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US Citizen Diplomats Arrive in Iran, Invited by Ahmadinejad
In an effort to establish peaceful diplomacy with the government and people of Iran, and to model for the new Obama administration the power of cooperative good will, three highly regarded American peace makers have ventured to Iran. CODEPINK cofounders, Jodie Evans and Medea Benjamin, along with former Army Colonel and decorated Foreign Service Diplomat Ann Wright, are visiting Iran on visas coordinated by the Fellowship Of Reconciliation, which similarly organized the September 24th meeting in New York City between civilian leaders of the American peace movement and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
In that historic citizen diplomacy gathering, Iranian President Ahmadinejad met with approximately 120 representatives from American peace and social justice organizations, where over the course of two hours, he took unfiltered questions from the groups. The question from the women of Codepink, who travel extensively on missions of peace, addressed why the organization's founders were repeatedly denied visas to Iran. Ahmadinejad promised to remedy the situation and provide the women their visas. Thanks to the efforts of the Fellowship of Reconciliation, working in consort with the government of Iran, visas to Iran were issued on Monday to Benjamin, Evans and Wright. Seventy-two hours later, these intrepid citizen diplomats were packed and on their way.
I caught up with Evans yesterday on her stop-over in Frankfurt and asked her to explain the intent of her mission. She replied:
"We're traveling to Iran to strengthen our connections with as many groups as possible in the areas of government, culture, education, women and, of course, peace. We've come to deepen our work as citizen diplomats to model the type of diplomacy we HOPE to see from our new government."
With the Bush administration's unrepentant militarism over the past eight years, preferring destruction over discussion and war over words, and with Bush refusing to meet with his contrived opponents unless antagonistic preconditions were met, it's fallen upon citizen diplomats to pursue and model the adult diplomacy this nation needs. Thus Evans, Benjamin and Wright, who understand that peace is achievable, that ALL war is failure, and the salvation of the planet is at stake, valiantly took up the task.
For the past three years, Medea Benjamin, author and internationally recognized human rights advocate with Masters Degrees in Economics and Public Health, has been denied travel to Iran - even though Global Exchange, the San Francisco-based global justice organization she founded with husband, Dr. Kevin Danaher, has sent groups to Iran every year. Still, Benjamin was never deterred in her efforts to visit Iran or in her desire to model the diplomacy needed to promote understanding. With the Bush administration soon to exit and the Obama administration coming in, Benjamin has new hope for more conciliatory relations between the United States and other nations. When I asked Benjamin about the purpose of this mission, she wrote the following from Iran:
We hope the Obama administration will begin direct talks with Iran - without preconditions. On this visit to Iran, we are modeling the policy we would like to see. We're meeting with pro- and anti-government groups. With religious and secular people. With environmentalists, women's groups -- a wide swath of the Iranian people. We hope to take their messages back to the US, and find creative ways to expand people-to-people ties. Our motto is "Let's talk!" which has tremendous resonance among Iranians, who are all anxious to promote dialogue and avoid war.
Indeed, CODEPINK's current campaign, directed at President-elect Obama, is simply called, "Let's talk!" It's a wide-ranging invitation to the incoming President to be ALL-communicative and ALL-inclusive. It calls upon Mr. Obama to be the great communicator he's capable of being and to use his formidable skills to dialogue with ALL the world's leaders, absent the egocentric preconditions of his predecessor. "Let's talk!" is similarly a resounding invitation to the President-elect to meet with the individual members of peace and social justice organizations who worked so hard to elect him. It calls upon Mr. Obama to show these American patriots, who like him, opposed the Iraq war from the start, the same respect they were shown by the President of Iran who gave them his time and took their unfiltered questions. "Let's talk!" invites Mr. Obama to be The People's President and take the opposite tack of his predecessor who not only refused to meet with anti-war patriots, but scorned their love of country.
It IS after all love of country and love of humanity that embolden organizations like CODEPINK and individuals like Medea Benjamin, Jodie Evans and Ann Wright, to travel thousands of miles to Iran to speak on behalf of peace. Undeniably, idle time and lack of commitment ensure less complicated lives. But these heroes amongst us are committed to changing a world at war to a world at peace. It's about stopping the next war now!!
Today from Iran where these peace makers traveled, I received this informal message from Evans who was clearly captivated by her day. Consider that this message is from a woman who's been to over 80 countries; to every continent on the globe; who served in the cabinet of the Governor of the largest state in the union; who ran two Presidential campaigns; and who sits on more Boards than any person I know. This is the exhilaration she felt after her day as a citizen diplomat, modeling communication, understanding and compassion. You know - just being an American intent on keeping peace:
We are just back from a fantastic day. Memories of our first days in Iraq almost 6 years ago strike us as we walk the streets, enter buildings and Medea and I share a tiny room with twin beds. But no call to prayer at 4 in the morning outside our window like there was in Iraq.
I came down from the bedroom this morning for breakfast and we were swept away and now just returning at 10pm. It began when Rostam Pourzal arrived to ask what we wanted from our trip. Immediately he was on the phone with friends. Habib Ahmadzadeh soon arrived - a filmmaker who tells the story of war.
Habib told us we take too literally the words, "Death to America" or "Death to Israel." They're meant to describe the policies of the US government or the Israeli government which seem very much like apartheid in South Africa. He said that the majority of Iranians are anti-war. He repeated what I've heard so often from Iranians: "We aren't warlike. We don't invade people. We only defend ourselves."
Habib talked about his mother's heartache for the American soldiers who died in Iraq. She lost a son in the war and can feel the grief of those mothers. We asked him about President-elect Obama and he responded: "He is a walnut inside a shell and unknown. Hopefully history has taught us how little an individual can do. We need to learn how to rely on ourselves."
Medea asked Habib about Afghanistan, and told him that Dobson [James Dobson, Focus On The Family] said Iran was funding the Taliban. Both Habib and Rostam laughed and said, "Taliban worse enemy of Iran... " We went to his offices and watched a powerful film, "The Night Bus," about the cost of war on everyone, It takes place during the Iran/Iraq war. I was in tears almost throughout. It unflinchingly exposes the costs of war to heart, mind, spirit and soul...nothing heroic or beautiful about war. He says there is a movement in Iran to turn weapons into pens, or ways to communicate. That is why he makes films...
He was in the military for many years and suffers from wounds of chemical weapons until today, so he also works with a group against the use of chemical weapons and the support of those who are suffering from their effects. What a big hearted wise man. In his attempts to show us his films there were technical difficulties and he laughed that Americans thought Iranians could have nuclear weapons. They can't even get high speed internet or get video equipment that works.
At 7pm we were off to a beautifully manicured park, full of women and college age students with a café called The House Of The Artists. The café was rich with conversation and everyone looked as if they were a poet or an artist. A nuclear engineer came over to find out who we were, exclaiming that he was educated at Cal State LA. I asked him how close they were to a bomb. He laughed. Said it would be a very long time.
Soon our table was full of amazing women. Women who work for peace. Most were about our age, had grown children, and had suffered in some way for being outspoken - but were still fearless. Their faces were full of joy and life and the conversation was at a pitch for hours. We began to work on our project of asking Iranians what they would like to tell new President Obama. The filmmaker Rakhashan Bani-Etemad sat in the garden with Medea for about 15 minutes of filming with the camera in the hands of Habib. The generosity of everyone is overwhelming, their time, their stories, their passion....we can't even pay for a meal.
Tonight the students from Miles for Peace who bicycled across the US came at about 11:00 to beg Medea for time to take her to see their Iran. They also told us about their plans for a friend to swim the Persian Gulf for peace, and an agreement they have for the US soccer team to play the Iranian soccer team in April and then 50 Iranian/Americans to come to Iran and bicycle across Iran as they had done across the US.
There is so much more but I am exhausted.
President-elect Obama, Iranians are wonderful people. They don't deserve harm. In my life as an educator, I work with many Iranian adults. My students are physicians, engineers, educators, scientists and more. Iranians living in America are frequently more wealthy than those in Iran today. They left Iran with their riches. Most define Iran by "before the [Islamic] Revolution" and "after the Revolution." They are some of the best-traveled, most sophisticated and generous people I know. Most Iranians I've met, who are naturalized citizens, voted for YOU in HOPE you'd negotiate a lasting peace with Iran.
I also have Iraqi students - but just a few. Of my Iraqi students, one always comes to mind. He's an incredibly handsome young father of a very famous young son. His son was the beautiful five year old boy who was set on fire in Iraq, terribly disfigured, and brought to the U.S. to be treated. The young father is making a life here in America. He smiles and tells me of his young son's progress. About his many operations. In each conversation I feel his sense of pain. In each conversation I feel MY sense of shame.
President-elect Obama, take a lesson from the citizen diplomats who have traveled to Iran. "Let's talk!" Let's stop the next war now!!
Recently in New York City, CODEPINK distributed a faux edition of the New York Times, displaying the headline, IRAQ WAR ENDS! It was enthusiastically received!
Last week in Washington, DC, CODEPINK visited the Syrian, Iranian, Cuban, Venezuelan and Bolivian embassies to deliver doves, apple pies, flowers and cards. All five countries have had strained relationships with the Bush administration. The CODEPINK message to these Embassies was YES WE CAN Live in Peace. As you can see, we're READY FOR CHANGE.
So tell us President-elect Obama, now that you're taking office with your commitment to bring change, when's a good time to talk??
Linda Milazzo is a Los Angeles based writer, educator and activist. Since 1974, she has divided her time between the entertainment industry, government organizations & community development projects, and educational programs.




37 Comments so far
Show AllEvery Persian I've known has been a beautiful, intelligent, talented, accomplished person.
Medea Benjamin should be Secretary of State. Jodie Evans, US Ambassador to the UN, and Col Ann Wright Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. For it to happen, we first have to have a President who not only "wants" change, but can accept it, and is in touch with the geniuses of the times we live in.
I second the above! What a Woman! applies to all three individually.
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Sioux Rose
Well, Jesus, if we had a media that widely reported their efforts, it would do wonders to change minds. Perhaps Code Pink will embarass Obama into that much needed "let's talk" dialog.
Anyone remember Barbara Walters sitting down with Fidel? A charming interview. That big-hearted (if tyrannical in a fatherly way towards his people) Leo was flirting with her, and she seemed to beam under that attentive ray.
I'll take Ahmadinejad over that wacky wabbit weaving office here.
A very inspirational story by Linda Milazzo. I hope Obama will embrace peace as a goal.
Ann Wright has diplomat background, resigning when the Bush administration attacked Iraq. Look at Global Exchange and Code Pink websites. Good luck to all of us who want peace and shall "make noise" about it.
I had persian kabobs for lunch today so delicious. I hope to have them in Iran one day.
I'm pretty disgusted that CODE PINK is "palling around" with a genocidal terrorist like Ahmadinejad. I guess CODE PINK is showing their true colors and they aren't red, white and blue. Apparently they aren't white and blue either, since CODE PINK is comfortable supporting a madman who has denied there was any Holocaust at all and wants to "wipe Israel off the map".
I am disgusted that people as uninformed as you are base your opinions on being uninformed.
He never called to have Israel wiped off the map. That was an invention of the press. Nor did he claim the Holocaust never occurred, again that was propoganda.
PK
What are you talking about?
Yes, the ENTIRE press (except people like Juan Cole and Amy Goodman) have quoted Ahmadinejad as saying that Israel should be "wiped off the map". Even people like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert admit he said that. Get a grip! He said it.
As for denying the holocaust, again, just about every news report says he continues to deny it ever happened. So I see no reason to believe they are all lying, unless you happen to be into insane conspiracy theories. Was 911 caused by aliens? Is Obama a neo-con? Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Joe Hope:look at it this way:he has no power in Iran, although he did get elected. Amy Goodman with Juan Gonzalez asked him directly about it and Ahmadinejad danced around the statements. Noam Chomsky has much to say, www.chomsky.info
I suggest you do a bit more research Joe.
You know I read one report saying obama the Anti Christ, and another claims he is a muslim, a third claims he was born in kenya. Unlike you I do not believe all that I read.
There are no words for "wiped off the map" in farsi..he said Israel will disappear from the Pages of History and he said in the same speech like the Soviet union vanished.
I suggest you stop using translations provided by MEMRI , an organization that is run by the Israelis to deliberately distort what the press is reporting.
PK
I carefully watched Ahmadinejad on Amy Goodman to try to understand what he was really saying. I believe the translator was of Ahmadinejad's choosing, so the issue of what things mean in Farsi cannot be raised. His answers on some questions were astute and on others struck me as convoluted and evasive. He was kind of an Iranian Ari Fleischer. He never said he wanted to destroy Israel, but said that Israel was like a nail in the body of the Mideast that kept it from healing, or words to that effect.
Here is that interview:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/26/iranian_president_mahmoud_ahmedinejad_on_iran
On the Holocaust, I saw him on another program, presumably again with a translator of his own choosing. I was not sure if he said the Holocaust was a myth or rather that it had been mythologized out of proportion to the totality of WW II deaths. It could be taken either way.
His statements on gay people represent denial and are refuted by some gay activists in Iran.
Ahmadinejad is not the only or even the strongest force in Iran. His intellectual failings should not be a reason for pre-emptive strikes on a beautiful old country with all kinds of people. Given half a chance, they will find a better way. Considering our role in overthrowing Mossadegh and our selling arms to both sides and fomenting war between Iran and Iraq for decades, we should leave them alone.
Joe
Sioux Rose
HOPE: The translation was incorrect. If you checked sources that are not in the pocket of the US military-industrial-prison complex, you'd know the FACTS here.
And Code Pink in their efforts for peace-making are far braver than many soldiers who mindlessly follow orders to kill. It takes more energy to MAKE life and sustain it, then to break it down or destroy it. They are trying to get OBAMA to talk to the alleged enemy as Bush pronounced it; but we know Bush lied about a great many things, this "enemy" nonsense included. Iran is made of people like you and me. I applaud the creative efforts of Code Pink to initiate dialog... they may facilitate the saving of countless precious lives!
>>Even people like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert admit he said that. Get a grip! He said it.
Even people like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert ADMIT it? Are they confessing to a crime? These are comedians. Neither mr Colbert or Mr Stewart are knows as critics of Israel.
Look at a map and tell me where Yugoslavia is on that map. The fate of Yugoslavia is what Ahmadinejad said would happen to Israel.
The "All of the press" you refer to also indicated saddam Hussein had stockpiles of WMDS. They were wrong as well. They were and remain a tool of the people who wanted to push the war on Iraq.
I would note that the press has not been all over the recent investigation performed in Iraq of weapons caches found. That report concluded that less then one percent of weapons could be sourced to iran yet we still have people claiming Iran is arming the insurgency.
You have already proclaimed you pledged loyalty to Israel. I have never proclaimed loyalty to iran. You claimed you would "stand by Israel" and were proud to do so. I have never stated I would "stand by iran".
I stand by the truth and I stand against what is unjust. I stand against war crimes and collective punishment. I stand against war as policy. Iran is not a country I find as a champion of Human rights just as I do not find Russia is. That does not mean that I must support lies told about what they say and do.
PK
Joe, Please tell me a one sentence summary of your life--in Farsi.
He did not say wiped off the map.
And he did not deny the existence of the Holocaust: He DID ask, precisely, when the Palestinians had committed it.
9/11 was a Bush Gang caper. Obama may or may not be a neocon--time will tell. And I don't watch Fox News.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
Note contrary to JOehopes claims Juan Cole did NOT report that Irans leader would wipe Israel off the map, He too reported it was a misinterpetation.
Note as well that this same article points out the Holoucaist was never denied. What was said was that if a EUROPEAN country wiped out millions of Jews, a homeland for the Jews should have been made in Europe with a European country giving up land rather then forcing it on Palestine.
GwNorth,
Wrong. I never said Cole got the quote right.
Goodman and Cole contradicted the entire media.
I wrote "the ENTIRE press (except people like Juan Cole and Amy Goodman) have quoted Ahmadinejad as saying that Israel should be "wiped off the map"."
Notice that I said "EXCEPT people like Juan Cole and Amy Goodman".
But then again, given your views on Ahmadinejad, I guess misquoting people is something you're comfortable with.
Folks...
Ahmadinejad was quoting a Khomeini speech which said that the current regime in Israel "will disappear from the pages of history"... Not wipe Israel off the Map...
Whatever the reason for the mistranslation or mistranscription... It has become a meme for folks to associate Iran with Nukes... so even progressive friends of mine believe this Untruth... from a lack of researching it themselves, and the all-surrounding echo chamber on cable TV and talk Radio... Such a subtle and simple psyops switcharoo...
Hey Joe Hope, every country has angels and devils, last I checked , we have spent a fortune protecting Israel in blood and dollars.
Israel needs to do more to gain peace and stability in their region, and as long as we come to their rescue when they saber rattle , they wont do more.
Well , Codepink Gals show us all that there are two sides to every story.
Its quite obvious that the major American media networks are all in on the Bush doctrine of bomb first and let everyone figure out what hit.
The major media networks could have sent reporters to Iran and Iraq to cover real stories, but they didn't.By not doing so, I consider them a threat to real Americans national security. We constantly have to make uniformed decisions regarding our own security, and trust our elected officials for those decisions.
If Codepink can bring revealing stories of Iranian life, then so can our major media networks.
As a matter of fact, there has been a major media black out of Iraq and Iran since the surge, WHY?
So lets have Codpink visit the White house after the traitors vacate the premises and the new sheriff moves in.
By the way, I say all the officials leaving the white have 24/7 surviellance placed on them , I want to know everything they do 24/7.
BornFreemen
Surveillance torture prisoner in Bradenton FL ,, 24/7, 2 years and running.
"we have spent a fortune protecting Israel in blood and dollars."
Would you rather have extremists push Israel into the sea?
With regard to CODE PINK, I prefer the early days of their organization when they refused to criticize the Democrats. Now they are little more than an Obama-hating rabble composed of Left wing extremists. Did you see Rob Riggle's segment on the Daily Show about CODE PINK's attempt to ban a Marine recruitment center in Berkley, CA? That segment proves just how left-of-center they have drifted. Face the facts, CODE PINK is supporting a madman who has denied there was a Holocaust and wants to "wipe Israel off the map". Now that we've elected Obama CODE PINK has outlived it's usefulness.
Idiot ! Codepink has every right to criticize who they want and if the Democrats can't be what they claim to be, they deserve a tough scolding from CodePink. And there's nothing wrong with going against Marine recruitment because Big Military has no business mugging the young in America into a lifeless future. Iran is no threat and has in fact tried to help the US win that "war on terror" but you can't figure it out. I swear, reasoning with you is like trying to teach a pig to sing !
Thanks Linda for the report on the latest Code Pink foray into people to people diplomacy. Let's be honest here both Code Pink and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were using each other for their own purposes.
As far as I am concerned the most important part of this journey was the inclusion of former career army officer and diplomat Ann Wright. While Jodie and Merdea joined hands and wept with ordinary Iranian women, I'll hope that Ann Wright got together with military leaders and diplomats.
Wright is a no-nonsense experienced mideast hand who knows the difference between wheat and chaff, fluff and substance. She also had the integrity to resign her diplomatic post before the Iraqi war in protest to its prosecution. That kind of character speaks even louder than the Muslim prejudice against women doing much of anything in government.
I hope Ann will have her own report of what went on during her part of the visit to Iran and further, I hope she can add some savvy to a certain Secretary of State designate whose chief qualification is that she used to be first lady. Ann Wright for Undersescretary of State for Mideast affairs, why not?
Poet
Poet: What's that line about all roads lead to Rome? (from Caesar's day). There's more than one way to work for peace. Code Pink can do it one way and Ann Wright with them. She has a long military and diplomatic record, resigning from the Bush Admin. (she was in Afghanistan at the time, I think) when "W" attacked Iraq. "Ann" is a bit informal,no? Unless you know her personally? I think she's a retired Col. Yes, I just googled her name and a listing for her appearances came up on www.wbai.org for last February on dissent.
I like your nomination of her. She might be better "on the outside", who knows?
PEACE!!! It is all I've worked, hoped and prayed for for over fifty years, through hot wars, nuclear tests, cold wars and more wars.
Every time I've thought there was a chance for peace, there always seems to be someone in the way with the power to say, "The easiest way is to kill them all and let God sort them out."
Hope, which flared briefly, is fading again. However, groups like CODEPINK give some hope. Wherever things can be done on a people to people level, some progress is being made.
All but a few of We the People of the World want simply to live in peace, to feed, house and clothe our families, provide fresh water and have access to medical treatment. Ten or fifteen percent off the top of the Pentagon's bloated budget could provide that for most of the world's needy (including our own) and still leave the warmongers five or six times more dangerous than any other nation or coalition of nations, but they just want more and more and more.
Unless We the People of the United States take back the power that was reserved to us by the founders of this nation in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and restrict the government to the powers it was limited to in the same document, we will never see the peaceful world that groups such as CODEPINK see by engaging other people face to face, weapon free.
minitrue:Good for you. We have to keep working. Gandhi (nor anyone else) ever said it would be easy.
Hey Joe Hope.
"Would you rather have extremists push Israel into the sea?"
No Joe, I would rather see Israel and the Taliban in Pakistan launch Nuclear weapons at each other.The Bush Doctrines have pushed the Taliban into a country that has nukes.You tell me Joe Hope, who are the terrorists now.
Joe, don't comment on this web site until you search the web for total death counts in Iraq. Or don't you care.
There are accounts of the death toll being close to 600000 men women and children do to this war, and 2-3 million Iraqi people have fled the country. Doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. The country has been intellectually gutted of people that could have rebuilt a real democracy.
But people like you would rather see the same thing happen to Iran, WHY?
Stop drinking the Right Wing Republican Neo-con Lunatic fringe religious self-righteous Kool aid.
Do some real internet searches and read for your self the truth that's out there
is that we have gone to war for corporate profiteers.
Then Bush told everyone to go shopping, and deregulated the Banking industry to make it easy. And , so we have arrived at our own financial self-destruction.
The Bush Lies have destroyed three country's, USA,Iraq,Afghanistan,created greater instability with us and our allies, unleashed Russia,grown the terrorist networks, created a police state in America and bankrupted our global financial system, and the Israel factor has always been used as an excuse.
Forgive me please , if I would rather have an informed decision of what is happening in Iran than listen to people like you,untruthful reporting major media networks and our government.
Go Code Pink, more power to you, and God give Joe hope the courage to seek out the truth about these wars.
Its easy Joe, Google search " total death tolls in Iraq" " bush lies" " 9/11 truth"
There are millions of people that already know the truth.
BornFreeMen
"No Joe, I would rather see Israel and the Taliban in Pakistan launch Nuclear weapons at each other.The Bush Doctrines have pushed the Taliban into a country that has nukes."
I surely hope you are joking when you say that. In fact I wish no one would say things like that.
Lets be clear about something, when I read some of the posts above that indicated there was some doubt about what Ahmadinejad had said, I e-mailed a couple of Iranian friends. They assured me that he denied the Holocouast ever happened and vowed to remove Israel from the face of the earth. I trust them. And if everyone all over the world is saying the same thing except for a couple of people, perhaps they are wrong.
As to Code Pink, I'm not a fan, but they have every right to travel where they please. I'm sure Ahmadinejad will use them.
>>Lets be clear about something, when I read some of the posts above that indicated there was some doubt about what Ahmadinejad had said, I e-mailed a couple of Iranian friends. They assured me that he denied the Holocouast ever happened and vowed to remove Israel from the face of the earth. I trust them. And if everyone all over the world is saying the same thing except for a couple of people, perhaps they are wrong.
I work with Iranians and they claim that he NEVER said such a thing. They said he questioned the use of the holocaust to set a homeland up in Palestine rather then Europe and he said that Israel would disappear from the pages of history.
I would point out that a whole pile of Iraqis who lived outside of iraq claimed Saddam had massive stockpiles of WMDS.
PK
You may have a point there. Every citizen of a country may have their own agenda.
I would point out that a whole pile of Iraqis who lived outside of iraq claimed Saddam had massive stockpiles of WMDS.
And that is an excellent point.
Its like the bible, translations are not always correct when you go back to the original language and some of it inherently bears inflections from the time it was translated.
I take your point and thank you. I'll look into this a bit deeper.
I think it's very clear that Ahmedinejad never said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. Several very reputable sources have shown that the translation of his words was misleading...for obvious reasons. The trigger-happy right-wingers in Israel and in Washington (the Dick Cheney especially) had been desperately looking for a reason to attack Iran. It's cooled off now, though, thankfully.
Below is a quote from an article by Gwynne Dyer, from 28 August 2006 (http://www.gwynnedyer.com/articles/Gwynne%20Dyer%20article_%20%20Iranian%20Cisis.txt)
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But there are a number of holes in this narrative, and the first is
that Ahmedinejad never said he wanted to "wipe Israel off the map." This
is a strange and perhaps deliberate mistranslation of his actual words, a
direct quote from the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the font of all
wisdom in revolutionary Iran, who said some twenty years ago that "this
regime occupying Jerusalem (i.e. Israel) must vanish from the page of
time."
It was a statement about the future (possibly the quite far future)
as ordained by God. It was NOT a threat to destroy Israel. Attacking
Israel has never been Iranian policy, and a few days later the man who
really runs Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, publicly stated that Iran "will
not commit aggression against any nation." While Ahmadinejad continues to
say nasty things about Israel, he too has explicitly rejected accusations
that Iran plans to attack it.
_______________________________________
Ahmedinejad made similar references, obviously, in other speeches and comments about Yugoslavia, etc. are all in the same vein. But there was never a ridiculous : "We want to wipe Israel off the map"! By a country like Iran...with Israel having nukes!?? And US protection!
It's one thing for wild-eyed radicals in Hamas, etc. to make silly boasts like that to energize the peanut gallery listening to them. It's quite another thing for Iran. No question in my mind: However goofy Ahmedinejad might be, he's not stupid. Those people do not have a death wish.
There is absolutely no proof whatever that he said that. Every speech that supposedly said that has been shown to have been distorted in translation. But think of it: the distortions hit the NYTimes, etc., and was tossed around the planet by the MSM everywhere. The opposing (correct) version is limited to a few reputable journalists, researchers, etc.
The 'noise' world-wide of the two competing versions is like a thousand to one in favour of the MSM distortion. It gives the impression that it must be true, because of the echo chamber effect; just like Cheney's distortions before the invasion of Irak.
It's been proven that some lies and distortions came out of his office, through Libby to Miller, and spread around by email, so that after a few days, the echo chamber effect had spread it everywhere from the NYTimes to your local TV, radio, and paper and so people figured: Well gosh durn almighty, I've heard it everywhere; it must be true. All from the same source... result of echo chamber.
I hope this meeting is productive. I believe that Achmedinejad is a brilliant thoughtful human being.
Dear Thomas,
"No Joe, I would rather see Israel and the Taliban in Pakistan launch Nuclear weapons at each other.The Bush Doctrines have pushed the Taliban into a country that has nukes."
Of course I was making a sarcastic statement, but the reality of the new dynamic of having the Taliban in Pakistan makes it very convenient for a new front on the war in another country.
And this country has Nukes. So , the insanity of not pursuing diplomatic solutions with all parties concerned will lead us to Armageddon.
BornFreeMen
Thank goodness! I was sure you were. Let us not even consider the possibility of anyone going into Packistan. BAD idea!
If I had to choose between Ahmadinejad of Iran and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, I'd choose the former as the lesser of the two evils? What say you anti-Iran warmongers out there ?
A better title for this would be "U.S. Useful Idiots and Terrorist Enablers pull an appeasement stunt Neville Chamberlain would be proud of"