Kucinich Questions Bush’s Mental Health Over Iran
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich on Tuesday mockingly questioned President George W. Bush’s mental health for saying Iran’s nuclear ambitions might trigger World War III.
“I seriously believe we have to start asking questions about his mental health,” Kucinich, a quirky, long-shot candidate in the race for his party’s presidential nomination in the November, 2008 election. “There’s something wrong. He does not seem to understand his words have real impact.”
Kucinich spoke to the editorial board of The Philadelphia Inquirer ahead of a Democratic debate in Philadelphia.
Bush told a news conference two weeks ago: “I’ve told people that if you’re interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them (Iran) from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.”
Kucinich, a member of the U.S. Congress from Ohio, has tried in the past to convince his colleagues to impeach both Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, to no avail.
He told The Inquirer he did not believe his remarks about Bush’s mental stability were irresponsible.
“You cannot be a president of the United States who’s wanton in his expression of violence,” Kucinich said. “There’s a lot of people who need care. He might be one of them. If there isn’t something wrong with him, then there’s something wrong with us. This, to me, is a very serious question.”
© Reuters 2007
Right On Dennis! Nothing “quirky” about this man. He speaks truth to power! Since when is straight talk quirky? I think the mainstream press is “quirky” for not providing balanced, non judgemental, reporting of these so-called “debates” which are really sound bites.
When you see these statements on the front page of newspapers there will be hope . . . . Until then keep your power dry and find a smile where you can.
That’s my guy! He is one of the bravest, most honest politicians out there. That is exactly why the media (propaganda machine) portray him as a non-contender. The powers that be are spineless, corrupt liars who could not tell the truth if this country’s fate hung in the balance, which I believe it does. There isn’t another presidential candidate out there that isn’t in the pockets of corporate America. Go get em Dennis!
Yes his mental health and the effects on our collect health being subjected to his&co’s streams of lies. And the health of the individuals in the media in presenting his statements as truth. Even statements like “Kucinich, a quirky, long-shot candidate in the race for his party’s presidential nomination in the November, 2008 election.” even statements like that are a little crazy for the misdirection that is there. Kucinich being a contender means we don’t accept any marginalization of his candidacy or his history or position. Write Reuters now and tell them to stop it!
Right on, Kucinich, tell it to those twisted souls in the White House.
To fredhb:
excellent rejoinder on the use of the word ‘quirky’ by Reuters, which is obviously meant to downplay Kucinich and his public interventions.
Note also the use of ‘long-shot’ which aims at disqualifying Kucinich before the game is even over.
Yep, Reuters, a very objective and fair news agency!
I’ve been questioning Bush Jr’s mental health for years now. But I do not think this will make Kucinich any new friends. If Kucinich was a front-runner, the Rovian machine would be called in to destroy him. Remember Howard Dean?
This is the one candidate who speaks from a position of honesty and integrity and nothing but honesty and integrity.
I was watching the debate last night; DK was so clearly head and shoulders above the other candidtates in terms of speaking truth to power, ability to recognize and address the core issues, eloquence, passion, and integrity. No other candidate was even close. You could see that the other candidates were uncomfortable with him. They have sold their souls in their grab for power. Dennis has not; his mere presence in the race shames them all. They won’t admit it, but they know it.
But I just get so sad. It was 24 minutes into the debate before Dennis got to say anything. By the time I gave up after 10:00 PM, he still had not been asked a direct question–one that he was supposed to be the first to address. I don’t think he got even half the time either Clinton, Obama, or Edwards were allowed.
And this is a reflection of Dennis’ suffering at the hands of the mainstrean media. He would have to strip naked and masturbate on stage to get any more than the paltry coverage. He will never get the coverage he deserves.
Even the so-called “progressive” media basically ignore him. I don’t think Keith Olberman has ever had a kind word to say, publicly, about Dennis. I am almost certain that Dennis has never been a guest on Olberman’s show. (I may be wrong: I am old and my memory is starting to go. I may have just missed it.)Dave Sirota ignores him; Dave is too busy trying to convince us that Edwards is a populist. As if.
Yet Dennis carries on. He must be exhausted. He must know how big the task is and how determined to stop him the establishment is. His very life is the definition of courage. I love this man.
I don’t think I’ll watch any more debates. I don’t think I’ll watch any more news. I just get weary. I just can’t stand it. I cannot bear to watch as he is left to wither and die.
The difference between the Kucinich and Dean incidents is that Kucinich is taped taking a truthful shot at the Busher while Dean is caught in an over the top reaction. If a Rovian ploy chose to replay the Kucinich comment enough times perhaps Americans would finally realize that they have a non-raving lunatic steering our ship of state.
well, we must all remember to predicate everything on the simple reality that the entire world has finally gone totally insane. the whole world is nuts.
Was anyone else here working for this guy back in 2004 like I was? Anyone remember what happened? Being somewhat honest about his chances of election, the purported purpose of all that work and money many of us put into him was to “influence the Democratic (sic) platform at the convention.” You know, maybe something about that pesky illegal war thing…
In case you don’t remember, here’s a synopsis. Kerry saluted and “reported for duty.” Kucinich immediately rolled over like a trained dog, and instructed his delegates to wholeheartedly support Kerry without reservation. Not a SINGLE ATTEMPT was made to do a damn thing to the platform of the Corpo-Dems. Not even a speech. No negotiation. Nothing; all that time and money was a complete waste. Why didn’t we sign up with the Kerry campaign in the first place? After all those “differences” were allegedly highlighted during his campaign between him and the other “candidates”, the moment it counted he fell into formation like a soldier obeying his CO. This “quirky” guy is nothing more than the DNC’s Pied Piper, sent out to call back all the wayward progressives who may be starting to finally get the crazy idea that the D’s are just as complicit as the R’s.
Fool me once… won’t get fooled again, eh? See if he doesn’t do the exact same thing again next year. You’ll have to look on your own though… you won’t find any more of these flattering articles on CD when he does it.
Until very recently, the Bush-Cheney-Rove propaganda machine had convinced the majority of Americans that they had more to fear from terrorist bogeymen than they did from climate change. This is the Bush-Cheney Regime’s penultimate crime against humanity!
Well Yea Irish Bear,
I supported Dennis last time too and made some great friends along the way and so I am gonna vote for him again if we get a primary down here in Ann Coulter country.
Sure he won’t win…hell that ain’t my problem… he is the anchor of the progressives in The Democratic Party or the left wing of the Republicratic political War Machine and he was the only Dem in the debate that brought up “Impeach” on TV.
Hey, he even saw a UFO at Shirley Mclain’s, He can’t be all that bad….
I guess I just like the little guy because he is from Cleveland too and we have to stick together to survive the persecution and Dennis made me smile.
ah, shrub, the perfect president for the age of fox: fairly unbalanced.
Yeah - well his Dean moment could be the UFO answer; but I don’t care. He still has integrity possessed by none of the others. At this stage of the game, he could take a squat on stage and I’d still vote for him.
As someone who has been a mental health professional for over 25 years I can say, based on observations, that Bush is at the very least emotionally disengaged, lacking in empathy, and displays a polarization in his thought patterns that speaks to a “black and white” view of the world. He should, at the very least, be examined by a panel of nongovernmental mental healthprofessionals. I believe it is likely he would be considered unfit for office.
If Dennis is the most progressive candidate on the ballot here in Minnesota, he’ll unite Dems and most progressives.
If it’s Hillary, expect a splinter.
His honesty is refreshing. Bush is nuts.
Irish Bear wrote: “Not a SINGLE ATTEMPT was made to do a damn thing to the platform of the Corpo-Dems. Not even a speech. No negotiation. Nothing; all that time and money was a complete waste.”
I’m a registered Green Party voter in Maryland, who not only donated money to Kucinich’s 2004 Democratic primary campaign but distributed Kucinich literature door to door. I don’t feel that my time and money was a complete waste. Far from it.
Your description of Kucinich’s action at the Democratic convention in 2004 is flatly wrong. There was plenty of hard negotiation over the platform. They were not able to get much changed. Kerry was the nominee; Kerry was going to get the platform he wanted. As for supporting the Democratic nominee, what was Kucinich going to do? Quit the party and run as an independent? Kucinich didn’t order any of his delegates to vote for Kerry; he released them to vote their consciences.
Kucinich is engaged in a long-term project to build a strong progressive political consituency within the Democratic Party. He knows he is not going to win the nomination in 2008; his candidacy is a vehicle for that constituency to organize around so that it can eventually win nominations and elections in the future.
I think Kucinich is very smart about what he’s doing, and has been and is very successful at organizing and constituency-building.
I was a registered Democrat since 1972, switched my registration to the Green Party to help them get permanent ballot access in Maryland, switched back to Democrat in 2000 out of disgust with Ralph Nader (who, although he was the Green Party nominee in 2000, is not and has never been a member of the Green Party, and in 2004 declined to seek the nomination of the Green Party and ran as an independent), and then switched back to the Green Party, basically out of disgust with the corruption of local Democratic politicians.
I don’t think there is an “either-or” choice for progressives, between working to organize a progressive movement within the Democratic Party as Kucinich is doing, or supporting the Green Party and helping to build it up from the grassroots, from local and state elections, to Congress and maybe eventually to a real shot at the Presidency. Both are long term projects and both are needed.
As usual, I’ve learned more from the comments here than I did from the article. Thanks to all.
I too think Bush may be mentally ill. Frankly, considering his former addiction to alcohol and cocaine, if he had not been born into a powerful family and selected president he may have ended up a homeless person raving on a street corner somewhere.
Parenthetically, this is one more analogous factor linking the Bush regime to Nazi Germany, since some historians now believe Hitler was also mentally ill.
To fredhb:
Please don’t ask the MM to be “balanced.” Balanced journalism means that if someone says the Earth is round, the journalist has to find someone to say it’s flat to “balance” the story. If 99% of climate scientists say climate change is real and is being driven by human activity, the journalist has to seek out the 1% (who are paid by Big Carbon) to say they aren’t so sure. The goal of conscientious journalists should be objectivity, not balance.
Can’t wait to see what Keith Olbermann says today about Chris Mathews’ whoring for the MSM oligarchy by making DK the butt of a joke.
Secularanimist: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for setting the “nobody’s good enough for me” people straight. I try to be tolerant. but that type of criticsm wears me out as much as the hate Nadar/blame Nadar types. Get a grip folks. And get your damned facts straight! I, for one am damned glad to have him in the fray, especially considering how shabbily his own party treats him, not to mention the “king makers” in the MSM. Dennis is quite aware of his long shot odds—probably even that if he managed to get a real chance to be President, his life would be in terrible danger. But damn it, folks! He believes in something other than his political future. and fortunes. Name me one other Democrat running for President who fits that bill. He is the conscience, not just of the Democratic Party, but of the nation’s electorate, and still some of you will whine and complain that he let you down. Anyone who speaks truth, anyone who exudes the decency and leadership qualities that DK does, is a beacon of hope for all of us, and if people fail to see it, well then, it is really their own blindness that prevents them. I don’t have to back a “winner”. I just want to support anyone who represents what Dennis Kucinich does. Apart from Cynthia McKinney, name me one politician who has unabashedly put their money where their mouth is, and who refused to back down against overwhelming force to defeat them. DK knows exactly what his odds are, and it is amazing and incredibly inspiring, that he gets up every single day and just keeps doing it. How anyone could not admire that, is beyond my ability to comprehend!
My favorite part of this article is where DK says,”If there’s not something wrong with him then there’s something wrong with us”.
Well said and nicely done DK–I am hoping (and getting ready to do my part come primary and general election time)for your success.
THE WAR MACHINE’S MENECE … VOTE DENNIS!
Let’s not forget that Cynthia McKinney is running as a green party candidate next year.
Although Dennis still has my vote (and always has!) Cynthia is most definitely an honest progressive thinker. This woman is not afraid to stand up to the Rovians, nor to the military industrial complex.
There is obviously something wrong with significqnt segment of the voters who helped this unlearned & reckless person with a disdain for the environment as well as logic, steal the election from a resposible and knowledgeable candidate with an apprecian and understanding of the environment. Therein lies the real problem
there is no room for honesty and integrity in american politics. it is nothing but money. the american people are getting cheated, when a solid man like dennis can’t even get out of the shute.
Interesting, since the Bush admin. after the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, took that as an excuse to started going through the private mental health records of ALL Americans in the last year to find out who they could take guns away from. Remember, depression=mental illness too.
Now we have possibly the most dangerous person on Earth (Tex)in control of BOEING(advertiser on Public TV) Nuke cruise missiles, Bombers and chem weapons who really should have an independent mental health assessment done on him to make sure he is umm…sane?….mentally fit?
WTF - “But I do not think this will make Kucinich any new friends.”
I think you might have missed K’s point. K isn’t trying to make friends of the establishment. Rather, he’s calling attention to one insane person’s behavior and shouting a wake up call to the rest of us who stand by and watch the insanity continue. If the MSM paints K as irresponsible they once again become an accomplice to Bushco’s crimes of insanity. Dennis made a very calculated move to show the people how the MSM will defend one of their own by demonizing or trivializing the whistleblower’s message. There is nothing careless about this man.
“America’s political system is a large and complex criminal conspiracy. Most voters enable it without benefiting from it. Voting is a ploy of the two-party power elites to keep the population docile, delusional and duped. Our government has been hijacked in plain sight, despite elections. We cannot get it back by voting. All the main candidates are part of the conspiracy. Voting only encourages them. In our fake democracy corrupt politicians use doses of voting as a political narcotic. We must free more Americans of the addiction. Otherwise they will keep hallucinating that some Democratic or Republican President or controlled Congress will actually give us the changes we crave for.”
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/10/31/004750.php
Dennis is a very rare exception!
The only way Dennis will lose the election is for the people, who like him and his stand on the issues,vote for someone else. Vote your conscience and heart - Vote for Dennis Kucinich.
I worked on his campaign in 2004, and we raised lots of money (for us) for his campaign. Dennis is the only candidate to whom I have contributed this election cycle.
What is there to question? Bush is a f@#$cking moron! The empirical evidence speaks for itself!
Nice to hear someone state the facts clearly.
We need a new Third Party that dispenses with the “Left vs Right” talk radio mentality B.S., and embraces a simple philosophy: Freedom vs. Authoritarianism. The Authoritarians are the enemy of mankind.
Dennis and Ron Paul could run together on the same ticket.
“Dennis and Ron Paul could run together on the same ticket.”
they would totally disagree on social programs. Paul is a Libertarian, Kucinich is a left of center Progressive.
That said, they both have some good things to say.
For Bush to not know the weight of his words as president of our nation after nearly 7 years shows that he is neither competent (something which was evident in his 2000 campaign) nor responsible enough for the job.
The Bush administration is the worst disaster to ever befall this nation.
Well, I know Kucinich is socialist and Paul is a paleoconservative, but they are more alike WHERE IT REALLY MATTERS than any other two candidates.
As usual, Dennis Kucinich shows the way. I have wasted hours agonizing over a description of Bush that would capture his bizarre essence. I have called him a creep, a frat-boy, a moron, a war criminal, a cowardly draft-dodger, a moral imbecile, an intellectual pervert, a liar, and a louse. The only thing I didn’t call him was mentally ill, and that, of course, is the best description of all. Thank you Dennis.
good, now if we could get a few Psychiatrist to question his sanity, and if found lacking, institutionalize him!
I thought Bush was a loonie on a binge when he was first elected. I believe he is a puppet of the corporations.
Because they made so many mistakes in supporting the president in his rush to “war on terrorism” they continue to turn a blind I to the obvious. I have been voting in elections in this country for 50 years, and I know that people like
Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, Barry Goldwater, McGovern, and on and on have no chance of getting elected, not because they are quirky, but because they tell the truth. As was once said in a film, “You can’t handle the truth” and I believe that Americans in general would much rather hear someone spin them a tale than to hear the truth. That’s one of the reasons that we have hedge fund managers paying 15% on hundreds of millions of dollars of “income” because that money has been defined as “capital gains,” another fantasy that the politicians have sold to the American public as a truth. Vote out everyone that is in and start over again. It couldn’t be any worse than it is now.
And, yes, I think that our president is suffering from a diagnosable disability, and I have a fair amount of experience in dealing with people like him.
I don’t care how electable truthtellers are. They’ll always have my vote.
“If there isn’t something wrong with him, then there’s something wrong with us.”
Yes, Dennis - it’s us….or more accurately “them” - not us on Common Dreams. We know what’s what, and we know you are the one to lead America. Would that “they’d” only give you a chance!
Keep on sockin’it to ‘em- harder and harder!!
I’ve been saying for a long time that a madman has the wheel. Kucinich is correct. Everyone should be questioning Bush’s sanity; failure to do so may result in war with Iran!
I read quickly thru these responses - don’t see that anyone mentioned “Bush on the Couch” - read it. Very revealing. As a govt employee, Bush needs to be drug tested and NOW - and regularly from hereonin. He lacks basic knowledge and intelligence, and he is not even close to being a critical thinker. I blame everyone who voted for him - AND GORE for not contesting the 2000 vote - for the damage done to my country and the rest of the world under GWB’s watch. God help us all.
doughyden: “I don’t think I’ll watch any more debates. I don’t think I’ll watch any more news. I just get weary. I just can’t stand it. I cannot bear to watch as he is left to wither and die.”
Amen, My Brother. I am with you. The weariness has taken its toll on me as well. There is no hope for this country when a man like this is flushed away on ALL sides…None.
the media and establishment will do everything in their power to minimize and dismiss the fearless clear-headedness of a true public servant like Kucinich. “Quirky” is cute, small, whimsical, not to be taken seriously. Anyone who doesn’t take Kucinich’s words about Bush’s mental health seriously is asleep at the wheel.
A man like Bush who pushes the big pharmacueticals on with his investment should be taking a few pharmie drugs for his Mental Illness. I believe that King George is a undiagnosed Loonie, In the world of the mentally ill the field that I work in :we are called the Walking Wounded. Well George Bush has alot of wounded Vets he better see his past term as a haunting PTSd Post traumatic spokeman disorder…. he realy does not know English, I say he is a delusional paranoid Schizophrenic Goerge Bush’s diagnosis
doughden & celebrity…I feel connected to what you are saying..Dennis is all that keeps me going. There are children that I love that live in Iran. I just sent Dennis another check..I hope everyone else sends him $, too. he is the only hope, as I see it. Worked on his campaign in 2004, do now and will work on his re-election in 2012!
After this comment on the President’s mental health, During the debate last night, Russert asked Congressman Kucinich if he ever saw any UFO’s. I feel that this question was in retaliation. Shades of Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson. Now Dennis is being classified as a nut by the established media.
“Kucinich, a quirky, long-shot candidate.”
I am really tired of this kind of “journalism.”
And now they’re gonna burn him at the stake about some UFO thing.
Crazy.
What in the world do people see in the other candidates except what they are being sold to see?
And to think I was considering voting for Kucinich just because he has the best looking wife of the whole bunch. This guy has brains!
Great comments by all.
I hear also, despair, in many comments. And I think the reason for that is, while confronted with a deranged and morally bankrupt leadership (which has been left unchecked to continue its damage), we don’t believe, really, that Dennis can be nominated as the Democratic choice to help lead us out of this mess.
I would offer this note of encouragement. Every one of the democratic contenders is WAY better than Bush and Company. We really would begin a great process of undoing and redoing even if our only option is Hillary.
So don’t give up quite yet, even if we don’t see progress in, firstly, the MSM objectively reporting political content, and secondly, in Dennis’ numbers and support beginning a reasonable surge upwards.
To repeat — any of the Democratics running for office is much better than Bush. And the debate last night reminded me that in 50-70% of the problems that we need to tackle, even the “worst” among the Dem hopefuls will bring us forward on those problems.
We need to keep our despair of the Dems down to a management level, also, because we need to keep our focus on who the true “opponent” is — currently Bush, and next year, Giulliani.
So, while you may be aware that Dennis faces an uphill battle, don’t let it bring you down. Even he knows that his chances are slim, and yet he wants his ideas to be given air. They have been. This is a positive.
And while the media sucks, which it has for a while, it is up to us to guard this estate, and it is up to the hopefuls to guard this estate, and no one seems to be under any great illusion about this. Not only Dennis, but the others recognize the failure of the MSM.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Please don’t despair of this.
I’M so glad that the congressman questioned bush’s mental fitness to be president,and emotional stability in general.caligula in a 3000 dollar suit.somebody had to finally say it.ironically,i remember during the 1972 presidential election,the msn presented nixon as the steady hand,the voice of reason,while sen mcgovern was scurrilously presented as the purveyor of “acid,amnesty,and abortion”a classic hippie’s hippie.you had to have been there to appreciate the profound absurdity of that.nixon way well have been clinically,er,disturbed.in any event,the boy mayor pretty much told the truth on the boy king.
Nature’s way of thanking progressive men, regardless of stature.
What’s quirky and longshot about the most sincere Democrat in that party? The only longshot for him is the MSM and money sieve, and whether the majority of Americans can learn to tune it out and vote according to their own interests instead. Assuming voting makes a difference any more.
Once Kucinich loses the endorsement, all progressive eyes will be on him though. Will he endorse Hillary? If so, to heck with him. She’s got no scruples on issues as tantamount as war — and we’ve got no shortage of politicians like that.
I’d like to see a Kucinich/Nader independent ticket and equal air-time from the MSM.
If you want war, more foreclosures, more debt, extinction of the middle-class, plenty of corruption, vote Republican.
If you think that war is basically ok, the neocons have their hearts in the right places, but the program just needs to be managed well, believe that a handout to Big Pharm is a good health care plan, then vote Hillary.
If you want out of Iraq, no war on Iran, single-payer, and restoration of the Republic, then vote Kucinich/Nader.
Since when has speaking the truth been considered “quirky?” I guess American politics has degenerated to that. Mr. Kucinich speaks the truth, and people are so used to hearing BS and lie after lie that he’s considered “quirky.” That’s a pretty sad state of affairs.
Pfutrell writes—
We need to keep our despair of the Dems down to a management level, also, because we need to keep our focus on who the true “opponent” is — currently Bush, and next year, Giulliani.
So, while you may be aware that Dennis faces an uphill battle, don’t let it bring you down. Even he knows that his chances are slim, and yet he wants his ideas to be given air. They have been. This is a positive.
And while the media sucks, which it has for a while, it is up to us to guard this estate, and it is up to the hopefuls to guard this estate, and no one seems to be under any great illusion about this. Not only Dennis, but the others recognize the failure of the MSM.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Please don’t despair of this.
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Putrell your heart is in the right place, but I fear that that “light” you see at the end of the tunnel is the freight train of reality hurtling forward to smash the delusional imaginings of most of the presidential hopefuls and their corporate pay masters.
The only difference between Bush (all the Republican Party hopefuls except for upscale anarchist Ron Paul) and Bush-lite (all the Democratic Party hopefuls except for DK) is how far they will push the throttle forward to hurry our rendezvous with such destiny.
I will vote for Kucinich in the primary and write him in (if necessary) in the general election and then I will do all I can to brace for the collision of the long emergency that seems destined to follow whoever gets elected.
People need to watch this. It backs up what Dennis is saying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
Doughyden, Don’t give up ol’ Hoss, I know how you feel, but READ these posts above, and realize you are amidst THE BRIGHTEST OF THE BRIGHT, and you know the odds are long when you are among the rarest of the rare. And as one of the posters above mentions Dennis K himself, gets up ever day swimming against a ‘twisted’ current, but seems to do so cheerfully, because he has the conviction of truth and integrity in proper place and balance. What main street America has to come to see is that Mr. Kucinich, is offering to be THEIR special lobbyist FOR A CHANGE. The Bush cabal, and the establishment have good reason to fear this Gentleman, because they know A MAN OF CONVICTION, WILL CONVICT ‘EM.
Irish Bear - “Kerry saluted and “reported for duty.” Kucinich immediately rolled over like a trained dog, and instructed his delegates to wholeheartedly support Kerry without reservation.”
I’m very pleased with what you did for him the first time. I voted for him as many other people who actually read a variety of news did. What more do you want? He was ignored and belittled then too, as you well know. He did the only thing he could do given that he lost the primary. Influencing another candidate’s platform is by invitation only. What may look like caving in to “corpo-dems” to you may appear as gracious conciliation to others. I for one chose to see it as bowing out gracefully. There is already too much division in the country. It just wouldn’t have been constructive or consistent with his message of peace and diplomacy. He’s not a thug.
Thanks for this 47 minute Naomi Wolf talk which is excellent. If that doesn’t light a fire under us I don’t know what could. It should be shared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
We need to keep our despair of the Dems down to a management level, also, because we need to keep our focus on who the true “opponent” is — currently Bush, and next year, Giulliani.
There are more “True opponents” than that: any Republican senator or congressmen who still has a position in the U.S. government and any Democratic congressman or senator who supports the war and continues to do so.
And please don’t mention Giuliani; it just makes me nauseous: focus on things that are important to our side.
In the past I’ve worked extensively in the field of mental health, both in state mental institutions as well as a psychotherapist, and have no hesitation in opining that ‘George WW3 Bush’ is insane. His every word and mannerism gives it away.
He has, -for no sane reason at all- instigated death and destruction for millions of innocent men, women and children. He has unpicked *good* things, wherever he can, and replaced them with that which is wholly harmful and corrupt.
I’m reminded that the bible says, ‘By their fruits ye shall know them’, - and Bu$h’s actions are all rotten fruits which have caused irreparable harm to a wide swathe of humanity.
He and his barbarian crew have lied to, cheated, and murdered ordinary, innocent, defenceless people at every turn. And certainly, anyone who is crazy enough to believe in that warped evan-jello ‘Rupture’ garbage is right off their heads, as it has absolutely no basis in any fact…
The only glint of hope in this dire scenario could lay in the old adage: “Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.”
Hitler was mad in the same way as Bu$h, -many believe the Nazi lunatic had been taken over by ‘dark forces’ (-call ‘em what you will) and thus set about causing maximum harm to the human race. I believe Bu$hbaby and his cretinous crew have likewise ’sold their soul to the devil’. With all that power at their disposal, they could be doing so much to HELP humanity, but they instead choose to use it at every turn to harm, not heal.
Insanity, (-deep sickness of mind and emotion) takes many forms, and those who suffer such dis-ease generally need treatment to help them through deranged and psychotic episodes. But certainly the last thing they ought be allowed to do is assume positions of power and influence, wherein they then cause incalculable damage…
… Dennis Kucinich maybe had a point when he questioned the mental health of those who supported the lunatic Bu$h into high office: — Anyone who repeatedly votes for such a transparent loony like Bu$h obviously can’t be too sane themselves!
While it is surely agreed by all that the Kucinich platform, bites, and profile are convincingly correct;
– with all that apparent insight, just how can any honest and sane citizen even countenance trying to become the criminally corrupted other party´s primary contender?
For me, Irish Bear sums up my entirely justifiable suspicions nearing certainty nicely.
You want a government of, by, and for the people?
Then realize first of all that we will have to remove the obstacles so evidently in the way by whatever means most expedient.
There is now nothing less that will suffice.
Thanks to secularanimist, starofthesea, kittyladyoregon, and others. Yes, this is another time that the CD posters outshine the media.
Have you voted if Democracy for America’s poll?
Dennis is running 2nd to a write in Gore with Obama third and everyone else way back. This is the activist vote and sentiment I believe. If Dennis is the top registered candidate DFA will ask all it’s members to work for him!
http://DemocracyforAmerica.com/VoteKucinich
Voting ends Nov 5th at midnight.
The software refuses to allow me to add the DFA link in the last message.
Go to this link to vote for Dennis.
http://DemocracyforAmerica.com/VoteKucinich
See A Psychiatrist’s Perspective
by Paul L. Minot, MD
http://www.dlmweb.com/news98.html
Where there is smoke….
Bush may be insane, ___ but he’s winning, just like Hitler did ____ up until 1942.
He’s right.
If you think so too, vote for him - http://DemocracyforAmerica.com/VoteKucinich
Dennis is right. The inmates are running the asylum! Bush is too stupid to keep his cards close to his vest. Even if his ideology wasn’t so monstrous, he’s a fool and has no business setting foreign policy. Maybe he could plead “not guilty by reason of insanity”, and go the way of John Hinckley, who’s probably saner.
A lot of us have questioned the man’s mental stability for a long time now. He seems to have a destructive side to his personality. He lives dangerously without much regard for the end ramifications of his actions! He is a snotty nosed little rich boy playing war with real people instead of toy soldiers. I don’t think he has enough moral’s to care if men are getting killed for his insane notions. He is a very self-absorbed man! He has started two wars now, one of which was totally unnecessary and is itching to start another totally unnecessary war. So you tell me?????? It looks to me like this whole administration is in dire need of a reality check! There isn’t a sane person among them to take charge of the fiasco they have created with their ignorance. How many wars do they think the American people and the rest of the World are going to allow them to start without taking drastic action???? I think right at this moment the country needs someone who knows the difference between right and wrong and will follow through on their ideas. Who has the backbone to stand up for what they believe in. I personally think Dennis is the guy who can do that. But, I am waiting to see who comes out on top! I was for Howard Dean too and he self-destructed.
Did anyone notice how they cropped the picture of Dennis? Extra, extra wide to show the flag behind him says Arab American Institute.
When I read most of these posts I think I must be living on a different planet!!! You talk about your politicians as if any of them can/will change the way the system operates. You waste precious time & mental energy living in a fantasy world.
In the U.K. it became very clear years ago that democracy had taken its last breath. It would make no difference who was in power because politicians no longer have control. The only way to stop “the system” from playing us for a bunch of fools is NOT TO VOTE.
Golddogs - “Interesting, since the Bush admin. after the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, took that as an excuse to started going through the private mental health records of ALL Americans in the last year to find out who they could take guns away from. Remember, depression=mental illness too.”
For the record, CLINICAL depression is a form of mental illness. Just having the blues is not.
Clinical depression, such as bi-polar disorder for example, means the afflicted person can flip into a rage and potentially commit violent acts while in an irrational state of mind. Clinical depression is often treated with Prozac and similar mind-altering drugs which have been linked to suicide and murder. http://www.truebooks.com/prozpref.html
Yes, mentally ill people (including those with clinical depression) should not have access to guns.
I’m sorry, Audrey, but “not voting” is going to accomplish what?
Many of the postings here are expressions of frustration and despair.
We may have to work incrementally to get to the end goal. I am suggesting to not succomb to despair upon realizing that Dennis may not get the nomination.
I think GWB has totally screwed us over so that we are also just barely clinging to our sanity. Talk about depression, it practically drips from these postings.
I stand by my earlier posting: There is a light at the end of the tunnel if ANY of the dem hopefuls get elected. They are not our opponent, it’s going to be whats-his-face on the Republican side. So let’s not completely dismiss all those on the Democrat side — they do not come close to matching Bush’s evil. Thus, we can begin the work (in 2009) of reparation and restoration.
I’m sure someone has probably mentioned this, but is it because of this question that Kucinich was asked about his UFO sighting? Or, was it merely a matter of coincidence?
Hi Audrey,
I am an old voting machine …totally addicted to it ..but I wonder, if there is still a few left in England who wonder that if you don’t like the system, that maybe the system would rather you don’t vote?
I know you can not tell if the new machines are fixed or not and if it wasn’t for the addiction who would vote…it is kinda like the lotto in a way.
But you have probably found better things that make your life happy and that is good.
Junkie Jim
I saw a UFO in Chicago mid 70’s twice.
I don’t know for sure if it was a trick bein played or real aliens or whatever.
They could be real but they sure do not want Earthlings to be able to prove that they are here. too many cell phones that take clear shots and most of what we see on TV looks fuzzy and not too convincing to me.
Jimmy Carter saw a UFO also.
We also know that the UFO fad was secretly promoted by both sides in the Cold War so that the military never had to make up any big stories about any secret aircraft or missle tested… They are ordered to say “no we did’t show anything on that sighting”….leaving the impresssion of a cover-up in every case when they are not allowed to confirm anything to the public anyway…. So the fad is very good for keeping military flights and experiments secret….
I would not put it past certain Cold War operators to create elaborate hoaxs for dangerous liberals to have to ponder (Should I tell anybody what I just saw?) to kind of boost their credibility?
Can’t prove this but since I can’t prove what I saw either, it gives the whole question a new dimention if you know what I mean.
I respect Dennis for telling us what he saw… an Unidentified Flying Object that acted weird.
Please give evidence for the assertions that “any D candidate is better than any R candidate”. Repeating it over and over doesn’t make it any more so. Why will it be better when Hillary bombs Iran instead of Bush?
The Democratic Party is complicit in war crimes. They continually vote for and fund that which you think they oppose. It’s been a year now since our last great white election hope… go back and read the promises from Pelosi, et al. How many of them did they fulfill? They roll over on the wire taps. They rolled over on everything. I oppose them just as vigorously as I oppose their right flank party. Does anyone remember the first Clinton presidency? Anyone remember his “anti-terror” legislation? Those ~500,000 Iraqi children estimated to have died due to US sanctions, illegally bombing water treatment and electricity plants, etc.? That, actually, was not Bush’s fault.
Yes, Kucinich talks a good game. I agree with a large majority of his positions. But what else has to happen before we realize it’s time to DO, not continue dreaming and talking. His alleged “building progressivism within the party” makes about as much sense to me as fighting fires from within a gang of arsonists. Einstein said something about the thinking that got us here isn’t going to get us back out. Yes, I know the magnitude of the odds that are stacked against a third party or some alternative. All the more reason to start today. Let him start a new party with Cindy.
You try and try to cajole the Corpo-Dems into something you want, but they don’t want what you want. Yet you continue to give them what they need. Why? Why is someone who talks like Kucinich able to sleep at night working for everything he claims to oppose? My heroes display personal integrity in line with their values. Kucinich professes to be a fan of Thoreau, like me. I seem to recall something from “Civil Disobedience” that says, paraphrased: even if you can’t fix the enormous wrong, or don’t think it’s your duty, it is at minimum your duty to wash your hands of it. It is your duty to not lend it practical support.
How many more times, Charlie Brown, does Lucy have to yank the football away at the last second before you finally learn?
Irish Bear - “Please give evidence for the assertions that “any D candidate is better than any R candidate”. Repeating it over and over doesn’t make it any more so.”
Irish Bear - “But what else has to happen before we realize it’s time to DO, not continue dreaming and talking.”
OK, Irish Bear, what would you have us do? And, “please give evidence” (your words) that it would be better than supporting Kucinich’s bid for the Dem nomination.
Personally, I don’t have a problem working for change both inside and outside the Democratic party.
The media would have us believe that Kucinich sees an alien in the mirror every day.
Since Kucinich’s views align with the public better than any other candidate in the race on any side –
http://home.ourfuture.org/assets/20070612_theprogressivemajority_report.pdf
– one must conclude that the media does not hold the views of the public in high esteem.
Ain’t that a shocker?
I love this moment from the debate when Kucinich explains perfectly ( one of many ) reasons why we need to impeach Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVZQK3hh0KE
Kucinich and many others are seriously questioning Bush’s mental health regarding threats of world war.
In fact, it is an embarrassment to our country that both Russia’s Putin, in characterizing Bush as “a madman wielding a knife”, and Hugo Chavez, in characterizing Bush as being “as dangerous as a monkey with a razor” are viewed throughout the world as more rational (and accurate) than our president.
Voting for the guardians of world destiny and the future prosperity of the Nations.
Hello America! During the last Presidential Elections I had the opportunity of hearing Dennis Kucinich speak on the Canadian Broadcast System. He was speaking on the Canadian networks because the American Media would not support him, and no wonder.
He is a powerful speaker and thinker. Voting for Dennis Kucinich is a vote for a guardian of destiny, the future destiny of United States of America. One of the platforms he is promoting is the establishment of a US Government Department of Peace. The first step in the right direction.
He is also very aware of the secret government of the United States. Unelected and unaccountable manipulations of the public vote by the fortunate and wealthy few (the minority) over the moral and ethical fibre of the American people. (The majority)
The truth never suffers from honest examination. Check him out for yourselves and make your own choice. His website is http://kucinich.house.gov/
Some other sites with information to make informed decisions are:
http://www.dennis4president.com/
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/13/cnna.kucinich/
And beware of the FOX; FOX news that is, the propaganda machine and official debunkers of everything true, beautiful and good. They call war good and peace evil, is it any wonder that the unelected wealthy few throughout the generations of mankind have made their way with the might of armies and the power of riches.
Paul Kemp
Member of the Canadian Action Party – Central Nova – Nova Scotia Canada
www.CAP-MP.com
www.PaulKemp.info
www.CanadianActionParty.ca
This is yet another example of how the negative stigma against millions of good people living with mental illnesses is spread through our media. The hate-filled bigots who recently protested a military funeral were referred to as “lunatics” by the media. People with mental illnesses have done a lot of wonderful things. But they face bigotry, hate crimes and prejudices because of the way ignorant people refer to anyone who exhibits bad behavior as mentally ill. Bush has no mental illness.
Europeans hate Bush, but then their news isn’t skewed or blocked like ours is. And of course, this idiot is not only insane, but stupid as well. And of course the right wing wackos think along with this nut. This ass(xxx) will destroy anything of benefit to our country before he leaves office. But Dennis will not get far as long as the media favors Hillary. Too bad, but honesty has no place in our corrupt power structures. Yet, I will still vote for Dennis who has the guts to tell it like it is.
Afterward: Has the general public noticed how much Bush now sounds like the proverbial Dictator during his speeches? He doesn’t talk like a President, but yells like a Hitler.
AGAIN THE MEDIA GETS IT UPSIDE DOWN:
“He told The Inquirer he did not believe his remarks about Bush’s mental stability were irresponsible.”
It is Bush’s remarks about WW III that are irresponsible!
Dennis Kucinich is not the only person who recognizes in Bush a man completely isolated from reality, who speaks (in tongues?) with God and who has no real conception of the damage he is doing to his country. He has never done a single thing in his life that he has completed successfully. He is incapable of comprehension of the many difficult situations he encounters. I have always considered him to be a stupid man, but that would not be much different from some before him, but insanity in presidents is rare. Add to this the fact that Cheney plays on his insanity for his own grandizement and you have a situation that could cause international warfare which would be the last war this planet sees for a thousand years. Cheney and Bush are Dr. Strangelove and Nero in a deplorable combination which must be stopped, and the sooner the better. In the meantime, good luck to all of you and my prayers go with you if you are fifty or younger. Those of us in our very late years consider ourselves lucky at the probability of dying before we see our flag flying nowhere in the world.