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What Was I Fighting For?
Editor's Note from The Nation: The following commentary is based on an interview by Z.P. Heller, editorial director of Brave New Films.
I was on liberty in Australia, dancing at a club I can't remember sometime around midnight, when it happened. The music shut off and an announcement came on: "America is under attack. Head back to your ships." This was the worst--the impossible. This was September 11, 2001.
Back at my ship, ambulance sirens blared. Hundreds of Marines stood on deck, anxiously awaiting word. Someone said the Pentagon had been attacked. My platoon sergeant stood up and delivered a fiery speech filled with "No one [expletive] with America!" and "We're going to kick some ass!" Later that night, the same sergeant turned to me asked me if I was ready.
Without giving it a second thought, I replied, "This is what I joined for."
Flash forward to a few weeks ago, as I recalled those words testifying before Senator John Kerry and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I sat where a young Kerry was once seated as he awoke the nation to the grim realities of war in Vietnam. I explained to the committee that I always desired to serve my country, ensure basic freedoms and fight for justice and the American way. This had been my dream since childhood, a way to honor my Mexican immigrant parents who worked tirelessly to give my family a better life, a way out of an East Los Angeles neighborhood plagued by gang violence. Yet what I witnessed and experienced during a seven-month deployment in Afghanistan followed by another in Iraq has forever shattered this once noble ambition.
As an infantry rifleman in the Marines Corps, I saw so much of these wars through nightly patrols. We were trained to approach a point of interest on foot, coordinating with translators whose sole vested interest in supplying us intelligence was to earn money and aid. We would gather information that often proved faulty, and question locals to the point we felt comfortable conducting a raid. After receiving an order, we would ransack homes, destroying windows and doors, chairs and tables, families and lives--detaining and arresting anyone who seemed suspicious. The problem, of course, was that it was impossible to distinguish militant Taliban members or Al Qaeda from innocent civilians. Everyone became a suspect.
In one instance, my squad leader gave me orders to pursue possible terrorists leaving the scene in which we had established a perimeter. My four-man fire team and I followed these suspects undetected for about 100 yards along an exposed ravine. When we were four feet from them, I drew my M-16 and pointed it directly at their faces, yelling, "Get down on the ground!" We beat them in search of nonexistent weapons, breaking limbs in the process. Later that day, I learned these men were innocent. Another time, my squad and I detained, beat and nearly killed a man, only to realize he was merely trying to deliver milk to his children. These raids compelled me to tell Congress we have been chasing ghosts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Amazingly, these patrols were all the same, whether I was in the desolate desert near Camp Rhino--the US-led coalition's first strategic foothold in Afghanistan--or stationed outside Basra in Iraq. The terrain was different, but what remained the same was the manner in which we carried out missions, the unconscionable acts of violence and collateral damage that followed, and the ever-present paranoia that every Muslim could be a terrorist. These raids even ended the same way. We would compensate the family whose home we had invaded, offering to fix or pay for broken furniture before moving on to the next village, where kids would throw rocks at us and give us the finger. To my knowledge, I never detained or arrested anyone guilty of a crime.
I witnessed firsthand the ineffectiveness of US military strategy in Afghanistan and Iraq. However, I didn't fully grasp the extent of these failed foreign policies or our government's deception until I returned home from war. Realizing there never were weapons of mass destruction, and that we would have difficulty tracking terrorists even if we had committed all the troops in our military, I felt as though my patriotism had been exploited for political gain. A select few were profiting from these wars, while the majority of Americans shouldered the enormous tax burden.
To me, the lesson learned in Afghanistan and Iraq was that the US flexed way too much muscle. We have ships, planes, helicopters, tanks, hovercrafts, trucks, Humvees--everything imaginable. But how effective is such military might against extremists who blend in with innocent civilians and fight guerrilla warfare? Moreover, how effective can it be when we leave civilians little alternative but to support extremists?
That is why the proposed $94.2 billion supplemental war-funding bill will be a complete waste of taxpayer dollars, as we continue to pursue a military solution for a political problem. Similarly, the 21,000 additional more troops will be a "drop in the bucket" in Afghanistan, as my esteemed colleague Andrew Bacevich has said. Bacevich, a retired colonel who served in Vietnam and lost a son in Iraq, sat next to me at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. He urged Congress to question the effectiveness and immense cost of fighting the "Long War" in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Congress must hear more voices like ours before escalating the war in Afghanistan any further. More veterans need to speak out, and as a society we must get beyond the public perception that veterans are a product of war. We are not a product. We took an oath to serve and protect, to make sacrifices for the greater good. It's an oath everyone ought to honor, and not just by thanking us for our service. In my mind, we are not seeing more veterans speak out because there is a sense that if they do, they will be letting go of something they truly believe in; they will be going back on their oath and their sacrifices will have been in vain. That is not the case.
A number of veterans and I are forming a group called Vets for Rethinking Afghanistan. We will voice our dissent in Congress, testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and meet with any Representatives willing to listen. We will raise awareness about how our military occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq have been counterproductive. We will express the dire need for the Obama administration to provide both an exit strategy and a more clearly defined mission and we will explain how dangerous it is for the US to use humanitarian aid as a bargaining chip to advance a flawed military agenda without giving diplomacy a real chance. Please join me in this cause.
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Show AllRick,
I salute your courage in telling the truth about a terrible situation. I imagine the easier course is to just tow the party line and say everyone is doing a sterling job in making Iraqi lives better. I hope there are many more like you. The truth may set us free.
I hope you are right, Candide.
But I'm afraid most US citizens won't hear because they don't want to know about all these acts committed in our name.
For every 1 of these brave lads like Rick who are speaking up, there are 100 others suffering PTSD in silence as they try to deal with what they have done.
WE, as a people, need to be ready to give all of them a lot of unconditional love to help them in their recovery and reconciliation.
Most US citizens will not hear about these atrocities because the conservative main stream media chooses to not tell these kinds of stories in the news. The MSM is the lap dog of the chicken hawks promoting war.
The Current Winter Soldiers were almost 100% blackout by MSM.
Helluva statement Rick Reyes! It is encouraging to know that there are proud and honest patriots like yourself!
yes, i salute you also in exposing (as if it needed further exposure) the absurdity of this incredible waste...not just of tax dollars, but of the individual and collective intelligence and creativity of human beings. i too hope there are many many more like you and that they speak up loudly and publicly. may your voices break through the stubbornly, willfully covered ears of the complacent. may we reach the tipping point of a new sanity of transitioning away from the ways of war and to a profound healing and a cooperation with and respect for one another and this beautiful planet's realities.
You were fighting for the boss class, you stupid scumbag.
Apologize to the world for your evil.
USA = EVIL
USMC = WAR CRIMINALS
I agree to some extent, but no need to call names. I think this IS his way of apologizing.
Clearly Corporal Reyes has done a lot more to stop evil in this world than an anonymous message board coward like you will ever do.
Hundreds of thousands of low income young men and women are suckered into joining the military every year, raised on lies of Patriotic gore. They are then sent to do brutal things to others, and in the act brutalize themselves, and it's in YOUR name, whether you like it or not. Whenever any of them manage to wake up to it and speak out, they deserve our support and compassion, not cowardly, anonymous attacks on message boards. Your embrace of easy self-righteousness indicates that you are an individual of very low moral character and intellect, regardless of how politically correct your opinions might be.
Are you a U.S. citizen? If so do you pay federal income taxes? If so, then you are PAYING for the boss class wars of aggression, which makes you equally culpable as any soldier, you stupid scumbag. YOU need to apologize to the world for YOUR evil.
Taxpayers = war criminals
Like it or not, if you are paying for it you are guilty of the same crimes you accuse of the military.
Just wondering: do you pay taxes in whatever country you live in?
I am a U.S. citizen, and I pay federal income taxes, and I hate myself for not having the courage to stop.
That's a very honest admission. The very fact that you're so dismayed about having the your taxes used for immoral purposes shows that you have a strong conscience.
The difference is I can't CHOOSE whether I want to pay taxes or not and I don't CHOOSE how I want that tax money to be spent. People can CHOOSE to not go into the military. Yes, soldiers must do what they are ordered to do and yes, they may not question their higher-ups about what they are being ordered to do which is a perfectly valid reason for anyone at any time to NOT join the military. Who in their right mind would take a job where you knew you would never be able to stand up to your boss and say "no" if you knew what you were doing was wrong? After learning that he had beat and broken the bones of innocent men, he didn't feel the deep moral pull within himself to throw down his rifle and denounce the military? Did he think this was a one-time mistake? How could you live with yourself? That they were just following orders is not a valid excuse. I feel no sympathy for people like Reyes, you deserve to live with the horrible memories and guilt of what you've done simply for joining up in the first place.
Don't be too hard on him. He was probably young and dumb and full of come when he joined, as my husband likes to say. The government likes them that way.
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT OUR HONORABLE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING AND ESPECIALLY THOSE HAVING THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP AND HELP REVERSE THE MADNESS ! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!!!
When I joined the forces, I was young, dumb and full of cum. It's hardly disrespectful to say what some of my fellow recruits said at the time we served... And it's nowhere near as disrespectful as what the nco's said to us when we went thru basic.
"I feel no sympathy for people like Reyes, you deserve to live with the horrible memories and guilt of what you've done simply for joining up in the first place."
The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes;
[From Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice"]
As a moderate progressive Democrat, I find your bashing of Reyes totally out of line and very UNPATRIOTIC of you to disrespect our honorable soldiers especially those who are courageously speaking out and trying to reverse the madness. Please leave the country NOW and go to Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, or even China where you belong and see how you like it there !
[Who in their right mind would take a job where you knew you would never be able to stand up to your boss and say "no" if you knew what you were doing was wrong? ]
I'm amazed you think you can do that in the civvie workforce. There are ways for soldiers and sailors to complain, they're archaic, not too effective and when used the soldier is subject to a great deal of pressure to recant any and all complaints. A soldier can refuse to obey an unlawful command, but that's a heck of a lot easier to do on a base than in the field; in the field your co is armed and might just shoot you if you refuse to do what he orders you to do.
In the civvie workforce I've been sacked before by bosses who've objected to something I've said when off the worksite. There have been many stories on CD about employees fired by employers in the states because they've not been paying members of the Republican party, or because they had the 'wrong' bumpersticker on their cars. I was never charged by the military when I spoke my mind, of course I wasn't in the us navy.
Why would you assume that ANY young person raised in American society is in his or her "right mind"? Are you really prepared to defend the full political and ethical ramifications of every decision you have made in your privileged American life? I would be very willing to bet that you have participated in systems of exploitation and violence every bit as real, if less immediate and obvious, as the ones Mr. Reyes participated in. You just didn't have to get your hands dirty to do so--somebody else did it for you.
And are you really so comfortable condemning every young person who may or may not have had the benifits of your own personal insights, or the variety of personal choices you may or may not have had at 17 or 18 years old? Your post is completely void of compassion, and I am not sure how you think any progress is going to be made on any front without more compassion. Basically you are saying that people who naively enlisted in the Imperial Army and participated in the illegal wars should just burn in hell forever. If that is your own bitter view of reality, then fine, but it's a stupid way to look at life, and not the least bit practical. Those soldier are going to live in our society now for the next fifty years or more. It will be a far better world if as many of them as possible can come around to seeing how they were used and exploited for evil purposes, and once they do come around, they need to be validated and welcomed, not sneered at by elitist snots like you.
And you certainly CAN opt not to pay federal income taxes. In fact, it is a far less risky decision than "throwing down your rifle" while on deployment in a combat zone.
Since when is paying income tax voluntary?
There's no draft (yet). Everybody in the US military is a volunteer.
Well, it seems that if you're the prime minister of Canada - or a former pm - tax paying is indeed optional.
Are you really a volunteer if the only job you can find is in the army? If the only way you can get health care for your wife and kids is to serve in the army, are you really serving voluntarily?
Anyone earning less than $14,500 per year doesn't pay taxes...
Simplify your life... Work part time, grow food, make art, volunteer...
I know plenty of activists who are federal income tax protestors. None of them have ever faced the consequences that a soldier who becomes a dissident in a war zone will face.
Yes, it is a volunteer military. A lot of young people make all kinds of stupid, uninformed decisions that have tragic consequences later on. Rational and compassionate people understand that, and applaud those young people when they realize what they have done and try to atone for it. Then there are the bitter little cowards like you who prefer to call people names anonymously on message boards.
What consequences have the tax protesters you know faced?
By the way, calling justapunkgirl a "bitter little coward" while deprecating people who call others names anonymously on message boards is logically inconsistent. It's also lacking in the compassion that you preach in another posting.
Sneaker: Here's a suggestion: read the responses to your comment, reflect on them, then write an open apology to Mr. Reyes, thanking him for seeing the light and for devoting himself to persuading our leaders to change their ways.
He's no seeing the light.
He's trying to salve his conscience without fully repudiating the war machine.
Denounce the war machine or you're part of the problem, pseudo-progressives.
He's seeing some light. Explaining to him why you think he should fully repudiate the wars would be much more effective than calling him a stupid scumbag.
Sneaker: "You were fighting for the boss class... Apologize to the world for your evil."
What a breathtaking level of simplicity! Unless you are nine years old this is beneath contempt as it is a childlike abdication of responsibility. Who are the USA? You Sneaker, and every citizen of the country. The USMC and the US government are your employees and representatives. It's painful and humiliating to admit this but it is without a doubt the case. Certainly they are out of control at the moment but there are avenues for curtailing their behavior. However these call for courage and cooperation and hard work. It requires a lot more than just turning up every four years to choose between the evil of two lessers. It definitely requires more than anonymous internet sniping at people who are already taking responsibility for their own and their governments actions, as Corporal Reyes is, in a situation that leaves him exposed to all sorts of jingoistic railing - let alone ludicrous defamation from the other side from people who mistakenly believe they are outside the current reality somehow. Perhaps orbiting the earth on a satellite? Pointing fingers at each other is fine in the school yard but worse than useless for citizens of a polity.
Be an adult and face the ugly truth. All Americans are implicated in the crimes going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. No one is innocent. Taking responsibility is the first step towards regaining control.
There is no "they" there is only an "us".
Like their fore bearers during the Vietnam era, it has been veterans whom have provided some of the most effective messages against the Bush wars. Hopefully, they will guard against some of the co-opting propaganda (the American version of the "Dolchstosslegende," soldiers spit on upon return, as lied about in the Rambo movies) that the right wing noise machine is undoubtedly preparing. It is imperative that the anger be rightfully directed towards those blundered the USA into these fiascoes in the first place: the Bush crime family.
Sneaker, please don't make accusations like that. Without a strong military, we are way too vulnerable. Of course military men like Reyes [and me, and thousands of others] have been used improperly. But it is the group giving the orders that needs to be attacked, not the soldiers like Reyes. We, all of us, need to join forces to protest and change America's empire building policies. Many of us joined the military because we believed it was a way we could contribute directly to the strength of a great country. Now it is up to the people to prove us right or wrong in that decision. Yes, there were times when we all should have stood up and said 'no way'. But until you have been there, you cannot understand the pressures to obey orders. I salute Reyes, and all of the Winter Soldiers who have stood up for sanity. I am a member of Veterans for Peace, a supporter of men like Reyes, of Iraq Veterans Against the War, and yes, of those soldiers of conscience who simply said no. Here in Bellingham, Washington, we are working to create a Sanctuary City, as we have worked for them elsewhere. Men like Reyes are men of courage. Salute them, do not attack them. Save your venom for the rich fat bastards who promote these wars and fund them and profit from them.
[Without a strong military, we are way too vulnerable]
To what? The last nation that actually attacked the usa was nuked. Do you really believe that any nation on earth is going to attack you after that? If so you've been fooled. The 'strong military' has been used by the corporate elite to enforce their will on the world and to carve out an american empire. They aren't fighting for 'freedom' nor are they fighting for 'democracy' nor are they protecting human rights. They fight for money, their idealism has been perverted by militarism.
It's far too easy to blame the soldiers for what their leaders order them to do. When are those who benefit from ordering atrocities going to pay for their actions. It's like busting the street dealer while ignoring the fact that the CIA is importing the drugs sold by the kid...
Rick,
Good of you to come forward lik this. I fear that a lot of people know this is all wrong but thre are a lot of Americans who simply love to fight, or at least romanticize the whole notion. America has become a war-based economy and leadership is making a mint on the blood of guys like yourself. Expect no change other that a slide into poverty.
Too bad guys like this don't realize these things before they join up. Sounds like Vietnam all over again. What a mess.
Our time will come when China is the new world dominator, and they'll send troops to the U.S. to fight us in our homes.
I noticed that Mr. Reyes was in the service before 9/11. For those guys thrust into the insanity of the Iraq occupation right off the bat, I have sympathy. For those guys who joined up after, say, the Downing St. Memos came out, I have much less tolerance.
I would be willing to bet that if you had surveyed the top ten percent of students to graduate from the best private and public high schools in the last five years, less than 5% of them would have been able to give a cogent explanation of the "Downing Street Memos." How the hell do you expect the kind of kids who view the military as a valid career choice would have been exposed to any sort of meaningful discussion of the Downing Street Memos and what they mean for the validity of the illegal invasion? I swear to god, some of you progressives live in your own little blogosphere bubbles.
The Downing St. Memo came out in 2005, shortly after an incredibly close presidential race between John Kerry and George Bush. A great deal of the campaign rhetoric centered on the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of students had already held demonstrations and protests. Colin Powell had admitted that there was no link between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. Around the same time as the memo, in May 2005, the news came out that the Army had lied about the case of Pat Tillman, Army Ranger and Arizona Cardinal killed by friendly fire.
I think you give American teenagers too little credit. They may have missed the Memo, but they could hardly overlook a presidential election. Most schools take the opportunity to hold mock elections and debates.
But even if they totally slept through that, Eminem, the Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen, Sean "P.Diddy" Combs, Chris Rock and a host of other popular entertainers had spoken out and organized against the "War" by that time.
But let me tell you of a personal experience I had. One of my co-workers wanted to enlist. I told him: "This is a dishonorable war and anyone who supports it by enlisting will be tainted with dishonor". He replied, as he pantomimed shooting a machine gun, "I don't care, I just want to kill some motherfuckers".
But the problem is the economy is in bad shape, and especially young people in distressed urban areas have little hope of good jobs. Fewer and fewer jobs offer benefits. I've heard of single moms joining up because they can't afford hundreds of dollars a month for health insurance. Then they lure people with promises of free education...
Don't shoot the messenger.
...and they are subject to slick advertising campaigns that make military service look like the highest calling one could aspire to. Teenage boys, in particular, watch alot of sports on TV and they see those commercials over and over again telling them of all the advantages of signing up.
Thank you NMLib for pointing out the truth. I know this hurts but we need to be aware of this before we can find our way out of this mess. Unfortunetly, some people on this site blame the people who signed up for everything as well as those of us who work in jobs related to defense, directly or indirectly. And these same retards will vote for bad pols everytime.
"Too bad guys like this don't realize these things before they join up."
It is up to us to make sure they do realize what they are about to sign up for. I have successfully convinced two young people to refrain from enlisting, one a man, the other a woman.
And when China does send troops to the US we will all become insurgents. But how are they going to get here?
What Was I Fighting For?
You weren't fighting for nothing. You were fighting for absolutely nothing.
No, he was fighting for Halliburton and Exxon.
He was fighting to keep himself and his buddies alive, just like every war.
Your logic escapes me.
You could say that about anyone in the war: the invading troops such as ours, the innocents, and the Taliban.
Face it. We are an occupying army that has absolutely no business there.
If vets could speak, en masse, honestly about their experiences and their feelings to those approaching military age, recruiters might have a much harder time...I will direct my 14-year old son to this man's comments...reality is never quite like the advertising poster, is it? and we have masters creating the advertising message, and making sure it has the stage all to it's little ol' self...
I too salute Rick Reyes and other veterans who are speaking out against the military. The Army especially tries to lure young people by setting up recruiting centers in arcades in shopping malls. They also sponsor indoor arena football games where they give t-shirts to youngsters, and after the games, let them check out some of the "cool" humvees. Thank you Rick Reyes and other veterans for exposing the Military Industrial Complex.
As every soldier and DoD worker knows damn well, it's not the workers or the soldiers who are to blame but the pols who choose to abuse their work and service who are to blame and must be held accountable. You're an honorable soldier Mr. Reyes.
BS. They signed up. They hold the guns. They drop the bombs.
They say things like ""No one [expletive] with America!" and "We're going to kick some ass!"
They do things like "my squad leader gave me orders to pursue possible terrorists leaving the scene in which we had established a perimeter. My four-man fire team and I followed these suspects undetected for about 100 yards along an exposed ravine. When we were four feet from them, I drew my M-16 and pointed it directly at their faces, yelling, "Get down on the ground!" We beat them in search of nonexistent weapons, breaking limbs in the process. Later that day, I learned these men were innocent. Another time, my squad and I detained, beat and nearly killed a man, only to realize he was merely trying to deliver milk to his children. These raids compelled me to tell Congress we have been chasing ghosts in Afghanistan and Iraq. "
"To my knowledge, I never detained or arrested anyone guilty of a crime. "
MAXPAYNE: "it's not the workers or the soldiers who are to blame but the pols who choose to abuse their work and service "
If what you are saying is true. Then you are calling Mr. Reyes account of the above a lie. There was no politician at his side when he "detained, beat and nearly killed a man, only to realize he was merely trying to deliver milk to his children."
We are a country of 300 million people, with only 2 million in the armed forces. Why the other 298 million should be held hostage by this idiotic minority that volunteers to wage war is beyond me. Hawaii was a recently conquered territory in WWII, and apart from the Civil War, America's "brave warriors" haven't fought a defensive war since 1812.
People who join the US military are not joining to "defend the US" they are joining to fight aggressive wars. Or as Smedley Butler (who wax at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history) famously put it:
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."