference to economic rights, which only concern the Few. This is why the first $700 billion stimulus package went to subsidize financial institutions, bankers, and corporate conglomerates.
Many laws and institutions in America have tragically failed, becoming structurally unjust and violent. It was regrettable that after spending his entire life working and trying to save, Stack believed violence was not only the answer, but the only answer. But then again, so does the present-day State. In a society that teeters on the brink of corporate domination and people power, monarchy and democracy, and tyranny and liberty, there will always be the freedom to do good or the freedom to be abusive for one's own selfish gains.
Jefferson believed that from time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.(7) As in 1786, experts on the Right and Left will debate if this incident was a tax revolt or a domestic act of terrorism. Just like the current War On Terror, they will more than likely ignore the root causes of dehumanization, economic poverty, and loss of human dignity. However, one thing was certain: "Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let's try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well."

63 Comments so far
Show AllTrying to make Mr. Stacks suicide into a political statement to suit your own views is a mistake.
The man was simply insane. Not a terroist, not a political protestor, just looney tunes. Let it go is my view.
B.S.! It WAS a statement and I don't see how anyone can see it any other way. Back someone, ANYONE, into a corner and watch what happens. People who knew this man vouch for his sanity, kindness, and mental health...until a few weeks before he took action. Maybe MORE ACTION is necessary by "keyboard protesters".
I don't condone what he did, nor would I suggest anyone else do the same BUT if you can't understand the anger, frustration, and hopelessness of someone in his financial position being "terrorized" by a heartless entity called the I.R.S., then you must still be a child or very wealthy.
If Mr Stark was dumb enough to try to incorporate his house as a church or skip out on paying corporate taxes then the IRA wouldn't have 'terrorized' him.
Although it you are of the position that businesses shouldn't have to pay taxes then i guess you and Mr Stark see eye to eye.
"I don't condone what he did." Vernon Hunter was his name. A 68 year old man who was about to retire from the IRA and go back to school to get a teaching degree so he could help children with learning disabilities. Yes, he certainly deserved to die at least according to Mr Stark.
I do have one question, it seems people here believe that Mr Stark's death has served a higher purpose, that somehow what he did will bring about a positive change or at least start a movement for one. How does murdering Vernon Hunter bring about something good?
Hi steel grey gray 12:06 -- I see this issue is important enough to have you working on Sunday.
I suggest if you want to be taken seriously you start railing against the deaths of the many Vernon Hunters that die every day in Afghanistan.
In case you have not noticed " Mr Big Government Pysch-Ops" most posters agree with Joe Stacks analysis but NOT his resolution.
He suggests those women and children killed in Afghanistan dont "count" because they are "mistakes".
The tens of thousands killed in Iraq was a "Mistake" because the USA made an error when they claimed Iraq had WMDS...therefore it doesnt count in Steel_grays world.
It rather hard to reason with such a person.
GwNorth February 22nd 2010 11.am
Yup. Nothing can be added.
"IRA" -- steel_gray
Didn't they reside in Ireland?
Just checking!?!
I assume you ask, "How does murdering Vernon Hunter bring about something good?" thinking it a rhetorical question that "can't be answered".
The answer:
By "serv(ing) a higher purpose, that somehow what he did will bring about a positive change or at least start a movement for one."
>>I do have one question, it seems people here believe that Mr Stark's death has served a higher purpose, that somehow what he did will bring about a positive change or at least start a movement for one. How does murdering Vernon Hunter bring about something good?
We ask that question all the time when the United States of America murders people by the tens of thousands in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan
Most people are able to recognize that civilians killed in crossfire or by mistake are different then civilians killed by premeditated intent.
Our criminal justice system recognizes such.
This does not make the deaths any less tragic.
It's interesting that you compare the deaths of civilians in Iraq to death of Mr Vernon but yet you have made countless statements with great emotion against the war and yet you make no similar denouncement against Mr Stack's actions.
The weak 'i don't agree with his actions' isn't a denouncement but rather a half hearted brush off.
Just something to ponder..
ps. i never said everybody i said some people.
>>Our criminal justice system recognizes such.
No the criminal system does NOT recognize such.
First you have to demonstrate that Mr Stack knew who was in the building at the time and show that he intended to kill that person.
You can not do that.
Secondly , cases of drunk driving and the like where others kill clearly demonstrate there no need to show an intent to kill.
Thirdly. In cases of arson where multiple peoples killed no intent to kill need be demonstrated.
Indeed in a local case a judge made that very clear. A Perp had set abalze a home in which 4 children and a mother killed. Theclaim of the defense was the one you make in that he did not INTEND to kill the children and that the target of his attack was another person whom he feared. The judge ruled against indicating that any person who set fire to a home had to know the flames would NOT discriminate between intended victim and "bystander".
The same would apply to dropping bombs on homes something you support whole heartedly.
Fourth I have not made any statement in support of Mr Stacks actions. Indeed my only statment regarding this was one where I pointed out his act of Violence would only lead to the erosion of Civil liberties.
That said.
In Afghanistan I support the right of Afghanis to reists the occupation of their lands by foreign powers. The United States Governmnet and the member nations of NATO are the agressors here having no business being there.
While I do not think it has reached the point yet in the USA where violence by the Citizenry against an oppressive regime called for or his helpful, the day might well yet come.
I take it you support the "Right to bear arms" ?
Are you stating that said right is premised upon them NEVER being used Against ones own Government?
Just something to ponder.
You obviously are ignorant when it comes to legal theory.
1. A charge of murder only requires intent. Mr Stack intended to kill the people in the builind. He said so in his suicide note. Not knowing the identity of the person you are killing doesn't mitigate the charge. When he directed his plane into a building he was comitting an act of murder and he is also guilty of some 190 counts of attempted murder.
2. Killing a person while driving drunk is not the same as murdering someone with Malice Intent. A DUI murder charge is based on the legal theory of Reckless indifference. A person acts in such a way that they endangered the lives of others.
Killing someone while driving drunk isn't an act of intent. BIG DIFFERENCE.
It's because of the multiple natures of murder that we have a teired system. 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree, manslaughter, ect. The Criminal Justice system here and around the world recognized that state of mind is a mitigating factor.
3. Arson can be considered 1st degree murder. Under the reasonable person standard, if a reasonable person would realize that bodly harm would reasult form the action, an Arsonist would be charged with 1st degree murder. Of course it is the state law that determines culpability. Which state you live in obviously has different laws than Texas and California. In Tex and Cal if you commit arson and as a result a purson dies then you are guilty of a capital offense. It would seem your state lawmakers need to fix their law books.
I do not support the bombing, i think that if we are going to carring out the offense in Afghanisan then we need to dramitically increase the troop levels and all but halt the air attacks. Besides the moral the moral tragidy these civilian deaths bring there is also the undeniable strategic loss that comes with every civilian death.
You shouldn't make assumtions by the way.
Again i said some people are supporting Mr Stack although, when you started attacking my post, you were giving defacto support to Mr Stack.
The Afghanistan government is working with the Nato troops, thousands of Afghan soldiers are involved in the offensive. If you support the Afghan goverment against foreighners then you are supporting the Nato offense!
You really need to check your logic.
If you remember the posts that were traded on this site after the SCOTUS ruled against Wash DC on Handguns you'd remember that i do suppor the right to bear arms-i support the US Constitution. And yes i stated then as i will now that the principal reason for the right to bear arms is for the population to protect themselves from the government.
This does not grant permission to go around killing people because you don't like your tax bill. If the government were to grossely violate the constitution and the courts refused to act then the people should rise against the government. If a president refused to leave office after the term ended for instance.
An armed rebellion does not occur everytime your government does something you dont approve of but there are certain red lines. Kent State of example.
I hope we never have to face a day where such lines are crossed.
>>You obviously are ignorant when it comes to legal theory
You claim I am ignorant of legal theory and then repeat everything I said.
>>Under the reasonable person standard, if a reasonable person would realize that bodly harm would reasult form the action, an Arsonist would be charged with 1st degree murder.
Are you now suggesting that the persons dropping Bombs on houses and on Convoys of Civilians are not REASONABLE?
Any person can make the conlcusion that dropping a Bomb into a crowded area, a convoy of cars or a home in which peopl elive will kill EVERYONE within the blast radisu and not just the person for whom it intended.
Thus by your own words people dropping bombs on Homes and Convoys of Civilians are in fact committing murder.
>>Killing a person while driving drunk is not the same as murdering someone with Malice Intent. A DUI murder charge is based on the legal theory of Reckless indifference. A person acts in such a way that they endangered the lives of others
Dropping bombs on taregts when the targets have not even benn identified, firing on crowds of people because you believe one of them is a suspected terrorist, firing drones into buildings where you are not even certain who is inside that building, qualifies as "reckless indifference".
A man went to jail for life for killing three people while driving drunk in the USA. He was charged with 3 counts of Murder.
I see no difference between that action and launching an airstrike on a convoy of Civilians or fring into a crowd of protesters n Iraq.
Good logic Mr North,
And it is my belief that you are arguing with a MIC Pentagon troll. I worked with them for decades. The term "Reasonable man theory" is pure mil-speak right out of the academy. But you see, the first casualty of war is logic (or the truth). The MIC isn't targeting any boogie man. The MIC, just like in Vietnam, is trying to stretch out this war as long as possible. Forty percent of US casualties are friendly fire, just like in Vietnam. Every village in the way, has, by MIC necessity, at least one Taliban/Vietcong hiding in it, just like Vietnam. So there's a lot of peasants to kill. Requiring more and more troops and bigger and bigger budgets. The MIC isn't leaving before 2014 when the TAPI pipeline is slated for completion.
So it's time to ask ourselves: What is the Matrix?
It's the wool that's been pulled over our eyes to blind us from the truth. The truth that we are not asking the right questions as we believe and that we are not in control of the government as many believe. In fact, the same forces that ran Vietnam: Kellogg, Brown and Root, are behind this war and are steering the government as well. The same banks, railroad robber barons and war families that gave us WWII and most of the wars last century are behind this one yet again.
But alas, all we progressives can do is scratch the surface, and confine our arguments to ones of statutory law and superficial morality. We know the ruling oligarchy does not believe in morals or laws as we do. We must, therefore, publicly expose the identities of the Elite men behind the curtain, if we are to get anywhere at all imho.
James R. Bath - Notorious Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International seen on Wikipedia on 10/28/09. Steered Salem Bin Laden to invest in Abusto Energy started by GWB.
Brown Brothers Harriman & Co: investment bank controlled by Bush memebers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Brothers_Harriman_%26_Co. Seen on Wikipedia on Oct 28, 2009
On January 1st, 1931, Brown Brothers And Company merged with Harriman Brothers & Company, an investment company started in 1912 with railway money. Its initial partners were:
W. Averell Harriman
E. Roland Harriman
Moreau Delano
Thatcher M. Brown Sr
Prescott S. Bush
Granger Kent Costikyan
Louis Curtis
Robert A. Lovett
Ray Morris
Knight Woolley
When Time magazine announced this merger in its December 22, 1930 issue, they noted that of the company's 16 founding partners a total of 11 were graduates from Yale University. Eight of the ten initial partners (all except Moreau Delano and Thatcher Brown) were members of Skull and Bones.[3]
The new firm shifted its emphasis from investment banking to commercial banking, investment advisory services and custody.[citation needed]
In 2003, the company's headquarters moved from 59 Wall Street, which it had built and occupied since the 1920s, to the Marine Midland Building at 140 Broadway.
[What I'd like to know, is if the Brown in Brown Brothers Harriman is related to prime minister Gordon Brown? Anybody know?]
And:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Trust_Association Seen on Wikipedia seen on 10/28/09.
The Russell Trust Association is the business name for the New Haven, Connecticut based Skull and Bones society, incorporated in 1856.[1]
The Russell Trust was incorporated by William Huntington Russell as its president, and Daniel Coit Gilman as its first treasurer. Gilman later went on to become president of the University of California at Berkeley and Johns Hopkins University before leaving to become the first president of the Carnegie Foundation. Gilman also served as one of the first board members of the Russell Sage Foundation. Gilman's summer home in Maine is listed as a National Historic Landmark.
In 1943, by special act of the Connecticut state legislature, its trustees were granted an exemption from filing corporate reports with the Secretary of State, which is normally a requirement.
From 1978 onward, business of the Russell Trust Association was handled by its single trustee, Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. partner John B. Madden. Madden started with Brown Brothers Harriman in 1946, under senior partner Prescott Bush, George H.W. Bush's father.
On its 2004 Form 990, the Russell Trust Association reported $3,205,143 in net assets.[citation needed]
The business and political network of the Skull and Bones is well detailed by Hoover Institution scholar Antony C. Sutton in the exposé, America's Secret Establishment. Social organizations connected to the Russell Trust covert activities network include Deer Island Club, which also operate as a corporation. UNQUOTE
When I get around to it, we will continue with Kellogg Brown and Root which I think it morphed into, and many of the wars for profit this group has been involved with. What stands out is a pattern of over-billing the taxpayer in a system of outsourcing and no-bidd contracts. As voters and taxpayers, we have a say in how this government spends and conducts it's affairs. We must never give up our right to discuss and comment on information that is in the public domain.
The above is all just my opinion only.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Reasonable man theory originated from Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes and last i check Justice Holmes was no Pentagon stooge...though i'm sure you're gonna have some rabid conspiracy theory stating he was.
I wait in anticipation...
duplicate, see next post
O.K. steel_gray,
Where is your link? When I make a claim, I provide a link and I provide an opportunity for others to decide for themselves, or to refute my claim.
I am not familiar with your reference, and I am providing you an opportunity to prove your statement.
If I am wrong about you and your substance, I will provide a heartfelt apology.
The ball is in your court sir,
TJ
P.S. There's no conspiracy, I merely provided items that are in the public domain and are undisputed as they have been sitting there for ten years or more. Your are free to verify everything in my post.
Dropping bombs on houses that are believed to hold Taliban fighters is not the same thing as flying a plane into a building you know holds civilians.
You're intelligent enought to see the difference.
That being said, i've already told you i agree that the bombings need to stop. What the government considers exceptable collateral damage is far too much for my tastes.
You need to reread what i posted b/c i most certainly didn't repeat what you posted.
I know they charge a drunk driver with murder if he/she kills somebody but it isn't 1st degree murder! Follow?
Mr Stack is guilty of First Degree murder and over a hundred counts of attempted murder and for some reason there are SOME people on this progressive website that want to give him a medal for it.
Again i just saying ya'll look pretty hypocritcal.
Aaah, but the 'civilians killed in crossfire or by mistake' seem to be in the minority. Take this last week and the killings in Afghanistan. Perhaps 33 people today fleeing the 'liberation' in three vehicles and McChrystal says how sorry he is, they 'thought' they were targetting the enemy. 'Thought'???? Pretty casual with lives. And that is the third major error already (that is known about.)
'Clearing' an area sounds pretty much like another euphenism for killing.'Bomb, bomb, bomb ...' comes to mind.
Iraq, up to a million and a half dead since 2003. Most simply 'not productive to count' (Kimmit) non-people. Then there's Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Guantanamo. The torture and deaths were not cross fire or error. People summarily eliminated, no trial, no justice.
The US and UK are looking alarmingly like the rogue states our parents or teachers warned us about.
"Back someone, ANYONE, into a corner and watch what happens." -- Kucinich2012
Like you, Kucinich2012, I don't condone the action, but I certainly understand the action!
Thanks, too, for your post, jclientelle, about your family/grandmother's experiences in dealing with the IRS.
Breaking people beyond their ability to cope in society hurts all of us, demonstrating beyond any doubt that empathy, compassion, sympathy and humanity are lacking in most, if not all, government agencies -- yet, these agencies are funded with tax dollars, and therefore, when necessary, "we the people" should be able to ask for and receive assistance without being criminalized, i.e. fingerprinted, etc. by the very same systems we fund.
For decades, we have witnessed countless mostly white men walk into various offices/shopping malls, etc., across this country, often after having lost a job, pull out a gun, or guns, and fire at random, killing anyone who is in the way of the bullets. More often than not, the man then shoots and kills himself. Following the shock of the murders, the perpetrator is labeled by the experts as a "lone crazy," but is the answer really that simplistic? Regardless, we are talking about broken men, broken by a brutal system similar to what Ken Kesey refers to in his novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest as "The Combine."
In 1960, Mr. Kesey worked in a mental institution at night while he attended school during the day. In an introduction to the 1962 book for its 40th anniversary, written in 2002, Ken Kesey wrote that "More was revealed in a human face than a human being can bear, face-to-face." In the book, he wrote, "The ward is a factory for the combine. It's for fixing up the mistakes made in the neighborhoods and in the schools and the churches, the hospital is."
One of the characters in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest stated, "It was a feeling that the great deadly pointing forefinger of society was pointing at me -- and the great voice of millions were chanting, 'Shame, Shame, Shame.' It's society's way of dealing with someone different."
Now, I'll jump to William H. Whyte's book, The Organization Man, written in 1956 -- page 31: "In the 1984 of Big Brother one would at least know who the enemy was -- a bunch of bad men who wanted power because they liked power. But in the other kind of 1984, one would be disarmed for not knowing who the enemy was, and when the day of reckoning came the people on the other side of the table wouldn't be Big Brother's henchmen; they would be a mild-looking group of therapists who, like the Grand Inquisitor, would be doing what they did to help you."
Anyone who has watched the Adam Curtis documentaries, The Century of the Self and The Trap, among others, will be able to connect the dots! Public relations firms are aligned with psychologists/psychiatrists, and in turn, they are aligned with our government at every level (military, economic, education, health -- mental and physical, etc.) not to serve "we the people," but to manipulate "we the people" -- to fragment us into smaller and smaller groups, ultimately disconnecting and isolating people from society, leaving most of us somewhat powerless to effect serious change.
Is it any wonder that desperate people commit desperate acts?
Joe Stack was clearly a broken man, done in by his circumstances and his own attempts to deal with what seemed to be a deck stacked against him. Like many people backed into a corner he had no choice BUT to fight. Being an intelligent man he decided his last act must send a message. The result we know.
What we will never know is what might have happened if he choose another way to get his message out. Then again, could he have made it any more public (though the website posting the "manifesto" went down rapidly it had been copied already)? It was a horrendous choice to end one's life, but it might mitigate it somewhat if that death was not entirely senseless, as too many are. Stack went out with a bang -- that's more than most of us will NOT be able to say.
Gary
"Beliefs are what divide people. Doubt unites them."
-- Peter Ustinov
Your name should be Mendacium, not Veritas. You are lying when you say that anyone is trying to turn his death into something it isn't. No one is turning his suicide into anything. By his own statement, written by his own hand, his death is a political, economic and social statement. The only thing left is for you to either agree or disagree.
By the way, unless you've had some ongoing psychologically therapeutic relationship with Mr. Stack, your assertion that he's...what was that technical term you used...looney toons, is pure opinion and means nothing.
I imagine that you and your overlords would love nothing more than for Joe Stack to just disappear, just like the damage to that IRS office will disappear with some new drywall, glass and metal. The very thing that drove him to commit his final act hasn't disappeared and thus, neither will Joe Stack. I say to you, in my own opinion, that he is merely the first-fruits of a harvest this country has spent hundreds of years sowing. Just you wait.
Have you read it? There are many cogent observations therein. His action was looney tunes and wrong, since it killed innocent civilians. Not everyone knows how to use their rage as a source of power rather than destruction. It just exploded.
Joe
Joe, you write :"..it was wrong since it killed innocent civilians." Surely, implicit in this is that: "It killed innocent AMERICAN civilians." America is killing innocent civilians in their uncounted thousands, across the globe, bomb first, ask questions later. It uses destructive power, not even from rage, but from avarice for resources other countries have, which they could trade for and buy, rather than kill for.
Thank you, Jassim, for proving my point. Violence surely works. Too goddamned bad that it's only the avaricious, murderous, power-mongering, bestial enslavers that are willing to stand up and fight for what they want. The rest of us are left with, "Being the change we want to see".
I mourn both the deaths of Joe Stack and Vernon Hunter. The real and substantive change that must happen will take many more lives before it's completed. The aforementioned greed heads won't give up until either we're smoked or they are. Disregard this truth at your peril.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Derrick Jensen's "Endgame, Vols I & II". He implicitly discusses the need for counterviolence by progressives. Get an education and drop the platitudes, people. The time for talking is just about done, if not completed already.
There is no such implication. Why would you think that? Because I come from a redneck background? I spend an awful lot of work and time protesting the killing of innocent civilians in many countries by US armed forces. And, sadly, I have been outraged, anguished and doing this for 45 years.
Joe
The question of Mr. Stack's " brand " really does seem rather shallow to me. What isn't though is the argument that all of us are paying for something we don't want or think is wasteful, corrupting or unfair. Grinding axes against state tyranny is an old tradition in America. What concerns me today and should upset all taxpayers is the capricious use of the tax code to game the system we all pay into. The current tax code is thicker than a Hong Kong phonebook and just as hard to decipher for most U.S. taxpayers. In its' mystery lies the magic of madness and arbitrariness that drives people like Mr. Stack. An educated person in this country should not have to resort to the expense of CPA's and tax attys to understand the theory behind progressive taxation. The real problem is the system isn't progressive for those able to buy exemptions, it is crooked. Also, the article doesn't even mention the underground economy where at least 200 billion dollars in taxes goes uncollected every year. Eyes-wide open taxpayers see this and gain new appreciation for the term, " hoodwinking ".
"It was regrettable that after spending his entire life working and trying to save, Stack believed violence was not only the answer, but the only answer. But then again, so does the present-day State. In a society that teeters on the brink of corporate domination and people power, monarchy and democracy, and tyranny and liberty, there will always be the freedom to do good or the freedom to be abusive for one's own selfish gains."
I think this is the key to this thoughtful piece. Not worthy of the dismissive comment above.The US and UK are manifest proof that the state is out of control and can kill, invade, with no legitimate authority, where ever and when ever and clamp down on the struggling, hard working of their own citizens, either to pay the bills for doing so, or because they have no compassion for them. All America was founded on in fine words (and dead indigenous peoples) lie any way in the dust, on both counts.
Wake up. Actions have consequences. At home and abroad.
Mr Stack's eloquent suicide message is not, as has been written, the ramblings of the deranged, it is a scream for the soul of America.
But was Stacks completely loopy? No. He was not. He WAS insane to think that suicide was his last option possible. But in his suicide note (see here: http://tinyurl.com/yfxx33f )he made some very valid and intelligent pints. This was a very smart man. hardly a backwoods gun-nut tax protester ala Freemen.
This could indeed spark a larger tax revolt. If I were paying income taxes (too poor) I'd be royally pissed so much was going to fuel the war machine, among other things. Stack's problems became obsessive and all-consuming. But they are common problems and this action may resonate.
Dismissing Stark as merely a nut is a big mistake.
Gary
"It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."
-~ Lenin.
If the Revolution was fought because of taxation without representation, then what could be more evil than our fascist, governments, miasma of wars, killing, bombing,bribery, torturing, and assassinating in our name, and using our taxes for these extraordinary, unconscionable acts of evil! All American citizens that pay taxes for these egregious military endeavors are culpable. The majority of Americans are good people that are either politically, sophomoric ( who would not normally support what is being done in their name, if they knew the truth) or the millions of good citizens who do not support this perdition, but have little or no choice in the matter. Talk about taxation without representation!!!!
Two aphorisms come to mind:
'A man with nothing to lose has nothing to fear.'
'Never frighten a little man. He will kill you.'
Excellent Excellent article:
One point of edit, enslaved peoples not slaves.
And one must understand the Whiskey Rebellion in which armed trans Appalachian small farmers marched on Washington ( foiled by an informer) in response to Hamiltons intentionally high unpayable tax on their stills. The farmers could only profitably farm and transport their grain over the mountains in the form of whiskey. Hamilton wanted to create a labor pool for and eliminate competition to industial distilleries on the seaboard.
Hamilton purposely bankrupted trans Appalacian small farmers with exorbitant Taxes and used the force of arms and violence to enforce his big industry goals.
Joe Stack was articulate and accurate. The worse he could be faulted for was expecting justice and resorting to violence when he should have just downsized and removed himself from the system.
His problem was his idealism and naivity, which perhaps resulted in a nervous breakdown or just a violent desperate act.
My grandmother became a moonshiner to supplement her income from gardening, ironing and chicken raising after her husband was killed in a coal mining accident leaving her in the middle of Appalachia, not speaking English, with 5 kids to support - no welfare, no food stamps. My mother told us of visits from the revenuers during which the children were terrified. The tax men never found anything, which is the topic of several droll family tales. But suppose they had been successful and had arrested this widow and placed the children in an orphanage - would that have been justice? I know of some others who drove off the IRS with guns.
The IRS is run to take little from the rich and if necessary drive the poor and struggling to desperation. I believe in taxes, because we need them for many good purposes such as education. But the tax structure is relentless in its pursuit of those least able to resist. Sometimes the hounded ones go crazy.
Poor people and new businesses should be assigned something like a "legal aid" accountant to assist them in dealing with the IRS. The IRS can be just as powerful as the police and prison system in terms of the damage it can do to lives. Only the rich can afford proper professional advice and representation. And the system is stacked in their favor.
Like Joe Stack I once considered turning my family into a corporation. The product would be high quality future American citizens. The deductible business expenses would be food, clothing, shelter, medical care and education. What gave me the idea was seeing all the write-offs for the people who raise race horses. But since I could not sell my children or enter them in races, it never worked out.
Joe
joe great last line, that moonshine did not hurt the genetics any.
A power to tax is a power to kill.
Private Militia/Merchants == Blackwater/Corporations
Riot Act ==== PatRiot Act
Habeus Corpus ==== Habeus Corpus
Cherokee Plane, When the Supreme Court ruled that the stealing of Cherokee lands was illegal President Jackson said " Let the Supreme Court enforce their own ruling"
Thus the stealing of Cherokee lands by the USA and ethnic cleansing Trail Of Tears.
"Well" (to quote Reagan), look what it last took to effect (slight, but Not EVEN lasting) improvement in the US social contract in the 60s/70s (blacks and youth having to "deconstruct" their surrounding infrastructure; getting black liberty and youth draft liberty in exchange)! If we expect something now, it'll take dittoing the ACTION of those decades.
Domestic Terrorism or Tax Revolts
Neither.
Joe Stack is a reflection of what America is.He seems to be intelligent, and reasonable person who thought if he followed the myth of America he would succeed.His explosion the result of following the myth which does not exist.
Slowly fatally he learned that the myth does not exist even though it stared him in the face. Any social safety net for any of his country men included himself was yanked from under him by his government by a "liberal" when welfare as we know it died.
He found himself in a moment of pain and isolation when the forces of the economy set up for some to prosper while the rest suffer came down on his head. Like a greedy home invader his own government attacked without mercy when he was weak and had fallen.
The social ideology of we are all in his together was dismantled with the end of a social safety net. The ideology has become if you do not succeed and prosper you are not worth saving.
Joe thought his government let him down and was attacking him. He chose, although he had other alternatives, to mirror what his government does.
His government gives aid which impoverishes the receiver.His government does not bother with the rule of law it attacks raping, torturing and destroying.It burns it's citizens to death in Waco or the Move house in Philly. Shoots or jails them like at Ruby Ridge, Pine Ridge, or the Black Panthers. It does not care to count or think about collateral damage of a million dead Iraqis or millions turned into refuges. It strikes unseen from high in the air to kill 50 to get one.It cares not for international law or what others think. It has become greed incarnate an expression of the rich for domination and more more more for the rich. It cares not for the unemployed, the sick without health care, whose going through foreclosure, thousands living in cardboard boxes on the street or under bridges. While it bails out rich thieves and enriches the corporations that have destroyed any worth while health care proposals.
Joe did what his government does. He burned down his house so the enemy could not use it and took what he had and smashed it into the cold heart of his government. Is this not after all just what his government does?
I do not blame Joe and think that more of the same will happen. In the twilight, our government has become a vampire sucking the blood of the American people and the resources from the rest of the world to serve the rich who dominate our system of governance.
Although I know this type of act will be repeated I hope that with or without violence we can rip the reigns of our government from rich bastards and return them to the hands of the people. It can only be an improvement from what we have become.
Abe 1:29 Good post except the seemingly accepting violence at the end.
Snark Alert:
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It's all the meany Repugs fault Democrats are very niiiiccce.
I do not support violence to any end.However, in American history or what I have seen in my life America turns on others or it's own many times with a violence.
To grab the reigns non violently requires a very large segment of the people to stand up and do non violent acts to force change. With the police protecting the rich, media and the eduction system bowing down to the rich it is hard to think that such a mass of citizens will stand up. Meanwhile many Americans are being cornered like Joe Stack. The result is predictable.Even worse that many Joe Stacks get together and act as one.
Well put Abe. Our government is a vampire...how true! Dracula needs the innocent blood of its own people and the innocent blood of people around the world in order to stay alive. You have to wonder how long before it gets a stake driven through its heart!
Apparently i'm missing something and i mean besides the S key when typing.
Mr Stark went on this homicidal rage when he came to his wits end over the IRS's hounding him for his repeated attempts to skip out on paying taxes.
Believe it or not gleen ford but we do see eye to eye on some issues and one of those is corporate taxes. Businesses need to pay them, all businesses.
Mr Stark thought he didn't have to pay 'em and the tax man showed him just how wrong he was. Then he tried to argue that his house is a church. So he doesn't like the Catholic Church, he's entiltled that opinion, but only a deluded person would think they desereve a tax break b/c an institution they don't like gets one.
You are picking a terrible symbole for your movement here.
Also your analogy with the war is slightly flawed. Mr Starks actions put him in the company of the soldiers who committed the Al-Mahmudiyah killings. I don't know of anyone who has defended those soldiers actions. If there were ever a case that deserved the death penalty it is those 5 soldiers.
All I know is his note which says he followed the law just the same as large corporations that were not prosecuted. I believe the IRS cannot seize your primary dwelling.
Joe Stack was a manned Drone. All the USA military in Iraq and Afghanistan are on the same moral ground , except some who are extremely naive and think they are protecting the fatherland, they have no personal motive except a paycheck. Joe Stack had a personal and Social Motive but he did not make a dime off his actions.
Again Steel Grey you need to recognize few posters are supporting his resolution only his analysis, where you get your details from I do not know. Maybe thats part of your job.
Steel Grey how many websites must you work at one time?
At least try and get his name right. It's Joe Stack.
Can't we get some petagram trolls in here with a sense of humor? If we're paying for you to post all day, can't we get some quality for our tax dollar? Eh chameleon? A troll picking on a troll. It's disgusting.
Stark, as in "Stark Raving Mad".
Get It?
I thought "Mr. Stark" was a pretty funny slight. Yes this big oppressive Federal Government drove this little small business owner stark raving mad. Poor fellow. His real crime was not having a monopoly with 100 K-Street Lobbyists looking out for his crimes. He just wanted a level playing field like we all do. Failing to achieve that, he devolved down to their level. He aspired to be a robber baron and they handed him his own head.
We don't need a Big Federal Government anymore. Let's cut it down by 90 percent and then we citizens at CD can just talk amongst ourselves and the concept of "self-government" which my country was founded on can return. I don't need "mil-spec" government or "spook-run" government, just "self-government" by the citizens thank you very much.. Don't worry. The Big Boogieman on a Camel is not going to come get us. (He is a product of a forgotten CIA operation in Afghanistan anyway, Operation Cyclone, a figment of American Imagination. ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
We need another good Republican President like Teddy Roosevelt to come riding in and break every company up that's bigger than say twenty million dollars. Failing that, since their hasn't been a Good Republican leader for one hundred and ten years, we need a Boston Tea Party where we throw everything from all the chain stores into the harbor or into the street for trash collection. Don't forget the MonINSANEto grocery stores masquerading as food sources while you're at it (All they sell is diabetes, cancer and heart disease.)
Let's confiscate the wealth of anybody over ten million dollars and try to repair some of the damage these tax cheats have done to the USA.
How about it? Whose with me?
one... two.... hmm...
As long as the 1984 telescreen is hypnotizing everybody with American Idol, we're screwed.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
President Jackson said " Let the Supreme Court enforce their own ruling". This country has been a travesty of freedom and democracy all along.
What Joe Stack did was tragic and the desperate act of a desperate man. I think of the third world farmers who set themselves on fire when our subsidized exports bankrupted them. Now desperate times are coming to our country.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
I'm glad he did it. I'm glad he left a suicide note on the web.
steel_gray writes above:
"... Vernon Hunter was his name. A 68 year old man who was about to retire from the IRA and go back to school to get a teaching degree so he could help children with learning disabilities. Yes, he certainly deserved to die at least according to Mr Stark."
His name was not Mr. Stark. And it is the IRS, not the IRA, an "error" you repeat in your post. Meanwhile, consider this: Why the hell is a 68-year-old man still working (for the IRS ostensibly) and intending to go back to school so he could "help children with learning disabilities"? What "journalist" made up that hokum? He probably had a statue of Mother Theresa in his living room. Half of recent college grads in the field of "special needs" can't find work in their field, while probably half of Mr. Hunter's grandchildren can't find work at all.
Remember the scene in Jurassic Park where the guy is trying to hunt down the dinosaur and just before he gets eaten, he remarks, "Clever girl"? That's how I feel about "terrorism."
Relevant here also:
* Two thirds of American tax payers hire tax consultants to help file their returns, yet most are not in complex tax situations. Why?
* An evening news report within the last couple of days (I think it was ABC but might have been CBS) stated that Homeland Security had neglected to regulate small airplane conduct. BILLIONS and BILLIONS of TAXPAYER dollars wasted on that bloated corrupt agency, and all Mr. Stack had to do was radio from his plane to the control tower, something like, "I'm going up." No flight plan required. (Of course, this lax regulation enables the CIA and other smugglers...)
Oh the irony!
OTOH, Mr. Stack evidently burned down his own home, leaving his wife and child without shelter. He could have planned it better. He was obviously confused and alienated from his own better angel. Also a spoiled narcissist on Prozac but notice how the MSM absolutely NEVER report what prescription drugs loonies were on...no cause & effect, dontcha know.
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The popular definition of democracy is a system of government in which power is vested in ordinary citizens -- that is, the plebians -- who rule either directly or through freely elected representatives. The author of this piece hit on an essential truth when he wrote:
"Since no one could hold state office without being a wealthy property owner, the U.S. Constitution inherited the potential for an abusive government controlled by the wealthy elite. In fact, the Constitution excluded men without property, women, slaves, indentured servants and Native Americans. Some warned that the Constitution was a tyrannical document of the Few, and it only deepened the divisions of class, race, and gender."
The irrefutable truth of the matter is that the U.S. government is, and was always intended to be, an abusive entity controlled by the wealthy elite. The wealthy elite, after all, were the ones who actually *wrote* the Constitution in the first place. Protecting their wealth, power and lives of privilege at all cost from the ignorant rabble was clearly the uppermost concern in the convention delegates' minds. And why wouldn't it be? That is, after all, merely elemental human nature, to put self-interest ahead of all other concerns.
The reality that too many of us dance around, and steadfastly refuse to acknowledge, is that "government of the people, by the people, for the people" is and always has been merely a convenient myth, and the true nature of our government from its inception has been much more in keeping with this caustic critique by Clarence Darrow:
"First and last, it's a question of money. Those men who own the earth make the laws to protect what they have. They fix up a sort of fence or pen around what they have, and they fix the law so the fellow on the outside cannot get in. The laws are really organized for the protection of the men who rule the world. They were never organized or enforced to do justice. We have no system for doing justice, not the slightest in the world."
Essentially the patrician class has established a system of government in this country in which, though the plebians possess the outward trappings of power, the true actuality of power is vested in the patricians alone. Until and unless that dynamic is addressed and altered, the reality of America will continue to be a nation of sheep ruled by wolves.
Stack was a Teabagger 2.0
T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T
Please don't go all simplistic on us.