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The 'Teach-the-Dems-a-Lesson' Myth
If my e-mail inbox is any indication, many American progressives plan to use the Nov. 2 election as an opportunity to “teach the Democrats a lesson” by either not voting or casting ballots for third parties, even if this contributes to the expected Republican (and Tea Party) landslide.
The thinking seems to be that the loss of the congressional majorities will punish the Democrats for accepting half-measures and compromises on issues from health care and financial reform to job stimulus and war. The Left’s hope apparently is that the chastened Democrats will then shift toward more progressive positions and be more assertive.
However, modern American political history tells us that this strategy never works. After the four key elections in which many progressives abandoned the governing Democrats – in 1968, 1980, 1994 and 2000 – not only did Republicans take U.S. politics further to the right, but the surviving Democrats tacked more to the center and grew more timid.
All four elections also were marred by GOP dirty tricks that drew little or no reaction from either the governing Democrats or the progressives, emboldening the slash-and-burn Republicans to operate in an ever more audacious style.
Tragically, too, the Left’s sideline-sitting contributed to the unnecessary deaths of millions of people in wars from Vietnam and Central America to Iraq and Afghanistan. Arguably even worse, U.S. inaction on global warming – a neglect surely to be continued if Republicans and Tea Partiers are victorious in Election 2010 – may doom the future of a livable planet.
In other words, the “teach-the-Dems-a-lesson” strategy not only doesn’t work, it’s extremely dangerous.
The Vietnam Precedent
Take, for instance, the pivotal election of 1968. The Left was furious with Democratic President Lyndon Johnson for the Vietnam War and with the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, for the bloody Chicago convention.
Many on the Left refused to support Humphrey, even though they knew that would help the election chances of the divisive and disreputable Richard Nixon. Some anti-war activists voted for minor third-party candidates while others simply sat out Election Day, allowing Nixon to win one of the closest elections in U.S. history by less than one percentage point.
However, we now know – based on declassified information from Johnson’s presidential library – that Johnson was on the verge of a peace settlement with the North Vietnamese in Paris and that Humphrey’s election likely would have led to a rapid end of the Vietnam War.
Nixon, who was getting briefings on the progress in Paris, knew that a breakthrough was imminent. The evidence is also now clear that Nixon, possessing that knowledge, let his campaign make contacts with the South Vietnamese government behind Johnson’s back, promising President Nguyen van Thieu a better deal if he boycotted the Paris talks.
Thieu did as Nixon’s campaign wished, refusing to attend the peace talks, thus torpedoing hopes for a quick end to U.S. participation in the war. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “The Significance of Nixon’s ‘Treason.’”]
After taking office, President Nixon had no choice but to continue – and to expand – the war in pursuit of a better outcome for Thieu, who after all knew of Nixon’s treachery.
The additional four years of war resulted in the deaths of more than 20,000 U.S. soldiers and millions of Indochinese in Vietnam and Cambodia, yet the final peace agreement mirrored what had been available to the United States in 1968.
Nixon’s nasty, take-no-prisoners style also shook the political foundations of the United States. The nation grew bitterly divided; parents turned against their own children; war-fueled inflation ate away at incomes; hopes for alleviating poverty vanished; and Americans came to doubt their government could accomplish anything good.
The national wounds inflicted by that ugly era have never fully healed. Much of that, however, might have been avoided if disaffected progressives had swallowed their anger and cast their ballots for Humphrey.
‘Good for the Country’
During Nixon’s Paris-peace-talk gambit, the governing Democrats also revealed what would become a pattern for them, an unwillingness to expose political wrongdoing by Republicans ostensibly to avert partisan divisions for “the good of the country.”
President Johnson was aware of what he called Nixon’s “treason” in the days before Election 1968 and was tempted to expose the illicit contacts. However, other senior Democrats fretted that exposure of such treachery might not prevent Nixon from winning, yet could destroy his legitimacy as president.
“Some elements of the story are so shocking in their nature that I’m wondering whether it would be good for the country to disclose the story and then possibly have a certain individual [Nixon] elected,” said Defense Secretary Clark Clifford in a conference call with Johnson on Nov. 4, 1968. “It could cast his whole administration under such doubt that I think it would be inimical to our country’s interests.”
Clifford’s argument carried the day. Johnson remained silent, Nixon won, and Johnson carried the secret of Nixon’s peace-talk sabotage to his grave.
So, in 1968, the U.S. political process was undergoing three dangerous transformations. The Left was separating itself from practical politics; the Republicans were learning that they could win by playing dirty; and the governing Democrats were shying away from demanding accountability for Republican abuses.
Over the next 42 years, all three of these patterns have deepened, combining to create a political crisis for the nation.
Republican Extremes
Over the past four decades, the only times when the Left and the governing Democrats have pulled together in a meaningful way were when the Republicans were in power and when that power went to their heads.
That was the case when Nixon, who had locked himself into a continuation of the Vietnam War, went nearly crazy in denouncing anti-war protesters as “bums” and going to extremes to block publication of the Pentagon Papers secret history of the war in 1971.
Nixon’s paranoia then led him to commit felonies surrounding his Watergate political spying operation, a scandal that played out from 1972 until Nixon’s resignation in 1974. The Watergate case was one of the few times when the governing Democrats and the Left mostly were on the same page, objecting to Nixon’s abuses.
However, whenever the Democrats were in power and had the potential to accomplish something meaningful, the split always reopened. The governing pragmatists sought incremental change in an often difficult political/media environment, while the idealists demanded sweeping reforms regardless of public resistance.
The division opened up during Jimmy Carter’s presidency when the Left viewed Carter as too centrist and too cautious, prompting a primary challenge from liberal Sen. Edward Kennedy in 1980. Kennedy’s bid fell short but left behind deep antagonisms between the two wings of the Democratic Party.
Many progressives turned a deaf ear to Carter’s warnings about what Ronald Reagan’s election would do to the country. Some backed independent John Anderson or other minor candidates, and some simply didn’t vote.
Iranian Crisis
As it turned out, Carter – like Johnson and Humphrey – was facing Republican skullduggery. The evidence is now overwhelming that elements of Reagan’s campaign contacted Iranian officials who were then holding 52 Americans hostage, a crisis that was eroding Carter’s remaining political support.
Like Nixon with Thieu, Reagan’s team appears to have offered the Iranians a better deal than Carter did, in this case, promises of military hardware via Israel that Iran needed for its conflict with neighboring Iraq.
Failing to win the hostages’ release, Carter saw his reelection hopes dashed. With the first anniversary of the humiliating hostage-taking coming on the day of the election, the polls showed a suddenly widening lead for Reagan who coasted to an easy victory. The hostages were finally released immediately after Reagan was sworn in on Jan. 20, 1981.
(As with the Nixon-Vietnam scheme, governing Democrats recoiled at the idea of holding the Republicans accountable even when extensive evidence of Reagan’s Iran contacts came to light in the last half of the 1980s and the early 1990s. For “the good of the country,” Democrats again swept the evidence under the rug.) [For details, see Robert Parry’s Secrecy & Privilege.]
Reagan’s election marked another turning point in American history, and it was not a positive one. President Carter, for all his shortcomings, had begun addressing some of the big problems confronting the United States, including the need for alternative energy sources, Middle East peace, and human rights as a core value in U.S. foreign policy.
Reagan, however, countered with a “don’t worry, be happy” approach to the future. Tax cuts would swell revenues; no need to worry about your gas-guzzlers; government was the problem, not the rapidly expanding power of multinational corporations; human rights were for sissies.
In selling his policies, Reagan also was aided by a rapidly expanding right-wing news media that was bankrolled to challenge the remnants of the Watergate-era press corps. Meanwhile, the Left largely abandoned the goal of having a national media infrastructure. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “The Left’s Media Miscalculation.”]
Ugly Americans
Despite the harm that Reagan’s economic policies did to the United States – corporations accelerating the shipping of jobs overseas, unions broken, Carter’s solar panels ripped from the White House roof – perhaps Reagan’s most destructive actions came in his global strategies.
Reagan unleashed right-wing “death squads” in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua – killing tens of thousands. To challenge the Soviet Union, he funded Islamist radicals in Afghanistan who would become the backbone of al-Qaeda and the Taliban. He acquiesced to Pakistan’s building of nuclear bombs, perhaps today’s greatest threat to world security.
To justify spending hundreds of billions of dollars more on U.S. military hardware, Reagan also oversaw the politicization of the CIA’s analytical division so it would exaggerate the Soviet threat in the 1980s. Two decades later, that perversion of U.S. intelligence would help justify the invasion of Iraq with “fixed” analytical reports about non-existent WMDs.
In terms of government personnel, Reagan credentialed a young group of intellectuals and ideologues who became known as the neoconservatives. To justify U.S. interventions abroad, these neocons felt justified in using propaganda techniques to manipulate the American people, herding them like cattle in a desired direction. [For details, see Robert Parry’s Lost History.]
Many on the American Left who had abandoned Jimmy Carter were aghast at what Reagan did, especially the atrocities in Central America. But the blame was put mostly on the hapless ex-President and the governing Democrats.
There was very little soul-searching on the Left, which viewed itself as essentially blameless for the catastrophes that the Reagan years wrought.
The Clinton Years
The Reagan excesses, especially the mirage of tax cuts producing extra revenue and the myth that the United States didn’t need an industrial base, created so much economic pain by 1992 that Bill Clinton was able to exploit a split in the conservative vote – between President George H.W. Bush and billionaire Ross Perot – and slip into the White House.
Clinton’s election also came at a time when evidence was finally pouring in regarding political and national security crimes of the early Reagan years, including the Reagan campaign’s arms-for-hostages deals with Iran in both 1980 and later with the Iran-Contra Affair and Reagan’s secret orders to help arm Iran’s enemies in Iraq.
In late 1992, so much new evidence of Republican guilt was arriving at a House task force investigating the 1980 hostage crisis that chief counsel Lawrence Barcella said he urged the chairman, Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana, to extend the inquiry for a few more months, but Hamilton declined citing political difficulties.
Instead, with the goal of maintaining some bipartisan comity in Washington at the start of the Clinton administration, Hamilton’s task force concealed much of the new evidence and issued a report asserting Republican innocence.
In a similar way, the new Clinton administration helped clean up for Reagan and his team on the continuing Iran-Contra investigation (which represented a sequel to the 1980 Republican-Iranian contacts) and on the Iraq-gate scandal regarding clandestine military assistance to Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
High Hopes
As Bill Clinton became the first Democratic president in a dozen years, the governing Democrats had high hopes that they could make progress on some difficult issues that had been ignored under Republican rule, including health care and environmental initiatives. The Democrats also moved to get the nation’s deficit under control, approving a modest rise in income tax rates.
Yet, for all the Clinton administration’s hopes for bipartisanship, the Democrats instead encountered near unanimous Republican opposition to every major initiative. Not a single GOP vote was cast in favor of Clinton’s budget in either the House or the Senate.
Instead, the Republicans relied on their expanding right-wing media, which had added powerful AM radio programming to an influential roster of newspapers, magazines and book publishing houses. Voices on the Right like Rush Limbaugh made every day a fiesta of Clinton bashing.
As the Democrats headed toward Election 1994, the Republicans and their right-wing media allies rallied the conservative base with wild stories about Bill and Hillary Clinton as a kind of Arkansas-based Bonnie and Clyde, leaving a string of death and corruption in their wake.
Though political pundits cite the collapse of health care reform as the key blow to the Democratic majorities, the media-driven hysteria about the Clintons also was a major factor in the right-wing tidal wave that was building. The failure of the American Left to invest in a media infrastructure to counter the Right was another little-noticed factor. A strategic media imbalance was forming.
Yet, even if the Left had worked on building a media infrastructure, it’s not clear that progressive voices would have done much to protect the Clintons from the right-wing attacks. To many on the Left, the Clintons were a couple who had long since sold out their principles to corporate interests.
So, with both American progressives and mainstream Democrats discouraged and demoralized, the Republican tsunami in November 1994 wiped out not only the fragile Democratic Senate majority but ended the long-time Democratic control of the House.
Reagan Redux
The Republicans saw their resounding victory as a mandate to resume Reagan’s assault on Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal and Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society. Trying to assert his “relevance,” Clinton conceded that “the era of big government is over.”
For the next six years, the Republicans and the right-wing media derided government programs that tried to help the middle class and the poor, while pushing through more and more deregulation of corporations, including repeal of a New Deal law separating commercial and investment banks. The repeal passed with the support of the Clinton administration.
Besides trying to dismantle much of the federal government, the Republicans hounded Clinton, finally impeaching him in the House for lying about an extramarital affair. Though Clinton survived a humiliating Senate trial, the Republicans were optimistic about regaining total control of Washington in Election 2000.
The Republican presidential nominee, Texas Gov. George W. Bush, was a thinly qualified scion of a political royal family. Opposite him was Clinton’s wonky Vice President Al Gore, who was an expert on the complex workings of government and who had a particular passion for the environment, alternative energy and the pressing need to address global warming.
In my view, Election 2000 may have represented the last real chance for the world to turn back from environmental devastation and from the dangerous political instability that will follow. In 2000, the future of the planet was truly in the balance – and Gore, despite his lack of charisma, may have been the best person for the job, at least the best that modern U.S. politics could produce.
However, much of the Left viewed Gore as an unacceptable centrist. A number of prominent progressives also rejected my warnings about the dangers posed by Bush, particularly my concern that he would restore the neoconservatives to positions of power over foreign policy.
I was especially alarmed by Bush’s choice of Dick Cheney to be his vice presidential running mate. I had covered Cheney for years when he was in Congress and knew him to be a rigid ideologue who was much closer philosophically to the neocons than was generally understood.
Bush Illusions
At the time, most political analysts of all stripes viewed Bush as an Establishment Republican. They accepted his self-description as “a compassionate conservative” and thought he would govern with his father's moderation, surrounded by his father’s old foreign policy hands, the likes of Brent Scowcroft and James Baker.
I was assured by several left-wing political analysts that I was overly alarmed at the prospects of a neocon revival if Bush won.
This widely held viewpoint fed into the notion on the Left that Bush would not be much different from Gore and that Election 2000, therefore, represented a good opportunity to “teach the Democrats a lesson” by showing them that they couldn’t “take the Left for granted.”
So, many progressives decided that they would back Green Party candidate Ralph Nader. To rally more support on the Left, Nader’s campaign touted what may be one of the biggest – and most dangerous – lies ever told in American politics, that “there’s not a dime worth of difference” between George W. Bush and Al Gore.
Nader succeeded not only in siphoning off votes from Gore but his attacks on the Vice President – often echoing similar attack lines from the Republicans – frustrated the Gore campaign’s efforts to gain momentum.
A Stolen Election
Though Gore still managed to outpoll Bush by about a half million votes nationwide and almost surely would have beaten Bush in the key state of Florida if all legally cast votes were counted, Bush used a combination of clever lawyering and hardball politics to seize the White House. [For details, see Neck Deep.]
To this day, very few Nader supporters will admit that they contributed to Bush’s tainted victory, although it should be obvious that Nader’s votes in Florida – if most would have gone to Gore – would have put the election too far out of reach for Bush to steal.
A Gore presidency also would have taken the country in a far different direction. Most significantly, he might have made significant progress in getting the United States to face up to the crisis of global warming, an existential threat to mankind that Bush studiously ignored.
It may be a bitter irony that the one major political accomplishment of America’s Green Party will be that it helped condemn the world to environmental disaster.
Whether Nader backers acknowledge their complicity or not, the hard truth is that the American Left – in this attempt to “teach the Democrats a lesson” – contributed to the dangerous ascension of George W. Bush to power.
Besides his inaction on global warming, Bush restored the neocons to key positions throughout the foreign policy bureaucracy and, after 9/11, adopted their aggressive strategy for seeking violent “regime change” in Muslim countries considered hostile to Israel.
As a result of Bush’s “global war on terror” and his invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, hundreds of thousands have died and many more – including many children and other noncombatants – have lost limbs and suffered maiming.
Bush also trampled on traditional constitutional and legal principles with his assertion of unlimited presidential powers that included his secret wiretapping of citizens, his waiving of habeas corpus rights to a fair trial, and his torturing prisoners held in clandestine prisons.
At home, Bush’s tax cuts mostly for the rich and his further deregulation of corporations contributed to a bubble-and-bust economy that – by the end of his eight years in office – had devastated the American middle class, which had grown during the Clinton years but was rapidly shrinking by late 2008 and early 2009 with the disappearance of millions of jobs.
Brief Reunion
Because of the alarm over the Bush administration, the Left and the governing Democrats found common ground in Election 2006 and 2008. In Election 2008, many progressives set aside their concerns about Barack Obama’s accommodating style of politics and rallied behind the first major-party African-American candidate for U.S. president.
Obama’s historic victory in November 2008 touched many progressives as it did other Americans, though some on the Left resisted any sentimentality.
On Election Night, I encountered Ralph Nader at the make-shift studio in downtown Washington where TheRealNews.com was handling its election coverage. He had run again as an independent candidate but had gotten far fewer votes than at his high point in 2000.
Nader was attacking Obama and the governing Democrats, making clear that he would continue opposing them unless they turned to him for advice and direction. He said that if they didn’t, he would be like “the canary in the coal mine,” an indication that Obama was another centrist sell-out.
No doubt, many progressives believe that Nader’s comment was prescient. The Obama administration did disappoint many of them by making too many concessions to the Republicans in a quixotic search for bipartisanship.
With the Republicans moving almost in lockstep against Obama’s initiatives -- and resorting to Senate filibusters at an unprecedented rate -- Obama and the Democrats did scale back their proposals, like the job stimulus plan, and they sacrificed key features, such as the public option for health insurance, in their bid for legislative accomplishments.
Obama also came in for progressive criticism for refusing to hold Bush and his subordinates accountable for torture and other war crimes, another example of governing Democrats shying away from a divisive struggle that they might deem not "good for the country."
Though Obama did begin winding down the Iraq War as he had promised, he acquiesced to the insistence of Bush holdovers at the Pentagon, including Gen. David Petraeus and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, for an escalation of the war in Afghanistan. [See Consortiumnews.com's "How Bush Holdovers Trapped Obama on Afghan War."]
The Right’s Narrative
While many on the Left grumbled about Obama’s centrist approach, the Right sold millions of Americans on an entirely different narrative, that Obama was a closet socialist who was taking over the economy and wasting tax dollars on useless jobs programs.
Again, the Right’s media dominance, contrasted with the Left’s media weakness, has played a key role in convincing a large segment of the population that whatever slur is directed at Obama and the Democrats is true.
This media dynamic, combined with the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling permitting unlimited corporate spending on political ads, has thrown the Democrats profoundly on the defensive, with many of them running away from their votes on health care and stimulus spending.
To compound this crisis facing the Democrats, many on the American Left have chosen this moment to repeat the experiences of 1968, 1980, 1994 and 2000 – determined to “teach the Democrats a lesson” by sitting out the election or voting for third parties.
There is little indication that these progressives have learned anything from the outcomes of those four earlier elections. Nobody seems to be asking the pertinent question: "Has that technique ever worked?"
Instead of the Left’s goal of pulling the governing Democrats and the American public to the left, the undeniable direction of U.S. politics (and media) has been to the right.
After 42 years, the Republicans are far more right-wing than Richard Nixon (and arguably even crazier), and most governing Democrats are far more centrist than the likes of Tip O’Neill, Lyndon Johnson and the old Democratic lions of that earlier era.
In other words, the Left’s notion of “teaching the Democrats a lesson” is a myth. It may make some progressives feel morally pure, but it doesn’t work. And, the results of the last 42 years should make clear that the idea is not only folly but it is dangerous.
If the pundits are correct and the Democrats go down to a crushing defeat on Nov. 2, the result will not be more progressive legislation but even less; not more spending on green jobs and a rebuilt infrastructure but more neglect; not a strengthening of the middle class but even starker financial inequities and enhanced corporate power; not a reordering of priorities away from the military-industrial complex but more tough-guy foreign policies.
Indeed, some of the more extreme Tea Party-backed candidates have made clear that their ultimate goal is the total repeal of FDR's New Deal. For both governing Democrats and disaffected progressives, the results of Election 2010 could well prove catastrophic.
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Show AllI will be voting Green for the first time ever this election, not to "teach the Dems a lesson", but because I am sick to my stomach by the corrupt farce of a democracy that the US electoral process has become.
Look at the money being spent this year, look at the dirty tricks of the Democrats and the Republicans, look at all the obstacles and court challenges they are making against third parties to keep them off the ballot in key states. "American democracy" is a lie, and this electoral system is a disgrace to the world. The two-party system must be destroyed, and I will do my part this year to end it once and for all.
Agreed. It isn't about punishment; it's about supporting someone I can truly feel good about. I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. From now on I'll vote Green or not at all.
Parry has presented revisionist history to make his case for the Democratic Party.
Had the Democrats "compromised" on health care and financial industry reform, I would be not only voting for Democrats on Nov. 2, I would be out knocking on doors to promote candidates as I did 30 years ago. Since the Democrats have capitulatede on every issue, I will (for the first time since I started voting 40 years ago) not vote for ANY Democrats.
"Compromise" implies that both sides got something out of the deal. On every issue the Democrats start the negotiation at the point of compromise and end up capitulating, giving the Republicans everything they expected. The Republicans play along with like Brer Rabbit pleading not to be thrown in the briar patch.
Parry also tells us the "Democrats tack to the right after Republican takeovers".
Anybody who hasn't been locked in a closet realizes that Democrats have been tacking to the right for nearly 50 years.
The Republicans are running the US into the ground at 100 mph while the Democrats are running the US into the ground at 90 mph. Take your pick, partisans !
My sentiments exactly. I'd be pounding the pavement right now instead of this stupid keyboard.
Just a note to say that I am already,"pounding the pavement" in support of the Green Party and platform, and have been for some time now. I believe wholeheartedly that the ennui of the electorate is the prime reason that both Party's have all but merged ideologically, if not in word than in deed.
YEAH!!! I couldn't agree more.
I wish the people who comment here were allowed to write essays. God the independent left needs its own community blog like dkos has for the establishment dems.
Neo-Progressives on Facebook.
Trolls will be dumped.
:)
Reminds me of the Malcolm X quote:
“You can’t drive a knife into a man’s back nine inches, pull it out six inches, and call it progress.”
It seems that's what Robert Parry would like us to do. The Democrats never hold the Republicans accountable for their crimes. And when the Dems do get into office, they don't fulfill their promises for which they are elected. So, Parry's argument is based on the speculation that they would have done something better had they been reelected. Problem is Mr. Parry they don't do anything worthwhile when they have the chance anyway. You're just not making a very convincing argument.
Now, had Mr. Parry started out by saying that it is a given that both D's and R's represent the narrow interests of the ruling class - not the majority of Americans; and, that there may be times where it might be strategic for citizens to support the Democratic Party i.e., "2nd most enthusiastic capitalist party" (a knife 3" in their backs) over the other party of the ruling class, that would be a nuanced, honest, and in my view, more compelling argument. We could discuss the strategic value of that. But he's not doing that, he's arguing that we should continue to buy into "lesser-evilism".
Correct!
I share all your sentiments about the Dems, amd also support the Green Party agenda. I also know this: Republicans would LOVE it if every progressive voted Green.
I found your remark rather confusing. You state, in one breath, that you support an agenda but will not vote for it. So, tell me, how many progressives are allowed to vote Green? What is a sufficient number to express dissatisfaction?
Methinks I see a democratic loyalist in the room..not exactly an elephant, and politeness would indicate that I refrain from calling you an ass when all you do is misplace your loyalty towards a donkey.
If you support, as you say you do, the Green Party platform, then you must, perforce, abhor the actions of both Dems and Repugs as they act in direct opposition to that agenda. So what, exactly, are you saying here?
I'm just trying to speak the truth about a vicious dilemma. I would never urge anyone to vote against their conscience or best interests. I juggle my votes between Dems and third parties as I see fit. I didn’t like Obama, but I voted for him for one primary reason, His choices for Supreme Court would have been clearly better than McCain’s. Apart from that, the differences start to fade between two corporate-approved company co-managers. I guess what I’m saying is, Republicans are a known evil, and voting for Dems to keep the Guardians Of Plutocracy out of power can be a valid reason to choose the lesser of evils. I’m not saying I like it, or have a better idea. Voting for corporatists is both painful and futile.
Our slim hope for democracy begins with constitutionally reversing corporate personhood and “money is free speech”. This is where we need a movement, or party, with a laser sharp focus and the passion of the tea cult. It may just take another GOP takeover for the Dems to get that idea. Not that I would count on it. I think Dems actually prefer being in the minority, so they can dodge the blame and still play the game.
The lesser of two evils rides again!
The truth as you see it is not the truth as I see it. Obama's appointment to the Court is yet to prove herself, only time will show whether or not she steps up on Progressive issues. One of the finest Jurists to hold that position, Earl Warren, was appointed by a Republican, as were :
William Brennan (Eisenhower), Harry Blackmun (Nixon), John Paul Stevens (Ford), Anthony Kennedy (Reagan), Sandra Day O'Connor (Reagan)
I note this only to attempt, yet again, to explode the myth that voting Democrat is somehow saving the nation from those evil Republicans. Not that the GOP is a bastion of progressiveness, or honesty, integrity as well. Yet the plain and simple truth remains that Democrats stab progressives in the back repeatedly yet seem to get a pass far too often.
The simple noting that Obama gathered three quarters of a billion dollars during his two year run at a job paying four hundred thousand a year might give a thoughtful person pause. Do you really believe that immense sum of money came from progressive pockets? Most , by far, came from corporate sources. Thus the strings tying Democrats to the real rulers of this nation, the boardrooms of the largest corporations, are as real as are those around the GOP.
The ties that bind progressives to the Democrats are simply lies, plain and simple. Whether one votes elephant or ass, one votes for continued corporate control, continued war for profit, continued rendition, torture, outsourcing our jobs and the entire litany of the creeping fascism represented by the false front of a Duopoly party in charge. Our system has been subverted, and for a very long time. Short of violent revolution, which I simply cannot support, voting for and building up third party politics seems the only way to break the stranglehold our corporations have upon our governance.
Then let the greater of two evils prevail.
Are you suggesting McCain SC appointees would have followed that logic? Recent history contradicts the pattern. Look how he's goose-stepped to the right. McCain would be yet another neocon if he had won.
Progressives are only "stabbed in the back" if they are foolish enough to believe Democrats are progressive.
The greater of two evils led us to war, a police state, and debt, along with a Roberts Supreme Court with a sidekick in Alito. We are heading for more of the greater of evils again. The only real choice is between the Right and the radical Right.
I don't know which would be easier; changing Dems, or establishing a viable third party. And with a third party we would need proportional representation for any benefit. It seems to me the best way to stop Republicans would be the former, but in a system so corrupt and rigged, we may have to consider revolution, not violent, but non-cooperative, as led by Gandhi. But how do we do that with a brainwashed public? They will need to suffer first to become conscious.
Put it this way. It's head's they win, tails we lose. Is that democratic?
Thanks Max, but the light of reason often fails to penetrate precisely where it is needed most.
Amen Brother DC-CPH.
"American democracy" is a lie, and this electoral system is a disgrace to the world. The two-party system must be destroyed, and I will do my part this year to end it once and for all.
Well said, and I'm right there with you. And damn the consequences. Seriously.
To quote a very smart man, Écrasez l'infâme!
You are, of course, entitled to vote for whomever you want, but to write what you did after presumably reading Parrys article comes across as terrbly self-centered.
I'd rather that you have provided a rebuttal to Parrys assertation.
Many democrat candidated are terrible, but in other cases, the difference is substantial.
The system is corrupt to the core, but isn't electoral reform, or any reform, going to be at least a small amount more difficult with republicans controlling the US congress and the state capitols?
"...but isn't electoral reform, or any reform, going to be at least a small amount more difficult with republicans controlling the US congress and the state capitols?"
No. It wouldn't happen anyway.
Exactly.
Yes. Exactly.
Exactly
The Dems have had numerous opportunities to support electoral reform since losing the White House in 2000. I've heard little talk and even less action. Don't count on them to reform the system. It ain't gonna happen.
We need the Dems to work in a coalition with the people and other parties like the Greens. Right now they act as if they are the only game in town and that we the people have no choices.
Every two years they try to ramp up the fear of the Republicans. I am afraid of the Republicans but the Democrats are not the solution.
Well, for one thing, Parry doesnt tell the truth about Afghanistan. The truth is, the Carter administration and national security advisor Zig Brzezinski started backing and organizing the mujahideen BEFORE the Soviets came in at the request of the Afghan government to help stop the destabilizing influence, a government that was THE most progressive in the history of Afghanistan.
And I know that Parry knows this, so f*** him for deliberately omitting the facts.
Here is Zig in his own words:
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/brzezinski-how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/
How about US involvment in the Middle East? Well, part of what we are doing there is called the freakin "Carter Doctrine." From answers.com:
"To ensure protection of Middle East oil, Carter declared that the United States would consider any attempt by an outside force (the Soviet Union) to gain control of the gulf region an assault on U.S. vital interests that would be repelled by military force if necessary. Consequently, Carter expanded military aid to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel, and Pakistan, and went beyond surrogate forces to create a U.S. Rapid Deployment Joint Task Force (RDF)."
Please re-read the last sentence. There is NO evidence that democrats - Carter or Johnson - would have been less accomodating of the military-industrial complex than republicans.
We got into an escalation of the Vietnam War based on a lie called the Gulf of Tonkin incident, under the JOHNSON administration. Parry fails to mention this fact as he goes about cherry-picking historical facts to suit his purpose here.
Parry advance what we might call The Myth of the Altruistic Democrats. According to this myth, the democrats never go after republican dirty tricks and illegalities because they have the good of the country in mind when they let all the sh** slide.
Well, that is just so much horsesh**! And Parry knows it. And if the dems have/had evidence of illegalities, it is/was their sworn duty to tell the American people, who they supposedly work FOR. Or, why dont they come out and tell the people the truth, that it isnt altruism that motivates them, it is self-advancement AND the fear that they would be assassinated if they told the people the full stinking truth about what is REALLY going on.
Parry continues the "Obama-got-trapped-into-expanding-the-Af-Pak-war" myth. Again, Obama doesnt dare go against the MIC, or dare come out and declare the truth that American foreign policy has been a total disaster on all fronts, though of course, a complete success for the US-Israeli- MIC-Homeland-Security-Industries.
Does altruism explain why Obama lets the corporations and the bankers run this country?
Does altruism explain why Clinton savagely bombarded Yugoslavia, and kept up sanctions on Iraq that resulted in hundreds of thousands of civilian -childrens - deaths?
Seeing this article right before the election is so predictable it aint funny. What Parry fails to note is that "the power" has so totally gone to to the heads of the elites who own this country AND their enablers in BOTH parties that they arent even bothering to cover-up their contempt for democracy and utter disdain for the people of this country.
Does Obama or any other pol want political cover in order to actualize that burning altruism that lives concealed in the Democrat heart? Well then, he can propose a national referendum on the wars, single-payer, etc.,and let the voice of the people be heard, you know, the people who are supposed to have the right (theoretically) to decide what direction their country goes. For those unfamiliar with the term, the following is from Wiki:
"A referendum (also known as a plebiscite or a ballot question) is a direct vote in which an entire electorate is asked to either accept or reject a particular proposal. This may result in the adoption of a new constitution, a constitutional amendment, a law, the recall of an elected official or simply a specific government policy. It is a form of direct democracy. The measure put to a vote is known in the U.S. as a ballot proposition or measure."
Parry would have me believe in the good intentions of people like Pelosi, Reed, Emanuel and an Obama who is stepping up drone-fired missle attacks in cities in Pakistan, a country that is suffering from massive flooding that is putting millions of people in dire straights.
Well, the altruistc demos have had all they needed to accomplish what we the people have asked for, and they told us to go f***-off. A teaparty-repub victory will only hasten the collapse of the american rigged political system into utter delegitimacy, and to paraphrase R.E.M, "It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine voting third party."
Well said, Kitaj.
Excellent!
It's time to break out of the Duopoly controlled closet! Still, I think the Democratic leadership would love not having to be in the majority. They can have all their excuses back plus get the moola for their toothless performances.
The duopoly will design an adequate punishment for independent voters by being really, really bad in it's Republican costume. The so called Democrats will put on their pretend opposition costume, and the country will continue to the right.
Out of the ashes ......... we can build something better. We have to believe that.
Thank you very much. I hope you don't mind if I repeat and use the "Myth of the Altruistic Democrats." Great label for this misconception. Ditto the REM recast. Brilliant post through and through.
I belatedly add my voice to the chorus of praise, Kitaj.
It's an eloquent and forceful rebuttal.
I'm again constrained to recall once and future CD commenter Jerry D. Rose's trenchant neologism, "subjunctivitis". He coined it as a result in reading too many panglossian, i.e. irrationally optimistic, articles here and elsewhere expressing unjustified high positive regard for Obama and his administration or the general viability of the political process.
Rose explains, "... (after the 'subjunctive mood' in English grammar: may, might, perhaps, hopefully, etc.) in which people confuse their sense of reality with what they wish to be real. http://sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/?p=240"
Your comment, along with many others, forms the corrective lens to Parry's acute subjunctivitis. I don't expect he'd be persuaded, but maybe he'll at least try them on. Thanks.
Excellent riposte Kitaj.
Kitaj,
Your post shatters the myth of democratic altruism. It is refreshing to read someone who actually has a memory as opposed to a MSM implant. Time after time, when the chips were down, the democratic party abandoned its constituents, values, and it's very reason to exist. For decades I kept believing that if only this or if only that were different, the party could and would re-assume its role as a progressive force for democracy and equality (more or less) for and by the people. That party, the party of Roosevelt died a long time ago and its corpse is dug up and displayed at election time. That is what Mr. Parry is all about. He is a grave robber.
There does not exist in America, in any form, a force that can challenge the domination of the ruling plutocracy. There exists no leadership, centrality of opinion, party or movement which is not fatally compromised. There is only one likely outcome and that is the evaporation of the ligitimacy of the entire system. Such is the fate of empires. In my humble opinion, it makes no difference what so ever whether an individual votes or not, or for whom.
I see that most comments here don't agree w Mr Parry's premise. I've seen his argument time & again. Vote for the Dems cause the GOP is full of crazies. But then the Dems alienate their progressive base & don't accomplish any progressive agendas & often failing to even really try- even when they have solid control of both houses of congress & the White House IE: w the 2008 election of Obama. Yet they've failed - or even worse PRETEND to do something as they SELL OUT to Corp interest - IE: the fake health-care, finance, RTTT school - Reforms [let alone jobs program, fore-closure moratorium, etc] - & then PROCLAIM SUCCESS. Their whole shtick is vote for us cause the GOP is worse - as is happening now & what happened in 2004. I saw Mr Parry's [who does sometimes put out some really informative info] argument to progressives preluded by Norm Solomon on The Real News a couple of weeks ago. But they won't acknowledge that the reason there's an enthusiasm gap is because since 2008's election of Obama, there's been nothing for progressives to be enthusiastic about - Poly-tricks as usual. Parry [like Solomon] blames Al Gore's 'defeat' in 2000 on Ralph Nader, though unlike Solomon he at least acknowledges the 2000 election was stolen. But then he blames progressives 'teach the Dems a lesson' position as much as Nader [going beyond even Solomon's / Dem loyalist - Nader 2000 scapegoating].
The 4 reasons Gore didn't get the White house in 2000 are: 1} the Busites / Neo-Cons HIJACKED the election in FL... 2} The Supreme Court's [5 out 9 members] violated the Constitution's mandate that all votes be counted - ordering a halt to the recount - thus giving Bush FL... 3} Gore failed to protect his & Clinton's home states of TN & AK (reverse just this tactical error & Gore would have won despite FL & the Court)... 4} Nader's 2000 bid- which only became significant after the first 3 conditions. Yet Dem loyalist talking-heads only focus on the least significant factor [Nader] & scapegoat him - as a fear tool to keep progressives towing the Dems' line.
Parry's info about Nixon / Kissinger interfering w Johnson's effort to talk w the N Vietnamese [prelude to Reagan / Bush 'October Surprise'] is note-worthy, but as noted by Kitaj- what about the False Flag Gulf Tonkin incident by JOHNSON himself [w McNamara] that they used as a pretext for the massive escalation in Vietnam. If Mr Parry & other Dem apologist talking-heads won't even acknowledge these OBVIOUS FACTS, they certainly won't touch evidence indicating that Johnson, Nixon, Ford, & Bush may have in some way be implicated in JFK's assassination &/or cover-up -or- that there's likely much more to 9-11 than: 19 Muslim guys w box-cutters {most of whom shouldn’t have even been able to get in &/or stay in the US in the first place -&- half of them most likely shouldn’t have been able to get on those planes that day} successfully outwitted a Trillion-$ defense-security-intelligence network while being directed by a Muslim ‘Phantom Menace’ in an Afghan cave half a world away while he was hooked-up to a dialysis machine... Nor the implications of the fact that John Kerry is a distant relative of the Bushes & a fellow Skull & Bones-man [which may explain why he so quickly Bent-Over for Bush when the Bushites repeated their 2000 FL magic-act in 2004 OH] - or that Obama is related to the Bushes, Cheney, Ford, Johnson, Roosevelt, James Madison, & now apparently Sarah Palin & Rush Limp-balls -&- apparently may have been a protégée' of Zig Brzezinsky since he [Obama] graduated in political science w focus on the USSR / Soviet Union from Colombia College in 1983, while Brzezinsky was a tenured Prof in Colombia's political science dept & a known expert on Russia / USSR. He then turns up as Candidate Obama's top foreign policy wonk. As noted here by Kitaj, Old Zig{zag} helped 'Set It Off' in Afghan in 1979 - leading to the Russian invasion & rise [w US support] of the Mujahadeem / Taliban / Al-Qeada. In 1997 Brzezinsky wrote 'The Grand Chess-board' whose main thesis was that the US as the world's lone super-power should focus on Eur-Asia especially the Stans - which has vast mineral wealth. And that US should array it-self to prevent any alliance - especially between Russia & China [& possibly Iran & Turkey] that could challenge its objective in the Eur-Asia-Stans. So where is Obama War on Terror focused - Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran [w implications for Tagikastan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, etc - IE: the 'soft under-belly' of Russia & at China's Eur-Asia-Stan frontier] - IE: right where Old Zig{zag} talked about in /on his 'Grand Chess-board'.
The 2 party DEMs vs GOPs, liberal vs conservative, 'left vs right' paradigm is a STACKED DECK.
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"I'd rather that you have provided a rebuttal to Parrys assertation."
Kitaj (posted at 3:01) has done as you suggested. This is meant for SaboCat by the way.
..."State Capitols? "Congress"?
I'm not concerned about my "State Capitol". I'm concerned about this unrelenting, seemingly unstoppable, evil war monster in Washington D.C. that democrats can't feed fast enough.
"but isn't electoral reform, or any reform, going to be at least a small amount more difficult with republicans controlling the US congress and the state capitols?"
NO!
What's coming is not simply 'reform'. The corporatocracy made it a key practice to make the American populace as greedy and self centered as possible. We are there. We aren't buying the bullshit anymore.
Yes, many fine institutions and good people will be plowed under because of the coming turmoil but the ego-monster that Madison avenue created must self destruct explosively. This will be like the civil war on steroids.
Cat herders are in for some very rough times.
"Cat herders are in for some very rough times."
But the sheople - the majority - can be lead anywhere it seems.
I think our 'cat' population is increasing exponentially. Gallup just polled on war justification and we are evenly split. That's unheard of in this 24/7 love war and be afraid PR tsunami we live in. The PR is losing traction at an exponential rate. The marginal cost of cowing us is no longer cost effective for the elite. These things really do have inertia. And wait until the crooks in power wipe out what's left of our social safety net.
I'd have to guess theres benn a failure in the PR machnery. I see this week a popular arm-chair WarGame has had to remove referance to the Taliban, why did they demand profit-sharing?
Back to the thread, it seems like it's time for a fire sale! (gods how many alarms did that phrase trigger at NSA) But it's true the American people no longer have a seat at the table in deciding anything this Empire does. So it's time to stop pretending it's any king of democracy. Of course if we let that piece of the puzzle fall away, other parts are also no longer supported. and it tumbles down, take good notes this will be on the test. Humanity will go to it's dark place for a decade or so. But if we start small maybe we can rebuild it right, with enough of the right kind of checks and balances that these mistakes can't happen,
My thoughts were to add in a vote process so any 1% could stop a war but 90% must vote for it. As well as national "None of the Above" if no group can front somebody that doesn't get 51% leave the position open for that term. Better the seat is kept warm by a cat than a charlitan who sells his votes and reponsibility.
>^^<
"You are, of course, entitled to vote for whomever you want, but to write what you did after presumably reading Parrys article comes across as terrbly self-centered."
We are also entitled not to vote at all; with or without your permission. Oh, and the broad insult to one and all who don't agree with you comes across as both high-handed and manipulative. I'm just sayin'...
"Many democrat candidated(sic) are terrible, but in other cases, the difference is substantial."
Kucinich, Franks, et al, have taught us that is doesn't matter how substantial the difference in candidates is; the corruption of party politics trumps all. I, for one, am fed-up with being disenfranchised from my voting rights (and constitutional rights) by the political machine. Speaking as a technorati, I understand that as long as the vote is computerized, the outcome is determined by the program(mers), not the voters.
I'll be writing in my vote: NO CONFIDENCE
Franks?
Barney, not just a ridiculous caricature of a dinosaur.....
Frank, oh, great editor.
I may not be so great but you do have a penchant for GRATing on ones nerves.
One should never write copy while looking in a mirror.
Embarrassed that you missed my original point? You actually thought you could teach me something? As though I were too utterly stupid to know who was being referred to. (Yes, I end sentences in prepositions, but I feel free to give myself permission, as I don't run about the boards playing editor.)
You're the one who tried to set yourself up as a grammarian. I'm only illustrating how wrong your self-assessment was. (I suspect that there are those who get a chuckle out of self-acclaimed experts being brought back to earth with a thump.)
Had enough? Just be careful who you target.
Now run along, little one.
Not to take sides, but what an ass.
Unfortunately you are absolutely on the mark. This poster fails utterly to see how much she exposes of her inner self with each diatribe in defense of the indefensible.
All that massive ego over what was an attempt at humorous interjection of a cartoon character, and to explain, gently, what should have been obvious to anyone. "Phony Feathers" knew damn well to whom that poster referred, but couldnt help posting an unnecessary and supercilious remark followed by a diatribe. The poster in question is a real jerk and one not afraid to show herself as such.
Photons Feather is a male, not female. But I've known him for years from another site before I saw him here. I know you and him have issues with each other but I'm not sure how to help either one of you out on this one since each of you has been helpful at different times in the past. You two shouldn't be arguing over a minor issue.
Sabocat's is one of the few rational comments so far.
Robert Parry has a long history of progressive journalism. He is correct in this general thesis that there is very little equivalence between democrats and the republicans, making the reluctance to vote for the better of two evils not only irrational but highly counterproductive.
I don't know whether he's right about Nader and other more peripheral points, but his general point is impossible for me to argue against.