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Looting Frenzies: Thinking about the Federal Reserve while Nursing a Cheap Beer
Hey, let’s go into McGlinchey’s, the cheapest bar in Center City. When I first entered this place in 1982, I was only 18, so to make myself look somewhat legal, I wore an old man jacket, bought at a thrift store for 2 bucks. Inside, I was thrilled to discover that a draft of Rolling Rock was only 50 cents, and a hotdog 25. Now they are $1.25 and 75 cents, respectively. This low life bar, my kind, is still dirt cheap, but that’s inflation for you.
Inflation is your dollars deflating. It’s your money going down, down, down, depreciating as the Federal Reserve injects more bucks into our banking system. And since the biggest banks own the Federal Reserve, the Fed is the banking system. Each time these banks give cash to themselves to be lent to you at interest, your dollars become a bit more worthless.
Though perceived by most Americans as a governmental agency, even the Federal Reserve admits that it is “an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.” As “an independent entity,” the Fed does not suffer from Presidential control or Congressional oversight. Though its Board of Governors is appointed by the President of the United States, each of its seven members serves for 14 years [!], with only one member replaced every two years. Out of the limelight, these shady gentlemen are more enduring than all of our Presidents, Senators and Congressmen, and certainly more powerful, since they represent banks that bankroll all of our politicians, who are their abject servants. The Fed can also inflate, deflate, strangle, rape or bleed dry the global economy. With such leverage, it does not care that a 2011 Congressional audit, the first ever, managed to discover that in less than three years the Fed lent $16.1 trillion to Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Bank of America, as well as banks in the U.K., Germany, Switzerland, France and Belgium. This astronomical sum is greater than our national debt or even the GDP, so where in hell or Foggy Bottom did it come from? Nowhere. From thin air. With Godlike power, the Fed can just conjure up cash, and thus just about everything else, into being. Here a mansion, there a yacht, and now, with a few keyboard strokes, a brand new slave, or many, many slaves!
Subconsciously thinking, Daddy, send us money, the infantile sees each gross increase in the money supply as dollars sloshing through the system, benefiting everyone, but if quantitative easing were a magic bullet, Weimar and Zimbabwe would be success stories. If we could just monetize our way out of trouble, then why not pay all of our debts right now with newly minted cash, and bypass the painful interest payments? Why not revive this economy by sending each citizen a huge check? Not 600 piddly bucks, like Bush did, but a billion dollars for each man, woman, child and dog? It can’t be done because our creditors aren’t dummies. As Vladimir Putin said about us, “They are living like parasites off the global economy and their monopoly of the dollar.” So Russia, China, Japan, Brazil and our many other creditors are neither reassured nor amused when Allan Greenspan explained that “the U.S. can pay any debt that it has because we can always print money to do that.”
The Federal Reserve used to tell us how many dollars were in circulation, but in March of 2006, it stopped. A sane man would deduce that it wanted to hide how much inflation it was generating, but, no, this sudden opacity was merely a cost cutting measure, so explained the Fed, the profligate, money pumping Fed.
To grasp immediately how much your dollar has depreciated, look no further than the price of gold. In 1982, an ounce was less than $500. Now it has breached $1,800. Surging gold price also indicates that people are losing faith in their economic, political and social system, and that they fear the immediate future. When gold shoots up, this house is coming down. Wander into any Vietnamese or Cambodian neighborhood, you’ll see an inordinate number of jewelry stores selling gold. People who have been traumatized by war and dictatorship don’t trust in banks or even money, but only gold to help them survive any societal upheaval.
So if the dollar is sinking, why accumulate it? First off, foreign governments must have dollars to buy oil, since no country can sell petroleum for anything but the dollar. The only renegades to this rule are Iran and Venezuela. Accepting Chinese yuans for oil, they have constantly been threatened by Washington. If euros, yens, yuans or rubles were generally accepted for oil, the United States would quickly become irrelevant and no one would have to send us real products for our increasingly worthless paper.
This petro dollar arrangement is enforced by the U.S. military. As Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi have found out, America will rain bombs on your people’s heads if you try to escape from this racket. Gaddafi wanted to nationalize Libya’s oil fields. He also proposed a common currency for Africa. In their trade with each other, African countries could then be free from the tyranny of the dollar, but such insolence could not go unpunished. America will hold a gun to your head to make sure you go on biting its bucks.
Buy this, buy that, screw me, or rather, make love to my mirage. (photo: Michael Holden)Making money on interest, banks generate debt for you and me, and for the government itself. This system is buoyed up from us drowning, and to keep us spending beyond our means, it must make us delirious with wants. Hence, this nonstop seduction everywhere you look. Don’t think or reflect. Lust. In 1982, there was only one television in McGlinchey’s. Now, there are four. As music blares, the unceasing come-ons flicker above our heads. Buy this, buy that, screw me, or rather, make love to my mirage.
Traditional virtues such as prudence and self control have been jettisoned, to be replaced by an insatiable appetite that breeds frustration, boredom, numbness and violence. In 2009, five blocks from here, a flash mob attacked a 56-year-old man riding home from work. They beat him unconscious and stole his credit cards. One of the perpetrators then bought over $5,000 of Ralph Lauren, Giorgio Armani and other high-end merchandises. He had the loot delivered to his front door, so that’s how twenty-one-year-old Stephen Lyde was caught. Though poor and obviously inexperienced with a credit card, Lyde was lusting after all the finer things possessed by those at the very top, and just like many of them, he was willing to commit violence. Unlike white collar crooks, however, Lyde pounced on his victim directly. If America were to start yet another war, how many stockholders would rejoice?
Our banking system makes money out of nothing, lends us cash that it doesn’t even have, and with Washington as its protector and enforcer, ensures that what we own is worth less and less, while we must work more and more to make payment after unending payment, with compounding interest, penalties, fees and whatever else it feels like tagging on at the end. The Federal Reserve, then, is not an institution with “public purposes and private aspects,” but exactly the opposite. Like our federal government itself, it is a cartel with ruthless, private objectives hidden behind a public façade.
The Fed has private purposes and public aspects, and as long as this parasite controls our wallets and government, you can count on more wars, bankruptcies, foreclosures, increasingly severe inflation and looting frenzies of every kind.
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Show All"The Fed has private purposes and public aspects, and as long as this parasite controls our wallets and government, you can count on more wars, bankruptcies, foreclosures, increasingly severe inflation and looting frenzies of every kind."
Agreed, but - as you pointed out - we must remember that the real power that needs to be smashed/destroyed is the cabal BEHIND the Federal Reserve.
If we only wish for the end of the Federal Reserve, the bankers behind it will simply close it up and put forth a new engine by which they can steal our money and hide behind.
Look what's happening in Europe.
Even though, the ECB is completely operating without mandate just yesterday Merkel and Sarkozy were finishing off an agreement that would create a supra-sovreign entity, all for saving the French and German banks.
An entity whose dictates would supersede the laws of any EU nation.
Nice, huh?
So while this warning is great, we must go after the real targets.
Those BEHIND the Federal Reserve. They are some of humanity's truest enemies.
Who are they?
They are us. We are them.
they are not us and we are not them
True, I suppose, but when they fall, they fall on us.
they don't fall - they drop shit on us
not the same thing.........
Well, that's what they're doing now. I'm talking about that inevitable point in the not-too-distant future where civilization collapses, they fall, and they take us down with them.
that's why right & left need to come together as a supermajority and circumvent the entire political seesaw. our strength is in our numbers. that's it. electing independents in every single state race that are beholden to the people and country only. enacting a separation of commerce and state as definitive as that of church... and i don't care if Sanders or Warren don't want to run. by the time we get our sh*t together, they will. the people should select the leaders they trust to run, not the other way around.
this is a pivotal time; as long as we're willing to reach out beyond the choir to spread truth, the emperors clothes will fall.
Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
Published 1976
the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914.
N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
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| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
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| / Lord Airlie
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| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
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Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
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| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
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Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
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Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
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Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
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| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
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| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
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James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
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Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
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J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
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James Stillman
William Rockefeller
Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
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George F. Baker
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html
Thanks for laying that out, and thanks also for the link.
Elizabeth,
I left out the most important replied on "Sanders Says He Doesn't Know Who Would Step Up to Primary Obama.” It took time to prepared a readable draft and forgot to post it. I hope you read this message.
This is the 2nd times you came to my support. My deep and sincere appreciation. After the above debacle, I don't think it is worth spending my time here. I might be back as the Presidential election draw nearer. Meanwhile, I will try not to lurk! Thanks again and best wishes.
I'm not sure what posts you're talking about, but you're welcome. I've always appreciated your point of view. I'm dreading the Presidential crap cranking up, so if you come back for it, I may well be gone--at least not bothering with the articles that deal with that particular nonsense. Best wishes as well.
Look up the guest list for the latest Bilderberg meeting--that will be a good starting point.
"This petro dollar arrangement is enforced by the U.S. military."
Killing babies so rich Americans and Europeans can enjoy all the luxuries of life. We have entered a unique stage in human history when a handful of people control the world's economic system, to the detriment of the vast majority of people. We can complain in America about lack of jobs and falling real estate values, but in much of the world they have to worry about US bombs and missiles slaughtering their families during the night. The Libyans found out, but millions of other innocent people have learned the same lesson over the last 50 years.
We are led by blood thirsty sociopaths in business suits, with polished demeanors, rational seeming talk, and ready smiles.
It is ironic is it not, that the "greatest generation" fought and won a war to end fascism and the victory parade was the grand triumphal march of fascism. So many lies in the service of the State: "we must strike now and with deliberate force, lest our enemies percieve that we are weak." The only people that believe that muck are brainwashed Amerikans - the rest of the world knows that when our sabres get a -rattlin' that they'd best start hoarding food and building bomb shelters.
linh touches on many crucial points in this essay - some of which have gone over the heads of the average american
1. linh mentions that 16 trillion dollars went to other banks in this and other countries via the back door - secretly
today that figure is 23 trillion
2. the money as linh notes - is printed from nothing - these banks don't have any money. in fact though, mostly they don't even bother to print it anymore - it is just a digital blip on a digital spread sheet
what a scam
as gerald celente, from trends research says - the money is not worth the digital paper its not printed on
everyone should be on his site daily.......
http://www.trendsresearch.com/
the banks rack up enough debt to choke themselves and then get the government - whom they own through the legal bribery known as campaign contributions - to agree to accept a debt from them - which does not exist, representing money they do not have - and "we" the taxpayers get stuck owing 23 trillion interest bearing dollars which we never saw, never benefited from
well fuck me!!!!!!
what can a sane person say about this machiavellian nightmare
Most people still regard the Federal Reserve as an institution of elected government that is established along the lines of Constitutional beatitudes
If you tell a big enough lie, most people will believe it.
only thing i can say is med me too. please.
what i don't understand is how they got away with making the banks whole, through both the people and then the Fed that profited wildly over the firesales, but didn't use any of that ginormous money pile to grant low interest loans to the actual people, who were drowning. are still drowning.
what if we found a way to starve them out? if the people withdrew their money, slowly but surely, from every major bank and reinvested it into community banks? banks backed by the gov, run by communities, that answer to the people & are incentivized to releverage by reinvesting in their own communities? in creating local jobs?
as i see it, We are the only way jobs will ever come back....ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock
...GENERAL STRIKE...!!!
Linh Dinh's article is right to the point. It's Great!
The only way we can fight the banks, is to empower people around the world, to elect people who represent them and not the banks.
To get off the grid and grow local food, and not depend on oil for everything. Not depend on the banks... live simply.
we just need to create our own grid. it's not like we don't have the technology, or the means. it's just a matter of coming together. empowering the people and local farmers once again.
This article is such a mixture of truth and misinformation it is hard to make sense out of it.
1. Inflation is not a problem for the US dollar. The Chinese yuan is inflating much more rapidly.
2. The money supply is not increasing. Perhaps the author was thinking of QE--which opens lines of credit so that the Fed can buy various things--including US debt. There is no evidence that QE is causing inflation. Inflation is occurring because of resource depletion--particularly petroleum.
3. Issuing credit by the central bank at near zero percent interest is not a bad thing for the economy. In fact, it can help "prime the pump" for economic expansion. If the Fed offered to buy back student loans--having students pay only interest on the principal--a whole new stimulus to the economy could begin.
4. Creditors world-wide are not that anxious to dump the dollar for petroleum purchases. Other currencies have problems, too--especially the euro. You have to look at the weakness of the dollar in relation to all of the world's currencies. Most of them have the same problems we have.
5. Asians and those from the Middle East imagine gold is a safe haven for their assets, but it really isn't. Gold's value fluctuates as all commodities do. Those buying gold now at inflated prices will likely find the value will have slipped considerably in years to come.
I agree with Dinh that the Fed is screwing us by requiring the US treasury to pay interest on the debt the Fed purchases. I would support a true central bank rather than the cobbled together private-public mess we have now. Furthermore, some loans--those supporting education and public infrastructure--should have near zero percent interest rates. We should not be supporting bankers with investments in human beings.
hey everyone - what a treat
ben bernanke is now posting on common dreams
welcome to the scrum ben
ps. linh's right - you're wrong
So, how about an argument instead of a pronouncement?
I'm still sailing ocean liners through the non sequitur between the two sentences of your first numbered point. :-)
they don't call him helicopter ben for nothing
ben: if you need an argument re-read the article - it pretty straight forward
Oh no! Someone made a counter point that may require me to rethink my initial stance! Oh noes!! Let's be rude and ridicule the person that made the counter point so I don't have to form my own opinion based on two possibly conflicting view points! Which would expose my lack of knowledge and unwillingness to research my original stance!
I love CD Posters :)
The Lefts version of the Far Right.
Any who, having a counter point is good. Helps you to think and to form an educated opinion. Agree or not.
Dinh claims inflation is a big problem for the US dollar. It isn't. The only reason for inflation is the rise in oil prices, a phenomenon largely fueled by supply and demand. The yuan does have a higher rate of inflation than the dollar, perhaps because the Chinese economy is overheating. Switching from the dollar to the yuan would not be a wise move, therefore. Non sequitur? The two things do not follow one from another but they do relate to the same topic: the health of the dollar vs. other currencies. That, in part, was what Dinh was talking about--no?
thanks for the update ben
Unfortunately the rise in oil prices is not so much due to supply and demand. At the moment there is plenty of supply. The dirty little secret is.....(and the heads of the oil companies testified to this before Congress a few weeks ago)........30% to 40% of the rise in oil prices is due to SPECULATION. The billionaires just bidding up the price to make more money on each trade. Worse yet, they are also doing this with food commodities.
So we're back to the same crooks.
drosera doesn't really disagree with Linh Dinh's article. All those points are (more or less) true, but irrelevant. The relevant issue is in the final paragraph: "I agree with Dinh that the Fed is screwing us " - not only by charging interest on US funds, but by giving the private banks control over the whole economy.
The most obvious evidence of that evil is that finance, a completely unproductive business, now accounts for at least 40% of the economy, up from maybe 10% in the 70's.
It isn't only the Fed that should be abolished; it's Wall Street. A decentralized, vastly smaller financial industry would be far more democratic (small d) and nurture a more productive, more equal society.
How to get there? Aye, there's the rub. But CD does not allow us to mention real alternatives, except by indirection.
I agree with you that the financial sector should not be the basis for a healthy economy. After all, banks make money through grabbing interest and that is not creating wealth at all--not in the sense that making a new Ford creates wealth. Worthwhile projects should be financed at near-zero percent interest (some money has to go to service the debt). As far as paying back the principal on debt, I hardly see the point. As bonds come due, the central bank redeems them as new lines of credit in the accounts of bond purchasers. We can go on doing that forever.
exactly. Jefferson would be so proud...
"The most obvious evidence of that evil is that finance, a completely unproductive business, now accounts for at least 40% of the economy, up from maybe 10% in the 70's."
And, this is extremely inflationary.
Linh Dinh for president in 2012.
[So what if he was born outside the US? "The Constitution is only a piece of paper." - George W Bush.]
This guy makes more sense than almost anybody else I read these days.
What is missed is the fact that this grand scam of the banksters was not only meant to make them the rich owner/operators of empire, it was aimed at the destruction of the USA's creative/productive capabilities. It was meant to REMOVE from history the idea that mere commoners can come together, in political union, to work for their own common good/general welfare, without needing the "protection racket" of imperious owner/rulers. It was meant to addict us to TRADE (of meaningless dollars for real goods made elsewhere), instead of collective self-support,through OUR OWN agriculture & manufacturing industries. We've forgotten that we were supposed to see if 300 million people can support ourselves from 3,000,000+ square miles of the best real estate on this Earth (with plenty of surplus to aid those less fortunate). In effect, this scam is an act of treason and war upon the people of the U.S., and of the entire world (by removing its' primary guardian; post WWII U.S. military/agricultural/industrial might). This is the other side (the one that lost out ) of the story. It too, was deleted effectively from the group memory.
once we let commerce dictate our course, nothing but profit mattered.
it is supposed to be treason to give our enemies "aid and comfort"; let alone exclusive deals on all things. and yet...we are tied at the bellybutton to China, the only communist superpower left in existence. and the single largest profiteer, the Fed, continues to ignore the people and overextend the country. and our people are excluded from jobs or producing from their own land.
"Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right."
—Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785
The authoritarian imperialists that we fought against in World War II just sort of faded from sight and re-grouped. Check on the actions of Prescott Bush (yes, THAT Bush) and his buddies during World War II...Things like being called before the Senate for war profiteering and attempting to overthrow the government. We have General Smedley Butler to thank for putting an end to that attempt. (Yes, that's his real name.)
Yes, I know about that. The real architects of the fascism/naziism movement resided in wallstreet and city-of-london (intended to dismantle their PREVIOUS soviet/communist movement to get rid of a rival dynasty & faithful ally to the U.S. Their main objective, since our revolution, has been to destroy U. S. and Russia). They escaped the Nuremburg trials, to "live to fight another day". They are what we contend with now.
coldponder
and soon we'll become like India: When an old man decided to go on a hunger strike against pervasive corruption in that country, the authorities arrested him (for his own good, of course).
The Right of Resistance
James Bovard is the author of Freedom in Chains: The Rise of the State and the Demise of the Citizen (St. Martin’s Press).
"Many politicians talk as if citizens were obliged both to revere and obey their government. But there are few things more dangerous than swallowing the notion that government is entitled to boundless obedience from the people under its power. Throughout history, governments have occasionally overstepped the bounds of their legitimate power. What should be done when government betrays its promises?"
... a conversation from 2000....
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-right-of-resistance/
A move away from a privately administered Fed would be facilitated by patriotic framing: Instead of approaching the issue as a radical departure, the American public needs to be reminded that this would be a move *back* to a modernized incarnation of what was known as 'The American System', i.e. the issuing of 'sovereign credit', or credit issued by the national government, rather than the issuing of 'debt', borrowed from the private banking system.
"Henry Clay's "American System", devised in the burst of nationalism that followed the War of 1812, remains one of the most historically significant examples of a government-sponsored program to harmonize and balance the nation's agriculture, commerce, and industry. This "System" consisted of three mutually reenforcing parts: a tariff to protect and promote American industry; a national bank to foster commerce; and federal subsidies for roads, canals, and other "internal improvements" to develop profitable markets for agriculture. Funds for these subsidies would be obtained from tariffs and sales of public lands. Clay argued that a vigorously maintained system of sectional economic interdependence would eliminate the chance of renewed subservience to the free-trade, laissez-faire "British System." — United States Senate website
It is the ultimate act of patriotism to oppose a profit-based system of international banking which, in the final analysis, represents *an existential threat to our national sovereignty*.
"The power to create money needs to be returned to the government and the people it represents. The federal debt could be paid, income taxes could be eliminated, and social programs could be expanded; and this could all be done without imposing austerity measures on the people or sparking runaway inflation. Utopian as that may sound, it represents the thinking of some of America's brightest and best, historical and contemporary, including Abraham Lincoln [...] and Benjamin Franklin."... "known popularly as "greenbacks [...] A United States Note, also known as a Legal Tender Note, is a type of paper money that was issued from 1862 to 1971 in the U.S. Having been current for over 100 years, they were issued for longer than any other form of U.S. paper money. [...] They were originally issued directly into circulation by the U.S. Treasury"
So the solution is not unprecedented at all... Again, a move away from the private banking cartel, which ultimately benefits only ultra-rich international investors and trusts-funds at our national expense, is not only the patriotic route to take... it's the only sane route as well. In any case, what are our options? Under the current scenario, due to the frightening realities of a system based on debt and usurious interest, an eventual crash/depression is not likely, its inevitable. My interpretation of what's been happening over the past ten years, and arguably much longer, has been the Fed's attempt to place bigger and bigger fig leaves over the impending tsunami of debt that *they* have accumulated... and very soon now, it will be us, the tax-paying public, that will be forced to rescue our own kidnappers. Can we all say IMF austerity measures coming soon to the USA?!
The reflexive response to the idea of nationalizing the monetary system and central bank, is of course that the gov't cannot be trusted with such an easily abused power, and that unscrupulous politicians and lawmakers will just print limitless notes, causing inflation to skyrocket.
I would like to see one example that supports the idea that systems intended to benefit the public at large are EVER better administered by private, for-profit individuals. How is the public interest *ever* best served this way? How has this *ever* increased transparency and accountability? As if trusting a private banking cartel is *safer* than trusting a publicly accountable representative... This argument must be one of the most vapid and misleading assumptions ever promoted, and yet for centuries it has been made with no real or final refutation... I would say that it is axiomatic that a private institution cannot best serve the public good — by definition its first obligations are to its private stockholders. This is especially relevant when the purpose of said institution is as a central arbiter (i.e. acts as a monopoly) of the most fundamental underpinnings of society.
Bring back the Greenback, Take back the FED, and send the fraudulent, ponzi scheming banksters where they belong... deep inside a secure, publicly guarded vault!
"Bring back the Greenback, Take back the FED, and send the fraudulent, ponzi scheming banksters where they belong... deep inside a secure, publicly guarded vault!"
YES! "Salusa Secundus" for president!
I couldn't agree more. Other public assets: WATER (big push lately to privatize water).
also public lands, open space, research (public profit for public investment).
Privatized WATER for godssake. The planet should be re-named "Planet Water (with some earth here & there)". What's next, privatized AIR?!?
Hi Roady and thanks for your comments. It's good to see someone else bringing up 'Web of Debt', which was pretty eye-opening for me. I can only hope more and more Americans read up on the workings and history of the Fed.
re: "The only thing I disagree with is:
'Funds for these subsidies would be obtained from tariffs and sales of public lands'
Whoa! Wait a minute there: Do the foreign banks which control the fed and the economy sell public lands? Of course not, and with very good reason."
I should to point out that much of my post was pulled from the Wiki article on 'The American System'. The selling of public land stipulation made more sense at an earlier time when 'unclaimed' land was prevalent – I certainly don't endorse this today. As you make clear, a shift to a public central bank would preclude the need for physical assets to back up the paper scrip. All that's needed is the gov't's promise to honor that paper and to guarantee its value, and for us to ensure we employ a government infrastructure we can trust in. The productivity, innovation and resourcefulness of the nation, without the burden of usurious interest to social leeches would take care of the rest. To many, the implication of a nationalized central bank immediately raises a big 'red flag'. But there is no reason to presume that a public central bank leaves no room for private finance, business or investment options. We simply would be making our income tax checks out to ourselves, instead of to JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs (iow, we wouldn't need to pay taxes under a publicly funded national system).
re: "Which brings us to the question: What should be considered as public assets to insure the continuing prosperity of a nation? My opinion is that they should include education, health care and infrastructure."
I think all natural resources should be understood to be public assets. Essentially, people can profit from resources in either a 'creative' or 'exploitative' capacity... Those who take any raw (or legally unclaimed) resource and derive their primary profit from its extraction and transfer are engaged in exploitative profiting. They actually *owe* the whole world for taking something as their own which just before was no one's. This exploitation must be repaid through up front taxation... which is the inverse of today, with the US subsidizing many exploitative industries like the oil and tar-sands industries, even though they are destructive in manufacture, transport and even end use. The 'externalized risks' I'm mentioning, which amount today to a taken-for-granted windfall for these companies, is another aspect of their exploitation, which I highly support changing. When you take, and when you abuse, you should not make obscene profits at the expense of the rest of the world... and yet they do.
Creative profits are whatever elements of increased value that are derived from re-use of raw materials, application of technological innovation and 'artistry', — most of what we understand as the manufacturing aspect of production.
Peace
I would love to see us "bring back the Greenback, Take back the FED, and send the fraudulent, ponzi scheming banksters where they belong... deep inside a secure, publicly guarded vault!" but there is no political and/or law enforcement agency that is unconnected to the Powers That Be and their hellishly self serving system to do any of that, and many of "us" don't realize there's a "them" who is dedicatedly against "us." Unless some new kind of leadership appears on the scene who can awaken what the old Left used to call "the masses" (and North Americans have been propagandized since birth to think of themselves as "rugged individuals,)"), we won't be able to engage in the kind of cooperative collective effort it would take to loosen the grip "they" have on the uncomprehending majority of "us."
Things will have to get far worse before there is any chance of it ever getting better. As ever, I hope I'm wrong.
re: "Unless some new kind of leadership appears on the scene who can awaken what the old Left used to call "the masses" (and North Americans have been propagandized since birth to think of themselves as "rugged individuals,)"), we won't be able to engage in the kind of cooperative collective effort it would take to loosen the grip "they" have on the uncomprehending majority of "us."
Can't disagree at all, unfortunately. Under the column of 'potentially viable' candidates, none of them, other than perhaps Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders, seems the least bit willing to bring up the travesty of a privately run, for-profit central banking system. And Ron Paul wants to return to a gold-backed currency as far as I can tell, which I disagree with, and Bernie Sanders is loath to undermine his Senate seat for what would likely be a counter-productive run against the Wall Streets' incumbent Uncle Tom.. so I don't much blame him for his reluctance. So solutions coming through the current political system are a non-starter, imho.
re: "Things will have to get far worse before there is any chance of it ever getting better. As ever, I hope I'm wrong."
Well, I hope you're wrong too, but I'm afraid I share your pessimism on this. We seem inextricably headed to a point where the massive shortages incurred through compounded interest and unbridled speculation on the international market have created a perfect financial storm... and all the quantitative easing, as well as the secrecy currently surrounding the Fed has been just a prop to keep people from panicking, which they by all rights *probably should be* doing. Basically, if I'm not mistaken, the Titanic is sinking, and the rich people are grabbing up all the life rafts, while the the captain and crew are being paid huge amounts of hush money to lie to the regular passengers telling them this ship's 'unsinkable'. Of course the captain will get his life-raft, but the rest of the crew will end up drowning with the passengers.
Our only chance is for some of the passengers and crew to wise up and stop lying for the privileged few who will leave them to die with the rest of us — Instead, it's time to start yelling loudly about what's really going on. And I do believe more Americans are waking up, and aware that this ship *isn't* unsinkable.... *that it is going down* as we speak. We are all being turned into sacrificial lambs/rats for the sake of a tiny minority who are more than happy to watch us all drown in the wake of their escape vessels.
And wasn't this the game plan of the 'ancien regime' (i.e. the European/British private banking cartels) all along? To pretend to go along with the 'American experiment', then to ultimately sell it out and take it back over? Isn't this why Lincoln HAD to be assassinated? Why *anyone* ever challenging this scheme has to be taken out? I say stopping these 'people', is and has been the number one true American priority from the beginning.
Now is finally time, and if not now, then never, for America to get back to this overriding priority... Time's running out, and its either us, or its them.