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Too Soon to Declare Victory
The origins of the Libyan transition emerged very much in the context of the Arab Spring – a popular uprising against a brutal dictatorship. But unlike others in the neighborhood – Egypt and Tunisia especially, but also Bahrain, and even Syria – Libyans quickly took up arms on a large scale to challenge the regime's assault. That initial decision soon led to calls for a Western no-fly zone, and quickly to the welcoming of direct US/NATO/Qatari military intervention based on the UN resolution's "all necessary measures" language.
Despite the resolution's focus on protecting civilians, it was U.S., European, and NATO officials who made the actual decisions about the use of force – and quickly the NATO planes soon began what one Al Jazeera reporter described as "openly functioning as the air force of the opposition army." Particularly in these last few days of fast-moving gains by the opposition, air power played a disproportionately important role. That means that the ability of opposition forces to move into Tripoli, take control of at least parts of the capital so quickly, and potentially accede to power, was dependent on NATO.
The circumstances are different from other recent overthrows of Arab tyrants. The people visible overnight, celebrating in Tripoli's Green Square (renamed Martyrs Square by the opposition) were overwhelmingly armed rebels, largely coming into Tripoli from the mountains to the south. Unlike the celebrations in Tahrir Square in Egypt and other similar venues, there were virtually no women except for reporters. Many local residents had already fled the city, most others remained indoors, as violence continued to flare across Tripoli. Few were visible to greet the rebel forces as they entered the city. This may have been the continuing uncertainty of conditions in the city, but it also may reflect ambivalence or perhaps even stronger unease about the opposition forces among Tripoli's population, which accounts for about a third of Libya's people.
In Benghazi, the rebel capital in eastern Libya, Sunday’s celebrations went on all night. By mid-day Monday the head of Libya’s Transitional National Council, the rebel leadership already recognized by the United States and numerous other countries as the rightful government of Libya, spoke at a press conference, congratulating the people of Tripoli and in effect claiming the expanding control by anti-Qaddafi forces as the achievement of the TNC.
But the legitimacy of the TNC remains contested. It is a widely diverse, self-selected group already facing significant and sometimes lethal division within its ranks. It remains unclear how much popular support there was for the TNC’s decision to ask for foreign military intervention. Even now, as Patrick Cockburn wrote in The Independent, the “Transitional National Council (TNC) in Benghazi is now recognized by more than 30 foreign governments, including the U.S. and Britain, as the government of Libya. But it is by no means clear that it is recognized as such by the rebel militiamen who are in the process of seizing the capital. The rebel fighters in Misrata, who fought so long to defend their city, say privately that they have no intention of obeying orders from the TNC.” Certainly it is military and security exigencies that have resulted in Tripoli not being represented in the Council, but it also remains uncertain whether the TNC’s leadership is recognized in the capital or not. It remains too soon to say whether the TNC will show itself willing to broaden out to embrace Libyans so far excluded.
The success of Libya's uprising will have a great deal to do with the willingness of its leadership to break its dependency on the United States and NATO. In what might or might not be a positive sign in that direction, TNC officials have said they intend to call for United Nations assistance in holding new elections within eight months of taking power. But more immediately, if the United States and European countries turn over the billions in frozen Libyan assets directly to the TNC, the question of the breadth of its representation and its legitimacy become even more crucial. Will the TNC, eager to claim the billions of oil money being held by European and U.S. banks, demand that NATO and the United States pull back and allow Libya to sort out its own problems and develop its own trajectory for an independent future? During a Monday press conference, the president of the TNC, Mustafa Abdul Jalil, thanked the international community as a whole but singled out those countries that had been especially supportive of the TNC; the implication was unmistakable that those countries, presumably the United States, other NATO members, and Qatar (whose special forces had trained the TNC’s “Tripoli Brigade”) could expect closer ties and privileged access to Libyan resources in the future.
That, more than anything else, will determine whether a "new Libya" has a chance of becoming a truly new, unified and sovereign Libya, or whether it just moves from control by a small family-based autocracy to control by outside Western forces more interested in maintaining privileged access to Libya's oil and strategic location than in the human and national rights of Libya's people.
The Libyan uprising began as part of the Arab Spring, with an effort to depose one more Arab dictator. Current developments are moving towards that goal. But the complications of the Libyan Summer, and the consequences of the militarization of its struggle, leave unanswered the question of whether events so far are ultimately a victory for the Libyan people, or for NATO. Given recent models of U.S. and NATO involvement in overthrowing dictatorships, we don't have a lot of examples of how it can be both.
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Show All"But it is by no means clear that it is recognized as such by the rebel militiamen who are in the process of seizing the capital. The rebel fighters in Misrata, who fought so long to defend their city, say privately that they have no intention of obeying orders from the TNC"
Well they better get over it, or face what Gaddafi is facing.
" Mustafa Abdul Jalil, thanked the international community as a whole but singled out those countries that had been especially supportive of the TNC; the implication was unmistakable that those countries, presumably the United States, other NATO members, and Qatar (whose special forces had trained the TNC’s “Tripoli Brigade”) could expect closer ties and privileged access to Libyan resources in the future."
It would appear there's a high price to pay for "protection" and support from the west in this "brave new" Libya.
So, Phyllis, after having seen hundreds of thousands of people killed and millions more have their lives destroyed in wars based entirely on lies in Iraq and Afghanistan...
AND having watched this President completely and seamlessly carry on the traditions of his neoliberal fascist forbears...
HOW could you even entertain notions that this Libyan "war" was nothing more than the murder of innocent people for the theft of their resources by the United States and NATO?
Too soon to declare victory?
VICTORY?!! VICTORY?!!
The fascists declared victory the minute they flew their first sortie.
exactly right
note to the thought police here at common dreams - thanks for deleting my post - it only took some precious moments of my life to write
a second to delete
you guys are like the little fuckers in nebraska who guide the drones killing the arabs
push a button and kill a thought
and i'm tired of the thought police
you'll never see me here again
keep your finger on the trigger though - never know when a turd is needed to kill a thought
Wild as any freedom loving racist
I applaud the actions of the chief
Tell me now oh beautiful and spacious
Am I in trouble with the Jazz police?
ta ta
Right on the money, poly.
FUKUS (=France, UK, and US) will never let go of this pot of gold. The new Libyan "leadership" already knows that. It also knows that it will be their eventual undoing. They are a bunch of imported masochists whose play on the world stage will be short. Libya is an artificial construct of "Cyrenaica" in the East and "Tripolitania" in the West. Only dictators can hold this miscreant together. Kadaffi was an antique dictator who will be replaced by a modern one which may actually be a congeries of foreign powers called FUKUS.
Blatant Revisionist History of the most vile type.
What else do you expect from an inmate of a "Policy Institute", establishments that have sprouted like so many mushrooms on the fertile soil of US ignorance/arrogance/know-it-all? These are breeding places of what is known as "group thinking" the fundamentals of which the inmates learned in college. "Policy Institutes" also need funding. Every one has staked out its own funding public. Writing anything that might upset the funding clan is a no-no. That is true for progressive as well as conservative "Policy Institutes". Get one from each of these brands into a TV discussion and I can predict with absolute certainty what each will say. Have you noticed that you can receive the "talking points" of Ms. Bennis by clicking on "here"? I rest my case with that revealing item.
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Wouldn't it be great if they had to ASK first?
FREE AMERICA
REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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mschlee, an Empire never asks first ---- this Empire uses guile to hide itself and never even admit that it exists.
Since 9/11 it is commonly said that, "everything has changed".
Yes, "We are all rubes now"
It is simply amazing that still no major media coverage (including the vaunted NYT) has related this (Libya and other) African/Middle East wars to Thomas Barnett's 2006 Naval War College book and strategy, "The Pentagon's New Map", which promulgated the current plan of the global corporate/financial/militarist Empire controlling our former country, to capture the entire 5000 miles swath of "GAP" countries from Mauritania to the Chinese boarder.
There remains no substantial recognition that our former country (and others like U.K. Israel et al) has been captured by a disguised global corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE, which hides behind the facade of its TWO-Party modernized "Vichy" sham of faux-democratic government ---- just as the occupying Nazi Empire hid behind the far simpler single-party "Vichy" regime.
'Globalization' is simply the branded and polite marketing term for global EMPIRE!
This disguised global empire is the causal cancerous tumor that creates all 'symptom problems' like wars, economic oppression, massive inequality, environmental destruction, and all other 'issues' that are used to divide and distract resistance from attacking the core of the Empire.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Liberty & democracy
over
violent
empire
New America People's Party 2012 -- our last change against the 'Globalism' that is the post nation-state global empire
Hey CD -- why is there no way to flag an article? What a pile of crap.
We have always loved dictators who serve our "interests" and oppose dictators that don't. Who will win the mad scramble for Libya's oil ???
I believe that Phyllis Bennis knows full well how all this will turn out, but instead of admitting the sad truth about who controls this US and NATO made counter revolution operation, she actually tries to put a 'positive' spin on events.
'The success of Libya's uprising will have a great deal to do with the willingness of its leadership to break its dependency on the United States and NATO.'
Phyllis has it all wrong though. The US created 'leadership' is not independent of its US and NATO sponsors at all and never can be. And it is way too late to try to change these things. The US manipulated the legitimate frustration of the Libyan people with Gaddafi and appears to have got away with it totally, so Libyan dissidents will now find it much harder to break from the US than it was ever to ally themselves with the US and break from Gaddafi.
There are disturbing rumors that the TNC plan to introduce Sharia law and an Islamic state. This would be especially bad news for the women of Libya, and the population as a whole since they would have simply replaced one form of repression for another. The Arab Spring would have achieved nothing.
Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Bahrain, and Afghanistan have Sharia law. What was your point again?
"In what might or might not be a positive sign in that direction, TNC officials have said they intend to call for United Nations assistance in holding new elections within eight months of taking power". If a vote in the UN Security Council is needed my prediction is: several "no's".
I'm sure the election will turn out just fine -- like in Haiti...
I'm sure the election will turn out just fine-- like in the USA.
I'm sure the election will turn out just fine - like in Germany 1933.
Hey they just pulled down a statue, we should all celebrate while we televise the looting of a nation which once provided national free health care, public education, women's rights and housing.
Odd that people so much better off than those in the U.S. would be dissatisfied with the leader who provided that free health care, education, women's rights, and housing. I suppose people are just ingrates by nature.
"Too Soon to Declare Victory"
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I at least try to take headlines with a strong dose of salt, for two reasons: 1) the author of the piece rarely writes the headline; they're written by headline editors or other third parties who often either clumsily or purposely impart inaccurate and misleading spin, and 2) the headline may be intended to convey irony or facetiousness that gets lost in the translation.
So I thought, or hoped, that the responsible party just forgot to put ironic quotes (called "scare quotes" these days, for some reason) around the word "victory".
But I agree with the seemingly-unanimous verdict of previous commenters that this analysis is indeed flawed, even abysmal.
While attempting some distance and cautionary observations, Bennis decidedly perpetuates the begged question that events in Libya are generally congruent with the area's "popular uprising[s] against a brutal dictatorship" constituting the "Arab Spring".
But discerning observers have refused from the beginning to add Libya to Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, and Bahrain in the Arab Spring pea pod.
For instance, even though I freely admit knowing next to nothing about Libya, I was struck early on by the exceptional appearance of armed militias-- one of these things is not like the others, I realized.
After doing a modicum of investigation, it became obvious that, given Libya's festering internal and tribal conflicts, this was more of a opportunistic civil war than a broad-based mass popular uprising.
And the unique response of the Western hegemony-- the Amerikan Imperium, European allies, NATO, the UN-- confirmed that this was no wholesome, spontaneous "popular uprising" against a sociopathic tyrant as the corporate mass-media and progressive liberal interventionists insisted.
One need go no further than to point out that none of the OTHER "brutal dictatorships" inspired a UN resolution under the flimsy pretext of "humanitarian intervention", and mission creep providing massive overt and covert assistance to the "rebels" beneath the decorous figleaf of establishing a "no-fly zone" to prevent rumored, speculative, and hypothetical civilian massacres.
In short, the Libyan debacle stinks to high heaven, and this cautiously congratulatory analysis is like a heavy spray of Febreze wafting over the fundamental disconnects from the "Arab Spring" model.
Notwithstanding that Juan Cole and a beleaguered handful of liberal interventionist hawks are indeed looking forward to a righteous Victory Dance, and will polish the floor with stern reminders that regardless of whatever little irregularities may have brought it about, deposing a bera, bera Bad Man like Qaddafi ought to give all decent human rights advocates everywhere cause for celebration.
"Obedient Servant"
Yes, Something is VERY rotten in the Febreze factory.
First off, we need only look at which nations have rushed to endorse the so-called Transitional National Council. France, Germany, The U.S., the United Kingdom, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey,...(the last named still hoping for inclusion in the E.U.).
Then, look at some of the "leaders" of the TNC, especially Mahmoud Jebril (Privatize and liberalize), Khalifa Hifter (Virginia resident/CIA operative?), and Mustafa Abdul Jalil (Sharia lawyer?).
Then, realize the TNC is based in Washington, D.C.
It's a small world.
Ms Bennis assumes [as does many on the so-called liberal 'left'] that initially the Libyan up-rising fits neatly into the so-called Arab Spring Tunisian / Egyptian model... Most of these folks [IE: Ms Bennis] act like they never heard of 'Op Southern Storm' spear-headed by France & the UK [implies NATO - implies the US] which was a war-games scenario which was a near perfect prelude to this FUK-US NATO assault on Libya [including UN Res 1973] back in Nov 2010 - meaning the FUK-US NATO group have likely been planning their attack on Libya since at-least Nov 2010 [NOTE: The fact that this push came from the direction of the Tunisian border along w the fact that the Tunisian so-called 'democracy' movement's interim Gov't recognized the Al-CIAeda / King Idris inspired Rebel as Libya's legitimate Gov't a few days BEFORE their push into Tripoli - brings into question whether there was more than meets the eye in Tunisian up-rising as well]!!! And too many so-called 'progressives' like Ms Bennis act like they haven't heard that FUK-US NATO had special forces operating on the ground in Libya WEEKS BEFORE THEIR 'fig-leaf' authorization of UN Res 1973! Thus this was likely NEVER a true non-violent up-rising ala Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, etc- but an ARMED REVOLT almost from the GET-GO! Nor did she critique these Al-CIAeda / King Idris inspired rebels - comprised of Al-Qeada inspired Islamic militants, Old King Idris Monarchists [the rebel flag is modeled after King Idris' old colors & King Idris' son sits on the rebel council], CIA assets, ex-Khadaffi opportunistic defectors, & a bunch of kids caught up in the hype. This is NOT a GOOD recipe for a TRUE people's freedom & democracy movement!
AND- CFR Chairman Rich Haass' recent call for boots on the ground NOW in Libya- indicates that the power elites know that either this fight ain't over yet [IE:Khadaffi ain't quite done in yet] &/or their Al-CIAeda / King Idris inspired rebels can NOT be RELIED Upon to restore 'Stability' [IE: A suitable 'orderly' environment for BUSINESS] in Libya. In fact this mix-mash group will probably degenerate into a violent clash & grabs for power amongst themselves!
Why do I get the feeling I'm about to see Obama standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier with a big banner behind him that says "Mission Accomplished"?
Ha-ha. - Just an old script showing through the palimpsest...
" “When Western powers look at the region, they talk about humanity and democracy, but they’re thinking about oil,” reveals Greg Muttitt, War on Want campaigns and policy director." (Source: RT.com)
Now watch for these developments:
1. Africom establishes base in Libya,
2. Living standard in Libya on average goes down while rich-poor gap widens. Plus probably
3. Everything bad in Libya, including war damage and death, gets blamed on Qaddafi.
So what will the West do about crushing democracy in Bahrain? Besides all it can do to continue tyrany...
"So what will the West do about crushing democracy in Bahrain?"
The West will continue to crush democracy in Bahrain, for starters.
The first sentence of this article -- "The origins of the Libyan transition emerged very much in the context of the Arab Spring – a popular uprising against a brutal dictatorship" -- is a complete lie. As a number of people pointed out at globalresearch.ca, the Libyan "uprising" was fabricated by outside intelligence services.
Before FUKUS attacked (I do like that acronym, Crowsnest), Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa. Now they will have they highest GINI score in Africa (inequality score).
Bull crap. The "revolution" was subsidized and supported by oil interests from day one, and that includes the U.S., France and NATO. Now, all that is left is to distribute the sp(oil)s to the victorious national forces from NATO and install an obedient puppet who supports the capitalist society that will impoverish that sad nation. What a pity that the people of Libya don't understand they have lost their only protector from the world-wide Fascist powers.
Why waste a perfectly good revolution by setting up another "representative" government?
Direct democracy
Thank you so many posters! I second your opinion: this for-pay malarkey is a royal pain.
Not that anyone cares, but I got a feelin Gadhafi is in a posh room at the hotel were the reporters are held hostage.
What safer place can he be than where is son is held up and the biggest stronghold left of his small forces?
I don't think he would be hiding in a tunnel. But it is weird they are still looking for him in the compound when there was supposed to be a zone of his control from the compound to the posh Hotel.
With the hostages would be his best shot for a while.
Jim, who knows where your NATO and Pentagon troops will eventually catch the man who resisted them?
I said I had a "feelin" about this and a little later a convoy with an Armored limo that was thought to be carrying the Gad Man was spotted and the hostages were suddenly released.
Maybe I wasn't the only one to "have a feelin".
And If NATO were "my troops", pinchyway or whatever your real name is, we could end the wars.
I think this is a good analysis by Phyllis Bennis. However, having lived in Libya for many years, I have very mixed feelings about the revolution there. It is true that the overthrow of the Gaddafi government opens the door to possible democracy and better conditions for Libyans, but there is a great deal of uncertainty at this point too.