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House Afghanistan Debate: What Kucinich Accomplished
This is the debate that should have been held - at least - last fall when the Administration was considering sending more U.S. troops to Afghanistan, or - at least - when the Administration announced its plans to send more troops. If the House had held this debate while the Administration was mulling its decision, the Congressional airing of arguments against military escalation and in favor of political and diplomatic solutions would have attracted a lot more attention, and could have affected the decision. No doubt, the possibility that a Congressional debate then might have affected the policy was a key motivation for some in the House leadership not to allow this debate to occur then.
But it is much better for the House to debate now than not to debate at all, or to fail to debate the policy until the question of money is on the floor, a point emphasized by Rep. Howard Berman, chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, who vigorously opposed the resolution but vigorously supported the debate. Pro-war views are hardly lacking venues for making their case, meeting in church basements, passing out flyers on the sidewalk. Pro-war views dominate the mainstream media. It's dissent against the war that has to fight to be heard. Yesterday, dissent was heard.
Of course, the House debate on Afghanistan didn't get the media play yesterday that the Eric Massa soap opera did, as Representative Kennedy passionately noted (ironically, arguably garnering more press attention for the Afghanistan debate with his jeremiad than any other intervention on the House floor.)
But compare the press coverage of the Afghanistan debate to almost any other day of press coverage on Afghanistan, and the thing that stands out is that there was any coverage of dissent at all. Rep. Kennedy was absolutely right to call attention to the media's choices in the exercise of their agenda-setting power, but it's always important to keep in mind that the causality also always runs the other way: the media take cues about "what is an issue" from politicians, and the increase in the reporting yesterday of dissent on the war was a reflection of that. There was some press coverage of Congressional dissent, in part because there was a newsworthy Congressional dissent event to report on.
Julian Barnes of the Los Angeles Times got the story exactly right:
The measure ended up losing, 356 to 65 [roll call here], a margin that had been expected. Nonetheless, antiwar lawmakers welcomed the debate as a chance to express pent-up frustration with the continued troop buildup in Afghanistan, and to express their view that the original mission of U.S. forces, defeating Al Qaeda, had been lost.
Barnes specifically noted the dissents of Donna Edwards[MD-4], Alan Grayson[FL-8], and Ron Paul[TX-14].
Rep. Donna Edwards (D-Md.) said she supported the resolution because the U.S. was no longer fighting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. "This Congress has an obligation to send a strong message to the White House that the war must come to an end," she said. "Who are we fighting. Over the course of this time this war and its mission and its goals have morphed and morphed and morphed.
Here's what people watching C-Span saw when Donna Edwards spoke:
Rep. Alan Grayson (D- Florida)/(D- Orlando), wearing a tie festooned with peace symbols, called the Afghanistan war a "foreign occupation" that was unconstitutional, and would leave thousands of more young people with brain damage. "We won and now we could go home a long time. in fact we could have gone home a long time ago," Grayson said. "We simply can't afford these wars any more in price of money or the price of blood."
Here's what people watching C-Span saw when Alan Grayson spoke:
"The country is totally bankrupt and we are spending trillions of dollars on these useless wars," said Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), a libertarian and also a former presidential candidate. "History shows all empires end because they expand too far and bankrupt the country, just as the Soviet system came down."
Here's what people watching C-Span saw when Ron Paul spoke:
The New York Times noted the dissent of Rep. Chellie Pingree[ME-1]:
"Is the cost of this war worth it?" asked Representative Chellie Pingree, Democrat of Maine. "Can we afford to turn our backs on the challenges we face at home and continue to pursue failed policies abroad?"
Here's what people watching C-Span saw when Chellie Pingree spoke:
And National Public Radio noted the dissent of the gentleman from Ohio.
Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich, one of the more liberal members of Congress, brought up a resolution Wednesday to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by the end of this year at the latest. Although the measure failed after a 65-356 vote, lawmakers on all sides agree on one thing: Wednesday's debate itself was important for the Congress to have.Kucinich said he wrote this bill because he wants Congress to take responsibility for the war in Afghanistan. He said it should "claim responsibility for the troop casualties, which are now close to 1,000; to claim responsibility for the cost, which is approaching $250 billion and, together with the Iraq war, close to $1 trillion." Kucinich said Congress must also take responsibility for the great cost at home: the money spent on the war that hasn't gone to job creation, housing and public works projects.
As the sponsor of the resolution, the gentleman from Ohio was not limited to one short intervention, and anyone watching the debate for any length of time would have had the opportunity to see Rep. Kucinich present one aspect of his case against the war. Here he presented his argument for introducing the resolution, prior to the debate:
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Show AllI'm sure my Rep. Blumenauer, wasn't the only one who sees the war as too expensive in both blood and treasure, too intractable to solve by force and too open ended but voted against the resolution anyway without any explanation. WTF?
This vote and some others are finally showcasing democrats taking their masks off to reveal that republicans have been sitting in those seats all along.
Reforming the Democratic party is a lost cause. Don't just throw your vote away into the uncast bin, make it count for a third party candidate the next time around. The Greens look promising in my opinion but it doesn't really matter which third party you vote for. Once Democrats are challenged, we can at least have a real debate on these issues.
Reforming the Democratic party is a lost cause.
Hear! Hear!
That's agreed, Mordechai Shibikov.
I see also that one of the supposed flag-bearers of progressive causes, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, voted against it. WTF?
Well, it was nice to see some people in Congress speaking out. However, if you look at the tapes and scrutinize the background, you will see that they were speaking to an empty house! There were no more than a handful of people present.
The sponsors were allowed to make their statements, then I imagine there was a quorum call and the Congresspeople left their offices, the cafeterias and the bars and repaired to the House, made a quick vote, then returned to their previous occupations.
Ah, yes, democracy at work.
They were getting ready for their high-paid Easter break. Priorities, My Friend, priorities.
365/430 = 85%.
85% is an interesting number, If I recall the lessons of the NOI from numerous hiphop songs correctly.
85% are enslaved and do the work of their masters. 85% are easy to lead astray, but difficult to reform. 85% are mentally dead. 85% choose to remain ignorant. 85% destroy our communities through vice and immorality. The 85% is where we need to focus our efforts to improve society.
What will it take to get this debate into the mainstream?
We separate military spending from the rest of the budget without realizing that this is what will bring down the system.
What if we had spent the trillions in our domestic economy? Health care? Environment? Infrastructure? Education? These things can be put off while we play at Superpower.
I think it is the same everywhere. regardless of country or system...
if the mainstream has , as "normality", been about only particular prefered points of view and content - then it will be very difficult, if not even impossible, for the population to "outgrow" within just even a single generation - generations of "normal" discussion and reporting that are exclusionary.
it will have to be equaled by a comparable amount, intensity and breadth and depth of "abnormal" discussion -- such as bringing up discussions about war, why, etc...economics, why, etc....
so -- even if a particular subject came up "mainstream" -- seriously asking "why do we have to go to war? precisely? what are the consequences? what did we really accomplish ?" (just as examples) --
how much will americans, already BROUGHT UP for entire lifetimes in a particular world view and habit of "discussion" (exclusionary) -
actually even comprehend that THIS is important - at the very least for their own self-honesty, if they still have ANY choice in things?
it is the same with america's capitalism "BIG BOSS" (general smedley butler, us marines, 1933) --
americans generally can not even CONCEIVE of an alternative - such as socialism , a genuine socialism , with its attendant different VALUES from capitalism -- since americans instinctively EQUATE "values" with
everything that is defined BY capitalism.
so - it's, on a national level, and not just because the media is capitalist and picks and controls , simply impracticable as far as the present or even imagined future for many, many more years.
the "NATIONAL consciousness" is so trapped within a "way of life" of america that can NOT be detached from 'capitalism' - that americans would be like being the ocean without a ship if the ideas were presented to them -- because it would simply disrupt their inherited or prefered mode of thought AND "way of life" .
they , in fact, would HAVE to be "re-educated"....
and that ALONE is VERY threatening to americans. "US?" = "re-educated?"
"our way of life -- fundamentally WRONG?"
"get outta here...this is america".
The 65 Congresspersons who supported this resolution should now form a task force to go to Central Asia and meet with representatives of the Taliban and Al Qaeda for the purpose of coming up with an agreement to end this war. The Taliban have stated repeatedly that they'd stop fighting if the U.S. would agree to a timetable for pulling all American/NATO troops out of Afhanistan. Yes, the White House might scream "Hey, you can't do that because negotiating with foreign entities is an exexutive branch responsibility", to which the peace delegation could point out that only a few months ago there was a certain Republican congressman (don't remember his name) who went off to Honduras and got involved with the negotiations taking place between the U.S. supported military junta there and the supporters of President Manuel Zelaya, "so why the fuss about a few of us Congresspersons taking it upon ourselves to end this f------ war?"
I guess there's no easy, affordable technical solution that would somehow consolidate comments when CommonDreams posts multiple opinion and news articles on the same topic. IMO, thoughtful repetition or redundancy of comments is necessitated by the repetitive and redundant source material.
To wit, the other day I commented:
"Liberals in the House, ... will get a chance this week to vent about one of their biggest concerns: the war in Afghanistan."
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"Vent", here, in the sense of #11 in the Dictionary.com listing: "to relieve by giving expression to something: He vented his disappointment by criticizing his successor".
This exercise takes a political form, but it's not so much political as therapeutic.
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Here, Naiman notes, "Julian Barnes of the Los Angeles Times got the story exactly right:
'The measure ended up losing, 356 to 65 [roll call here], a margin that had been expected. Nonetheless, antiwar lawmakers welcomed the debate as a chance to express pent-up frustration with the continued troop buildup in Afghanistan'".
So what IS the lesson here? Apart from bromides, e.g. "it isn't if you win or lose, it's how you play the game".
I'm not slamming Mr. Naiman for this but it's worth noting that C-SPAN is typically treated as though it were a public channel available to anyone with a TV set. It ought to be-- I'd gladly trade in all those bogus "new" all-shopping and all-Christian channels I now block out due to the miracle of digital teevee broadcasting for C-SPAN.
So, first of all, C-SPAN is cable TV; in Amerika's ruptured, commodified political culture, only Paying Customers have entrée to even this grimy window into the PUBLIC part of the legislative sausage factory. And in the diminished universe of cable TV watchers, only political junkies tune in.
Again, I'm not faulting the author here; I appreciate his taking the trouble to share relevant C-SPAN excerpts, and I can imagine several others regularly published here who would spin this pathetic circumstance into a preposterous "rallying cry" or Sign of Hope, like the dove returning to Noah's ark with an olive branch in its beak.
Naiman merely writes, "Yesterday, dissent was heard."
Yes, "dissent was heard"-- like a faint and ephemeral rustle far off in the wilderness, or a nagging hiss transmitted through the pipes from a running toilet somewhere in the bowels of a vast apartment complex or hotel.
I'm reminded of fictional character Eliot Rosewater's observation in Kurt Vonnegut's masterpiece, "Slaughterhouse-Five": "He said that everything there was to know about life is in 'The Brothers Karamazov,' by Fyodor Dostoevsky. 'But that isn't ENOUGH anymore,' said Rosewater.
"Yes, "dissent was heard"-- like... a nagging hiss transmitted through the pipes from a running toilet somewhere in the bowels of a vast apartment complex"
Wow-- great analogy
War Is Wrong Everytime. What is it that the warmaking psychopaths don't get about that reality? You warmakers in your severe mental illness are hopelessly addicted to the bloody, twisted, gorey images of torture and exploding human beings. Your sick minds delight in the violent misery and torment of other beings. Money is relative you can make billions just as easily in a peace economy. Make the mantra of peace is stronger than the warmakers sickening drone.
I e-mailed my Democratic Congressman: You voted in favor of keeping the troops in Afganistan. In November I will vote in favor of removing you from Congress.
USA's imperial wars, what are they good for?
USA's imperial occupations, what are they good for?
Obama is not serious about repairing the US economy as long as he pours billions of our taxpayer dollars into these Mideastern ratholes...
Make peace, not war.
Have fun, without destroying the fun of others.
Live rich, without making others poor.
Occupy yourself, without occupying others.
Don't kill and expect to live happily ever after.
This is the USA. We don't QUESTION the need for war. We question those who oppose war.
We can only assume if a Republican urges an invasion of the "Socialist regime in Canada", it would be time to whip out the car flags again.
Canadian Bacon.
"Canadian Bacon" indeed! Michael Moore and John Candy let us in on what those horrible Canadians are up to.
Rep. Edwards sez: ""Who are we fighting(?)"
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The better question is, "Who are we paying?"
The answer to THAT question will never be read aloud on the floor of the House or on Assimilated Press broadcasts.
If these foreign wars mean the downfall of the evil american empire, then I am all for it.
What the American people need to face is the economic exploitation behind our corporate Imperium in particular, and global capitalism in general.
Here is an article entitled, "Savage Moderns: Avatar-Style Ecocide In The Real World."
http://www.realitysandwich.com/avatar_ecocide_real_world
Do you think there will ever be a debate in Congress about the morality of our entire way of life?
No matter who is nominated & elected U.S. policy is endless war & military spending, further upward transfers of wealth, with the corporate elite controlling news coverage & essentially writing all legislation.
This policy can be cloaked under 2 different costumes. When a Democrat is elected we get more smiles and more liberal rationales. The militarism is presented in milder tones, emphasizing themes like "stabilization" rather than "killing our enemies."
It's necessary to understand the difference between the state and government. The state is the permanent collection of institutions that have entrenched power structures and interests. The government is made up of various politicians. It is the institutions that have power in the state due to their permanence, not the representatives who come and go. We cannot expect different politicians to act in different ways to the same pressures. However, this is all ignored by the average political consumer who wishes Politician______ was more a socialist, green, populist etc. and could ignore the demands of the dominant class in society while in charge of one part of its protector and creature, the state.
We need to remind ourselves of Albert Einstein’s admonition: “we can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” Trying to reform the political process makes no more sense than trying to reform the carnivorous appetites of jungle beasts. If it is your desire to put an end to the violent, destructive, corrupt, and dysfunctional nature of government, stop wasting your time by focusing on the current management of the system.
When is it stupid to see both sides of a question? When Neal Conan of "Talk of the Nation" says, e.g., that our problem in Afghanistan "may or may not prove intractable."
Why is such a statement so abysmally stupid? Because any reasonable person had time to evaluate the history of Afghanistan-- past and more recent and consistent-- and to have reached a reasonable conclusion.
The whole idea of impartiality is to-- eventually-- make choice, not to remain impartial forever and thus become impotent.
Also, Ms. Donna Edwards representing Largo and Olney, MD is much more intelligent on the subject of Afghanistan than President Barack Obama, although she may defer too much to our troops, who by agreeing to go to Afghanistan, are, after all, as much supporters of foolish war as he.
The power of this is that my congressman is now on the record.
I would expect nothing less from the remarkable Honorable Dennis Kucinich than to bring this discussion to the House floor. Dennis is no stranger to confrontation and who better to represent common sense and the common man than he? Here in Ohio, like most of the nation, jobs are scarce. U.S. tax dollars should be spent lavishly to retrain, provide health care, food and shelter for the homeless (who have no voice and are the least among us), instead of spent on unjust wars. I have long admired Dennis Kucinich. The first time I voted, many many years ago in Cleveland, Ohio, was against his recall as Mayor of Cleveland and in the years since as a constituent, I continue to vote for him and will continue to vote for him. My hope for the future is that Dennis' voice and others of like mind, will be able to resound mightily above the corporate voices in elections of the future. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of other good men :) by giving generously to their campaigns. Peace.
I would expect nothing less from the remarkably phony Dishonorable Dennis Kucinich than to bring this discussion to the House floor and accomplish NOTHING.
Kucinich is a sham.
Hello Ardath Bey,
Since you condemn Kucinich for not succeeding in stopping the war, may we all assume that YOU have a secret plan which will succeed? Don't be shy. Please tell us so that we can all put it into effect. And when you have overcome the Pentagon, the corporatocracy and the media, then no one else will have to apply for the Nobel Peace Prize for the next thirty years. Right?
If that is not the case, then please recognize that Mr. Kucinich is doing his best. We know that because the media either ignored him or ridiculed him all the time he was running for president; so that we wouldn't find out that his positions were closer to those of the average Democrat than the positions of every other candidate, as was determined by survey.
Please try to support your opinions with a little research.
Thank you,
Laurence of Berkeley
sure Kucinich is doing his best, his best to keep fools on the left voting Democratic.
Until he's part of this corrupt, despicable party, he's just as rotten as the rest of them. If he resigned, exposed Obama, Pelosi and Reid as war criminals, Bush clones, perhaps I would start taking him seriously. Perhaps.
It makes me SO ANGRY the way our government is controlled by the military etc.. The majority of Americans and worldwide by polls taken in 2009 are all against the war. It is interesting that I could find no polls taken in 2010 on the Internet regarding the Afghanistan war. If there were they would all tell the same story as in 2009 and more likely even more so. Also notice if you will that there was virtually no media coverage either before, during, or after, regarding this debate. Question is WHY IS THAT??
You will get media coverage every hour almost against the health care plan that Obama is trying desperately to get through Congress. But isn't the war in Afghanistan just as important when our men & women are getting killed over there???? Yes it is a stacked deck folks.
There is no purpose in Afghanistan. Our politicians care nothing about the people getting killed there. It is only about a bulging military budget with greed all over the place for those that are reaping the benefits from war.
In a roll call the measure lost by a huge measure 365 to 65. Take a look at who voted for what and do what you have to do accordingly. Write or call to those who did not support this measure. Those who voted against are totally irresponsible. They must be voted out of office. I hope your views mirror mine but if they don't I am sorry for you if you are a Christian.
P.S. Remember, it was Dwight D Eisenhower who warned us of this growing threat. He was right on the money!
My Comments Only/Lee
Kucinich is a fraud, he accomplished nothing. The only way he could remotely be taken seriously is if he stopped this silly political theater, left his corrupt party and ran as an Independent. The Democratic Party is rotten to the core, there's nothing anyone can do. As long as he accepts to stay, Kucinich is just as rotten.
Kucinich is a sham designed to keep the left in the Democratic Party. Kucinich always ends up supporting a pro-war corporatist Democrat for president like he did in 2000 or 2004 or 2008 so he has absolutely no credibility, he talks a good game so the idiots calling him a hero will follow him and vote for whatever war criminal, corporate suit the Democrats nominate.
Sham on you, Kucinich.
We can attack everyone who has not stopped this war, everyone who has not turned our culture around, everyone who is inside the economy, everyone who has failed to save the world.
Kucinich has my respect.
Simplistic trashing of Kucinich certainly contributes to our future of peace and ecological health. Thank you so much for your excellent contribution to our future.
Simplistic trashing vs. blind loyalty. I doubt either is an accurate rendering of the positions taken.
Shame on YOU, Ardath Bey.
Shame on Kucinich, for supporting Obama for president and for not exposing him for the lies of ending the wars during the campaign. All this political theater now accomplishes nothing, except make fools like you believe there's some sort of hope for Democrats or congress.
Again, if you want to call shame and call names, every one of us has failed to stop the madness. Who the hell are you? You gonna lead us to the positive future? Or are you a sham?
Or are you a human?
But the real point is that Kucinich DOES support his party, positions and candidates both. Telling a private citizen that he or she shares responsibility with a Legislator seems close to the breaking point in loyalty to ones chosen hero.
It is usually easy to overlook Kucinich on his support of Obama over Nader but like most of us who voted Obama over Kucinich, he's one of us who fell for it. That aside, he is one of those rare progressives who has tried to make the best of progressive changes even as a Democrat. I have been given a challenging question as to why Kucinich chooses to be part of the Democratic Party when he could go independent. I am not sure that going independent would change anything other than the Democratic Party temporarily scrambling to bring in one or two people like him to make the party look diverse and liberal. Aside from Kucinich not backing Nader and not leaving the Democratic Party, he was one of the few great progressives in Congress and a rare one too. You should check out the anti-Kucinich hatred on DailyKos and Huffington Post. If he ran against Obama for president, I would give him my vote and I would ask him to bolt the party given its blind loyalty supporters trashing of that man. If there were more Republicans in Democrats in Congress who would have given Kucinich's ideas a chance, would you still be calling him a fraud?
I am grateful to Dennis Kucinich for getting this debate in congress. I often wondered what the vote would be to end this horror. Today on the local news I saw Patrick Kennedy speaking on the floor of congress. They only showed a small portion of the speech but he was very angry about lack of media attention to the Afghanistan war by the media. I called his office to thank him and make sure that I got his point about the war. The person who answered the phone said that she could not speak for Rep. Kennedy. I said I don't want you to speak for him I'm asking you to confirm to me,if he is saying that we should end the war in Afghanistan.She did not know what I was talking about. She said just a minute, left me on hold for 3 minutes and hung up. I called back but they were closed.No wonder he is leaving congress. It must be difficult working with a staff that does not know whether he is for the Afghan war or against it. I have run into this so much in peace work where the staff are not up to the recent news about important events or their congressional,bosses public views.
I imagine that the one who answers the phones is far from qualified or authorized to speak to policy positions. Much ado about nothing.
Laughable vote
Hey did anyone notice this. despite the bluster about the absent press coverage rep patrick kennedy voted nay. Neigh neigh neigh... is this rep a donkey or an ass or a stallion. Vote here.....
thank you dennis for calling all asses
FRANKLY -- one can only wonder -- which are more monstrous and callous --
these "leaders" of the USA - its "lords of the universe" - that send their own people to make war for profit and empire -
giving them the big talk about "gungho america showing the world we're BOSS"...
feeding on young men and women's hormones , train them to be killers confident at what they're "fighting for" - adorned with "combat courageous" gear "guaranteed" to make them the BADDEST warriors on earth ......
OR the Taliban and Warlords against which these "good american boys and girls" are thrown ......
anyone that has watched the movie 'JARHEAD' (brothers , subtitled, i think)
with Gylenhall, the spiderman actor, the "princess amedala" from star wars - among others - can see what these monsters in washington have done to their own young americans....
the film shows both sides' brutalities - including how the taliban or warlords captured and tortured americans and induced them to brutally kill their OWN fellow marines for being "useless baggage we can not drag around....kill him...or i kill you"...
and then come home destroyed human beings.....
with one surviving veteran going crazy at home - threatening his family and brother (fellow marine) and himself - and the police come - and he yells
"what do you think? I'm a HERO? i'm NO hero -- you know what i DID?"
meaning he killed his own fellow marine as a consequence of being a "killer" sent by his own government. ..to a place they should NEVER have gone to...
now -- THAT is an antiwar film.
Actually Mr. Naiman, this debate should of been held back in 2001. Though I have to admit that the result would have been the same.
So many people must fall off the Cliff along with the Amerikan Military. It will take several years yet. Maybe two decades, but it will surely happen.
Get out out when you can. Sweden, Europe anywhere, Boliva, New Zealand, Australia and even Indonesia
Dont let the door hit you in the butt on your way out. Real Americans are going to stay and work to make our nation what it should be...bye.
Agreed. Folks keep saying Dems are rotten to the core. That's a fair statement. Keep paying attention, vote their sorry asses out over and over and over again until it gets closer to correct (yikes almost said right). Perfection doesn't exist, I don't care how great a third party you have. Progressive pretenders go straight to hell. I'll be glad to show you the way.
I don't understand your post. Are you saying that Democrats are better than third parties? That is debatable you know.
Well at least we got about 65 in the house against the War Racket.
Can we build on that?
Id vote for Jesse Ventura right now... this place has got to shake rattle and roll.
March 12, 2010
YOUNG WAR VETERANS COME HOME TO JOBLESSNESS
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 2:55 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The unemployment rate last year for young Iraq and Afghanistan veterans hit 21.1 percent, the Labor Department said Friday, reflecting a tough obstacle combat veterans face as they make the transition home from war.
The number was well above the 16.6 percent jobless rate for non-veterans of the same ages, 18 to 24.
As of last year, 1.9 million veterans had deployed for the wars since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Some have struggled with mental health problems, addictions, and homelessness as they return home. Difficulty finding work can make the adjustment that much harder.
The just-released rate for young veterans was significantly higher than the unemployment rate of young veterans in that age group of 14.1 percent in 2008.
Many of the unemployed are members of the Guard and Reserves who have deployed multiple times, said Joseph Sharpe, director of the economic division at the American Legion. Sharpe said some come home to find their jobs have been eliminated because the company has downsized. Other companies may not want to hire someone who could deploy again or will have medical appointments because of war-related health problems, he said.
''It's a horrible environment because if you're a Reservist and you're being deployed two or three times in a five-year period, you know you're less competitive,'' Sharpe said. ''Many companies that are already hurting are reluctant to hire you and time kind of moves on once you're deployed.''
One veteran looking for work is Dario DiBattista, 26, of Abingdon, Md., a graduate student who did two tours in Iraq in the Marine Reserves with a civil affairs unit. He said he's found that a lot of military skills don't readily transfer into the workplace, and in many cases, there aren't jobs to apply for even if companies want to hire veterans.
''If you don't have a strong family support system ... it's hard to get over the hump to make the decision of where you're going to live, what you do for work, where you're going to go to school, if you can even qualify to get into school,'' DiBattista said.
For veterans of all ages from the recent wars, the unemployment rate in 2009 was 10.2 percent. Historically, younger veterans have had more difficulty than their older counterparts finding a job because they often have less training and job experience. Some joined the military right out of high school.
One possible solution is to make it easier for veterans to transfer certifications they have for jobs they did in the military into the civilian workforce, Sharpe said.
The Labor and Veterans Affairs departments have a variety of programs addressing the problem. The hope is that one program, the Post-9/11 GI Bill rolled out last year, will be particularly effective. Under it, $78 billion is expected to be paid out in education benefits over the next decade for veterans of the recent wars to attend school.
The national unemployment rate last year was 9.3 percent, the highest since 1983.
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On the Net:
Department of Labor: http://www.dol.gov/
Yep, it is like the British diplomat who reported pre-war, we are fixing the facts... I wonder if there is a government today that does not do that.
Why would they have intelligence assessment reports if they could not cherry pick what they are gonna do anyway... like I wonder what happened to all the stuff that was not from "Curvball" in the official version of WMD's?