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The Wall Street Occupiers and the Democratic Party
Will the Wall Street Occupiers morph into a movement that has as much impact on the Democratic Party as the Tea Party has had on the GOP? Maybe. But there are reasons for doubting it.
Tea Partiers have been a mixed blessing for the GOP establishment – a source of new ground troops and energy but also a pain in the assets with regard to attracting independent voters. As Rick Perry and Mitt Romney square off, that pain will become more evident.
So far the Wall Street Occupiers have helped the Democratic Party. Their inchoate demand that the rich pay their fair share is tailor-made for the Democrats’ new plan for a 5.6 percent tax on millionaires, as well as the President’s push to end the Bush tax cut for people with incomes over $250,000 and to limit deductions at the top.
And the Occupiers give the President a potential campaign theme. “These days, a lot of folks who are doing the right thing aren’t rewarded and a lot of folks who aren’t doing the right thing are rewarded,” he said at his news conference this week, predicting that the frustration fueling the Occupiers will “express itself politically in 2012 and beyond until people feel like once again we’re getting back to some old-fashioned American values.”
But if Occupy Wall Street coalesces into something like a real movement, the Democratic Party may have more difficulty digesting it than the GOP has had with the Tea Party.
After all, a big share of both parties’ campaign funds comes from the Street and corporate board rooms. The Street and corporate America also have hordes of public-relations flacks and armies of lobbyists to do their bidding – not to mention the unfathomably deep pockets of the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey’s and Karl Rove’s SuperPACs. Even if the Occupiers have access to some union money, it’s hardly a match.
Yet the real difficulty lies deeper. A little history is helpful here.
In the early decades of the twentieth century, the Democratic Party had no trouble embracing economic populism. It charged the large industrial concentrations of the era – the trusts – with stifling the economy and poisoning democracy. In the 1912 campaign Woodrow Wilson promised to wage “a crusade against powers that have governed us … that have limited our development … that have determined our lives … that have set us in a straightjacket to so as they please.” The struggle to break up the trusts would be, in Wilson’s words, nothing less than a “second struggle for emancipation.”
Wilson lived up to his words – signing into law the Clayton Antitrust Act (which not only strengthened antitrust laws but also exempted unions from their reach), establishing the Federal Trade Commission (to root out “unfair acts and practices in commerce”), and creating the first national income tax.
Years later Franklin D. Roosevelt attacked corporate and financial power by giving workers the right to unionize, the 40-hour workweek, unemployment insurance, and Social Security. FDR also instituted a high marginal income tax on the wealthy.
Not surprisingly, Wall Street and big business went on the attack. In the 1936 campaign, Roosevelt warned against the “economic royalists” who had impressed the whole of society into service. “The hours men and women worked, the wages they received, the conditions of their labor … these had passed beyond the control of the people, and were imposed by this new industrial dictatorship,” he warned. What was at stake, Roosevelt thundered, was nothing less than the “survival of democracy.” He told the American people that big business and finance were determined to unseat him. “Never before, in all our history, have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred!”
By the 1960s, though, the Democratic Party had given up on populism. Gone from presidential campaigns were tales of greedy businessmen and unscrupulous financiers. This was partly because the economy had changed profoundly. Postwar prosperity grew the middle class and reduced the gap between rich and poor. By the mid-1950s, a third of all private-sector employees were unionized, and blue-collar workers got generous wage and benefit increases.
By then Keynesianism had become a widely-accepted antidote to economic downturns – substituting the management of aggregate demand for class antagonism. Even Richard Nixon purportedly claimed “we’re all Keynesians now.” Who needed economic populism when fiscal and monetary policy could even out the business cycle, and the rewards of growth were so widely distributed?
But there was another reason for the Democrats’ increasing unease with populism. The Vietnam War spawned an anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian New Left that distrusted government as much if not more than it distrusted Wall Street and big business. Richard Nixon’s electoral victory in 1968 was accompanied by a deep rift between liberal Democrats and the New Left, which continued for decades.
Enter Ronald Reagan, master storyteller, who jumped into the populist breach. If Reagan didn’t invent right-wing populism in America he at least gave it full-throated voice. “Government is the problem, not the solution,” he intoned, over and over again. In Reagan’s view, Washington insiders and arrogant bureaucrats stifled the economy and hobbled individual achievement.
The Democratic Party never regained its populist footing. To be sure, Bill Clinton won the presidency in 1992 promising to “fight for the forgotten middle class” against the forces of “greed,” but Clinton inherited such a huge budget deficit from Reagan and George H.W. Bush that he couldn’t put up much of a fight. And after losing his bid for universal health care, Clinton himself announced that the “era of big government” was over – and he proved it by ending welfare.
Democrats have not been the ones to engage in class warfare. That was the distinct product of right-wing Republican populism. Anybody recall the Republican ad in the 2004 presidential election describing Democrats as a “tax-hiking, government spending, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak Show?”
Republicans repeatedly attacked John Kerry as a “Massachusetts liberal” who was part of the “Chardonnay-and-brie set.” George W. Bush mocked Kerry for finding a “new nuance” each day on Iraq – drawing out the word “nuance” to emphasize Kerry’s French cultural elitism. “In Texas, we don’t do nuance,” he said, to laughter and applause. House Republican leader Tom DeLay opened his campaign speeches by saying “Good morning or, as John Kerry would say, Bonjour.”
The Tea Party has been quick to pick up the same class theme. At the Conservative Political Action Conference of 2010, Minnesota Governor Tom Pawlenty attacked “the elites” who believe Tea Partiers are “not as sophisticated because a lot of them didn’t go to Ivy League Schools” and “don’t hang out at … Chablis-drinking, Brie-eating parties in San Francisco.” After his son Rand Paul was elected for Kentucky’s Senate seat that May, Congressman Ron Paul explained that voters want to “get rid of the power people who run the show, the people who think they’re above everyone else.”
Which brings us to the present day. Barack Obama is many things but he is as far from left-wing populism as any Democratic president in modern history. True, he once had the temerity to berate “fat cats” on Wall Street, but that remark was the exception – and subsequently caused him endless problems on the Street.
To the contrary, Obama has been extraordinarily solicitous of Wall Street and big business – making Timothy Geithner Treasury Secretary and de facto ambassador from the Street; seeing to it that Bush’s Fed appointee, Ben Bernanke, got another term; and appointing GE Chair Jeffrey Immelt to head his jobs council.
Most tellingly, it was President Obama’s unwillingness to place conditions on the bailout of Wall Street – not demanding, for example, that the banks reorganize the mortgages of distressed homeowners, and that they accept the resurrection of the Glass-Steagall Act, as conditions for getting hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars – that contributed to the new populist insurrection.
The Wall Street bailout fueled the Tea Party (at the Utah Republican convention that ousted incumbent Republican Senator Robert Bennett in 2010, the mob repeatedly shouted “TARP! TARP! TARP!”), and it surely fuels some of the current fulminations of Occupy Wall Street.
This is not to say that the Occupiers can have no impact on the Democrats. Nothing good happens in Washington – regardless of how good our president or representatives may be – unless good people join together outside Washington to make it happen. Pressure from the left is critically important.
But the modern Democratic Party is not likely to embrace left-wing populism the way the GOP has embraced – or, more accurately, been forced to embrace – right-wing populism. Just follow the money, and remember history.
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Show AllYou want to know what is not only ironic, but nevertheless compelling, is that professional pundits like Reich most likely never participated in an Action/Protest in their long lives. Reich is part of the inside-the-beltway crowd that lobs critique after critique from his ivory tower located on the campus of UC/Berkeley. Are we to pretend that UC/Berkeley is not funded by Government/Military investments along with huge corporate windfalls which contribute to Reichs living? Prior to that job, he had a foray and taste of insider politics within the Clinton Administration. Are we supposed to take anything he writes as credible now? Like a lot of pundits whose articles are picked up by CD, Reich represents the intelligentsia of a pseudo left. Those who collect huge salaries while participating in the same system responsible for our demise as a species. Reich is a spot light seeking hound. And like many others fitting the mold, he never got down in the dirt like the Wall Street protesters putting life and limb on the line. He zooms in from time to time from across the Continental Divide picking up the crumbs after the fact, and then assembling them with a disingenuous spin. Until Reich and his brethren get off the soap box and join the dirtiness of public angst, nothing he says will carry the force of authenticity he longs for. Period!
The only decent thing that free-trade whore Reich could do is STFU.
Finally someone summarized Reich. Thank you.
He can't STFU. He was bred and honed to run his mouth. Have mercy on him. He knoweth not what he does.
3rded. Occupy is not for sale to the DIm party at any price, in fact we are against prices, fuck the Reich reich!
Your analysis of Reich's position is mainly true, ekobe, but he might be questioning the wisdom of remaining a Democrat. He approached the line that divides Democrats and third party people but he did not cross it (as I was hoping he'd do with this article).
But let's not give up hope on him just yet - he seems to be trying to get up the courage to cross the line (or is that just my wishful thinking?).
He'd certainly be a big gun in a third party if he did cross over. Third party lack of known leaders is one of their major disadvantages, and someone of Reich's political stature leaving the Dims and joining a third party would certainly be a great drawing card for any party that he might join. And his crossing might motivate many others to follow.
Reich needs to stop his revisionist history mongering if he is ever going to be considered part of the solution.
Reich's interpretation of the 1912 election is way off. The only reason Democrat Woodrow Wilson pushed any populist legislation is because populist Bull Moose Party candidate Teddy Roosevelt (TR) almost beat him in 1912, garnering 27% of the popular vote and carrying 8 states (more than incumbant Republican Taft). Reich fails to mention TR's trust busting and ecological contributions. Granted, TR was a Republican when he made those strides, but he got kicked out of the GOP for doing it.
I don't believe in hope Port... I believe in myself.
Hope is for those who lack personal agency...
WOW, you sound like a pretty tough guy, ekobe, smart too.
Tell us all about the strengths of belief in self, will you, and how it relates to this fascinating psychology called "personal agency".
This just might be the guidance we've been looking for that will unite the American left.
I don't post here to hold anyone's hand, Port. If you need a guru to make sense of human empowerment try a google search... guidance is just a click away.
I'm not asking you to hold my hand, ekobe, my girlfriend does that.
Since you don't seem to want to expand on "personal agency" and belief in self as aids to progressive success, let's forget it. Here's an easier question:
Since you denigrate hope, do you advocate hopelessness?
Exactly. As I've said before: Hope is for chumps. It's the Christian promise to slaves so that they will remain content with their lot. Real adults don't hope; they work.
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ekobe, Denruter, corvo:
If you'll go to your dictionaries and look up the definition of hope, I think you will realize that if you did not have hope you would not be fighting for the success of OWS.
Now go to your dictionary and look up "existentialism." Or better, read some Camus.
You are dragging a red herring here, corvo. The subject is hope, and there's no conflict between hope and existentialism, which you would have realized if you had looked up hope.
Here's the thing, you're no doubt correct... Reich doesn't need to do the heavy lifting of risking abuse and arrest. He doesn't need to do anything. But he does, instead he has often chose to arm the progressive movement with the facts that can help us. Reich has consistently been a voice of reason, something sorely missing from most of the people in his position. He has made videos explaining in the simplest terms how the economy was looted by the corporate criminals & I for one appreciate his contribution. Everyone who wanting to wrestle control of our country back from the corporatocracy needs to do what they can. We need the whole of the 99%, doctors, lawyers, economists, teachers, sanitation workers and so on. Don't be in such a hurry to condem, everyone should be welcome to contribute in whatever way they can. We need all the help we can get. Besides, are you sure that he hasn't been at the current occupations?
I did say, "Most likely." But it would strike me as contradictory that someone who worked in the corporate controlled Clinton Admin and now as a tenured professor which is also controlled by corporations and the government would take that type of action. Additionally, I was part of a group of activists that had a meeting with the president of UC/Berkeley back in 2003; the issue then was the appalling working conditions and sub-standard pay UC/ Berkeley paid its non-technical workers, and the anti-union actions that led to harassment by workers employed by a prestigious hotel chain whose CEO was on the Board of UC/ Berkeley. And to back up a moment, I once had a position where the organization I worked was bought out by other interests, and subsequently launched programs inimical to the working conditions of bottom tiered workers. As a result of that campaign, I quit. Reich's credibility is the issue, not his voice of reason. That may carry weight and significance for you, but it means absolutely nothing to me.
Moreover, I am wondering what you mean by, "Everyone who wanting to wrestle control of our country back from the corporatocracy needs to do what they can." I hope that phrase is not another recycled prompt meme that is just another way of saying, "Take back the Democratic party, but before you do, be sure to vote for another four years of Obama..."
There is only one party in politics in America. All politicians will revert to their brother enemy position when faced with opposition. Both parties will unite against their common enemy which is the middle-class. Looking for help from either party is a waste of time. “The pump don’t work cuz the vandals took the handles.”
Hoa binh
"President’s push to end the Bush tax cut "
Since when has he ever really pushed for that? I remember him signing an extension of it just last December.
As to the Democrat Party and the Republican Party, perhaps it's time they went the way of the Whigs, Federalists, Jeffersonians, etc. .
Agree. Actually, it wasn't just an extension, the legislation added more corporate tax cuts ("incentives") and cut the Social Security payroll tax contribution rate. This legislation is no longer the Bush tax cuts; rather it is the Obama tax cuts and for Reich to say they are Bush's is disingenuous.
While ending the tax cuts for the rich, also bring back our deducting interest rate we pay on cars and credit cards. Anyone remember those days? Before St. Ronnie took away our deductions.
Anyone else notice the TV ads are for the rich mainly? The Caddies we can no longer afford.
The taking away our deductions and no longer treating the mentally ill should be that assholes real legacy. Along with the Iran-Conta affair. Glad that SOB lost his mind. My brother did too from AIDS that Ronnie just couldn't bother to look into.
"Will the Wall Street Occupiers morph into a movement that has as much impact on the Democratic Party as the Tea Party has had on the GOP? Maybe."
I certainly hope so. I hope it DESTROYS the Dim Party and replaces it with a real party of the people.
WHY DEMOCRATIC PARTY RETREAT FROM "POPULISM"? REICH LEAVES OUT MCCARTHY PERIOD DESTRUCTION OF LEFT
"By the 1960s...the Democratic Party had given up on populism. Gone from presidential campaigns were tales of greedy businessmen and unscrupulous financiers. This was partly because the economy had changed...Postwar prosperity grew the middle class and reduced the gap between rich and poor....But there was another reason...The Vietnam War spawned an anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian New Left..."
Everyone was getting a piece of the pie, Reich says. That's the 1950s consensus view of US history - ideology was over because all were sharing in economic benefits.
That's the story of the victors, which leaves out McCarthyism - which after WWII annihilated the left that, in the 30s, had moved the Democratic Party left. Led by the right, Democrats followed suit, retrenching right, distancing themselves from so-called "populist" positions for fear of being attacked as Communist.
Unions didn't just moderate their views in the face of perceived benefits - left unions and left labor leaders were sacked per anticommunist legislation, of which the Smith Act was only the most visible.
I recall this period well. McCarthyism was able to take root and succeed because the Korean War and Cold War so poisoned the air for the Left. Leftists were considered possible collaborators, just as the bunds were suspect during WW-II. In a sense, Stalin made the decision to swallow eastern Europe and let the American Left pay the price for that. In its place arose the "anti-communist Left" of Arthur Schlesinger and others, but that lost power as well after JFK/LBJ and the Vietnam debacle ...
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Oct 9 2011 - 1:48pm.
"McCarthyism was able to take root and succeed because the Korean War and Cold War so poisoned the air for the Left."
More a matter of each reinforcing the other, imo - throughout the 30s right wing Congressmen kept up 'communist influence' charges; and progressives (in organizations, Congress, and labor) were on defensive after the 1938 elections, when the right made gains and repressive legislation was passed.
Anticommunism took second place to fascism during WWII. But - after the war - Korea, declared enmity, and the arms race were not only cause but effect of a domestic politics that preceded the Cold War and Korea.
"Leftists were considered possible collaborators"
Of course, but - again - the '"collaborator" idea had a domestic prehistory in attacks on immigrants (aka "foreigners") and left wing movements as unAmerican.
"label "McCarthyism" to refer to this period has the unfortunate effect of obscuring its true nature...tends to pigeonhole the period as a sort of aberration, where one very nasty guy..."
Strongly agree - though I take a somewhat diffeent lesson: on the one hand, it obscures Democratic Party complicity; on the other, it obscures the right wing - vs. Western Europe - features of the U.S. (There was no political repression of the left in France after WWII...the left was too strong...)
"US society never really recovered from this purge...we are where we are today, precisely because the Left was destroyed."
Tragically true, a point made by Schrecker in the conclusion of Many are the Crimes.
"Calling it "McCarthyism" tends to pigeonhole the period as a sort of aberration, where one very nasty guy went a little nuts"
The same can be said of the "Bush agenda," as if, because GWB was replaced by BHO, "aren't we fortunate to have all that behind us?" In reality, Obama took the baton from Bush and off he went, on the same track, in the same lane, furthering the corporate takeover of the globalized US.
The Democratic Party is superfluous. We already have one right wing corporate party in this country, why would we need two? Progressives, I challenge you to drop the duopoly manufactured fears and support the Green Party ... or any other bona fide progressive party or candidate.
I think he supports the Green Party.
Excellent point, and one which readers here should use when commenting on other blogs/news sites. If we forget our history and it's ramifications, we really will just keep repeating it.
"If we forget our history and it's ramifications"
Or if we repress our history: could be argued Reich's typical use of the term "middle class" (vs. American workers), "populist' vs. progressive, and omission of the McCarthy Period from this particular piece are all symptomatic of repressed political trauma: for many liberals - even a left liberal like Reich, who says some good things - this episode is a locked door.
I wouldn't say all the left was destroyed by the House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC) hearings. You should read an an account of how the Women's Strike for Peace made mincemeat out of that committee and facilitated its demise. Lets not give all power to the ruling class. Of course since it is Women's Strike for Peace you have probably never read that history. Leaving women out skews history and of course has left us us with the lopsided over testosteroned war mongering hegemony we live under.
"read an an account of how the Women's Strike for Peace made mincemeat out of that committee"
What account do you suggest?
"In the 1912 campaign Woodrow Wilson promised to wage “a crusade against powers that have governed us … that have limited our development … that have determined our lives … that have set us in a straightjacket to so as they please.” The struggle to break up the trusts would be, in Wilson’s words, nothing less than a “second struggle for emancipation.”
And then in 1913 he signed the Federal Reserve Act, making us debt slaves to a privately-owned banking cartel.
That's the kind of thing politicians do. Wilson also promised to keep the U.S. out of World War I and, as soon as he was reelected he got us in. The system works that way and, until the entire voting public can be educated about how politicians' campaign promises work and how little they mean.
And notice the results of Wilson selling out the left to the Fed interests and WW1 - the dems lost the WH for the next 12 years and it took the Great Depression for the dems to win again.
The oilybomber is going to be just as effective -
Good riddence to rubbish!
LETTING THE U.S. get into that stupid European war makes Wilson a very bad President. And he was a racial bigot.
Reich doesn't get it ! This is not a movement on behalf of Democrats!!! This is a social revolution not to change an intrenched corrupt system but instead to transcend it and create something new. This is not about right/left politics, nor is it about Democratic/Republican Politics, despite the temptation to make it such by the OLD guard. This is something new. If the OLD guard doesn't get it, that's good because they would only screw it up with their outdated 20th Century thinking. Go away Reich, your time has passed. Find your rocking chair and let the young set their future.,
Your analysis, Stone, is solid as a rock.
ekobe makes some very salient points about Reich, who often offers up good critiques of the politics-as-usual we keep getting from Team Obama, but one thing he never will do is admit that the Dems are way past the sell-out stage and are now as much the real problem as the Repugs. He's like Hightower and Nichols in that respect: he believes the Democratic Party can somehow miraculously put on its old FDR costume and once more be the party of the people. None of these guys will entertain for two seconds the necessity of forming a REAL left third party, or say a word in behalf of third party candidates.
Next year they'll be shilling for Obama, however "disappointed" they admit to being, because the farther right alternative is just too awful to contemplate. At least with Democrats in office, their liberal pundit credentials will still be up to date.
"Next year they'll be shilling for Obama ..."
You might be right, Ephraim, but Reich is bright enough to recognize that's a dead end. He seems on the verge of dumping the Dims. Another stab or two in the back by Obama might push him over the line into a third party.
No offense, port_lookout, but we must agree to disagree on this point.
It's a subjective judgement, in the eye of the beholder. To me, pundits like Reich and a string of fellow nominally left-leaning liberals featured on CD-- Robert Scheer, Robert Kuttner, Robert Parry (lots of "Robert"s!), Jim Hightower, John Nichols et al-- are hard-wired nostalgic or sentimental "New Deal" Democrats.
Their politics are engineered like Weebles or bop bags: sufficiently hard blows will knock them off the vertical, and temporarily deflect them into a spin or skew in which they seem ready to fall off the Democratic Party lifeline.
But I respectfully disagree that such passing deformations have a cumulative effect; this group seems too psychologically and emotionally centered on the Democratic Party as the only "realistic" path to political salvation, regardless of its many twists, circles, pits, and ruts.
So despite the ferocity of their oscillations, they gradually return to their original axis and center of gravity.
Once in a while on CD, one finds writers who perceptibly radicalize over time. Chris Hedges (however controversial and blemished some find him) and Dave Lindorff are examples of this.
Glenn Greenwald may be s-l-o-w-l-y shedding his belief in the efficacy of incremental change via electoral politics, i.e. what amounts to supporting "more and better Democrats".
But I don't see the cumulative, linear progress in the former, perhaps older, group that includes Reich. I think they're locked into political Democratic Weeblehood.
Time will tell, and in any case I'll be more pleasantly surprised than embarrassed if I'm wrong. ;)
Hi Obeed. It's always good to hear from you.
Your argument that Mr Reich will never leave the Democrats must be given consideration, and I must admit that while your position is based on reason, mine is based solely on a reading-between-the-lines sense that he is extremely disenchanted with them and is sliding further away from support of them. And also, my own wishful thinking could be operative. I try always to be a realist, but occasionally a little optimism sneaks in.
We see, in the NYT editorial that appears on CD today, a surprising stand in favor of OWS pronouncements, that can only be attributed to the growing strength of the demonstrations. If the thinking of NYT editors can be swayed by these events, why not the thinking of some old line Democrats?
Of course we'll have to wait and see, and I'll probably be as surprised as you will if any of the old boys do jump ship.
Robert Reich,
Get a life, the Wall Street Occupiers are not Democrat. Take your democrats, O and shaft it into your A..................!
Thank.
Reich: "And the Occupiers give the President a potential campaign theme."
Response: No doubt. The Democrats have already started to try and hijack the Occupy Wall Street theme for political gains. The worst part of it is that they are hijacking the theme while doing virtually nothing to support the protestors, doing nothing to stop the mass arrests, and holding back criticism of the police abuse. Obama and the Democrats passed tax cuts FOR THE RICH right before they gave up control of the House, and then they started using TAX THE RICH for its 2012 campaign theme when they knew the Republicans were to take control of the House and knew and know such legislation is not going to pass with a Republican House. It is a circus show. Reich seems overly concerned about the political horse race.
It appears that Reich will get a pummeling on CD no matter what he writes, simply because of his association with the Clinton Administration and the Democratic Party.
However, Reich deserves some credit here for acknowledging just how much in hock the Democratic Party & Obama are to Wall Street. In the past I have criticized him for refusing to admit that the Democratic Party has veered far, far away from the legacy of FDR.
At this point FDR has about as much influence with the Democratic Party as Abe Lincoln has with Rick Perry & the Republican Party.
Reich has monotonously beseeched Obama to just do the right thing and stand up for the little guy. Since Obama has far more in common with Ronnie Reagan than FDR, this is a hopeless admonition. Obama's heart is with the rich guys in the ritzy buildings on Wall Street not the hoi polloi out on the streets.
Both parties accept Keynes as far as immense public expenditures on military hardware, staffing the global empire, and running endless wars around the planet are concerned. Otherwise they appear to have been taken over by Milton Friedman and his ideological acolytes. This is what the super rich and the corporate elites want so this is what both parties try to deliver.
A few kudos to Reich for admitting that OWS represents authentic economic populism while the Democratic Party has ditched those 'losers' for a fancier seat with the Wall Street 'winners'.
I think you're right, Randy, Reich is not a bad guy.
He seems to be wrestling with his conscience about stumping for the Dims.
Randy, A much better representation of my views than my own post. Thanks for helping me to find my own point.
Yes, great comments Randy G, but I will still clutch onto my angst against Reich :)
Let us hope that the OWS movement keeps the Democratic Party from exploiting it. Barry and the rest of the sellout lickspittles have made it abundantly clear that the corporations are their masters. The two-party system is the enemy.