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Taking Politics Seriously: Looking Beyond the Election and Beyond Elections
We have nothing against voting. We plan to vote in the upcoming election. Some of our best friends are voters.
But we also believe that we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that the most important political moment in our lives comes in the voting booth. Instead, people should take politics seriously, which means asking considerably more of ourselves than the typical fixation with electoral politics.
First, we won't be coy about this election. Each of us voted for Obama in the Texas primary and will vote for him in November. We are leftists who are consistently disgusted by the center-right political positions of the leadership of the Democratic Party, and we have no illusions that Obama is secretly more progressive than his statements in public and choice of advisers indicate. But there is slightly more than a dime's worth of policy differences between Obama and McCain, and those differences are important in this election. The reckless quality of the McCain campaign and its policy proposals are scary, as is the cult of ignorance that has grown up around Palin.
Just as important, the people of this white-supremacist nation have a chance to vote for an African-American candidate. Four decades after the end of formal apartheid in the United States, in the context of ongoing overt and covert racism that is normalized in many sectors of society, there's a possibility that a black person might be elected president. Even though Obama doesn't claim the radical roots of the anti-apartheid struggles of recent U.S. history, the symbolic value of this election is not a trivial consideration. This isn't tokenism, but a sign of real progress, albeit limited.
But even though we make that argument, we will vote knowing that the outcome of the election is not all that important, for a simple reason: The multiple crises facing this country, and the world, cannot be adequately addressed within the conventional political, economic, or social systems. This is reflected in the fact that neither candidate is even acknowledging the crises. The conventional political wisdom -- Democrat and Republican, liberal and conservative -- is deeply rooted in the denial of the severity of these crises and hostility to acknowledging the need for radical change. Such a politics of delusion won't generate solutions but instead will lead us to the end of the road, the edge of the cliff, the brick wall -- pick your preferred metaphor, but when the chickens of denial come home to roost, it's never pretty.
These crises are not difficult to identify; the evidence is all around us.
Economics: We aren't facing a temporary downturn caused by this particular burst bubble but instead are moving into a new phase in the permanent decline of a system that has never met the human needs of most people and never will. It is long past the time to recognize the urgent need to start imagining and building an economics based on production and distribution for real human needs, rejecting the corrosive greed that underlies not only the obscene profits hoarded by the few but also the orgiastic consumption pursued by the many. We can't know whether McCain or Obama recognizes these things, but it's clear that both candidates -- along with their parties and the interests they represent -- are not interested in facing these realities.
Empire: The way in which First-World nations have pursued global empires over the past 500 years to grab for themselves a disproportionate share of the world's wealth has never been morally justifiable. The recent phase of U.S. domination in that project is particularly offensive, given U.S. political leaders' cynical rhetoric about democracy. But whatever one's evaluation of the ideology behind the U.S. attempt to run the world through violence and coercion, the project is falling apart. The invasions and occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq are not just moral failures but pragmatic disasters. While McCain and Obama have slightly different strategies for dealing with these disasters, neither is willing to face the depravity of the imperial endeavor and neither argues for abandoning the imperial project.
Ecology: It's no longer helpful to speak about "environmental issues," as if we face discrete problems that have clear solutions. Without major changes to the way humans live, we face the collapse of the ecosystem's ability to sustain human life as we know it. Every basic indicator of the health of the ecosystem is cause for concern -- inadequate and dwindling supplies of clean water, chemical contamination in every part of the life cycle, continuing topsoil loss, toxic waste build-up, species loss and reduced biodiversity, and climate change. Unless one adopts an irrational technological fundamentalism -- the faith-based assumption that new gadgets will magically rescue us -- this means we have to downsize and scale back our lives dramatically, learning to live with less. Yet conventional politicians continue to promise to deliver a lifestyle that constitutes a form of collective planetary suicide.
So, we live in a predatory corporate capitalist economy in a world structured by the profound injustice produced by an imperial system that is steadily drawing down the ecological capital of the planet. The domination/subordination dynamic at the heart of this world is rooted in the ideologies of male domination and white domination. This belief in the inevitability of hierarchy grows out of thousands of years of patriarchy, reinforced by hundreds of years of white supremacy. Any meaningful progressive politics also must address not just the worst behaviors that come out of these systems -- the overt sexism and racism that continue to plague society -- but also the underlying worldview that normalizes inequality. Yes, Obama is black, and McCain selected a female running mate, but neither candidate ever speaks of patriarchy and white supremacy.
There are two common responses to the analysis offered here. The first is to condemn it as crazy, which is the response of the majority of Americans. The second, from people who don't find such claims crazy and share the basic analysis, is that we have to be realistic and tone down our arguments, precisely because most Americans won't take seriously anyone who speaks so radically.
But if being realistic has something to do with facing reality, then arguments for radical change are the most realistic. When problems are the predictable consequence of existing systems and no solutions are plausible within them, then arguing for continued capitulation to those systems isn't realistic. It's literally insane.
We live in a country that is, in fact, growing increasingly insane. Fashioning a strategy for political organizing in such a country, and shaping rhetoric to advance that organizing, is indeed difficult. But it must start with a realistic description of the problems we face, a realistic evaluation of the nature of the systems that gave rise to those problems, and a realistic assessment of the degree of change necessary to imagine solutions.
Taking politics seriously in the United States today means recognizing the limits of electoral politics. Voting matters, but it's not the most important act in our political lives. Traditional grassroots political organizing to advance progressive policies on issues is more important. And even more crucial today is the long-term project of preparing for the dramatically different world that is on the horizon -- a world in which an already unconscionable inequality will have expanded; a world with less energy to deal with the ecological collapse; a world in which existing institutions likely will prove useless in helping us restructure our lives; a world in which we will need to reclaim and develop basic skills for sustaining ourselves and our communities.
These challenges are daunting but also exciting, presenting us with tasks for which the energy and creativity of every one of us will be needed. Can we find a way to talk about that excitement which could encourage others to explore these ideas? Can we develop projects to put those ideas into action, even if only on a small scale? When we have tried to articulate this worldview in plain language in recent political lectures and discussions, we have found that a growing number of people not only will listen but are hungry for such honesty.
We don't pretend that number is large right now -- certainly not a majority, and not anywhere near the number needed for a mass movement -- but one wouldn't expect that in this affluent society in which many people are still insulated from the worst consequences of these systems. But that's changing. As more and more people, from many sectors of society, face these realities, they join the search for a community in which to confront this together. Our political work should focus on connecting with people on common ground, articulating a realistically radical analysis, and working from there to construct a just and sustainable society.
So, we will vote on Nov. 4, without hesitation. But more importantly, on Nov. 5 we will be realistic and continue talking about the radical change necessary to build a different world.

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Show AllRock solid Mr. Jensen!
And we certainly should consider deeper forms of democracy that don't require elections or politicians at all!
The most democratic political system would be a parliamentary council of randomly picked citizens who would serve a term of a certain length. Their old jobs would be guaranteed when their term expires, and the pay would be attractive enough that few would turn it down if chosen.
Think of jury duty, but with attractive perks, and no meddling in the selection process by judges or the lawyers.
look into stephen shalom's parpolity or the book Real Utopia
I should give it a look. I'm not a huge fan of Alberts parecon, though.
Why not?
yes! this kind of stuff is so interesting and so fun to think about. also, it demands a re-visioning and re-building of ourselves, our communities, and our worlds, from the inside out and the outside in, simultaneously. which, sadly and counter-productively (to my ends) is why it's so hard for folx to give any credence to. i comment rarely, but read often: i often find your comments insightful and productive. thanks.
Let's all start local and build it up if we're going to get the fuck out of this two party insanity and stand up to being fucked and raped by the corporate/military/religious elites.
on the economic front, the writers said, "It is long past the time to recognize the urgent need to start imagining and building an economics based on production and distribution for real human needs, rejecting the corrosive greed that underlies not only the obscene profits hoarded by the few but also the orgiastic consumption pursued by the many."
Folks can find the effort to do this in participatory economics.
Jensen and Youngblood talk about "this white-supremacist nation"...
I guess Barack and Michelle Obama must have belonged to one of the oppressed minorities in "this white-supremacist nation" right up until...
When?
When Barack was elected to the US Senate by the white supremacists in Illinois?
When Michelle's salary was bumped $200,000 by white supremacists in Chicago as an (immediate) reward for Barack's election to the US Senate?
Was Barack still living in a white-supremacist nation when he got a full scholarship to prep school in Hawaii?
Was Barack still living in a white-supremacist nation when he got a full scholarship to Columbia?
Was Michelle still living in a white-supremacist nation when she got a full scholarship to Princeton?
Were Barack and Michelle still living in a white-supremacist nation when both of them got full scholarships to Harvard Law School?
The answer to all these questions is still Yes Yes Yes according to Jensen and Youngblood, and even after Obama is elected President, all of us will still be living in a white-supremacist nation, because if all of us weren't living in a white-supremacist nation, then...
Hypocritical race-baiting ideologues like Jensen and Youngblood wouldn't be able to get their ludicrous essays published anywhere, not even by the silly little peer-reviewed journals that are the typical venue for hypocritical race-baiting ideologues like Jensen and Youngblood, much less by a progressive internet news aggregator like Common Dreams.
Jacob Freeze
Dear Don Quixote,
That is a windmill, not a ferocious giant, that you are slaying...
Your Trusted Horse,
Rocinante
The article would have been better and more unifying without getting into divisive gender and racial issues. There have been imperialists of every race. It grows out of a particular kind of ideology combined with some economic/military advantage, an advantage that Europeans and Americans held for the last few centuries, but which they are losing now. The Chinese and Japanese would find it funny and a bit strange to hear a US citizen speak of white domination in the present. And I find it a bit strange to read of the dangers of continued male domination when the majority of college graduates in the US today are female, and the percentage grows year by year, meaning that domination is soon coming to an end regardless of what any of us do.
And I may be mistaken, but I believe the authors are promoting a popular leftist worldview which demonizes hierarchies in general. Meritocratic hierarchies generally win competitions against other systems. It is not by accident that successful military and corporate organizations almost always are based on some form of meritocratic hierarchy. Hierarchical systems can produce extreme inequality, but it does not have to be that way. I can imagine egalitarian socialist hierarchies which could provide a roughly equal quality of life for everyone. And I do not see how the left can defeat the hierarchical right while completely abandoning that form of organization.
I wonder why you chose the word "better" to describe what amounts to little more than lying to ourselves. Because the fact is that racism is still a major part of our society, and sweeping it under the rug so we can delude ourselves about being unified wouldn't change a thing or do any good. It certainly doesn't help in seeing what we have overcome and what is left.
And in regards to the gender issue of college graduates, the observation is moot. Being a college graduate doesn't address the issue of gender relations or dominance. Again, while it is an improvement, using it as a means to disregard sexism certainly doesn't help in seeing what we have overcome and what is left.
I have seen tremendous progress in race relations in my life (I am 51). And focusing on racial differences allows the corporatists to continue using that means of dividing the opposition. And love him or hate him, an Obama presidency could not help but further that progress significantly. Also, the ascendancy of China will inevitably demolish what is left of any belief in white superiority.
I have seen comparable changes with regard to gender. Those female college graduates are not in their peak years of productivity and power yet, so of course the domination has not ended, but it will inevitably end when those graduates reach that point. I do not know what your situation is, but from where I sit I see the world changing radically. And again, I see the corporatists ready to use gender to split the left and maintain control. The completely corporatist candidate Hillary Clinton almost won simply by playing the gender card. And there will be more, probably much more, of that to come.
I am only 28 and I too have seen some progress, but my point is that we shouldnt delude ourselves into feeling united simply because we have seen progress.
While we should certainly recognize where we have improved we should be equally cognizant of where we can still improve.
The writers of this article pointed out that we have come a long way but we still got a long way to go. This is a reality we must accept and face.
The illusion is that these "problems" are subject to progressive change.
There is not some path that we have a "long way to go" on. There is only evolutionary change, generation by generation, and the will to see the changes or not.
"Racism" and Sexism are now officially and completely untolerated in all aspects of life. This is as far as Government and the Law can go in solving these issues without turning toward Totalitarianism.
So, in terms of Government and Law, we have nowhere to "go" -we are already there- we just have to ensure that what we have established is well maintained.
Socially speaking -meaning actual generalized tolerance and even respect for different "races" and the opposite sex in society- change will only come generationally. In this area continued harping about old wrongs and firm belief in widespread problems can be just as harmful as actual antagonistic beliefs. They can have a sort of "anti-placebo" effect, nothing happened but you feel worse.
And all of this ignores the very obvious fact that Class trumps "Race" or Sex in these United States.
I think the article's authors should get out of Texas for a while and they might notice that the rest of the country ain't as bad.
I speak from experience. I was born in Texas.
Don't Panic,
-matti.
racism and sexism are not officially and completely untolerated in all aspects of life? i wish someone would tell that to the people who keep hitting me with that shit every day. they must have missed the memo.
If you would have kept reading you would have seen that I was speaking in terms of Government and Law.
It is now illegal for "racial" or gender-based prejudice to inhibit any Citizen from work advancement, property ownership, or even use of private service businesses like bars or restaurants. I can't think of any situation where someone could legally restrict your rights because of "race" or gender. And I can think of several situations where they couldn't even legally restrict you in matters that are not fundamental rights -job advancement for instance- on "race" or gender grounds.
Whether you -or anyone else- fight to enforce that legal intolerance is a separate matter altogether.
If people are "hitting you with that shit every day" then you might want to move to a more tolerant and progressive region of the country, or at least get one of the dozens of organizations dedicated SOLELY to combating this sort of thing involved.
whoa^2.
there are lots of examples of the way that white supremacy is codified in our laws. a well-used, but still correct one, has to do with the vastly disparate sentencing for possession and dissemination of different types of drugs.
why should i have to move? are my options love it or leave it?
i don't think so. i choose to stay where i live and get involved.
Not to mention the way the death penalty is applied to prisoners.
or marriage laws.
but even if laws addressed racism and sexism in all imagineable accounts it does nothing to remedy the existing playingfield that is anything but level. We are talking about justice, primarily economic justice.
look at South Africa too. For years the racist apartheid laws were intertwined with economic interests. Giving blacks freedom but no justice makes their freedom a sham.
There are racist marriage laws? Like, banning interracial marriages?
the marriage laws comment wasnt in reference to race, but sex. primarily, gay marriages. and its not just marriage eitehr. i am pulling from memory but i recall a few years ago a story about how either kansas or kentucky has a romeo and juliet law that reduces the penalty for crimes of passion conducted by teenagers since they are emotional and stuff. well a crime of passion was conducted by a homosexual and the law didnt apply because of his sexuality.
the point is the legal system still doesnt address all racial and sexual discrimination. and even if it did that doesnt necessarily translate into justice.
"So, we will vote on Nov. 4, without hesitation. But more importantly, on Nov. 5 we will be realistic and continue talking about the radical change necessary to build a different world."
Completely agree. Citizenship lasts more than one day.
"The writers of this article pointed out that we have come a long way but we still got a long way to go. This is a reality we must accept and face."
Also completely agree with you, truthaddict.
In the words of William Hastie, the first black judge in this country at a federal level, "Democracy is not being, it is becoming. It is easily lost, but never finally won."
If capitalism means gangsterism and democracy promotes gangsterism you will get exactlly the same outcome as you now have in America. Gangsterism lives pretty well side by side with so called "meritocracy" and "hierarchical organization". Perhaps it is not an exaggeration to say that meritocracy and hierarchical organisation will always ends up in gangsterism.
Is it possible to distil "goodness" out of both capitalism and and American brand of democracy which pre-suppose that as long as everyone pursues his/her own selfish ends some fairy tale "invisible hand" will somehow gets most thing right for most people if not for everyone?
Maybe both believe systems are flawed beyong repair because the fundamental philosophies underpinning them are false to begin with.
not maybe, but affirmatively
the invisible hand theory is just a rhetorical flourish for those who advance faith-based economics.
we have plenty of data to show that competition is not altruistic nor possible to maintain and constrain.
competition leads a race to the bottom at the expense of social, economic and enviornmental justice, and is not akin to some friendly sportsmanship game. The idea in economic competition is not to maintain comeptition but to squash it, to dominate, to radically unlevel the playing field so that more and more can be consolidated and consumed.
I agree that capitalism means gangsterism. I am a lifelong socialist. I completely disagree that meritocracy or hierarchical organization necessarily leads to gangsterism or to extreme inequality. Those outcomes can be prevented through appropriate childhood development. One sometimes needs fire to fight fire, but one must always recognize that fire is dangerous and must be controlled.
The revolutionists of the past have gone through the same cycle several times,think the French, the Russians and the Chinese revolutionaries.
They have resorted to harsh hierarchical organisation to fortify themselves against strong attacks from their all too real foes. In the end they found it impossible to give up the very same hierarchical organisations which invariably brought them their own downfall.
In gangsterism there never was anything close to what meritocracy was suppose to mean. It only mean that the gang's boss or bosses get to choose the best people to serve their predetermined ends. Since gangsterism was the constant throughout history, we never had meritocracy.
In ancient history, probably the closest system to that of a meritocracy was in China, which conducted national exams to determine who would become an official of the government, a mandarin, with high status in society. That system allowed China to make significant advancements and become one of the great civilizations of the world.
Jacobin revolutions lead to great chaos and to hastily and inefficiently formed organizations, with positions usually based on loyalty and affinity, leading to what could be called "gangsterism" of some form. And, as you point out, it has been difficult for the gangster hierarchies to evolve into something more sustainable and healthy, such as a socialist meritocracy.
I believe that it would be difficult to evolve any system into a socialist meritocracy, but not impossible. I liken it to the development of heavier-than-air aircraft, which involved overcoming several technical hurdles that had discouraged a great many from believing success was achievable. One of the greatest hurdles is the development of procedures to prevent accumulation of and abuse of power. However, we should not allow the failures of the US, Soviet, and Chinese governmental systems to deter us, as they all were based on quite elementary and primitive designs.
And, as I mentioned above, I believe that healthy childhood development could be helpful in reducing the risk of, and degree of, abuse by those with power in any hierarchy.
I would find you argument more credible if you could show me a heirarchy that is meritocratic.
I havent' seen one yet.
Every place i've worked - private or government, the guys at the top get ther due to having an extra dose of power-hunger and greed in their personalities rather than any actual competency or talent.
But at least in government the pay is much more equal, so the motivation is more power than greed.
It is a matter of degree. Some systems are more meritocratic than others. Law firms are somewhat meritocratic. And we could all imagine ways to design systems that would be more meritocratic. I think of the social hierarchy in an American highschool. I have not experienced any workplace less meritocratic than that. Though my wife informs me that in Chinese highschools the social hierarchy is completely dependent on academic success.
Successful military and corporate organizations 'win' because we; that is, most contemporary societies, have agreed to a rule set that says might makes right. Violence, overt or implied, has been accepted as a method of conflict resolution or social organization. When a value system regards self-aggrandizement as a reflection of self-worth, time is measured by how quickly you get results. Hierarchy works best. You don't have to spend time building and maintaining the trust required to live in cooperative and collaborative systems. Transformation from hierarchy to cooperative and/or collaborative ways of organizing will require a maturation of social consciousness. Defeat implies viewing this change through a hierarchical lens; therfore, nothing has changed, really.
I appreciate your arguments, but I would like to make a couple of points in response. First, violence may occur without acceptance or agreement by the victims or even by the bystanders or the greater society. Those committing the violence are operating under their own rules which might deviate significantly from the rules of the larger group or the group that is subjected to the violence. And they adopt such rules because violence can be the easiest way to achieve particular goals, including self-aggrandizement.
The second is that I would hope that human society could evolve to the point that we would not need to worry about competing against conservative hierarchical organizations, but they exist and they are formidable. I sometimes worry that ever since the McCarthy era the leaders of the American left have so feared accusations and attacks from the right that they have found too much comfort in supporting approaches that are not a threat to anyone with power and certainly not to the corporatists.
I enjoy imagining the day in the future when a "transformation from hierarchy to cooperative and/or collaborative ways of organizing" is possible. It may or may not provide an improvement in the human condition, but it would be worth a try at least. I just do not see that day coming soon, and certainly not while conservative hierarchical organizations exist.
so, gender and racial issues are divisive, but we shouldn't talk about them for the sake of a unity that apparently doesn't exist? will the choice to not talk about them constitute unity? at whose expense?
Cicely, it is my guess that you will be talking about racial and gender issues. And there will be many others doing so as well. As a matter of fact, I am quite confident that there will be many more talking about such issues than there will be people talking about the importance of promoting unity of the left.
the authors' made many really fabulous points--about the need to re-vision economic interactions, what democratic participation looks like, etc. i am all for unity. i am absolutely 100% behind standing in solidarity with people who reflect my views and share my struggles. i totally recognize that the people who fall into those categories identify as all manner of things that i don't: christian, jewish, atheist, white, latino, male, queer, etc.
but--my political and ideological views stem from my experience in the world. that experience is shaped and colored by my identity. 'black' and 'woman' are not the sole arbiters of my identity, or even necessarily the most important. however, they are the most visible, and hence the ones that folx react to the most. i refuse to give up part of my identity, part of what has shaped my values and politics, because it's 'divisive'. further, i refuse to accept that i can either talk about race/gender/oppression views OR get about the business of 'promoting unity of the left'. if the unity that is being promoted has no space for me and my entire identity, i want no parts of it.
so, i will be voting Green Party for president, and i'll continue to do the everyday tasks, too, things like: conversing with people whose ideas differ from mine, and looking for common ground (the real kind, not the kind where differences are ignored for the sake of 'togetherness').
It is all a matter of emphasis. For example, given an election where each candidate has a 50/50 chance to win in your estimation, would you support a Nader over a Hillary Clinton? Or would you support a Nader over a Barack Obama or some African-American not of mixed heritage? There are quite a number of "progressive" African-American females who would support a Hillary or Barack over Nader in that circumstance because of race or gender issues. And the corporatists know this and they will be grooming what corporatist female and black candidates they can find. And, if the nation becomes more accepting of gay candidates, you can be sure the corporatists will groom some corporatist lesbian, maybe a corporatist black lesbian (maybe Condi?), to run. The left has no chance to ever come out of the wilderness under those conditions.
Seems like the solution for you is to have someone pin the label "corporatist" on corpoate "whores". Maybe that is the only way because the election system we have, that is one based on corporations' money, nurtures ignorant voters. If this penultimate tactic do not work we would just have to wait for a revolution, don't we?
Terms like "meritocracy" and "successful" are a bit to subjective for my taste.
In a capitalist society the most "meritorious" individuals are almost exclusively the most ruthless, dishonest, avaricious and devoid of conscience. This is what leads to "success" in a system that rewards the most base tendencies of human nature while punishing hard work, productivity and honesty with impoverishment and marginalization.
There is a universe of difference between those who lead and those who rule.
A society which produced leaders would not require any formal hierarchical structure. Leaders arise from the general populace when circumstances require.
Such a civilization would also have little need for excessive military development since it would be motivated not by nationalism or ethnic bias, but by the need and desire to perpetuate the human species.
Rulers create and manipulate hierarchies to further their own agendas without regard for the commonality and its welfare. They also provoke and perpetuate war for the purposes of personal aggrandizement, advancing their empirical delusions and apparently take great pleasure in dispensing suffering and death indiscriminately.
There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
While overt expressions of bigotry have become uncommon (but still heard here in western Pennsylvania), one must understand how embedded racism is in the machinery of our society.
In my city, I can go to the northeastern suburb of Penn Hills find waht look like incredible bargains in homes - solidly built well-kept houses for $40,000 to 80,000. Identical houses in, say the southern suburbs of Whitehall or Bethel Park sell for 95,000 to 160,000. The difference? Penn Hills is seeing an influx of black families and is mow probably about 25 percent black. And those houses actually aren't good bargains because they will continuing to decline in value proportional to the black population. So, even someone who insists they arent'r racist - even a black person - who can afford to lieve elsewhere, must make a race-based decision NOT to buy a house in Penn Hills, lest they face serious financial prbelems with a house that is worth less than the mortgage (we never had a RE bubble here in the rust belt) And mind you, these are middle class black poeple moving to Penn Hills, the houses are well kept, crime is low. RE taxes and schools are similar too.
Please explain this without invoking the role of racism embedded in a society - not individuals - a society.
But, the facts are there is plenty of racism among individuals too. Recently, my aging father who lives in the Northern Virginia/DC area was sent to a rehab center to allow him to recover from a severe ulcer that almost killed him. Several of my sisters visited the center and went into open revolt - insisting that the center was an awful place and that needs to someone "spring him" from the center and take him back to the retirement home and my mother. - even though it would be aginst medical advide. The e-mails went back and forth incresingly shrill, unlil my oldest sister - a trained medical techniciam, went to the center and determined that my father was actually receving good care. Her e-mail ended with a most telling note: ."...and just because the nurses and staff are from Africa or the Carribean doesn't mean they are bad caregivers".
So there you have it. It appears that mearly all this percepton of the rehab center being of poor quality was simply the skin color of the staff.
These are just two recent examples of things I witness every day. I am tiring of this racism-denial among so many people - including Obama himself.
There is "racism" yes. which is silly because there are no such things as "races" of people.
But does this justify the Authors' repeated labelling of our Society as "white-supremacist"?
This is what Mr. Freeze was reacting to -a bit too exitedly in my opinion.
These people are a bit much frankly. They lost me when they just PRESUMED for themselves the Rare-possession-of-Truth, when they stated that "the response of the majority of Americans(sic)" to their ideas would be "to condemn them as crazy".
Yeah, professor, we're all against you because we're all ignorant jerks. Your ideas fail to gain traction only because of our -apparently purely reactionary and without merit- "responses". Its not the caustic and accusatory and SUPERIOR way in which you present them. And its certainly not any possible flaw in your analysis.
That was enough for me and I stopped reading.
Every time someone in Austin espouses a dark view of "race" and gender relations in the U.S., I like to remind them to do what I did: LEAVE TEXAS. And watch your worldview get sunnier.
here's a funny, but true, thing. paradoxical, but i find it to be well worth understanding: even though the scientists have made it clear that race doesn't exist biologically, race as a (powerful) social construct is alive and kicking.
you don't think our society is white supremacist?
you know, i unwittingly took your challenge: i left the south, where i'm from, and moved to progressive portland. i was waiting for my worldview to get sunnier. it got whiter and lighter, but as a black woman, i still deal with racism every single day.
You're "dealing" with "racism" in PORTLAND?
I'm pretty surprised, actually. I've found Portland to be a quite tolerant place. When you say you "deal" with this "every single day" what do you mean exactly? People shouting insults at you? Or a feeling you get that they are uncomfortable around you? My point is, are people DOING things which are "racist" or are you "sensing" that they have hostility.
I'm not doubting you here, but I think that we can agree there is a difference between my two hypothetical extremes.
Do you think refering to yourself as "a black woman" plays any part in keeping "race" "alive and kicking" as a "social construct"?
Again, no offense meant. But I think "racism" will only truly go away when we drop "race" as a concept -including as self-identification.
And no, our Society is most certainly NOT a "white-supremacist" one. If it were would mocking presentations of bigoted "white" people in support of John McCain send Obama's (a half African's) poll numbers UP?
I mean, this just seems kind of blindingly obvious to me, so its hard to understand people not seeing it.
We are a WEALTH-supremacist Society.
"White" was another "social construct" -just like "race" or "black"- that has now lost its usefullness since Wealth has spread beyond Anglo-Saxons and Europeans.
matti
you say you found portland to be "tolerant", i'm assuming about race. are you white?
You are absolutely correct when you state there are no separate races within the human species. There are only superficial ethnic contrasts. This fact is often lost on people who believe that the universe was created a mere six thousand years ago.
I presently live in new mexico. I am "white" and my wife is "black".
I can a assure you that "racism" is more prevalent here than in texas. My father lives in arlington so I have spent a good deal of time there. Very often here, if you are black or your last name is not hispanic, there is a none too subtle undercurrent of prejudice. This is particularly evident in the depressed job market.
There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
Hell, I'd go to Penn Hills and buy one of those homes. I sure as hell would not want to raise a family in some non-diverse white bubble.
whoa. i see that you're having lots of feelings about this article. unfortunately, your questions speak clearly to the fact that the obamas are the exceptions that prove the rule.
so we don't live in a white supremacist nation because some people of color, somewhere, sometimes, in small groups, are able to go to college?
we also know it's not white supremacist because if it was, jensen and youngblood wouldn't be able to get their essays published?
you know, i tend to find folx' ability to deny angrily the entrenched legacy of white supremacy and institutionalized racism, despite so so so many examples, statistics, and studies that illustrate that legacy so nicely, proof of just HOW influential white supremacist attitudes and behaviors are.
a friendly-intentioned suggestion: if you do decide to look around for white supremacy, and the white privilege that feeds it so wonderfully, check yourself.
Harharharhar!!!
Anyone who can't see white supremacism everywhere must be a white supremacist.
Harharharhar!!!
Jensen, Youngblood, and now "cicely" aren't just race-baiting fanatics...
These guys are gibbering hallucinators!
Don't you see anything just the least bit weird about the assertion that a white-supremacist nation is about to elect a black President?
Doesn't that assertion awaken the tiniest glimmer of cognitive dissonance in you, "cicely?"
A white-supremacist nation is about to elect a black President!
Roll that beautiful phrase around once or twice in your brain!
A white-supremacist nation is about to elect a black President!
It sound like a pronouncement by the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland.
Harharharhar!!!
Or maybe it's more like Humpty-Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass:
"'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'"
So when Humpty Jensen and Dumpty Youngblood use the words "white supremacist," it means "about to elect a black President," but when the rest of us use it, it refers to something more like the ante-bellum South...
But it's also possible that the delusional Jensen and Youngblood think the Confederacy also elected a couple of black Presidents.
It's obviously a typical feature of white-supremacist nations throughout history.
Harharharhar!!!
This suggests an excellent test-question for testing prospective members of Jensen and Youngblood's delusional race-baiting fraternity:
"Name three black Presidents of the Confederacy."
Anyone who can answer that question can probably also explain how a white-supremacist nation is about to elect a black President!
Harharharhar!!!
Jacob Freeze
part of what i wrote earlier was unclear, and as a result, unintentionally inflammatory.
JACOB FREEZE--i am not, repeat NOT, calling you a white supremacist. i AM suggesting that you might want to learn and understand what white privilege is, what it looks like in the world, and how it functions to feed white supremacy. also, you might want to figure out what it has to do with you.
also--is the confederacy really the only metric by which you measure white supremacy and racism?
Here's a clue:
Try to remember way back when you were in high school, in 2007, and somebody tells you that a club at your school is full of white supremacists.
Then you notice that the President of the club is black...
[And the penny still doesn't drop!]
But while we're talking about metrics, let's not forget the famous Jensen-Youngblood metric:
How many black Presidents of the Confederacy can you name?
Jensen and Youngblood can name 468 black Presidents of the Confederacy, because they are very, very sensitive to signs of white supremacism, as measured by the Youngblood-Jensen metric!
Jacob Freeze
It seems like this election coverage has been going on forever. Will it really be over in a couple of weeks? Probably not, the experts will continue their inane analysis of all the ramifications of the results; on and on go the blabbermouths of punditocracy. A serious look a both anointed candidates indicates a high probability of very little changing, at least from a top down perspective. Whoever mounts the executive throne will inherit unprecedented powers. Think Obama will willingly give those up? That much unchecked power is dangerous no matter how seemingly benevolent they appear on their way to the throne.
The most important vote is not with the ballot but with the wallet. The capitalist system, as it exists now, only survives by our purchasing consent. Refuse to buy their crap, they change to accommodate your wishes, or they perish. Of course that kind of conscious purchasing activity takes awareness, self education, and continual refinement, but most importantly it takes discipline. Looks to me like it's easier for most to sit back on their couches with their corporate burgers and beer and watch the corporate news as it feeds their dulling gray matter with sugar coated lies, deceptions, false "hope", and "exciting up to the minute coverage" of the latest bullshit contest of genuine nonsense.
I'll do my civic duty and vote, for Nader and our local progressives, but, after Nov 4, I'll continue to follow Voltaire's admonition in Candide and cultivate my own garden, (with like minded friends of course), doing all that I can, on a daily basis, to refuse to feed the machine.