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Inspired by a Revolution in Our Midst, Worried About a Revolution in Our Atmosphere
If you were in the space shuttle looking down yesterday, you would have seen a pair of truly awesome, even fearful, sights.
Much of North America was obscured by a 2,000-mile storm dumping vast quantities of snow from Texas to Maine--between the wind and snow, forecasters described it as "probably the worst snowstorm ever to affect" Chicago, and said waves as high as 25 feet were rocking buoys on Lake Michigan.
Meanwhile, along the shore of Queensland in Australia, the vast cyclone Yasi was sweeping ashore; though the storm hit at low tide, the country's weather service warned that "the impact is likely to be more life threatening than any experienced during recent generations," especially since its torrential rains are now falling on ground already flooded from earlier storms. Here's how Queensland premier Anna Bligh addressed her people before the storm hit:
"We know that the long hours ahead of you are going to be the hardest that you face. We will be thinking of you every minute of every hour between now and daylight and we hope that you can feel our thoughts, that you will take strength from the fact that we are keeping you close and in our hearts."
Welcome to our planet, circa 2011--a planet that, like some unruly adolescent, has decided to test the boundaries. For two centuries now we've been burning coal and oil and gas and thus pouring carbon into the atmosphere; for two decades now we've been ignoring the increasingly impassioned pleas of scientists that this is a Bad Idea. And now we're getting pinched.
Oh, there have been snowstorms before, and cyclones--our planet has always produced extreme events. But by definition extreme events are supposed to be rare, and all of a sudden they're not. In 2010 nineteen nations set new all-time temperature records (itself a record!) and when the mercury hit 128 in early June along the Indus, the entire continent of Asia set a new all-time temperature mark. Russia caught on fire; Pakistan drowned. Munich Re, the biggest insurance company on earth, summed up the annus horribilis last month with this clinical phrase: "the high number of weather-related natural catastrophes and record temperatures both globally and in different regions of the world provide further indications of advancing climate change."
You don't need a PhD to understand what's happening. That carbon we've poured into the air traps more of the sun's heat near the planet. And that extra energy expresses itself in a thousand ways, from melting ice to powering storms. Since warm air can hold more water vapor than cold, it's not surprising that the atmosphere is 4% moister than it was 40 years ago. That "4% extra amount, it invigorates the storms, it provides plenty of moisture for these storms," said Kevin Trenberth, head of the climate analysis section at the government's National Center for Atmospheric Research. It loads the dice for record rain and snow. Yesterday the Midwest and Queensland crapped out.
The point I'm trying to make is: chemistry and physics work. We don't just live in a suburb, or in a free-market democracy; we live on an earth that has certain rules. Physics and chemistry don't care what John Boehner thinks, they're unmoved by what will make Barack Obama's re-election easier. More carbon means more heat means more trouble--and the trouble has barely begun. So far we've raised the temperature of the planet about a degree, which has been enough to melt the Arctic. The consensus prediction for the century is that without dramatic action to stem the use of fossil fuel--far more quickly than is politically or economically convenient--we'll see temperatures climb five degrees this century. Given that one degree melts the Arctic, just how lucky are we feeling?
So far, of course, we haven't taken that dramatic action--just the opposite. The president didn't even mention global warming in his State of the Union address. He did promise some research into new technologies, which will help down the line--but we'll only be in a position to make use of it if we get started right now with the technology we've already got. And that requires, above all, putting a serious price on carbon. We use fossil fuel because it's cheap, and it's cheap because Exxon Mobil and Peabody Coal get to use the atmosphere as open sewer to dump their waste for free. And today you can see the results of that particular business model from outer space.
Overcoming that will require a movement--a movement that is slowly beginning to build. In 2008 a few of us started from scratch to build a campaign with an unlikely moniker: we called it 350.org, because a month earlier this particular planet's foremost climatologist, James Hansen, had declared that we now knew how much carbon in the atmosphere was too much. Any value higher than 350 parts per million, he said, was "not compatible with the planet on which civilization developed and to which life on earth is adapted." That's troubling news, because right now the atmosphere above Chicago and Cairns and wherever you happen to be is about 390 ppm co2. In other words, too much.
At the time, some of our environmentalist friends said that science was too complicated for most people to get--that the only way to talk about these issues was to simplify them. But we thought people could understand, just as we understand when a doctor tells us our cholesterol is too high. We may not know everything about the lipid system, but we know what 'too high' means--it means we better change our diet, take our pill, lace up our sneakers. And indeed 350.org has now coordinated almost 15,000 demonstrations in 188 countries, what Foreign Policy magazine called 'the largest ever coordinated global rally" about any issue.
That's just a start, of course, and so far not enough to counter the power of the fossil fuel industry, the most profitable enterprise humans have ever engaged in. So we'll keep building, and hoping others will join us. But the good news is simple: more and more of this planet's inhabitants are remembering that they actually live on a planet.
We've been able to forget that fact for the last ten thousand years, the period of remarkable climatic stability that underwrote the rise of civilization. But we won't be able to forget it much longer. Days like yesterday will keep slapping us upside the head, until we take it in.
The third rock from the sun is a very different place than it used to be.


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Show AllAVAAZ globally fielded petition for the people of Egypt posted yesterday
http://www.avaaz.org/en/democracy_for_egypt_fb/?copy
it is obvious that the whole world has taken an interest in the plight of the hapless folks of egypt, subject as they are to the amerikan backed/zion backed traitor otherwise known as mubarak
he has taken his 30 sheckels and agreed to the enslavement not only of his own people but also those in gaza
and he is not the only one - shout out to the king of jordan, mr abbas, maliki et al
since the oil became a valuable commodity the arabs have been psyop'd by the brits and now the nwo otherwise known as imperial amerika
any freedom loving person in the world ought to be on the side of the egyptians at this moment and all the arabs in general
now, with regard to the climate - i think we all know there is a great crime being committed against the planet
the corporations are polluting it to our deaths
where my problem lies is in the thrust of the rockefeller financed cadre of scientists who never talk about that basic fact and have instead dreamed up this carbon tax bullshit that will be run through the rothschild bank in switzerland
that i do not go along with
look, at this point in the ever downward spiralling roller coaster rides that is our life we should at least understand the role of the rockefller/rothschild debt slavery machine backed up with the fascist amerikan military killing the non-whites around the world as fast as they can
my suggestion is this: the free citizens of the world need to undertake a massive worldwide class action suit against all the corporations who have polluted this world with chemicals, plastics, rocket fuel and so many other death mechanisms
we should take ALL of their assets - declare everyone to be debt free and then ponder which of those fucks we should hang as traitors
that ought to keep us busy for a while
Human reproduction adds millions of greenhouse gas generators each year, yet anybody who advocates population control is labeled a heretic.
The US miltary produces more greenhouse gas each day than many nations do, yet anybody critical of the military industrial complex is labeled unpatriotic.
I'm labelled unpatriotic all the time, but only by fools stupid enough to make the assumption that I am American.
"reydelcamino"
These are the symptom of a pathology. You really haven't diagnosed the problem.
Well here we are imagining revolution in the environment when the war economy, the profitable product of the Rhothschields/Rockefeller private owners of our money and our politicians who are lured to victory by the army of corporate lobbyists, we have the best failing system that money can buy....but still the best livable planet in the universe. Mark Twain would be proud.
Without a peace economy, a mission declared by the US and the United Nations, there will not be much hope for a sustainable Carbon balance on the earth.... I think all the oil taken out of the gulf is cracking the floor and they just discovered a giant oil deposit in North Dakota, Montana and Canada... one of the biggest on land.
Until Peace is the mission, the mission will not be peace.
What kind of oil? Shale, Tar Sands, Heavy, Light?
I heard it was light very good quality crude and natural gas....
You know glenn, I got a creepy feellin that the Egyptian demonstrators are gonna get massacred... it looks like a set up now when the police and Army secretly and overtly help the thugs objectives and access to weapons...
There is no more benefit for this stand off anymore. Now is the time for the people of Egypt to organize for a new government and local control and freedom but spread out because they are, and we all are sitting ducks now, sucked into a killing zone by Authoritarian rulers and Thugs.
It is amazing how brave and tough they are!
Time to think MLK and Peace.
The army had been checking IDs and keeping state agents out of the square.
But I read a total of 50 soldiers? thats nothing.
israels interferance is the great danger.
Correct me if I am wrong but camel riders, those attacking, in Eygpt would be Beduins.
Actually the horses and camels are those used by tourists to visit the pyramids. These guides are all unemployed right now, the tourists are all at the airport getting out, but the animals and their owners and families still have to eat.
Fuck the Pigs!!!!
The chances that nothing concrete will be done about the very real, and completely denied threat that catastrophic climate change is going to increasingly impact human society are 100%.
No-one in Western Technological Society wants to be the first to put all the toys on the shelf, step back from a rapacious consumerist lifestyle, and behave in a responsible manner. To do so would call into question more than 150 years of Capitalist economic doctrine.
Instead, we will womble on, applying band-aids major trauma, pretending to not notice the increasingly dire effects that will make life incredibly difficult.
Non Serviam - I will not serve.
There is a school of thought in the ufologist community that extra-terrestrials are in the process of disclosing their presence to humanity, which is what all the recent sightings -- such as the big one in Jerusalem last weekend -- are all about.
Some people think that the aliens are disclosing themselves, slowly but surely, so that they can warn us that we are polluting this planet to the point of making it uninhabitable. The ETs have seen planets self-destruct before, and they are here to warn us that we need to change our ways, or that if we don't they will be forced to intervene in order to save this planet, which of course is part of a much larger galactic system. It doesn't belong to us, in other words, and they will take action to save this planet from the humans.
Of course, this all could be a complete and utter fantasy, but unfortunately I think it is our only hope. Otherwise, I agree with you that the chances that we will take no real action to correct our self-destructive ways are 100%.
DC: I can't recall if I read a similar analysis in Ruth Montgomery's channeled material, Edgar Cayce's, or from Pat Rodegast's work channeling Emmanuel. I believe what you've related is quite possible. Murray Hope is one of the sources that speaks about an earlier colonization of our planet. His research links things like ancient art (some along the lines of cave paintings and items that Eric Van Daniken also pointed out) to legends taken from the Dogon Tribe of Africa, and how common totems parallel those noted from Ancient Egypt.
Gore Vidal may have had this understanding locked into his unconscious since one of his early plays, "Visit to a Small Planet" (or "Journey To A Small Planet") speaks about this in its own way.
Thanks for the post. Anyone who is sure there couldn't be intelligent life elsewhere is evidencing authoritarian traits. Remember how kindly the church took to Galileo for messing up the holy books and established cosmology with all this business about the earth not being the center of the universe.
Thanks, yeah, I've been reading some Eric Von Daaniken lately and while his writing style may be somewhat disjointed, the evidence he presents for his ancient alien theory is quite convincing. I find it amazing the way so many of the ancient scriptures present remarkably similar accounts of battles in the sky, "angels" or "gods" coming down from the heavens, etc.
The late Stanley Fulham, a former NORAD officer, predicted a year ago that Oct. 13, 2010 would be a day of highly visible sightings, and amazingly his prediction came true. There was UFO over New York City that day that was witnessed by thousands of people. There is actually a huge body of evidence of ETs visiting this planet, and I don't discount it at all.
Good point about the Church persecuting Galileo BTW, but did you catch the news a couple years ago, in which the Catholic Church changed its longstanding position on extra-terrestrials? It is now Church dogma that believing in ETs is in no way inconsistent with being a good Catholic. They may be preparing the faithful for the coming disclosure, who knows?
DC: Was Fox Maulder a Catholic? Just kidding. Thanks for the post. I keep an open mind on these things. Only the open mind can grow. It's amazing how a few in this forum think they own the intellectual high ground while they slam the door on possibilities they find unthinkable. The very FACT that they find these intriguing subjects unthinkable (and do their best to humilitate those of us who consider, or by God, even study them!) says a lot more about their restrained intellects than those of us who provide our minds with the freedom to explore...
They think they are more modern or scientific in their rigid stances; yet it is precisely that type of mindset that would have argued FOR the flat earth, or against the invention of the airplane, etc. AD NAUSEUM!
Well-said, Siouxrose! In some ways, people here seem to be stuck in the same modes of thought as all other Americans, tied to the same conventional wisdom as everybody else. They are positioned on the left side of the conventional wisdom, but still beholden to it, unable to think outside the box and contemplate other possibilities. Personally, I think the ancient alien theories, as well as the contemporary phenonomenon of worldwide UFO sightings, are some of the most fascinating subjects around. And I think it is going to be getting more and more interesting moving forward.
If it is all true, and disclosure does take place as predicted (possibly this year or next), I gurantee you, all these naysayers will be the first say, "Hah, I knew it all along!" :-)
Von Daaniken was an incredibly inept and sloppy researcher. Many of his claims, upon later examination of the source material, have proven to be any but what he claimed they were. The most notable being the 'Mayan Astronaut', who was actually a king entering the afterlife.
Von Daaniken has a long history of fraud, tax evasion, embezzlement, fabrication of 'evidence', photographic altering and manipulation, and plagiarism.
I have noticed that he plagiarizes himself quite regularly, basically filling up book after book with the same material, just giving it a new title and slant. Of course, his theories are by nature speculative, but I think worthy of some consideration. I never found the "Mayan Astronaut" carving to be very convincing, but I do enjoy his alternative interpretations of holy scriptures.
Whatever though, we'll see. The good thing about the 2012 theories and prophecies is that we won't have to wait very long to find out if they are true. Of course, no one precisely knows when Jesus Christ was born, so year 1 AD may well be year 2 AD or year 1 BC. In that case, our current year may actually be 2010, 2012 or some other year.
Thanks for keeping things real, Galenwainwright.
Keeping it real = there is zero chance that humanity will ever change its ways; the planet is doomed, we're all going to die.
Loony conspiracy theory = it is possible that extra-terrestrials are visiting this planet, and may be preparing to intervene in order to shake us from our complacency.
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll stick with the loony conspiracy theory.
Yes, I am aware of this fact of life. And I don't choose to be open to the possibility of alien intervention just because it "feels good," although, I must admit that I find the subject very interesting. There is a huge amount of evidence to support the theories, as well as basic logic. The fact that the universe is 14 billion years old, while the earth is only 4 billion years old, leads me to reason that perhaps in those 10 billion years between the formation of the universe and the formation of earth, there may have been some other civilizations developing in the cosmos. Just think of the rapid technological advancements humans have made -- in the past hundred years alone, we've gone from horse and carriage to space travel. Who knows what else is out there, and what sort of technologies they may have.
Whether guys like Stanley Fulham and Erich von Daaniken are just hoaxsters out to make a buck, or whether they have some real insight that is worth paying attention to, is a matter of opinion. All I know is that in all probability, Galenwainwright is correct that we will just stumble along in our self-destructive ways, doing our best to ignore the wholesale destruction we are causing the planet while playing with our iPhones and driving our SUVs. I truly believe that it will take something as dramatic as alien disclosure/intervention to snap us out of this trance we are in. I thought Katrina might have done it, but apparently not. The weather is going haywire, and has been for some time. But it is obvious that we will continue to ignore the problem for as long as we can. There's too much money being made on the status quo for these guys to take the steps necessary to save this planet.
I believe we are being watched. We are being given the opportunity to change our ways, which we should do on our own. If we don't though, they will intervene. This is just what I believe, and I could be wrong. Then again, so could you.
Yeah, it is so much more constructive to just bitch and moan about politics anonymously on message boards and ridicule people who post about things you are not familiar with.
BTW, my carbon footprint is as close to zero as is possible living in modern society. I haven't owned a car for years, ride a bike to work every day, conserve energy, recycle, etc. How about you, when is the last time you visited a gas station?
Dear DC-CPH, are you a vegetarian or a vegan? A vegetarian driving an SUV produces fewer carbon emissons than a meat eater riding a bicycle. If you are a meat eater, your carbon footprint is nowhere near zero.
I was a vegetarian for some time, but I must admit, I do eat meat from time to time. I never heard your factoid before about vegetarian SUV drivers having less of a carbon footprint than meat eating bike riders, and can't help but wonder if it's just a way for car owners to make themselves feel better about filling up their gas guzzlers at the local Shell station. I know however that meat production is incredibly wasteful, not to mention unbelievably cruel against the poor creatures doomed to life in a factory farm. Point well taken.
DC How sad is it that we can't do it for ourselves? This planet is an egotistical teenager thumbing its nose at death and destruction. Aliens can't change that ....though it is a hoped for scenario, barely plausible even for us believers.
I would even go further. If disclosure does take place and they do try to warn us of our inevitable demise, humans would probably wage war against them in order to maintain our unsustainable lifestyles. This is probably the main reason they are keeping their presence concealed -- they are afraid of us.
"But by definition extreme events are supposed to be rare, and all of a sudden they're not."
where's the logic in looking at dictionary definitions for the weather? And which one says extreme events are rare?
completely nonsensical...
starskeptic -- Actually, yours is the nonsensical post. Maybe you should look up the word "extreme" in your dictionary. In the context of the article, McKibben must mean "far from what is usual or conventional", one of the definitions of "extreme" in my dictionary.
Words don't matter if they don't convey what you would like them to convey? Seems to me you are willfully missing the point.
...you skipped completely passed my point--arguing out of dictionaries is pointless...
"Arguing out of dictionaries" What are you talking about? Using specific terms is necessary in any discussion. Are you beyond language or pre-language? Words aren't the argument, they are just necessary to use in any argument or exposition. Naturally, they need to be defined, or was Socrates "nonsensical", too?
You really should get it together more before you hit the "send" key.
One doesn't need a dictionary if one is near brain dead, just a pair of sighted eyes. Look at the picture.
The ground looks flat to me here, and if I put an orange on a table, it doesn't roll. Can I logically conclude that the earth is flat?
There is a difference between being a skeptic and being in a complete state of denial, or deception, or delusion.
...I have no idea what this comment means...
There is a sub-field of statistics called Extreme Value Statistics, which studies events a few standard deviations from the mean. Such events warrant study because although relatively rare, they can result in severe consequences.
My wakeup call was Katrina. The rest of the country went back to bed.
SKEPTIC: Years ago the cover of "Life Magazine" would show the RARE tornado outbreak or massive earth quake. These types of things happened less than ONCE a decade. It is the frequency that has obviously turned up.
This past year 2010 (and note that insurance companies are realizing the statistical shift. They are hardly advocates of less consumerism, or behavioral shifts taken en masse to lessen the impacts of climate change) has involved a breaking off of a major ice sheet, newly active volcanoes in Iceland and near New Zealand, what were described as 3 apocalyptic events (the quake in Haiti, the floods in Pakistan, and the floods in Australia), added to the Russian heat waves, the biggest composite snowstorms likely recorded in the U.S North-East, and droughts affecting agriculture in other regions.
TRUTH is obviously not your motive for posting here. However, if per chance you've never met, Jake Newton, he appears to be your soul mate. Who'd a thought CommonDreams could so effectively play Matchmaker?
DENNAB: The real question is why are you on the SIDE arguing against the obvious climate disruptions? I am talking about recent decades... if you have to go back to 250 million years ago to make a point, you might as well go to hell while you're at it.
There is NOTHING you and I see eye to eye on. Nor do I trust you or your motives in this forum.
The "sigh" gives you away. How many screen names have you posted under, always looking for a way to undermine my posts? You backed up a climate change denier then tried to poke holes in my points by bringing up matters from 250 million years ago. Then you say you are not a climate denier? Your mindf--ks are NOT appreciated by me. You are one of the posters who stalks me in this forum. Therefore, as you initially related, you SHOULD pass my posts by. I was certainly NOT talking to you! You hide behind many MUTABLE screen names, and I can't recall a single issue where you sounded remotely progressive.
I do not trust you, and prefer not to engage those I take for counterfeits. A legitimate argument posted for fair and honest purposes is an altogether different matter. You and yours hardly qualify.
Hit a nerve did I, Dennab, etc? The lady doth protest too much... I don't buy what you said. You DO make it a point to attack my posts and I don't recall ever being moved by any profound, original thought on YOUR end. There are a number of posters, who win my applause on a regular basis, and they are not necessarily devotees of my line of thinking, either. They make good cases, and they don't need to put others down to do so. Maybe you can learn something from them. Then I'll take YOU seriously. Adieu!
Being in South Korea, it's tough to get in a timely post, but I read "Heavy Weather" by Bruce Sterling. It was written in 1995, but he accurately predicts the types of things we are seeing now. It's worth a read, or a reread in my case.
Virtually anything we could do to address any of the huge constraints facing mankind will create catastrophic global economic collapse.
There is no way to prosper our way out of this. The solution is to do LESS of everything, canceling all debt, redistributing the wealth, insure that everyone has a fair and equatable existence, and reduce the worlds population as fast and humanly as possible.
It must somehow be ok to not have a job and still exist with dignity, and I am not talking about getting everyone into banking and finance.
Any calls for "Sputnik" or "Manhattan Project" or "New Deal" like massive ramp-up of action to address the problems show a profound misunderstanding of the issues and will only accelerate resource depletion and biosphere degradation.
Technology will not save us. The invisible hand will not save us. An all seeing entity will not save us.
The entire World will soon be like Egypt, billions of unemployed young people facing an ever shrinking, chaotic existence with little hope for the future.
P.S. Please no comments about a so called "Green Economy". All that means is BAU where corporate profits enjoy a short extension of guilt free mega profits. Oh! maybe all the big multinationals will decide to disband and become Co-operative. Yea!!!!!
souperman2,
You've figured out the game, souperman2. It's the very structure of civilization itself that causes most of the social - political - ecological consequences we are witnessing today. And, it's highly likely things will continue along that path until civilization collapses under the weight of it's own delusions.
As you probably know, all civilized cultures are a by-product of agri-culture. Cultivation and livestock herding emerged as a survival strategy at the very edge of existence some 11,000 years ago in the Levant. The culture of agri eventually domesticated the domesticators. Simple agrarianism has always been an unsustainable subsistence strategy as it depletes soil nutrients, salinates the soil (under irrigation), simplifies bio-diversity and causes an ever-increasing human population. Although, it was a fairly slow process for thousands of years. But, industrial agriculture and the techno-society it spawned is reckless beyond belief. It will not last.
May I suggest a read to anyone following this thread?
If you have not read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn, then definately pick up a copy.
The sequel, My Ishmael, is even better.
Are you a taker or a leaver?
All are takers ... all are leavers.
I enjoyed reading Daniel Quinn's books, but his either / or construct based on biblical metaphors was a false dilemma offered in the classic tradition of Western reasoning.
From a broader perspective, I suggest there are no boundaries separating human beings from "nature". Rather, we humans are simply another facet of life slightly influencing the constant flux of elements and energy.
Takers are those who cannot imagine sustainability. Those who cannot live without insurance and surplus. All living things need sustenance and take it. Few other living things besides men will consume and store and sell everything until not only the resource but the source of the resource is depleted. Not all men are takers...See rotating crops and replanting forests. See not stealing everything you can and remaining slave laborer.
The lawmakers who are pirating this ship cannot possibly consume all they have taken from others, yet the looting continues. Excess is the main theme. Same goes for the family man who works out of town and misses his offspring's childhood. If its all in the name of money, every intangible sacrifice is a no brainer for the taker. For the leaver, accumulation of excess is not the driving instinct.
The choice seems to be between more of the same or renewables.
The people who deny technological solutions do not seem to be knowledgable as to what is available and at what cost and to what is acceptable to the population.
Very few will accept only stone age technology.
Wiretap,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes! our civilized society is outrageously unsustainable and it will collapse in time. You mentioned a few instances. Yet, I do not find it helpful to create either / or dilemmas concerning humans being or our activities. If you, like me, used a computer to write your responses then we're both using the tools of "takers" so-called. How did that food you'll consume today get to your local market? How much energy generated by mega-corporations did it require to manufacture your clothes, bicycle, automobile or bus you ride? You get the point ....
It's a good read - but it is fiction. Besides the notion that humanity is part of, rather than separate from, nature I don't think that you can much that is that useful from the book. Daniel Quinn himself has some scary ideas. He's sort of a Malthusian anarcho-primitivist. He would have a mass human genocide exponentially larger that the Holocaust. He doesn't seem to have any understanding of capitalism's role in war, food shortages, environmental degradation and species die-off. Therefore, he blames all of humanity for those problems, rather than the ruling class who created and profit from them.