Iranians Ponder Future U.S.-Iranian Relations in an Obama Administration
Travelling to Iran as a Citizen Diplomat for Peace
Just a month ago, while Israeli Prime Minister Olmert and U.S. President Bush met for the last time as heads of state in late November, 2008 in Washington and continued their relentless bellicose rhetoric toward Iran, I and three activists from the United States were in Iran as citizen diplomats talking with Iranians on their views of a new American presidential administration and their hopes for their country.
We went to Iran with no illusions. We knew well the history of United States involvement in Iran. We knew of Iranian support for organizations U.S. administrations have labeled as "terrorist" groups. And we were very familiar with international concerns about Iran's nuclear enrichment program and human rights record.
We wanted to talk with members of the Iranian government as well as with ordinary Iranians. We ended up meeting with officials in the President's office and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and with two women members of the Iranian Parliament (Majles). We also spoke with businesspersons, members of nongovernmental organizations, writers, filmmakers and university students and faculty.
Writing about the concerns of the Iranians we met leaves one open to comments of being one-sided, not speaking with enough Iranians to provide the "real" voices and of picking and choosing voices to record. I acknowledge the possible criticism in advance, but believe our discussions are worthy of presentation to those who have not been so fortunate to have travelled to Iran to see and hear for themselves. So here goes.
Iranians Want Peace Not War
Codepink Women for Peace co-founders Jodie Evans and Medea Benjamin, Fellowship of Reconciliation Iran program director Laila Zand and I were reminded in virtually every conversation that Iranians want peace with the United States, not war. Not one person in Iran told us that first, she believed her country would begin a war with the United States, or any other country to include Israel, and second, that if the United States initiated military actions against Iran, that those actions would resolve problems in Iran or with the United States.
They reminded us that, unlike the United States that has invaded and occupied Iran's neighbors Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran has not attacked any country in the last 200 years. They reminded us that Iran was the victim of an eight year war in the 1980s when Iraq invaded Iran and in which the United States and European countries provided Iraq with military equipment, intelligence and chemical weapons that were used at least 50 times against Iranian civilians and military forces. We learned that during the eight year war the Revolution's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini had mandated that it would be against Islamic precepts to bomb Iraqi cities or use chemical or unconventional weapons on Iraq-and Iranian military forces complied-even though the Iraqi military bombed Iranian cities including Tehran and used chemical weapons on Iranians.
Most Iranians Have Issues With Their Government, As Most Americans Have Issues With Theirs
Iran is a county with a population of about 70 million (two and one-half times as many people as Iraq) and a geographic area about the size of Alaska (four times as large as Iraq). Tehran, the Iranian capital, has 7.5 million people in the urban area and 15 million in surrounding areas. It is a modern city, with a beautiful subway, cosmopolitan shops, as well as a huge traditional bazaar and an incredible number of cars, trucks and motorcycles. Tehran and Iran have recovered from the Iraq war that ended 20 years ago and are holding up remarkably well to U.S. and international sanctions.
Most Iranians with whom we talked openly said they have issues with many aspects of their government. Many said the Iranian people share a common dislike with Americans--dislike of their governments, noting that President Bush's and the U.S. Congress's approval ratings with the American people are extremely low, as is Iranian President Ahmadinejad's ratings, particularly in urban areas. But, they strongly said they do not want outside interference in the internal political events of their country and definitely do not want a political system and government installed by invasion and occupation. Their democracy, even with its flaws, is better than a U.S. enforced democracy, they said.
America's best policy would be to treat Iran with respect and not with threats of military action. Any attempt to overthrow the Iranian government would be met with stiff opposition, even from those who don't like the government, they repeated. "Regime change" will come in due time and in an Iranian manner.
U.S. Interference in Iran's Internal Affairs
Several reminded us that in
January, 1981 the United States signed the Algiers Accord, in which
the U.S. agreed "not to intervene directly or indirectly, politically
or militarily, in the Iran's internal affairs." The Algiers
Accord was the agreement signed by the United States and Iran to end
the 444 day US Embassy hostage crisis. (www.parstimes.com/history/
However, this Accord has been
violated numerous times by the United States. Investigative journalist
Seymour Hersh wrote that, in late 2007, President Bush requested and
received from Democratic Congressional leadership $400 million reprogrammed
from previous authorizations to fund a Presidential Finding that substantially
increased covert activities designed to destabilize Iran's religious
leadership. These covert actions involved support for the Ahwazi Arab
and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. Hersh also
revealed that United States Special Operations Forces had been conducting
cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization,
since 2007, including seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of
the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and taking them to Iraq for interrogation,
and the pursuit of "high-value targets" who could be captured or
killed. Hersh said operations by the Central Intelligence Agency and
the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) were significantly expanded
in 2007 by this authorization. (http://www.newyorker.com/
Iran's Nuclear Program
Iran has had a nuclear program
for almost 50 years, having purchased a research reactor from the United
States in 1959, during the Shah's reign. The Iranian government states
that its nuclear energy program will allow increased electricity generation
to reduce consumption of gas and oil to allow export of more of its
fossil fuels. The U.S. National Intelligence Estimate (NIE)
made public December 3, 2007 concluded with "high confidence" that the military-run
Iranian nuclear weapons program had been shut down in 2003, but
that Iran's enrichment program could still provide enough enriched
uranium to produce a nuclear weapon by the middle of the next decade,
a timeframe unchanged from previous estimates. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/
Virtually everyone with whom we spoke said they believe that their country has a right to have a nuclear enrichment program and to produce nuclear energy. Many questioned why Iran would ever need a nuclear weapons program, unless as leverage against the United States' 30 year antagonism toward their country. They reminded us that Iran is a member of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (unlike nuclear-states Israel, India and Pakistan that refused to join the NPT and developed nuclear weapons purposefully outside the treaty.) Additionally, they insist that Iran is in compliance with the IAEA standards according to the November, 2008 IAEA report, despite the interpretations of the report by the United States and Israel.
Some reminded us that on August
9, 2005, at the IAEA meeting in Vienna, 60 years after the US atomic
bombing of Japan, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei announced
that he had issued a fatwa, or religious mandate, forbidding the production,
stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons. Importantly, the Supreme
Leader controls the Iranian military and the nuclear program of Iran,
not the President of the country, Mr. Ahmadinejad. (http://www.mathaba.net/0_
Iran, Israel and the United States
Iran, Israel and United States
have had a disturbing, but fascinating, history over the past 30 years.
Iran's current relationship with Israel and Western countries seems
to be defined by President Ahmadinejad's October, 2005 widely reported,
but tragically and dangerously mistranslated and misinterpreted, statement
that "Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth."
According to highly respected Middle Eastern scholar Juan Coles, Ahmadinejad
was "not making a threat, but was quoting a saying of Ayatollah Khomeini
that urged pro-Palestinian activists in Iran not give up hope-- that
the occupation of Jerusalem was no more a continued inevitability than
had been the hegemony of the Shah's government. Whatever this quotation
from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did
not say that "Israel must be wiped off the map" with the implication
that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people." (http://www.themiddleeastnow.
But the history of Iranian-Israeli relationships is more than just Ahmadinejad's misinterpreted statement. Israel, like the United States, had a long history of selling arms to the Shah, which Iran's revolutionary government was willing to exploit secretly, despite its public animosity toward the state of Israel. In the early years (1980-82) of the Iranian Revolution and during the war with Iraq, Ayatollah Khomeini's government sold oil to Israel in exchange for weapons and spare parts. Even during the American hostage crisis (1979-1981) in which 52 U.S. diplomats were held for 444 days, Israel made weapons deals with Iran. Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State Alexander Haig gave permission to Israel to sell U.S.-made military spare parts for fighter planes to Iran in early 1981.
In another remarkable relationship known as the Iran-Contra affair, funds from the sale to Iran of U.S. weapons by Israel in 1985-1986 were used by U.S. Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, National Security Advisor Admiral John Poindexter, National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane (President Reagan's first NSA) and National Security Council staffer U.S. Marine Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North to fund the Contras' war against the revolutionary government in Nicaragua. This was in violation of a Congressional ban on funding the Contras and took place during the Iraq-Iran war when the U.S. was also providing military equipment including chemical weapons to Iraq, Iran's opponent in the war. Iranians remember that those convicted for their actions including Weinberger, Poindexter, McFarlane and North, were pardoned by President George H.W. Bush who was Vice-President during the period of criminal actions conducted by government officials during the illegal Contra Affair.
Iranian Support for Hamas and Hezbollah
When asked about one of the most contentious points in U.S.-Israeli-Iranian relationships, the Iranian government's support for Hamas in Palestine and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, Iranians pointed out that the U.S. has consistently and heavily funded Israel during its 62-year existence (U.S. provides about $4 billion per year to the Israeli government and the Israeli Defense Forces.) Many Iranians suggested that Palestinians who have lived in refugee camps during those 62 years must be provided assistance. Hezbollah began in 1982 as a small militia fighting against the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and is now not only a military group but a political organization that won seats in the Lebanese government, has a radio and satellite television-station and provides social development and humanitarian assistance for much of southern Lebanon. Iranians strongly felt that Hamas, the elected (and they emphasize elected) government of Gaza, needs financial support, particularly now in current extraordinary humanitarian crisis due to the lengthy Israeli blockade of foods and services into Gaza.
Iraq
On the question of Iraq, many Iranians who lived in the border regions with Iraq during the eight year war, said they personally knew the agony of deaths, injuries, destruction and other costs of war and do not wish that on their former enemies. They talked of the irony of the political outcome of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq in which many Shi'a Iraqis, who lived in exile in Iran during Saddam's regime and have long standing ties to the Iranian government, are now in leadership positions in the new U.S. backed Iraqi government.
Afghanistan
Other Iranians reminded us of Iran's help to the U.S. in 2001 and 2002 in the early days of the U.S. military action in Afghanistan. When we asked about recent United States intelligence analysis that indicated Iranian support for the Taliban, we were met with laughs. The Taliban are of the Sunni branch of Islam while the Iranians are of the Shi'a branch. They reminded us that in 1998 the Taliban murdered 11 Iranian diplomats and one Iranian newsperson at the Iranian consulate in Afghan northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif, an incident which Iranians have not forgotten. The Iranians consider the Taliban their adversaries and feel that a Taliban government in Afghanistan would make the region more unstable.
Sanctions are Drying Up Lines of Credit for Businesses
We found that Iranians are proud of their creativity to outwit the 29 years of various sanctions the U.S. has placed on their country. They say the U.S. has only isolated itself commercially by its sanctions as Iran trades with many other nations. The Europeans, Chinese, Russians and Indians have had flourishing businesses with Iran. However, the recent international sanctions clampdown on lines of credit for Iranian banks has had a rippling effect into the business community, where money for loans to Iranian businesses for purchase of materials is drying up. Oil dollars that paid for an incredible amount of imports are drying up with the downturn in oil prices, and the government is beginning to reevaluate the large subsidizes given to the population for food, gasoline and services.
We spoke with four businesswomen (an architect, a chemist, a business consultant and an agricultural professional) who said each of their businesses had been affected negatively with the shrinking of money available for purchase of materials from outside the country and for continuation of current levels of operation or expansion of their business.
One of the most of incredible
stories we heard about the effect of the sanctions was on the alternative
energy sector. Since there is so much rhetoric in the U.S. about
the dangers of the Iranian nuclear program, we decided to see if there
were alternative energy companies in the country. On the aircraft flying
into Iran, we met a European businessman who said he would put us in
touch with the director of a wind energy company. He introduced
us by telephone to the director of Saba Niroo, an Iranian company that
makes wind turbines and is the largest regional wind power manufacturer
(http://www.sabaniroo.co.ir/
However, the director told us that because of U.S. sanctions pressure, Vestas, a Danish wind energy company (http://www.vestas.com/) with whom the Iranian company has had a contractual relationship, has now refused to honor its 15 year contract to furnish critical parts for the wind turbines.
As a result, Saba Niroo has 50 huge, 70 foot long wind blades and corresponding chassis and installation towers lying useless in its warehouse and warehouse yard. Saba Niroo may go bankrupt in six months if it is unable to complete and sell the wind turbines-all because of U.S. sanctions and pressure.
As a part of citizen diplomacy, we decided to defy sanctions and show our support of alternative energy programs, by purchasing shares in Saba Niroo. We have also decided to purchase shares in the Danish company Vestas, which has a big U.S. headquarters in Portland, Oregon. As shareholders, we could put shareholder pressure on Vestas to honor its contract with the Iranian company.
Join the campaign "Winds
for Change" to support for alternative energy and for sanctions breaking
and purchase a shares with us. (http://www.commondreams.org/
Human Rights in Iran
On the question of human rights
in Iran, executions, political prisoners, rights of gays and lesbians,
many Iranians strongly want changes in their government's policies.
In response to a question in September, 24, 2007 from an audience at
Columbia University in New York, President Ahmadinejad drew widespread
criticism when his answer was translated as "In Iran, we don't have
homosexuals in our country , we do not have this phenomenon. I
don't know who told you that we have it." In October, 2007, one
of Ahmadinejad's media advisor's said that the President had meant
that "compared to American society, we don't have many homosexuals--In
Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/
Homosexual acts are punishable
by law: sodomy (defined as "sexual intercourse with a male) is punishable
by execution and punishment for "lesbian acts" is 100 lashes.
However, conviction takes the testimony of four witnesses and if the
accused recants before witnesses testify, the reportedly accused will
not be punished. The discussion of human rights of youth and gay youth
combined in the much publicized 2005 execution by hanging of two young
men in Iran. Some say they were executed because they were solely
because they were gay and others say the
two young men, minors, were convicted and hanged because they criminally
sexually assaulted another youth. http://www.washingtonpost.com/
Interestingly, sex change is legal in Iran and there are more sex change operations in Iran than any other country except Thailand. The Iranian government provides grants up to $4500 for the operation and further funding for hormone therapy on the theory that persons wanting a sex change have a "treatable disorder."
Iranians want change to come from within their society, not imposed by another government, especially one, as we were reminded, that has its own human rights issues, including incarceration of the highest percentage of its citizenry of any country in the world, high rates of execution (Texas in particular), state-sponsored kidnapping from other countries (known in the Bush administration as extraordinary rendition) , imprisonment without due process, extrajudicial courts and a military and an intelligence agency that are notorious for torture.
Women's Issues
When thinking of women in Iran, many in the West immediately respond with comments about the clothing women must wear. Few realize that 70% of all university students are women, 30% of doctors in Iran are women, 80% of women are literate (88% of men can read), women receive 90 days of maternity leave at 2/3rd pay and right to return to her job, and the number of children per woman has declined from 7 in 1979 to 1.7 now. Abortions are illegal in Iran, but it's the only country I know of were couples must take a class on modern contraception before being issued a marriage license. It has the only state-supported condom factory in the Middle East and it produces 45 million condoms a year in 30 different colors, shapes and flavors.
In one of the most successful instances of women's grassroots organizational pressure on the government, in September, 2008, over 100 advocates for women's rights successfully lobbied against proposed changes to marriage laws which were detrimental to women and forced the Iranian Parliament to drop the regressive amendments.
Clothing Restrictions
Yes, there are mandatory clothing rules for women, including wearing a scarf and clothing that covers the arms to the wrists and legs to the ankles, and they are cited by Western women as a form of human rights concern. In fact, as our aircraft arrived at the Tehran International Airport terminal, the aircraft crew announced "By the law of the country of Iran, women cannot leave the aircraft without a scarf on their heads-and there will be an Iranian official outside the aircraft to return women who are not properly covered." While some Iranian women say wearing the scarf is burdensome, others are comfortable with the dress code. In any case, clothing restrictions are not the main focus of women's rights advocates. Rights to custody of children and property after divorce, right to education and health care are more important than mandatory wearing of a scarf.
In the Month Since Our Visit
Sparks Fly Over Iranian President's BBC Christmas message-- "Jesus Christ Would Stand Up to Bullying, Ill-Tempered and Expansionist Powers"
In what they surely knew would be a very controversial request, the British Broadcasting Company (BBC) asked Iranian President Ahmadinejad to deliver the BBC channel 4's traditional "alternative Christmas message" to the Queen's Christmas address.
The head of
BBC News and Current Affairs said the decision to ask President Ahmadinejad
was because "As the leader of one of the most powerful states in the
Middle East, President Ahmadinejad's views are enormously influential.
As we approach a critical time in international relations, we are offering
our viewers an insight into an alternative world view. Channel
4's role is to allow viewers to hear directly from people of world importance
with sufficient context to enable them to make up their own minds." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/
It turned out that Ahmadinejad's short, 36 second message in Farsi with English subtitles broadcast on Christmas Day, 2008, probably resonated with much of the world, but predictably provoked a British government hornet's nest with his comment that if Jesus Christ lived today he would stand up against bullying powers. "If Christ were on earth today, undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers." Ahmadinejad, a devout Muslim, criticized the "indifference of some governments and powers" towards the teachings of the "divine prophets, including Jesus Christ" and said that "the general will of nations" was for a return to "human values". "The crises in society, the family, morality, politics, security and the economy ... have come about because the prophets have been forgotten, the Almighty has been forgotten and some leaders are estranged from God."
Ahmadinejad's remarks received very little media coverage in the United States, miniscule when compared to the news story of the month-- President Bush's encounter with the Iraq shoe thrower. However, a spokeswoman for the UK's Foreign and Commonwealth Office in predicting anticipated Bush administration displeasure said: "President Ahmadinejad has during his time in office made a series of appalling anti-Semitic statements. The British media are rightly free to make their own editorial choices, but this invitation will cause offence and bemusement not just at home but amongst friendly countries abroad."
Labor Member of Parliament (MP) Louise Ellman, chairwoman of the Labor Jewish Movement, said: "I condemn Channel 4's decision to give an unchallenged platform to a dangerous fanatic who denies the Holocaust, while preparing for another, and claims homosexuality does not exist while his regime hangs gay young men from cranes in the street. Conservative MP Mark Pritchard, a member of the Commons all-party media group, said: "Channel 4 has given a platform to a man who wants to annihilate Israel and continues to persecute Christians at Christmas time. "
Media Relations Not a Strong Suit of the Iranian Government
It's almost as if the Iranian President Ahmadinejad, who is up for election in the summer, 2009, has hired lame-ducks U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert as his foreign policy, national security and media consultants. How else could the Iranian government have come up with so many incidents in the past weeks that give ammunition to those in the United States and Israel who do not want dialogue with Iran on nuclear and regional security issues, who want human rights issues to publicize and who wish ill to the Iranian government and people?
For example, on December 22, 2008, the Iranian government closed down two human rights organizations headed by 2005 Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi. The government accused the organization of carrying out illegal activities, such as publishing statements, writing letters to international organizations, and holding news conferences. The Center for Participation in Clearing Mine Areas helps victims of landmines in Iran and Defenders of Human Rights Center reports human rights violations in Iran, defends political prisoners, and supports families of those prisoners. Ebadi was also taken into police custody briefly following the raids.
And the first week in December,
2008, in a campaign against Western cultural influence in Iran, Qaemshahr
city police arrested 49 people during a crackdown on "satanic" fashions
and unsuitable clothing and closed five barbershops for "promoting
Western hairstyles." (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
And now, there is the predictable increased international criticism about the Russian government providing the Iranian government with S300s, anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems, triggered by the Bush administration's decision to put a "missile shield" in Poland and the Czech Republic. On December 23, 2008 United Press International (UPI) reported that the Russian government had begun delivery to the Iranian government of some of its most modern anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems, the S-300s. These missile systems can shoot down ballistic missiles and aircraft at low and high altitudes as far away as 100 miles. Iran conducted well-publicized air force and ballistic missile defense exercises in September, 2008.
The Bush administration's
ballistic poke in the eye of Russia and Iran by the deployment of
ballistic missiles in Poland and a radar in the Czech Republic "to
protect against attacks from rogue states" (http://www.globalsecurity.
Iranians Not Optimistic About Future Relations with the United States Under an Obama Administration
Despite President-elect Obama's comments during the Presidential campaign that he would have dialogue with the Iranian government without preconditions, many Iranians with whom we spoke are not optimistic that there will be meaningful change in U.S. policy during an Obama administration. Citing appointments of former Israeli Defense Force member and US Congressman Rahm Emanuel, as Chief of Staff, Hillary Clinton, who during the summer campaign said she would "obliterate" Iran if Iran used nuclear weapons against Israel (a statement that Iranians find incomprehensible since it is Israel that has nuclear weapons, not Iran, and Israel continues to threaten Iran), and Dennis Ross, the Middle East negotiator during the Clinton and Bush administrations, Iranians said they hoped the AIPAC lobby in the United States had not already determined Obama's agenda toward Iran.
Iranians Want Peace
To emphasize again, the overwhelming comment from Iranians during our visit was that they want peace with the United States. They hope that the new President of the United States will talk with their government to resolve issues, instead of resorting to the threat, much less, the use of military action.
Our Future with Iran - A Hope for Diplomacy Not Military Action
As we have seen from the American invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq, the use of our military to resolve security issues kills and injures innocent civilians, destroys cities and villages, creates more people who dislike/hate our country and who may be willing to use violence against us, and jeopardizes, not enhances, the security of the United States.
As a retired US Army Colonel and a former US diplomat, I hope that the Obama administration will throw away the old template of 30 years of crisis, threats of military action, vindictiveness and retaliation and look to diplomacy to develop a peaceful future with Iran!
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15 Comments so far
Show AllAxe Lindstrom
Older Iranians can remember that the USA conspired with Britain in 1953 to take out their duly elected president, Mohammed Mossadegh (Musadiq). His sin? Attempting to nationalize the Iranian oil fields, which Britain had essentially owned lock, stock, and barrel since the 1920's. Truman and Acheson were somewhat sympathetic toward Mossadegh; however, when Eisenhower was elected in1952, the Dulles brothers then helped "tar" Mossadegh as a communist, and he was successfully removed with the CIA's help. We and the Brits then put in the Shah. Thus, the Iranians are justifiably suspicious of our motives in the Middle East. To them and others, OIL is the reason and has been for over 50 years. NOTE:
The trend in the world since the 1950's is toward nationalization of oil, NOT privatization. In that sense Mossadegh had the ultimate triumph, for his country and others, such as Saudi Arabia. Will we be able to reverse that historic trend in Iraq?
Not likely.
Well done Ann!
Aide to Israel is closer to 30 billion a year. There is direct military aide that unlike any other nation does not require Israel to spend all of its money on US products. The money is issued outright and they keep the interest that accrues. No other nation receiving US military aide has this ability. Israel's arms industry is huge and operates in direct competition with the US.
There are a host of other programs that push money into Israel's economy which unlike the US boasted a surplus in the past year.
AIPAC, the US Israeli lobbying group receives funding and from the extremist Likud Party and works closely with them. Though their membership is only 12 % of American Jews and their opinions do not represent mainstream Jewish thought, they have become extremely powerful.
Working in concert with fifty other organizations they threaten US lawmakers with charges of anti-semitism and the loss of their congressional seats if they do not preserve the "special status" of Israel.
Israel is nuclear nation that unlike Iran has refused to sign the non nuclear proliferation treaty.
Experts agree that Israel could not afford to make war on its neighbors and occupy their lands without US taxpayer support.
Ann Wright would be an excellent Secretary of State in the likely event that Hillary Clinton will fail to bring about healthy relationships with other nations in the world.
I agree!
She would have been a far better choice than Ms. Clinton from the point of view of actually running a state department.
However, from the point of view of keeping your friends close and your enemies even closer I think Hillary's appointment is a master-stroke. She now must either support the re-election or resign. Difficult to see how she might then split the Dems in 2012 in this circumstance. And as we have seen, she can certainly do it. If the economy hadn't melted down at exactly the right point I would just about bet you that we'd have seen a Dem-party split and McCain would have won with a minority of votes cast.
The strain would have killed him and now we'd have President Palin! Vindictive, ignorant, and with a fierce God-fearin' will to stay that way!
They wont get peace as long as many Israelis want war.
Check the polls.
Bush is their favorite president.
Israel was willing to decimate the coastline of Lebanon to try and get back two soldiers who were captured as a bargaining chip for the thousands held by Israel.
Creating an ecological disaster for two occupation soldiers?
Israel really has its priorities straight--oh wait, I forgot they believe they are the Chosen people of the One True God(sorry Zeus, you may be more flashy than ol Jehovah but that's the way it is).
So they can do what they want because we are of course all underlings to them.
The OT does talk about how Jews have to free jewish slaves after 7 years but they can keep non jews forever.
With a book like that as your moral code, watch out.
Iranian people are a wonderful people, beautiful culture, amazing old history, lovely art, magnificent carpets, gorgeous language and did I mention I love jujeh Kabob?
I think we should leave the Iranian people alone to get the rid of the rabid mullahs themselves. They don't like Achmedinijad or their rulers much either. The more we saber-rattle the more those bastards consolidate their power. Let's empower the youth and the democracy activists. This is the best way to move forward.
You know. This is an excellent comment.
The US has not been buying Iranian oil now for a long time (though we probably actually are through third-party middle men).
We have no trade with Iran. That's what 'sanctions' mean.
Consequently, Iran is, from a diplomatic point of view, a lot like Vietnam or Cuba. It is a place with which we have had a bad history but not one which gives our own country any serious grief.
Yet, like Cuba, our government feels the need to exact some kind of revenge.
And really unlike Vietnam.
But in all these cases we really could just leave them alone. That would probably be the best diplomatic solution for the near-term. Leave Iran alone and let it fall out of the lime-light.
We in the USA could probably do a lot better with most of the non-European nations if we just left them alone.
Since we seem wholly incapable of dealing with other nations respectfully.
The "wipe Israel" accusation is articulately debunked by Arash Norouzi in this May 26, 2007 article at AntiWar.com:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025
Ann Wright quotes (MP) Louise Ellman, chairwoman of the Labor Jewish Movement, describing Ahmadinejad as "...a dangerous fanatic who denies the Holocaust, while preparing for another..."
In the Holocaust, did the Nazis not seek the elimination of Jews from their own society?
If Iran were "...preparing for another...", would it not similarly seek the elimination of its own Jews?
About 25,000 Jews live in Iran and most are determined to remain no matter what the pressures - as proud of their Iranian culture as of their Jewish roots.
Jewish community leader Unees Hammami, quoted in this BBC report from September 22, 2006, says the father of Iran's revolution, Imam Khomeini, recognised Jews as a religious minority that should be protected.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm
As a result Jews have one representative in the Iranian parliament.
"Imam Khomeini made a distinction between Jews and Zionists and he supported us," says Mr Hammami.
The "wipe Israel" was but one comment. There were many others speeches and military parades flushing the words "Death to Israel".
Here is one example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
Iran's leadership doesn't seek the elimination of all Jews, but only the Zionist Jews, which are perhaps 90% of all Jews. That makes them somewhat better than the Nazis.
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Another piece of information related to Iran and Zionism.
One of the first great Zionists in history was the Persian king Cyrus the Great (600BC- 526BC).
He allowed the Jews, who were captive in Babylon, to return to Zion and rebuild Jerusalem.
… that 90% is number of Jews who think Zionists are NOT to be supported, nor trusted.
It's that koolaid drinking ( talking ) again LETTO -- you're supposed to save it for the "marks".
One mistake you are mistaking, you are conflating the views of Ahmadinejad with that of Khomeini.
Ahmadinejad really has not much of any real power. The Iranian president is not equal to the American president. He's more equivalent to the German, or Israeli president. A figurehead.
Ahmadinejad is loud, but he's NOT in charge.
Ann Wright
Thank you, Jodie Evans, Medea Benjamin and Laila Zand for the citizen diplomacy and candor.
I am reminded of the cultural legacy of Iran and the Muslim world which has produced the likes of poets, philosophers, physicians, medical knowledge and seminal thinkers beloved throughout the world generated by Muslim spirituality. I think particularly of Ibn Sina, also recognized as Avisenna (370/980-428/1037). The contributions to humanity in medicine, philosophy, mathmatics - all seminal and of profound contribution to humanity.
A man by the name of Henry Corbin published a French translation with subsequent English translation by Trask of The Visionary Receital - Hayy Ibn Yakzan (Living, son of the Awakened) - by Avicenna in the 60s. It remains one of the most moving poetic narratives on the human soul I have ever read - I can only imagine the beauty of reading it with an experience of the culture and knowledge of the original language.
These aspects of being alive I hold as golden threads among peoples and deeply love the spirit that sustains. This I hold for all of us. That we see a day when our leaders are raised with the profound love in restraint and wisdom that the best of humanity and the creation again flourish in our governments.
May that golden thread always carry Jodie Evans and Medea Benjamin Laila Zand, yourself and all with whom you come into contact.
The US has friendly relations with Saudi Arabia, incomprehensible it has none with Iran.
Great read. Bookmarked.
Ann, everytime I think I am about worn out I sense your presence, feel your voice and courage, and know I cannot quit. Thank you for giving us all the strength, guidance and courage to continue this struggle against insanity.
Sioux Rose
ANN WRIGHT: Thank you for being a woman of rare courage, fortitude and integrity. And I thank you for your efforts (and those of Code Pink) on behalf of justice and decency for all world citizens.
Many in the military are trained to think of bravery in terms of the use of brute force. Those who rise above those lower impulses and lead the way to peace among nations are the TRUE HEROS (and heroines) of our times. Bravo to you!
And peace and good will towards all our brothers and sisters in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.