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Will Electric Car Boom Leave Workers and Environment in the Dust?
While Libya's turmoil rocks global oil prices and nuclear meltdown threatens Japan, clean energy is getting some well-deserved attention these days. The ultimate symbol of the green industrial promise is the much-hyped electric car, now pushing steadily into the global marketplace, and with models like the Volt, seemingly poised to to zoom full-throttle into the future.
But some activists have popped open the hood to expose shady corporate practices that may be holding back progress toward a greener economy. And as we've seen in the global ripple effect of the disaster in Japan, no matter how slick the technology, the sustainability of any product is only as strong as the weakest link in the supply chain, which is, after all, tied to real people and real places.
Ideally, a car that runs on a rechargeable battery powered by renewable fuel would curb carbon emissions and rid our streets of dirty exhaust. But that impeccably green image is just the tail-end of a massive global production pipeline, which advocates say could generate just as much destruction as the gas guzzlers the industry seeks to replace.
SOMO, a Netherlands-based consumer advocacy group, says corporations must be held accountable for environmental and social impacts at each point in the production process, from the mining of precious ores to the last rivet on the assembly line. An electric car's green veneer may hide old industrial practices that exploit workers and vulnerable communities.
Presenting the group's new report on the electric car industry, SOMO researcher Tim Steinweg surmised, “the supply chain of many of our consumer products cause grave damage to people and the environment around the world. The electric car battery supply chain is no exception.”
The problems start deep underground, where an element that is essential to battery production, lithium, has become a red-hot commodity for the mining sector and the industries linked to it. The growing thirst for lithium has opened up countries like Bolivia to potential predation by multinational firms.
The supply chain then leads to China's vast industrial landscape, where workers face extremely taxing working conditions and some of the lowest wages in the world.
SOMO calls attention to the potential consequences of the growing scramble to claim the world's lithium hotspots, located primarily in South America as well as China and Afghanistan.
As the electric car industry gears up for the mainstream markets, Bolivia (the so-called “Saudi Arabia of Lithium”) has become ground zero for various turf battles that pit locals, particularly communities in the tourist and farming sectors, against both foreign companies and government agencies. In addition, the environmental impact of large-scale lithium mining could disrupt local ecosystems, sap critical water supplies and encroach on traditional farming livelihoods.
Battery production is also due to ramp up demand for other minerals strewn across the Global South, opening more avenues for extraction in sensitive or volatile regions such as sub-Saharan Africa.
Meanwhile, in Shenzhen, SOMO examined the working conditions at Build Your Dreams, one of China's premiere battery manufacturers. While the company provides relatively decent conditions for employees, civil society watchdogs have documented evidence of workers being driven to work exhausting shifts, sometimes violating overtime rules, with virtually no access to union representation.
SOMO's report is not a strike against electric cars, but it is a rare initiative to broaden the conversation in the environmental community to foreground labor and social responsibility issues facing the communities most affected by this budding industry. If society is to embrace green automotives, then government regulators, manufacturers and consumers all have a responsibility to keep their eyes on the supply chain from start to finish, lest we blindly pursue dreams of electric joyrides by mowing down the communities left behind.
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Show AllIn view of how much corporate welfare Team Obama is furnishing the coal and nuclear power generation industries (at the expense of expanding truly clean energy) most of the lithium batteries in these new electric cars will be charged with power from dirty generation sources..
Not necessarily so. Ultimately, the author does point out that there is much to be done to green up manufacturing and mining. But regarding the energy to power the electric automobile, there is no reason why it can't be generated by sun and wind. And this is what I plan to do... as soon as the solar panel is efficient enough to power something more than porchlights.
Unfortunately, most of the cars on the road will be gas powered for a long time (perhaps all the time there is left; hope not) because not everyone will be able to trade up to electrics right off the bat, unless there is some sort of subsidy or buyback program.
The only viable solutions to the energy problem require a nationwide mobilization which would require leadership, which we don't currently have, done through national government, which right wingers hate and which some of us who aren't right wing nevertheless distrust.
Another good article. Thanks.
"Will electric car boom leave workers and environment in the dust?"
Yes.
All seemingly "good" investor-driven business activities will always and ultimately leave workers and the environment in the dust. It is the model that does not work, cannot work, not particular activities within the model. The desires of the investors will always smash the needs of the workers. It can be no other way. Return on investment is enhanced to the exact degree that workers are exploited and the environment destroyed. This is not an unfortunate by-product, merely one facet of the system, it is the essence and foundation of the system.
It is impossible to buy or invest our way to social and political change.
What you're suggesting is that the technology be dismissed based on worker's rights. This really is nonsensical. To follow your argument to its logical conclusion would destroy virtually all industry in the world. And when the workers are starving and our quality of light is diminished, is this your answer? It is true, as the author points out, that labor practices are problematic... in our country as well as the third world. However, if you were to ask a worker if he'd willingly go without to make a point about working conditions, well... most would say no. That doesn't mean they don't want change, they just want to eat more. To bring this back to topic... yes, the best labor practices should be used to mine minerals and produce electrics. But global warming is the sword of Domocles hanging over humanity's head.
A big change over to electric cars will never happen. With our failing economy and high unemployment few people will be able to afford expensive electric vehicles. For those who've seen the movie, "Who Killed the Electric Car" you'll know that what chance we had to have more electric vehicles on the road has passed. At one point in the SF Bay Area they were building charging stations in various places because of a state mandate to have more electric vehicles on the road. But the same auto makers who were making the vehicles (all of them) where also fighting the mandate which was eventually killed. So while we can argue the merits of the supplies that go into making our products, an electric vehicle would still have the benefit of having a smaller impact (nothing is green). But it won't matter since we only have one vehicle, the Chevy Volt, even for sale (although there are smaller independent makers and retro-fit vehicles but they are also expensive).
Good points from both readers. The 'Green Revolution' is still far from becoming a reality. The key to any Green Revolution is to eliminate utility companies from the picture. As Michelle Chen said... "Ideally, a car that runs on a rechargeable battery powered by renewable fuel would curb carbon emissions and rid our streets of dirty exhaust" In my own case I have a savonius windmill (no danger to birds and quiet) that charges the battery of my electric car. I can also use the windmill to produce hydrogen gas (stored on site) which could be used to fuel my hydrogen battery (fuel cell) instead of a Lithium battery, however there are no commercially available fuel cell batteries out there yet. At the moment I can only use the hydrogen gas to heat my home and cook. I could run an internal combustion engine on H as well except for the fact that I currently own an electric car! It must be noted that my current system was expensive to acquire, but that is only because it is one of a kind. I also met opposition from a group trying to persuade people from turning to wind energy (a right wing, corporate funded advocacy group?) claiming among other things that wind generator frequencies cause cancer and mental illness. Don't you feel lucky that we have nuclear and coal to save us?
Ideally we could eliminate fossil fuels and corporate energy companies in one fell swoop if we had strong leadership that represented the public interest. This would begin with a national commitment to making every homeowner 'utility free' by such and such date. At the same time national mandates would require an incremental increase in the percentage of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles produced and sold in the country. All new infrastructure programs from trains, planes and ships would have to be hydrogen powered. Gas lines would have to be in public hands with homeowners receiving a small cheque (NOT a bill!) from the business community for their excess hydrogen production. All homes would have to be retrofitted with renewable energy systems (solar, wind, hydro) over a ten or fifteen year period funded by taxes on 'dirty energy' and the products they produce.
Hybrids and electric cars are a welcomed innovation, however all of these products must be viewed as short term transition products that will eventually take us to a hydrogen economy. Unfortunately, a corporate agenda will fight this transition at every opportunity and keep the public in the dark as much as possible.
Space Cadet:
Wow, you sound like the scientist in "Back to the Future" with such a high-tech household. How does anybody let you store highly flammable hydrogen on your property?
I like your ideas, but I think one other thing ought to be considered. How do we get Americans to stop looking at individualized units of transportation as a sacred right and move to greater use of mass transit? Or is this not worth the battle? Mass transit would save urban space now devoted to parking lots and freeways, save fuel of whatever kind, and save accidents and injuries. It would save money too, because paying fares is cheaper than buying and maintaining one's own vehicle, insuring it, licensing it, etc. But it's hard to counter the convenience of go-any-time, go-anywhere transportation at your own beck and call. Grocery shopping, for one thing, would have to change from haul-it-yourself to have it delivered.
We would have to change our national frame of mind from rugged individualism to something more communal in nature to accept and seek these changes.
I guess I have a different picture of what an ideal case would look like.
If you look at natural systems, i.e. life, what you see is that all forms of life go to amazingly creative lengths to absolutely minimize energy consumption. Instead of using our creativity to minimize our energy and resource usage, we have been mainly relying on brute force. Just throw some more kWh at just about any problem, and it can be "solved." At least temporarily.
We are an anomaly in nature. Our systems have expanded the rate of energy consumption so many orders of magnitude above what they were 100 years ago that everyone alive today should be aware that what we have now is not normal, it is not desirable, and will end, probably sooner rather than later. Watching the Fukushima disaster, I have lost all tolerance for the cornucopians who always insist resources and energy are infinite - or nearly so, and it's just a matter of tapping into that. These people are risking the end of the world, and their arrogance seems to know no bounds.
IMHO, the best thing anyone reading this can personally do is an energy audit. Examine how much energy you require to live as you do currently. And then start making cuts to that consumption. Most people have plenty of low-hanging fruit, uses where energy consumption is high, often for the sake of convenience, or habit.
When the music stops and concentrated energy is simply unavailable at any price, you will be very happy you did the hard work of weaning yourself off energy.
Agreed. I read a book that was written in 1978 by a physics professor from Berklee. He said we could save 50% of our energy consumption simply by making our infrastructure more energy efficient - 50%!!! Electric transportation will help too, especially if combined holistically with rooftop generation. This is the plan for my household.
Where the hell does the electric come from to charge the batteries? That sure as hell isn't green!!! Stop the bullshyt !
The electricity needed to recharge the car is a much cleaner source of energy compared to the internal combustion engine, it ain't perfect, but a lot better. I'm not calling you stupid, but maybe a little ignorant on the merits of the electric vehicle if we continue to use individual vehicles.
Are you really trying to suggest coal is cleaner than gasoline? The vast majority of US electricity production comes from coal, so I'm having difficulty following your logic.
I think many people have this idea that an electric car is an alternative energy source in and of itself. It is not. A power plant, be it coal, nuclear, hydro, LNG, or wind/solar requires produced electricity to be transmitted long distances, and the resistive losses in the wires are significant. As per Ohm's law, the resistive losses increase with the square of the current, so doubling the load current quadruples the power dissipated in the transmission lines in the form of heat. For many people, an electric vehicle *would* double their electric consumption, so these loss estimates are important considerations. Additionally, for every kWh of customer usage, 2kWh must be produced at the generating station, on average. That is to say, roughly half of all electricity produced in the US is wasted currently. That figure would double if we added capacity to enable an electric car infrastructure. (i.e. produced power would need to be 4X power consumption)
The majority of electric production is from coal-fired power plants. From an electrical engineering standpoint, producing and distributing the quantity of power that would be necessary to enable a shift to even a 50% electric car fleet is simply impossible. The energy required to expand the grid in such a way would be cost-prohibitive, from an energy standpoint. Your comment sounds very much like solar proponents, who similarly misunderstand the nature of the systems involved and the vast quantities of energy we routinely use for the most trivial of tasks.
Whatever the form of energy, the root problem is that we have become utterly dependent as a people on systems and structures that are crucially dependent on "cheap" power. Cheap is in quotes because we have not fully paid the price of the environmental damage. That will to a large extent, be paid by future generations, as they struggle to cope with the long-lingering effects from our fantastically ecocidal attachment to power.
Yes, I do realize that all "energy productions" have their bad-sides, but the internal combustion engine used in our vehicles today are not very efficient, therefore a lot of pollutants and heat are released per mile driven by a vehicle (even processing one form of energy into gasoline/diesel). But, large scale energy production, via coal, natural gas, nuclear would have less of an environmental impact if that energy was used to recharge a battery that would drive a vehicle. Mileage vs. mileage, an electric car would produce less harm to the environment. As an example, consider golf carts, electric golf carts produce less heat & pollutants than gas-powered golf carts.
But, I admit, you can argue against the problems caused by producing batteries and the by-products of spent batteries.
I don't think you heard what I said. Electric vehicles are by definition, no better than 50% efficient. In practicality, they are somewhere around 25% efficient.
This is much worse than a fuel-efficient internal combustion engine.
You really don't know what you're talking about vis-a-vis efficiency.
I have to disagree with your post entirely. Your claim is flat-out false that "large scale energy production, via coal, natural gas, nuclear would have less of an environmental impact if that energy was used to recharge a battery that would drive a vehicle. Mileage vs. mileage, an electric car would produce less harm to the environment."
I couldn't disagree more, and I feel obliged to ask for technical reasons that would justify such an assertion. I am an electrical engineer, and I don't think you have any idea about transmission line losses, nor anything else having to do with energy. Frankly, I think you're completely ignorant of the energy situation we face. My shorthand question is: are you smoking crack, or are you just paid to make your posts?
I think that you have to approach the problem holistically, don't you. If by your statement, large scale production is impossible, then steps should be taken to generate power at the household level. This power could supply enough to recharge a EV battery. Regards transmission line loss, it's high time that the nation stopped spending its precious resources on bombing brown people and funding an imperial military, plus subsidizing all of the polluting forms of energy, and instead did something to modernize our transmission lines and encourage small scale "local" solar farms. Regards transmission lines, its not only the length of the transmission that makes it impractical to conceive of large scale solar, but also the ownership of these lines, especially in rural areas. The rural cooperatives hold rights to power lines that could bottleneck any wide scale production of solar energy.
And no, I'm not smoking crack....
I work as an engineer, also. The last job I quit (because of a disagreement with management) paid me $500,000/year. Never tried crack, what's it like?
I understand a lot about lost power in transmission, plus I understand a lot of other things. If you think I can give 'technical reasons' here in the comment section of CD, then your understanding of engineering principles is way less than mine.
I've freelanced in the energy business for the past 20 years, all over the world and in parts of Alabama. I've seen electric transportation vs internal combustion engine transportation - I've breathed the cleaner air.
Anyway, since you know so much about crack, tell me what it's like, if you have the time.
I have been tinkering with electric motor scooters for a while now. I took some power consumption measurements on my scooters, researched the CO2 mass per kwh for the typical eastern US power mix. The result is that in terms of "equivalent miles per gallon" my scooter gets the equivalent of 420 miles per gallon in terms of energy usage and about 220 miles per gallon in terms of carbon emissions.
For comparison a 50-160 cc motor scooter will get, with care, about 80 mpg.
These far higher numbers are a consequence of the far greater efficiency of a battery electric vehicle (about 80 percent overall) compared to an IC engine vehicle which in stop-and-go driving is perhaps 5-10 percent efficient.
But I agree that a return to traditional walkable, transit-served communities, like the neighborhood I lived in until recently, which would eliminate most care usage, would be a far better solution than suburbia filled with electric cars.
Gee, no response from "wildcard", must have choked on the pollution of his comments.
Michelle: A very thoughtful column, although I take issue with it's main premise.
Yes, a life-cycle analysis of most manufacturing reveals it to be dirty, and often fraught with negative social and labor externalities.
But that's precisely the point -- if nearly all process have negative social and environmental externalities associated with them, it makes no sense to isolate the cleanest among them and hold them up to scrutiny. The fact is, electric vehicles -- although far from perfect -- are orders of magnitude cleaner than conventional vehicles.
Your argument is tantamount to mounting an assault on parking meter violations in the midst of a murder spree.
The solution to dirty manufacturing is to generalize best practices through regulation of something like the new ISO Corporate Responsibility Standards, not to besmirch giant steps forward.
I agree 100%
"The ultimate symbol of the green industrial promise is the much-hyped electric car..."
This is flat-out wrong!!
The best way to get truly Green transit is to do like Europe, Japan, Taiwan
and wean off of our auto addiction by running and expanding public transit.
Public transit, in particular trains and light rail can take 10-15 times the
number of people for the same land use, is 5 times more energy efficient,
does not require asphalt from our dwindling oil supplies, causes virtually no
deaths like the 30,000+ per year for cars or injuries in the hundreds of thousands.
Electric cars take as much energy as a house, require the whole vast costs of
the auto addiction - ambulances, traffic cops, traffic courts, snow plowing of acres upon acres of land.
Lester Brown from the Earth Policy Institute (formerly Worldwatch Institute)
pointed out in Wednesdays episode of the Nation's excellent series on
"Peak Oil and Climate Change" that just 5 cars take 1 acre of land!
http://www.thenation.com/video/159399/lester-brown-planets-scarcest-resource-time
Peak Oil and Climate Change series:
http://www.thenation.com/article/157434/peak-oil-and-changing-climate
Since the Great Recession hit in 2008 over 150 cities have CUT existing
public transit while Obama wasted $3 Billion on cash for clunkers.
By the way many trains and almost all light rail systems are ALREADY
electric!
There is nothing wrong with electric shuttles, buses to connect public transit trains. But 2 ton personal electric cars?
Not sustainable...
They take too much energy, land, parking, resources to build and the huge
costs of road, highway infrastructure.
This past Winter where I live towns would still go broke plowing the snow for
all those electric car roads, parking lots, etc.
We have 233,000 miles of Rails all over the USA, vestiges of the greatest Rail
system in history up until 1950. 79% of our population lives in urban areas
and tracks pass by a vast majority of those people.
Get the trains going!
As Lester Brown warns - we do not have time to wait!
By RUNNING our already existing public transit to all out capacity we could
easily save 10% of our oil usage and 5% of greenhouse emissions in just a year.
Public transportation in the USA will not work for most people because everything is too spread out.
It's too spread out because of the automobile. We must re-design our cities into walkable villages.
That would take decades, by then new technologies will evolve (fusion?).
In other words, your solution is to do nothing, except wishcasting for a pie in the sky hope to save you.
As for taking decades, it depends. If the price of oil hits, and stays at 200 per barrel, a lot of people will suddenly decide that living 50 miles from their place of work, 20 miles from the nearest grocery store / supermarket, and driving some huge truck, is not such a good idea anymore, and decide to change fast.
The current 2011 value of US home real estate is estimated at 22.7 trillion (Zillow). How much of that would have to be abandoned and how much new real estate would need to be built so efficient public transportation could be provided Where would the money for that come from especially if oil goes to 200?
You are confused. The radical dislocation is already happening, through privatization. Suburbanization is the problem, and catering to suburbia compounds the problems.
Building transportation attracts populations, not the other way around.
Much of suburbia, much of the housing, much of the "real estate" should be abandoned, since that is costing us more that we gain from it.
Money is not a barrier. Labor is the source of wealth, not capital.
A more practical approach is to eliminate the need for transportation:
What the U.S. could save if more people worked from home
What would a world without offices look like? Well, Dilbert wouldn't be funny, and there would be no such thing as rush-hour traffic. Here, thanks to Kate Lister of the Telework Research Network, a San Diego -- based research firm, is a rough guess at what else would happen to the U.S. economy if everyone who could work from home -- about 40 percent of the work force -- did so half the time. The figures are annual. Feel free to rattle them off the next time someone makes fun of you for managing in your PJs.
$200 billion productivity gains by American companies
$190 billionsavings from reduced real estate expenses, electricity bills, absenteeism, and employee turnover
100 hours per person not spent commuting
50 million tons of greenhouse gas emissions cut
276 million barrels of oil saved, or roughly 32 percent of oil imports from the Middle East
1,500 lives not lost in car accidents
$700 billion total estimated savings to American businesses
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/telecommuting-by-the-numbers.html
This nation would be far more healthier riding horses out in the rurals than sitting in gas guzzlers in the middle of suburbia !
Jumping into the middle of this thread is a bit like bungee jumping over a canyon... but here goes...
Agree with mass transit - preferable high speed rail. And we can do it. Instead of spending money on airports which will be unusable in the future do the high cost of oil, we should be looking at piloting our ways between cities and across the country using high speed rail. These rail systems could network with hub and spoke connectors at the local level - and then on to electric busses. No more highway spending until high speed rail is built.
Second, inside cities - bike paths should be constructed. I usually load up my bike when I travel to another city and then use it as transit for getting around the downtown area where I stay. This is the kind of thing that should be encouraged - all over the country. In small urban areas, biking is the ideal method of transit.
Yes, the electric car has a role to play in this too. But not at the expense of other modes of transportation. We should also take all of the subsidies we direct at drilling and blowing up mountaintops and direct them towards transmission line improvement, energy efficiency and retrofit of the housing and building stock (putting millions of Americans to work in the process), and adding energy production (solar and wind) at the household and local level.
Transportation is not used just for work. And not everyone works in an office, or can work from home, as your onw numbers reveal: 40%. What about the remaining 60%?
Those of us that can telecommute though should. Again this is savings - for the consumer and the environment.
"The current 2011 value of US home real estate is estimated at 22.7 trillion (Zillow). How much of that would have to be abandoned and how much new real estate would need to be built so efficient public transportation could be provided Where would the money for that come from especially if oil goes to 200?
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The value of real estate is what people place on it. That real estate is valued at 22.7 trillion BECAUSE oil is not at 200 per barrel. If oil is at 200 per barrel, houses / mcmansions 50 miles from place of work, 20 miles from the nearest grocery store will crash in value.
Conversely, houses / apartments in more population dense areas will rise in value.
Yes, that means people staying in mcmansions and exurbs are going to see their real estate values crash. Too bad.
Workplaces are just as scattered around as is residential real estate. What would you do about that?
Workplaces are just as scattered around as is residential real estate. What would you do about that?
No, it won't "take decades" and so what if it did?
"... the environmental impact of large-scale lithium mining COULD disrupt local ecosystems, sap critical water supplies and encroach on traditional farming livelihoods."
No need to hedge your bet Michelle. It most certainly will.
http://kiely-flashpoint.blogspot.com/2011/03/consumption-consumption-whats-my.html
The electric car is quieter than internal combustion. It is also easier to minimize the passengers' exposure to toxins. It is a better choice for urban commuting. If das kapital were serving the people's better interests, it would produce electric cars for the benefits, balanced by the need to minimize full costs of overall consumption. But das kapital cares nothing about the people's better interests.
Instead, das kapital seeks only to expand itself, by inflaming/exploiting the people's appetites for things they don't really need. Such as personal transport as a means to isolate/alienate one's self from one's community, and from nature. So expect to see das kapital pushing 5-ton electric carz on us for 200 mile round-trip daily commutes.
In stark contrast to the agenda of... DAS KAPITAL!!! and the elites who worship at its altar, we on the far left have long finished our coherent framing of our needs, our better interests, and how to fulfill them, through control of public policy, and industrial production/resource allocation.
So we advocate electric cars under very specific conditions: We limit miles driven per vehicle to something like 1000 mi/yr. And we convey above the noise of das kapital that internal combustion is most appropriate for inter-community travel, i.e. longer distance.
And of course the fuel for internal combustion is produced by small local biofuel producers, independent enterprises under ten man-powers in size. And the electric is produced by solar thermal or wind power. These condition are mandatory, not optional, for maximizing value and minimizing plunder/destruction/enslavement.
The net results of far left policies are maximum health, happiness and fulfillment of people (and planet). We allocate 1/20th the resources to personal transport that das kapital allocates. Everyone is free to take a walk on the far left side. If you want to be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem, you have to absolutely reject the elites and their grotesque god-monster... DAS KAPITAL!!!
Articles like this reinorce the fact that it our lifestlyes that are unsustainable, not our toys. Every new toy we produce still has the same old drawbacks. Electric cars don't solve surburban sprawl or corporate concentration of power. They won't minimize resource extraction, or contribute to solving the obesity epidemic. They won't reduce the need for coal, NG, nuclear, or hydro power. Instead they will add addtional strain to our existing infrastructure and spur on new development of power stations and power production.
It is necesssary to hold these new "green" products up to scrutiny because they are the beacons of the greenwash efforts by big business. Every new alleged "green" product serves the status quo and reduces real efforts for a sustainable future. If people think they can maintain their exact lifestlye, but only greener, they are deluded. It is our lifestyles that are unsustainable and until that changes no amount of new green products can save us. Most westerners have grown accustomed to self-entitlement and minimal sacrifice. They act like it is their birth right to pollute, to consume, to waste. Until there is a fundamental change in this view, green efforts are wasted.
I am not sure when the driving factor behind corporations became beholding only to the profit motivate providing high Corporate salaries and high investment returns leaving the taxpayers of the world to pick up the cost of the destruction to the surrounding environments where they have done their business and made their short term profits and returns. Back in the old days of the 50/60/70's businesses I thought corporations valued workers and communities at least here in the USA. Of course, those that risk their capital need to be paid a decent return but it has gotten way out of wack and we the people have benefited from the products they have mined, drilled et al and we gotten it at reasonable prices until we have to do the clean up or we loose loved ones to chemical poisoning. So let do it on the front end and the corporation do what they do in a responsible manner and maybe not make quite so much profit, we the people pay a little higher price but don't have to spend our tax dollars on backend, and investors don't make quite as large as return. Just think it would create jobs on the front end when corporations were doing things right the first time. Fairness and equity and equality has to be brought back into the equation.
Multi Million March on Washington. We need your help:100,000 in Wisconsin, x 16 other states = 1 million 600,000. 15 states more states x 50,000 = 1 million 250,000 29 more states at 10,000 = 290,000 total = approx 3 million people in Washington Dec in July before they go home for their August working vacation which will be campaign for money. Let's talk with Ed Schultz and Tom Hartmann, Ring of Fire, John Stewart, Rachel Maddow and other to do it together and coordinate the effort and plan for the next four months. Copy and paste this and e-mail to all of them. We the people have to be in their face, I don't think alot of them really got the message with what the wonderful people of Wisconsin did for three weeks straight. These people have gotten so arrogant and they have so much money and big corporations backing them, they think they are invincible. I am not social media literate to start a national awareness and desire to join the march or sit in, I need help.
It has always been so. It is called "Capitalism." Since it arose, fairly recently, it has been on a straight path to where we are now, and no other outcome could have been possible. The many have always suffered for the benefit of the few. As more and more capital amasses in fewer and fewer hands, and as most all communities and peoples have been destroyed, workers and resources have been exploited as much as they possibly can. we are entering a final stage, a frantic and cataclysmic catastrophe as the power of capital is wielded in more and more brutal and dangerous ways. It is a juggernaut, a destroyer of worlds.
Better times in the 50/60/70's were the result of hard won gains by organized Labor, not nicer Capitalism.
In a rugged individualist nation such as the USA, the need to switch from cars to public transportation such as buses and trains will be the very last idea on the list. Instead, all we have here is changing from one type of guzzler to another. When will this sick and rotten nation put their feet down, hang up the keys, and learn to walk, socialize, and ride together at ease? :.(
I agree with you, and I am tired of Americans who brag about being "rugged individualists". Like the Moral Majority, they are neither.
The truth is that Southerners, Mid-Westerners and Texans, who style themselves as rugged individualists, are actually flabby suburban conformists.
They are paranoid people with guns, that's all.
If there is some way we can get Texans and the rest of the midwesterners to have a heart for horses, we just might have a chance at getting those fat slobs to their senses. I used to come across more horses when I was very young girl in the 1980s. The more small farms disappeared, the less I could see a horse let alone ride one for a pastime. I hope Mother Nature forces this nation to fail for raping her in the form of oil drilling and coal and uranium mining !
As for guns, I keep thinking in anger that all that metal going towards manufacturing guns and other weapons of mass destruction would be better off being put towards constructive manufacturing such as trains and rails.
I am a midwesterner and I am not a fat slob. The only fat slobs I know sit around in Starbucks whining about energy problems while they blog eating their pastries.
I also own two guns. In rural areas, we live a long way from 911 rescues (which don't even happen in urban areas - check out The Wire sometime.
I own 24 acres - 20 of which is woodland. I have defended the trees at great expense to me from utilities that would like to cut my land to ribbons in order to provide water for developers.
Also, I'd like to say I have an organic garden and plan on developing my own water supply. I also have taken steps to turn my north pasture into a meadow. Next year I will construct a large pond - drinking supply to birds and deer - and will use it to irrigate a larger organic garden for blackberries and corn production. I will also build a root cellar to permit me to store these items in a relatively energy efficient manner. I also downed limbs into fire wood that I use to heat in the winter and give to my "urban" friends.
"I also downed limbs into fire wood that I use to heat in the winter and give to my "urban" friends"...and spread the emerald ash-borer and other pests in the process! Don't do that!
I am curious how many miles do you drive (in presumably a pickup truck) per year?
I have seen a number of people and alternate-living communities try a rural rustic lifestyle who end up only increasing their carbon footprints in the process,
Sabo,
Write me at jazzmanneobop@yahoo.com if you'd like to continue our discussion. Regards mileage per year - 15,000; I just bought a trailer and a hitch for the four or five times a year when it would be helpful to have a pickup. Regards vehicle - a 1999 Lexus RX-300, purchased at a time when I was living a different life. I plan to move to a energy efficient vehicle soon, but have been putting off a purchase to see where the EV goes; if not, I'll buy a used Prius. Regards wood, my wood only to friends who live within 10 miles of me. Any diseases my oaks, hickorys, walnuts, cedars, locusts, or elms have is also a part of their ecosystems as well. It has been an amazing ride - this transition to rural life by a former suburbanite/urbanite.