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To Save the Republic, Tax the Rich
For all the laid-off “Joe the Plumbers” who share the Right’s fury
about the “class warfare” of imposing higher taxes on millionaires,
there is this hard truth: the rich don’t need as many of you as they
once did – and taxing the rich may be the only way to make the economic
system work for you.
Indeed, the surplus labor of everyone from factory workers to
bookkeepers is fast becoming the biggest structural problem facing U.S.
society. Even an economic “recovery” is unlikely to put millions of
unemployed Americans back to work, at least in any meaningful way.
That’s because in today’s brave new world of high technology and global commerce, many blue-collar and white-collar jobs can be done more cheaply through computerized automation or by low-cost overseas labor than by American middle-class workers regardless of how much retraining they get.
So, whenever the current recession ends, many Americans who lost their jobs or had to take severe pay cuts are not likely to make up lost ground. Unemployment and under-employment are almost certain to stay high, and those lucky enough to have jobs will have to work harder, faster and longer than before.
Already, most of us scramble to make ends meet, with fewer protections in the work place as unions shrink, with the 40-hour work week disappearing for many, with cell phone and e-mails putting us on call virtually 24/7, and with retirements postponed sometimes indefinitely.
This era’s great irony may be that those of us who grew up watching “The Jetsons” or similar representations of the future didn’t see this bleak future coming. We thought technological progress was going to mean more free time for the human race – to play with the kids, to read a book, to travel or to just take it easy.
Instead, technology has contributed to making our lives more slavish and more brutish, especially when job loss is combined with lost health benefits and endless pressure from bill collectors.
Yet, while the middle- and working-classes have seen the American dream recede, the upper stratum of the super rich have watched the benefits of the high-tech global economy flow disproportionately into their stock portfolios and trust funds, creating wealth disparities not seen in the United States since the age of the robber barons.
The tiny fraction at the top – the richest 0.01 percent – has fattened its collective income by 400 percent, adjusted for inflation, over the past two decades. While this trend was accelerating from 1980 through 2008, the Republican-dominated federal government aided the wealth concentration by cutting income tax rates for the wealthy.
Prior to Ronald Reagan’s presidency, the top marginal tax rate (the percentage that the richest Americans paid on their top tranche of income) was about 70 percent. By the time, George H.W. Bush left office in 1993, the marginal rate was at 31 percent – and the U.S. budget deficit was exploding.
To get the deficit under control, President Bill Clinton and the Democratic-controlled Congress took the politically dangerous step of raising the top marginal rate to 39.6 percent, a move that contributed to the Republican congressional takeover in 1994.
Still, the Clinton tax hike helped get the federal budget back into balance and led to a projected surplus so large that policymakers fretted about the complications that might result from the U.S. debt being completely paid off. However, when George W. Bush took power in 2001, he immediately resumed the Reagan-esque push to reduce taxes, especially on the rich.
Under Bush-43, the top marginal rate was cut to 38.6 percent and then to 35 percent, contributing to another record surge in the federal deficit. By the time Bush left office in 2009, the U.S. government was hurtling toward a $1.2 trillion deficit and the Wall Street financial bubble – inflated in part because of huge bonuses and other compensation – had burst.
Yet, President Barack Obama and the congressional Democrats feared a replay of Election 1994, so they passed a $787 billion stimulus package and implemented costly bailouts for the Wall Street banks without seeking any immediate tax increase. The result has been a further worsening of the federal deficit – and the Republicans accusing the Democrats of fiscal irresponsibility.
Any discussion of raising taxes on the rich – like the House plan to apply a surtax on the wealthy to help pay for health-care reform – brings howls of protest from protectors of the elites. The Washington Post’s neoconservative editorial page denounced the surtax as a case of “soak-the-rich.”
However, even the Post’s editors acknowledged that “a serious case [could] be made that the U.S. income tax system should be more progressive.
“The average rate paid by the top 1 percent of households shrank from 33 percent in 1986 to about 23 percent in 2006. At the same time, the share of adjusted gross income claimed by that highest-earning sliver of American society doubled, from 11 percent to 22 percent.”
Joe the Plumbers
Beyond the predictable defenders of privilege, however, many average Americans still support Reagan-esque tax cuts even when those policies have amounted to “class warfare” against the middle- and working-classes as well as future generations who are getting stuck with the bills.
This is where “Joe the Plumber,” a mid-30-ish Ohio man named Joe Wurzelbacher, comes in. Though Wurzelbacher wasn’t even a licensed plumber last year, he became Sen. John McCain’s symbol of an American everyman, someone whom the 72-year-old McCain called “my role model.”
In the closing days of Campaign 2008, Wurzelbacher launched his strange rise to national stardom by chatting along a rope line with Barack Obama about his tax proposals, specifically Obama’s plan to lower taxes on middle-class Americans and raise them on people earning more than $250,000.
Wurzelbacher said he was considering buying his boss’ company, which he thought might make slightly more than $250,000 and thus might see a rise in taxes under Obama’s plan.
Obama responded by noting that any tax increase in that case would be slight and arguing that his tax plan would help America’s embattled middle class because it would “spread the wealth.” (Later, Obama noted that the vast majority of small businesses don’t clear $250,000 and almost no plumbers do.)
Nothing in the Obama-Wurzelbacher exchange was very remarkable. In effect, Obama was reiterating the century-old case for a progressive income tax that assesses higher rates on the well-to-do than on those with modest incomes.
It was a concept famously advocated by McCain’s earlier Republican role model, President Theodore Roosevelt, who in his New Nationalism speech of 1910 sounded far more radical than Barack Obama.
“The really big fortune, the swollen fortune, by the mere fact of its size, acquires qualities which differentiate it in kind as well as in degree from what is possessed by men of relatively small means,” Roosevelt said.
“Therefore, I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and in another tax which is far more easily collected and far more effective, a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate.”
However, McCain – who apparently had swapped his old role model (Teddy Roosevelt) for his new one (Joe Wurzelbacher) – accused Obama of “socialism” because of Obama’s support for rolling back tax cuts for the rich.
McCain’s campaign began labeling Obama the “redistributionist-in-chief,” a charge that the Democrats finessed during the final days of the campaign but appear to still fear. The Obama administration has shied away from seeking outright repeal of Bush’s tax cuts, instead favoring letting some of them just lapse next year.
That reluctance to tackle the issue of tax increases – and Obama’s practical political decision during the campaign not to aggressively defend his “spread the wealth” idea – meant that the argument about the need for a greater government role in diverting some wealth from the top downward has been deferred.
Important Debate
However, it may be the most important debate for the future of the United States and the health of the American Republic. If the government doesn’t intervene through its taxing authority to redistribute some wealth that now is concentrating among the ultra-rich, programs aimed at protecting the environment, improving education and providing health care likely will fail.
The American public already is resisting the idea of expanding the federal debt, which translates into passing on the bills to future generations. Obama also has promised not to raise taxes on hard-pressed, middle-income families.
The only other choices are to delay urgent action on the environment, education and health care or to raise tax rates on the rich, the likes of those Goldman Sachs employees who – after the bank benefited from federal bailouts – are expecting $900,000 in average compensation this year.
However, beyond the populist outrage over the size of Wall Street bonuses and other excesses of the super-rich is the simple logic that the federal government is the only entity big enough – and the tax structure the only means powerful enough – to divert some of the wealth at the top downward to pay for needed programs and to create needed jobs.
Government spending also is the only practical way to redistribute the extraordinary wealth created by technological productivity and global trade so those twin developments can benefit the broader population and keep the economic wheels spinning.
This spending could focus on pressing needs, like renewable energy, public transportation, improved education and accessible health care. But of equal importance, it could provide today’s “surplus workers” with meaningful work so they can pay their bills and support their families.
A more equitable distribution of wealth could benefit the Republic, too, since politicians might be less enthralled to big contributors and big business.
As Justice Louis D. Brandeis noted more than 60 years ago, "we can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
But first the American people will have to decisively reject another famous quote, Ronald Reagan’s paradigm that “government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”
The public will have to recognize that sometimes the government can be a necessary part of the solution.
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Show AllIf Obama wanted the US to go bankrupt how would his actions be any different?
The Bush twins didn't go to war. Obama's girls are in private schools. Neither family was poor enough to worry about medical bills or insurance. Now when I see Obama flash that big smile I suspect he he thinking 'I'm one of the big boys now'.
You promised to be the president of all the people Obama. Are you sure you haven't decided that the problems of the poor have nothing to do with you now?
I see you are p[aying attention to what Obama is really doing, not what he is saying.
With respect to employment, keep in mind that for years Republicans and Democrats kept telling us that the recovery from the 2001 recession was a "jobless recovery".
Although the housing bubble provided a spike in the number of employment opportunities in housing-related jobs, overall job growth was among the poorest ever recorded and most of the new jobs paid less than the jobs that disappeared.
Home equity loans kept many workers afloat.
In view of the money Obama is showering on the financial industry and will soon be showering on the insurance and pharmaceutical industries ("health care reform") we will see another "jobless recovery" where stockholders in select industries do very well and workers keep falling further behind as they have for nearly 40 years. Without home equity loans its doubtful that many workers will stay afloat.
As the rich would say, "Destroy everything before taxing."
I'll take that idea but I would like to also advocating reducing wasteful spending. And before anyone calls me a Republican, I'm referring to wasteful spending on things like wars, bailing out W$, subsidizing corporate agriculture at the expense of persecuting small farmers, etc ...
There would be a logical means by which to increase tax revenue; but it would not be popular. In the income pyramid, there are lots more at the base than at the pinnacle. My plan would be to institute a tax structure that retains the progressive rate structure, but removes the 0% level. That is, to eliminate the ability to pay zero taxes. From an investment perspective, it would give all a stake in the game. I'm not saying tax minimum wage earners at 38%, but allow all to participate in the funding of our country we should modify the tax rates to have perhaps a 5% minimum income tax. Not so much as to be oppressive, but enough to materially participate in the country. Like I said, it would not be popular ~ but it makes sense to have all invested in the cause.
There is not more money at the 'base' of the 'income pyramid', taxing the poor would not bring in much wealth but it would cause more people to lose their homes. Even if you made them pay a token amount of say 1 percent of their income in income tax. I'm not sure about all states, but some of them do have sales taxes do they not? Can you not see that the poor in those states at least end up paying some tax? As the rate of tax paid by the rich went down, the taxes everyone else pays has gone up (or the debt/deficit did, which means that your children will pay for your ignorance)
The top 10 percent of the us population have well over 60 percent of the wealth of the nation. It's not money they've got through any sort of hard labour, they got that level of coin available because their parents or grandparents worked harder than they've ever done. I'm not opposed to rewarding a person for their hard work, but I don't like the idea that because your parents worked hard you don't have to.
The rich of the Americas are trying to form themselves into an aristocracy, should we really let them do that?
The rich should not be allowed to establish an aristocracy. Neither should the poor be excused from participating in income tax revenue. There is a discontinuity of logic when the few pay over half their income, but some pay NONE of their income. Do you get my point about participation in the running of our country? I feel that by paying taxes, we each are participating in the running of the country. It is our duty to do so. Some can logically and rightly pay more than others, and I support that. I disagree with the idea that some should pay none.
[ Neither should the poor be excused from participating in income tax revenue.]
If you earn less than 10k a year, you're lucky if you can keep a roof over your head and enough food in your stomach to ward off starvation. A tax rate that took even a hundred dollars a year from them would mean that they'd starve for a week or more. Or they'd have to steal food in order to survive, not a good idea.
[There is a discontinuity of logic when the few pay over half their income, but some pay NONE of their income.]
Those few do not pay over half of their income. Re-read the article, the top tax rate is down to 35 percent. They're cheating on what they really owe. The rich benefit the most from the resources of the gov't. They get the fastest response from the police, fire or ambulance services. The best of care at the hospitals, best service in restaurants, best seats at the theatre. The army will fight wars to ensure the profitability of their businesses.
[Do you get my point about participation in the running of our country? ]
I'm Canadian, so I was raised to believe that the key to participating in the governance of the country was the vote. Taxes are something that we pay because we want to live in a civilized society. Lower taxes mean the roads aren't paved, the hospitals don't get funded, the water isn't clean, bridges will collapse, etc. You are part of the gov't, so when arsehats like Reagan say that the gov't is the problem he's really blamed the citizens of the country for their ills.
Believe it or not I'd rather everyone does pay some taxes, I don't like the idea that the drug dealer can get away with earning thousands and not pay a dime of tax on his business. I hate the fact that there are corporations out there who pay less in taxes than some of the poorest citizens because they can hire a good accountant that saves them the bother of taxes. I also hate the idea that neither Canada nor the States has a living wage, that would force everyone to pay income taxes as they'd have enough to live and to pay their share.
I hate when "progressive" articles buy into outdated terminology. The author mentions "middle-class" vs. "working class". What? Does that mean middle-class folks are so well off that they don't work? That's crap.
But the main issue is this whole paradigm of "taxing the rich". Nothing's ever going to happen until that phrase goes away. The whole idea needs to be rebranded into "being patriotic and helping ones fellow citizens". So that the rich see themselves as helping others versus getting taxed to death. Benefactors vs victims.
Once they have become uber-rich, it's a little late to try to educate or socialize them.
Teddy R had it right, tax policies should be structured to prevent the emergence of such an uber-class.
But it remains to be seen whether tax policies will be sufficient to eliminate such a class, once it has entrenched itself and essentially bought the government.
To save the REPUBLIC lets start by getting rid of the MOB Ruled Democratic idea, which this country was NOT founded on, and let us return to the LAW of the Land, aka the United States Constitution.
as the song goes, "I Pledge Allegiance, to the Flag of the United States and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands..."
Then let us Abolish the "federal" reserve and repeal the Income tax (which Ironically was created the same year as the "federal" reserve - 1913 - under the cloak of secrecy)
Let us stop spending BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of Dollars FIGHTING WARS of Imperialisation!
Let us also stop sending BILLIONS of Dollars to ISRAEL to BUY WAR MACHINES to Massacre the People of GAZA With.
And Lets END The WAR on DRUGS which is a waste of BILLIONS of dollars more while also being a front that is actually bringing the drugs into this country.
If we were not wasting this money we would not have a deficit like we have. If we were taking care of our own nation instead of trying to Police the World, we would NOT be in such a mess!
Have Your Congress people support HR1207 and Senators S604 to Audit the "federal" reserve - and lets get to the bottom of this mess w/o raising anybodies taxes!
or if we are going to raise taxes how about we raise the taxes of Obama and Geithner and Summers and the Clintons and the Bushes and Cheneys, etc etc etc
"The whole idea needs to be rebranded into "being patriotic and helping ones fellow citizens". So that the rich see themselves as helping others versus getting taxed to death. Benefactors vs victims."
Part of the problem is that they don't care about helping anyone but themselves. This is the parasite class that gorges on the blood of one host until it is dead, and then moves to another to do the same. That (and inheritance) are how they become so filthy rich in the first place, not by caring about how others fare. The only way to get these folks to carry their fair share of the load is to make the alternative a whole lot worse.
What Republic?
It well past time to accept that the U.S. is an Empire, not a Federal Republic. The idea that Empires are always purely autocratic or oligarchic needs to be dropped as well.
The Roman Senate met throughout the Imperial Period.
The British Empire only really got started in earnest with the partial usurpation of the Monarch's power by the elected Parliment.
The U.S. started as a Federation of Republics, yes. But the slide toward centralization and beuracratization that leads to Empire in such Federations began before the War for Independence was even over, colored the post war politics, influenced the Constitutional Convention, and only grew in pace and strength after that.
By the time the Civil War was over, the U.S. had become an Empire in all but name. The destruction of State democracy called "Reconstruction" amply bears this out.
We need to get past the childish wishes of boomer "liberals" about the state our United States are in, and start dealing with the reality.
We are Citizens of an Empire.
Empires are typical State forms, and not evil on the face of it.
We would, however, want two major things to change:
1. We would like our Empire to cease all the wars and contract back to its territorial extent by abandoning the "overseas" hegemonic areas.
2. We would like the territorial Empire itself to either revert back to the Federal Republic that it was intended to be, convert into a EU-style Fedration of States, or even dissolve into the many independent States that it really should always have been (from a cetain POV).
2a: Failing this, we would like to see more democracy in the territorial Empire -meaning more looking out for all, instead of the wealthy few. Perhaps even leading to a social-welfare State a la the former European Empires of Britain, France, Germany and Sweden.
A continent-spanning State of almost 300 million people, with territories and areas of influence throughout the Globe, is NEVER going to be the Democratic, Federal Republic that our political indoctrination classes taught us it was in school. There are contradictions to this in such a State's very structure.
The sooner we grow up and deal with this truth, the sooner we can begin to effect real change for the better.
Oh, and taxing the rich is a good idea too. ;)
-matti.
Well said.
Thank you.
Sioux Rose
I'm tired of hearing about this $787 billion stimulus, when figures suggest upwards of 4 trillion ($) went to "save" the banks and AIG. Between that egregious "expense account" to the rich gamblers at the Wall St casino, and the funding and upkeep of 700 plus bases, added to wars that benefit a small circle of pro-war entrepreneurs, there is PLENTY of money to be spread around if the priorities were those that held the remotest regard for the public's well-being. It's all about priorities!
Hear here! it's over 1000 bases Rose! peace
Exactly.
"This era’s great irony may be that those of us who grew up watching “The Jetsons” or similar representations of the future didn’t see this bleak future coming."
I saw it clear as a bell when Nixon devaluated the dollar. I saw it when the IRA and the 401K came along. My relatives and friends said that I "thought too much". And Mr. Perry is wrong about most people "not seeing the bleak future". The propaganda of a bright future was deliberately foisted on them so they would not see it. Since the gilded age made fortunes for people that controlled machinery and mass production, it was clear that a BIG (basic income guarantee) type economic structure should be set up by the government. With all this robotic power, each rich person becomes a productive superman and the average person becomes a bug to be squashed. This is the formula for the death of a civilization. They never learn.
Just heard yesterday that Gates want to add another twenty thousand soldiers. Obama shrinking the military? Hardly.
“soak-the-rich.”
That should read 'soak the SOBs who've been robbing us blind for decades.'
Notice how we hear nothing anymore about closing all the tax loopholes only the 'rich' get to slip through - anyone who believes the 'rich' actually pay their 35% per year needs to put the pipe down.
What happened to closing all off-shore tax havens?
And what happened to stopping this: "Though the corporate tax rate is 35 percent, the IRS found that the 10,000 largest corporations paid only 20.3 percent of their profits in federal income taxes."
Oh, right, very sorry, I forgot: "Frankly, they own the place."
Tax the rich?
Well, yes and No.
Eliminate them by returning to the early 1950s taxation levels while enacting a law stipulating no one can earn a salary greater than the president's 200K.
The president makes 400k/year, not 200, btw.
Sounds excessive. Merely returning to 1950s taxation levels would be sufficient.
Do you feel this would stifle and diminsh innovation?
Steve Jobs is a very wealthy guy because of his spirit of innovation. I like that he has made money and wish that someday I might have that kind of inspiration.
It's great that guys like Jobs and Gates donate tons and tons of their cash to worthy efforts ~ and it's even better that it's done voluntarily on their part. That part I like. However, to take that same amount of cash from them involuntarily and then have some bean-counters decide where it's going to go?? Not so excited about that.
Personally, I admire those who have achieved through their own efforts and their own achievement. It's a good thing and I think America ought to encourage it, not discourage it.
It's even more than that: "The President earns $400,000 per year, along with a $50,000 monthly expense account, a $100,000 non-taxable travel account and $19,000 for entertainment." [Wikipedia] So the POTUS "earns" over 1 million/year. Capping incomes at this level is appropriate, IMO. The most I made in a year was about 50K, in 1987 dollars. [Close to 100K now, only @20 years later!!]
When talking about the rich, I always suggest students read Veblen's "Theory of the Leisure Class," and Carnegie's essay "The Gospel of Wealth" as the necessary basis for a discussion on the subject. Then for fun, I have them read Bellamy's "Looking Backward: 2000-1887" before we even start talking of Marx. After all that, we take a field trip to see several farm labor encampments, and now the homeless Bushvilles that are sprouting everywhere.
The rich are parasites, and the NBA really doesn't give a damn.
I was just going to suggest Bellamy's Looking Backward. I'm reading it now and I have to say, it's an amazing book. We all know that we need to do something and I say, if we don't do it together and for each other, we're fucked.
Personally, I subscribe to a Georgist/Social Credit POV. We have to ensure that food, health care, education, and all of the basics are human rights, not goddamn commodities. Personally, I have no problem getting the same as everyone else, as long as we all have what we need to have good lives. Fuck this individualist 'Amerikan Tradition'. That excuse is used to hold us down, each and every time.
Better to cap net worth yearly, direct democratically, to control extreme concentration of power too.
Make the cap inversely proportional to population growth to give a large incentive to reduce it.
THINK OF A SOCIETY WHERE EVERYONE PARTICIPATES.
Population stabilization, we can no longer provide for endless immigration. Create a path to citizenship for those who are here now,provided there is registration within three months after that, no more immigration.
Our foreign policy should be contingent on other countries providing for their citizens.
Send the bill for providing services to the new immigrants to their respective country of origin.
Lets start where the richest man in the world lives Mexico
for all of you that have read this before,"in some other time and forgotten space"
AFTER TONIGHT THERE WILL BE NO MORE POSTS
We were all so fried by the bush years,Obama appeared and suddenly Hope burns eternal.
Apathy disappears maybe sixty percent of the country feels the chance, for change to manifest. There's still hope because the machines that manipulates the demographics has left a little wiggle room.There are at least two states that can go either way,it's not a sickening forgone conclusion,the democrats have a chance.The republican party
with its almost total control of the media, and its psych-opts, made a mistake. The Afro- American,Hispanic,youth vote ,have come together along with the Progressive vote, and ordinary citizens who normally would be out of the loop,collectively we feel the energizing vibrations of a better world arising. Obama ,will reflect the Love , compassion,joy , justice that we feel and be the instrument of change that manifests the higher qualities of the citizens of this country.How much sweeter is the fact that it will be an Africian American.
ALAS.........
PLEASE EXCUSE THE FACT THAT I INCLUDE A POST FROM ANOTHER THREAD.
I feel that my time on this planet is coming to a close, and since what was written in the other thread applies to all the threads that have been written, please allow me my parting thoughts.today will be the last time I post, so let me think that my dream has become reality, thank you for your compassion.
I love each and everyone of you !!!!!!!!!!!
namaste
Again, sorry for accidently posting a response to the"WAS CARTER RIGHT"thread on this thread.
I also thank Thom for educating me on the tax issue.
In fact I thank all of the authors who have posted on this site, as well as those who have added to the subject matter,and kept the site honest by their posts.
Quickstepper.............Sorry that you thought I was drunk when I posted to the "WAS CARTER RIGHT" thread.
And I'm sorry that you found nothing of value posted.
So I ask you Quickstepper, can you imagine how the world would function without money.
Eight year olds have offered a system,a person with your Progressive knowledge should not have a problem.
Also I ask, ........how do you translate the knowledge and passion expressed on this web- site, as well as every other kindred-spirit site,into IMMEDIATE ACTION
Not waiting for a third party,or the continuous posting of the problems and not working on immediate solutions.
As we all know ,there may not be time to solve some of the issues, global warming et all.
I am only offering the easy part,"CITIZEN CENTRAL" THE heavy lifting has already been done , by you all.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings,we have yet to close the deal,the opposition knows this ,and is trying to destroy it all, before we collectively get our shit together.
We don't have forever!!!!
If we build "CITIZEN CENTRAL" WE CAN INSTANTLY TURN THE SHIP OF STATE AROUND, AND COLLECTIVELY EXPERIENCE THE JOY OF GOING
IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.
This is my last post on the subject my e-mail is
thetribe2009@live .com
Taxing the rich is unfair.
The proper response to this is, "what is fair about BEING rich? And how deserving are the poor?" There's nothing fair about our fates, nor can there ever be. You make a left, and go on to a bright future. You make a right, and get hit by a train.
But societies have a chance to be fairer than individual lives can be, and reasonable societies understand that progressive taxation is one of the mechanisms to address unfairness in individual fates. Granted, the rich are often smarter and harder working than the poor. But, mostly, they are luckier. They took a left instead of a right. Progressive taxation is a chance to take luck out of the equation, to some degree, and afford all citizens a right to a growing pie, not merely the lucky.
Many who oppose taxing the rich are from rural America, where the myth of rugged individualism holds sway. But a glance at the taxes paid versus gov't spending paid back on a state to state basis tells the whole story: rural America doesn't even come close to paying its way. Instead, it relies on Blue-state urban America to OVERTAX itself and chip in the overage for rural highways, bridges, electric lines, and other government-mandated infrastructure and services. And no one denies that the big winners under a nationalized healthcare system would be rural America. Its easy to claim you don't believe in taxing the rich [blue urbanites] when you have been benefiting from this very situation for 80 years, unawares.
Largely true for the small to average fry, but for the truly great fortunes, diverting public resources into private hands was/is required.
Taking it back seems fair to me.
Soak The Rich
"Why?"
"That's where the money is."
"Otherwise?"
"There won't be enough money for health care for all and many of us will die."
"Cause of death?"
"Greedy rich people and a cowardly president and congress."
"Why isn't President Barack Hussein Obama calling for increased taxes on the rich?"
"He caves at the first sign of any resistance to change."
"Which makes change impossible?"
"Exactly?"
"The answer being?"
"We rise up en masse?"
"And then what sort of world?
"It's up to us."
Hillary has a better solution to save a Republic gone bankrupt as a result of the excesses of the filthily rich and corrupt warmongers and blood-suckers. Two minutes ago, in a speech in Indonesia, she fired the first shot in a scenario having as template the Bush spin arond WMDs to invade Iraq. She said that the US is ready to pride a 'security umbrella' for the Gulf States to counter Iran. The ultimate aim is, of course, to grab Iran's oil
Who asked her for that?
The latest I heard from the ordinary workers of the Gulf States was that they want America to be totally absent from the region. Their parents were also desperately praying that their still-immature children do not get tempted to resist an evil sower of discord and hatred through jihadist violence.
I also make the same fervent prayer. And against all evidence to the contrary, I am hoping that she did not deliberately undermine Shushilo Bambang's increasingly shining image in the world, by provoking those who sympathise with the crazy idiots who detonated bombs in Jakarta a couple of days ago.
Reagan brought the warped idea that the people who do not have money should pay the taxes and the wealthy should not pay taxes because they use their money to make more money and in the process, create jobs.
We have reached the obvious end of that mistaken idea. Government is broke and the country is falling apart.
We have to go back to the sensible idea of getting tax money from people who have money and using it to provide a good society for all.