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On the Claimed 'War Exception' to the Constitution
Last week, I wrote about a revelation buried in a Washington Post article by Dana Priest which described how the Obama administration has adopted the Bush policy of targeting selected American citizens for assassination if they are deemed (by the Executive Branch) to be Terrorists. As The Washington Times' Eli Lake reports, Adm. Dennis Blair was asked about this program at a Congressional hearing yesterday and he acknowledged its existence:
The U.S. intelligence community policy on killing American citizens who have joined al Qaeda requires first obtaining high-level government approval, a senior official disclosed to Congress on Wednesday.
Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair said in each case a decision to use lethal force against a U.S. citizen must get special permission. . . .
He also said there are criteria that must be met to authorize the killing of a U.S. citizen that include "whether that American is involved in a group that is trying to attack us, whether that American is a threat to other Americans. Those are the factors involved."
Although Blair emphasized that it requires "special permission" before an American citizen can be placed on the assassination list, consider from whom that "permission" is obtained: the Preisdent, or someone else under his authority within the Executive Branch. There are no outside checks or limits at all on how these "factors" are weighed. In last week's post, I wrote about all the reasons why it's so dangerous -- as well as both legally and Consitutionally dubious -- to allow the President to kill American citizens not on an active battlefield during combat, but while they are sleeping, sitting with their families in their home, walking on the street, etc. That's basically giving the President the power to impose death sentences on his own citizens without any charges or trial. Who could possibly support that?
But even if you're someone who does want the President to have the power to order American citizens killed without a trial by decreeing that they are Terrorists (and it's worth remembering that if you advocate that power, it's going to be vested in all Presidents, not just the ones who are as Nice, Good, Kind-Hearted and Trustworthy as Barack Obama), shouldn't there at least be some judicial approval required? Do we really want the President to be able to make this decision unilaterally and without outside checks? Remember when many Democrats were horrified (or at least when they purported to be) at the idea that Bush was merely eavesdropping on American citizens without judicial approval? Shouldn't we be at least as concerned about the President's being able to assassinate Americans without judicial oversight? That seems much more Draconian to me.
It would be perverse in the extreme, but wouldn't it be preferable to at least require the President to demonstrate to a court that probable cause exists to warrant the assassination of an American citizen before the President should be allowed to order it? That would basically mean that courts would issue "assassination warrants" or "murder warrants" -- a repugnant idea given that they're tantamount to imposing the death sentence without a trial -- but isn't that minimal safeguard preferable to allowing the President unchecked authority to do it on his own, the very power he has now claimed for himself? And if the Fifth Amendment's explicit guarantee -- that one shall not be deprived of life without due process -- does not prohibit the U.S. Government from assassinating you without any process, what exactly does it prohibit? Noting Scott Brown's campaign to deny accused Terrorists access to lawyers and a real trial, Adam Serwer wrote:
This is the new normal for Republicans: You can be denied rights not through due process of law but merely based on the nature of the crime you are suspected of committing.
That's absolutely true, but that also perfectly describes this assassination program -- as well as a whole host of other now-Democratic policies, from indefinite detention to denial of civilian trials.
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The severe dangers of vesting assassination powers in the President are so glaring that even GOP Rep. Pete Hoekstra is able to see them (at least he is now that there's a Democratic President). At yesterday's hearing, Hoekstra asked Adm. Blair about the threat that the President might order Americans killed due to their Constitutionally protected political speech rather than because they were actually engaged in Terrorism. This concern is not an abstract one. The current controversy has been triggered by the Obama administration's attempt to kill U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen. But al-Awalki has not been accused (let alone convicted) of trying to attack Americans. Instead, he's accused of being a so-called "radical cleric" who supports Al Qeada and now provides "encouragement" to others to engage in attacks -- a charge al-Awalki's family vehemently denies (al-Awalki himself is in hiding due to fear that his own Government will assassinate him).
The question of where First Amendment-protected radical advocacy ends and criminality begins is exactly the sort of question with which courts have long grappled. In the 1969 case of Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court unanimously reversed a criminal conviction of a Ku Klux Klan leader who -- surrounded by hooded indivduals holding weapons -- gave a speech threatening "revengeance" against any government official who "continues to suppress the white, Caucasian race." The Court held that the First Amendment protects advocacy of violence and revolution, and that the State is barred from punishing citizens for the expression of such views. The Brandenberg Court pointed to a long history of precedent protecting the First Amendment rights of Communists to call for revolution -- even violent revolution -- inside the U.S., and explained that the Government can punish someone for violent actions but not for speech that merely advocates or justifies violence (emphasis added):
As we [395 U.S. 444, 448] said in Noto v. United States, 367 U.S. 290, 297 -298 (1961), "the mere abstract teaching . . . of the moral propriety or even moral necessity for a resort to force and violence, is not the same as preparing a group for violent action and steeling it to such action." See also Herndon v. Lowry, 301 U.S. 242, 259 -261 (1937); Bond v. Floyd, 385 U.S. 116, 134 (1966). A statute which fails to draw this distinction impermissibly intrudes upon the freedoms guaranteed by the First and Fourteenth Amendments. It sweeps within its condemnation speech which our Constitution has immunized from governmental control.
From all appearances, al-Awalki seems to believe that violence by Muslims against the U.S. is justified in retaliation for the violence the U.S. has long brought (and continues to bring) to the Muslim world. But as an American citizen, he has the absolute Constitutional right to express those views and not be punished for them (let alone killed) no matter where he is in the world; it's far from clear that he has transgressed the advocacy line into violent action. Obviously, there are those who justify such assassination powers on the ground that radical Islam is a grave threat, but that is what is always said to justify Constitutional abrigements (it was obviously said of Communists and war critics during World War I). Indeed, in light of episodes like the Timothy McVeigh bombing and the various attacks on abortion clinics, shouldn't those who want the President to be able to assassinate American "radical clerics" without a trial also support the President's targeting of Americans who advocate extremism or violence from a far right or extremist Christian perspective? What's the principle that allows one but not the other?
In response to these concerns, Admiral Blair said yesterday: "We don't target people for free speech. We target them for taking action that threatens Americans or has resulted in it." But the U.S. Government -- like all governments -- has a long history of viewing "free speech" as a violent threat or even Terrorism. That's why this is exactly the type of question that is typically -- and is intended to be -- resolved by courts, according the citizen due process, not by the President acting alone. That's especially true if the death penalty is to be imposed.
But Obama's presidential assassination policy completely short-circuits that process. It literally makes Barack Obama the judge, jury and executioner even of American citizens. Beyond its specific application, it is yet another step -- a rather major one -- towards abandoning our basic system of checks and balances in the name of Terrorism and War.
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That last point is the most important one here. Atrios wrote the other day that a central prong in the Washington consensus is that "all it takes to nullify the constitution is to call someone a terraist." That's absolutely true, but a close corollary is that merely uttering the word "war" justifies the same thing. That's particularly dangerous given that, by all accounts, this is a so-called "war" that will not end for a generation, if ever. To justify the abridgment or even suspension of the Constitution on the ground of "war" is to advocate serious alterations to our Constitutional framework that are more or less permanent. Several points about that "war" excuse:
First, there's no "war exception" in the Constitution. Even with real wars -- i.e., those involving combat between opposing armies -- the Constitution actually continues to constrain what government officials can do, most stringently as it concerns U.S. citizens. Second, strictly speaking, we're not really "at war," as Congress has merely authorized the use of military force but has not formally or Constitutionally declared war. Even the Bush administration conceded that this is a vital difference when it comes to legal rights. In 2006, the Bush DOJ insisted that the wartime provision of FISA -- allowing the Government to eavesdrop for up to 15 days without a warrant -- didn't apply because Congress only enacted an AUMF, not a declaration of war (click image to enlarge):
The Bush DOJ went on to explain that declarations of war trigger a whole variety of legal effects (such as terminating diplomatic relations and abrogating or suspending treaty obligations) which AUMFs do not trigger (see p. 27). To authorize military force is not to declare war. Finally, the U.S. is fighting numerous undeclared wars, including ones involving military action: given that our "War on Drugs" continues to rage, should the U.S. Government be able to target accused "drug kingpins" for assassination without a trial, the way we attempted to do in Afghanistan? After all, Terrorists blow up airplanes but Drug Kingpins kill our kids!!! The mindset that cheers for unlimited Presidential powers in the name of "war" invariably leads to exactly these sorts of expansions.
Far beyond the specific injustices of assassinating Americans without trials, the real significance, the real danger, is that we continue to be frightened into radically altering our system of government. In Slate yesterday, Dahlia Lithwick encapsulated this problem perfectly; her whole article should be read, but this excerpt is superb:
America has slid back again into its own special brand of terrorism-derangement syndrome. Each time this condition recurs, it presents with more acute and puzzling symptoms. . . .
Moreover, each time Republicans go to their terrorism crazy-place, they go just a little bit farther than they did the last time, so that things that made us feel safe last year make us feel vulnerable today. . . . In short, what was once tough on terror is now soft on terror. And each time the Republicans move their own crazy-place goal posts, the Obama administration moves right along with them. . . .
We're terrified when a terror attack happens, and we're also terrified when it's thwarted. We're terrified when we give terrorists trials, and we're terrified when we warehouse them at Guantanamo without trials. If a terrorist cooperates without being tortured we complain about how much more he would have cooperated if he hadn't been read his rights. No matter how tough we've been on terror, we will never feel safe enough to ask for fewer safeguards. . . .
But here's the paradox: It's not a terrorist's time bomb that's ticking. It's us. Since 9/11, we have become ever more willing to suspend basic protections and more contemptuous of American traditions and institutions. The failed Christmas bombing and its political aftermath have revealed that the terrorists have changed very little in the eight-plus years since the World Trade Center fell. What's changing -- what's slowly ticking its way down to zero -- is our own certainty that we can never be safe enough and our own confidence in the rule of law.
This descent has certainly not reversed itself -- it has not really even slowed -- with the election of a President who repeatedly vowed to reject this mentality. Just consider what Al Gore said in his truly excellent 2006 speech decrying the "Constitutional crisis" under the Bush presdiency:
Can it be true that any president really has such powers under our Constitution?
If the answer is yes, then under the theory by which these acts are committed, are there any acts that can on their face be prohibited?
If the president has the inherent authority to eavesdrop on American citizens without a warrant, imprison American citizens on his own declaration, kidnap and torture, then what can't he do?
Here we are, almost four years later with a new party in power, and the President's top intelligence official announces -- without any real controversy -- that the President claims the power to assassinate American citizens with no charges, no trials, no judicial oversight of any kind. The claimed power isn't "inherent" -- it's based on alleged Congressional approval -- but it's safeguard-free and due-process-free just the same. As Gore asked of less severe policies in 2006, if the President can do that, "then what can't he do?" As long as we stay petrified of the Terrorists and wholly submissive whenever the word "war" is uttered, the answer will continue to be: "nothing." We'll have Presidents now and then who are marginally more restrained than others -- as the current President is marginally more restrained than the prior one -- but what Lithwick calls our "willingness to suspend basic protections and become more contemptuous of American traditions and institutions" will continue unabated.




96 Comments so far
Show AllStalin believed that many Russians threatened the future of the country and the safety of their fellow citizens. So he had them terminated, on his own decision, for what he believed was the good of the country. Many people have believed that a constitution and political system like that of the US would have worked to prevent Stalin from doing so. Apparently they were mistaken.
Well said!
odoco
Something to think about: how many times have you heard those in congress that support corporate control refer to those that don't as 'eco terrorists?'
I seem to remember the same thing was said about teachers and librarians.
But, it's not deprivation of life without due process, if the Preisdent doe it! - NixOn.
Excellent article, excellent points. And that really pretty much sums up where this former democracy of ours has gone - right down the tubes, and in its place we have raised a dictatorship. Willingly.
So many Americans, in poll after poll, think torture is "ok" if used "on terrorists," but yet due to their vapid stupidity it never occurs to them that without due process these individuals haven't even been PROVEN to be terrorists. Yet they think it perfectly ok to deny them due process. The American sheeple don't even see the inherent dangers in starting down the slippery slope of denying habeas corpus, getting rid of due process, allowing unlimited powers to accrue to the Executive with no oversight, etc. Because, in thier vapid little sheeple-minds, "I have nothing to fear, I'm a good American(German). It's only the terrorists that these things will be used on."
Idiocy. I don't know the entire quote, but it goes something like "when they came for the communists, I said nothing, because I wasn't a communist. When they came for the socialists, I said nothing, because I wasn't a socialist....then they came for me, but there was nobody left to stop them." Or something to that effect.
America: we are already well down the road to complete fascism - defined by Mussolini as "corporatism," as it combines corporate and government power for each other's mutual gain; surely the perfect definition of where America is at right now. Allowing the President to now murder citizens whenever and wherever he wishes to without any due process or oversight seems to me to be if not THE final nail, then one of the final nails in our democracy's coffin.
And even as our democracy dies, the majority of the American sheeple sit quietly by without a word, except for the ones who are openly cheering its death.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
It was Martin Niemöller. The quote varies as it was delivered in various ways during several speeches.
Here is an excerpt (from an interview with a German professor in Kronenburg) appearing in Milton Mayer's book, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans:
"Pastor Niemöller spoke for thousands and thousands of men like me when he spoke (too modestly of himself) and said that, when the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but, after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing; and then they attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still, he was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a Churchman, and he did something--but then it was too late."
Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller led a very interesting life, turning from a nationalist supporter to an anti-war pacifist. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller
And see: Martin Niemöller's famous quotation: "First they came for the Communists" at:
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/niem.htm
Gary
"Our people are trying to break the bond set by God. That is human conceit rising against God. In this connection we must warn the Führer, that the adoration frequently bestowed on him is only due to God. Some years ago the Führer objected to having his picture placed on Protestant altars. Today his thoughts are used as a basis not only for political decisions but also for morality and law. He himself is surrounded with the dignity of a priest and even of an intermediary between God and man... We ask that liberty be given to our people to go their way in the future under the sign of the Cross of Christ, in order that our grandsons may not curse their elders on the ground that their elders left them a state on earth that closed to them the Kingdom of God."
-- Martin Niemöller, sermon on behalf of the Confessional Church, July, 1936
-"Here we are, almost four years later with a new party in power, and the President's top intelligence official announces -- without any real controversy -- that the President claims the power to assassinate American citizens with no charges, no trials, no judicial oversight of any kind."
Once again Greenwald does a superb job of showing the criminal Obama regime for what it is. And yet the Democrats still have supporters. Really, what else can be done bring people to their senses?
jlocke is correct. The 'Obama regime' is actually nothing more than a continuation of the Bush/Cheney regime, (which still holds the distinction of being the most lawless regime in American history).
Rather than throw around meaningless phrases like 'the xyz regime' can't we start looking at the issues, instead of wasting time with idiotic finger-pointing and name-calling???
Once we realize that both major parties are nothing but corrupted, corporate-trough feeders infecting both houses of our government and their 35,000+ 'controllers' (corporate lobbyists) who are working hard to subvert our 'democracy' in DC and elsewhere we should start by throwing them out and returning 'America to Of the People, By the People, and For the People.'
sl8ofhand
To paraphrase an old E.F. Hutton TV ad, "When Glenn Greenwald talks, people SHOULD listen".
Greenwald is just incredibly good at what he does.
Jim Shea
Now if al-Awalki were just a corporation his free speech would be protected by SCOTUS.
Gary
“Terrorism is not the only new danger of this era. Another is the administration's argument that because the president is commander in chief, he is the 'sole organ for the nation in foreign affairs' … [which] is refuted by the Constitution's plain language, which empowers Congress to ratify treaties, declare war, fund and regulate military forces, and make laws 'necessary and proper' for the execution of all presidential powers.”
-- George F. Will
He should have created his own corporation. Maybe even Al-Qaeda should incorporate. That could drive the fascists nuts.
- ...strictly speaking, we're not really "at war, -
I disagree.
Does the author ever use the terms 'Vietnam War' and 'Korean War'? Congress did not 'declare war' then, either.
The President has war powers and wields military force and can kill Americans secretly...but we're not at war.
It walks like a duck, etc, but evidently is not a duck.
President Bush: The war on terror...
President Obama: Our war...
G. Greenwald: we're not at war
I suggest that it is in our interests to consider this a war, an insane and DAFT war.
Hmmm. War on drugs, war on poverty, war on obesity, war on teen pregnancy, war on terror, war on the boogey-man.
What BS.
Let's all step back, take a breath and define what is meant by 'war'.
Hobbesian man seems to have the same semantic problems as the Esquimos who have no word for snow. War seems to be the all-purpose baboonish instinct to gang up and flail away at anything we don't like, though this does not cover piracies, sackings and pillagings, which we seem to enjoy for the pure pleasure of it.
Better read "Inuit Snow Terms: How Many and What does it Mean?" by Larry Kaplan:
>>Thus, Eskimo has about as much differentiation as English does for 'snow' at the monolexemic level: snow and flake."<< http://www.uaf.edu/anlc/snow.html
Gary
“Sex is like snow, you never know how many inches you're going to get or how long it will last”
-- unknown
Thanx for the scholarly and entertaining Kaplan link. I stand utterly corrected and grateful for the elucidation. I do feel a certain sadness in the passing of a useful fiction, however. Apart from its objective truth or falsity, the idea that eskimos have no word for snow has been a quick and easy way to express the idea that we don't discern what is ubiquitous. We should ask the Eskimos whether they would mind our continued belief in this harmless anthropological fantasy, given that it functions as a kind of teaching aid to convey a universal epistemological problem which might be otherwise difficult to understand.
[terms 'Vietnam War' and 'Korean War]
In Vietnam and Korea the conflict was with an army that could be identified. It was a conflict that was in a specific region, with a government on the other side with whom negotiations were possible. Such a 'war' is not possible when you fight things like terrorism, or poverty, or drugs, or crime, or other immoralities...
You are fighting, but you are not at war. The war you're fighting is very much like the campaign waged by Don Quixote. Your government is tilting at windmills and claiming that they're slaying fierce dragons. The leadership of the usa has gone beyond the normal boundaries of insanity.
"war" on this... "war" on that... is mostly just news media hype to peddle more of their papers. It also just happens to aid many of our internal enemies in their long campaign to destroy the Republic.
The subversion of the Constitution and the usurpation of Our Bill of Rights are two issues far more pressing than the real, or unreal, threats posed by make believe 'terrorists'.
Barry is a constitution law professor. He knows or should know that killing of US Citizen for free speech or organizing for violence is illegal without a conviction under laws from a jury.
Barry does not care about our laws or constitution. He should be removed from office after impeachment and trial in the Senate.
But, if history is a guide, we can depend that 95 % of the Congress will be reelected by an idiocy of US voters. Therefore, we shall have no "change we can believe in."
Finally the empire is showing its vicious face usually reserved for foreigners to americans as corporations flee the united states for greener pastures and their puppet politicians are forced to deal with the rage and resentment of the people. They can't cut defense or control the banks because they all depend on big money from contractors or bankers. Now that the full implication of the southern takeover of american politics is becoming evident there is little they can do but try to influence the power sects like the 'Family' from within as Obama is trying to do at the prayer breakfast today.
Good article. As long as the middle class America doesn't personally feel affected by war, either by serving in the military, paying for the war through taxes, or by seeing the dead on TV (MSM censors), never-ending war will continue until we meet the same demise as the USSR. The clock is ticking unless we radically change our approach to the world.
Well, there is a bit of a difference between the collapse of the USSR and the potential collapse of the usa. (you might be able to avoid a collapse, I'm not sure it can be done, but it might be possible)
The usa is not led by people who are willing to let go of their power without a fight. Doesn't matter who they're fighting, but fight they will. I don't see any possibility of a mostly peaceful collapse like the Soviets experienced happening in the usa.
No, the usa will not go 'gently into the night', it'll take everyone with them; much like the idiot gunman tries to kill all his enemies before turning the gun on himself as the police arrive...
You are correct. If it happens, it probably won't be pretty.
I would like to know who gets to make the decision as to which American citizens are terrorists and can be targeted for assassination? Whats next: targeting war protestors for being al-quaida sympathizers!
Anwar al-Awlaki was against the war. Just happened to speak out for "the other side."
So if you protest against the war overseas, better wear Kelvar and watch the skies.
Gary
"You never know what's hit you. A gunshot is the perfect way."
-- John F. Kennedy
Yep. After all, they are not on the side of the us gov't are they? Imagine, the audacity of being against killing people, who do they think they are?
Hmmm. War on drugs, war on poverty, war on obesity, war on teen pregnancy, war on terror, war on the boogey-man.
What BS.
Let's all step back, take a breath and define what is meant by 'war'.
For that matter, one should probably be very careful about what they say here. You can be certain it's being monitored.
Bugger that! Have some courage, my friend. After all if you are courageous you can only die once, but the coward who fears death will taste that death a thousand times before its final bite.
No government can jail all of its opponents, nor can any government kill all those who oppose them. They might try, but the costs of jailing half the population would bankrupt the rich, and the cost of killing everyone would mean the country hasn't got soldiers in the future...
They don't have to kill us all, just enough to scare the rest into silent submission. Not hard to do.
It is surreal that we find ourselves in serious public policy discussion over an American President's purported "power to assassinate American citizens with no charges, no trials, no judicial oversight of any kind."
Authority to order the killing of other human beings, arbitrarily or capriciously, perhaps for good reason, for bad reason, or for no reason at all, was universally viewed by those who drafted the Declaration of Independence and later the US Constitution as the hallmark of despotic tyrants. To put it dryly, dispensing death by royal whim or royal decree was not, and is not, among the enumerated powers granted to the executive branch of the federal government.
This excellent essay by Glenn Greenwald (and the passage quoted from Dahlia Lithwick) eerily resemble the first open public discussions of torture as official US government policy, largely in the aftermath of the Abu Ghraib scandal. Glenn is not being tongue-in-cheek when he decries the lack of judicial oversight over a presidential hit list, any more than Alan Dershowitz and some others in legal academe suggested creation of special torture warrants, pre-approved by a judge, as a safeguard against emergence of a lawless torture state.
How macabre.
Here we are, in the early part of the 21st Century, actually debating whether it is better social policy to have secretive death squads beholden to the White House roaming about the land with, or without, a formal seal of prior approval from a guy in a black robe. How sick. Look at how far we have fallen.
Bill from Saginaw
Yes, this development reminded me of the debate in Congress about whether the president could order torture. At the time, you had to take a step back and try to imagine going back a few years and posing the hypothetical question: "Can you imagine a time when we'll discard a fundamental American value -- we don't torture or use targeted assassination -- and debate it in the United States Senate?" It would have seemed impossible. Now our populace is either "ho-hum" about this authority to assassinate Americans, or, even worse, a majority of Americans actually support this, and torture.
And it's almost impossible to believe that Democrats are now racing to jump on the fear-and-torture-and-assassinate bus, as Lithwick notes in her piece. No courage at all, and surely violating their commitment to upholding the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and *domestic.*
We are in a dark place, indeed.
We all live in a Banana Republic now.
Friends and neighbors.......we have well and truly entered the Twilight Zone. And I mean that in every sense of the word(s).
I don't believe any 'terrorist', Bin Laden included, should be given an 'death by assasination' authorization.
The strength of the United States lies in it's ability to determine the reasons behind illegal actions and to stop them from happening in the future.
The only way to do this is by trial and 'hearing'.
This scares the last administration to the point that the KSM trial in NYC will be moved. Bush and the Republican Party want it moved to a military tribunal to hide what the 'terrorists' have to say and to hide what is uncovered about torture, an illegal invasion of Iraq and the reasons for the 9/11 attacks - decades of illegal or immoral actions of the Unites States Government, most notably the support of Israel against a Palestinian homeland - from the American People.
Just wait til a Repug president is in office, like a paranoid McCain or idiotic Palin. They'll have a field day sending out assassination warrants by the truckload.
This is how terror works. We have altered the fabric of what was once a democracy at the genetic level. Torture. Assassination of our own citizens. And all due to one successful attack and a smattering of failed terrorist wannabes who couldn't pull it off, despite the Keystone Cops nature of our Homeland Security.
This is a wet dream for Bin Lauden. We are imploding before his very eyes.
If we can't right this course, we have lost. Whatever that means.
Today it's OK to assassinate Americans in other countries, on the President's say-so. So tomorrow, it will be OK to assassinate us on U.S. territory.
It's tough to see all this happening in front of our eyes, and to see what is obviously coming, and not be able to do anything about it.
How about a FISA court for American terrorists?
A court? That _legitimizes_ assassinations? A court APPOINTED by the President with his hit-list on hand? What a remarkably BAD idea!
Gary
“Despotism tempered by assassination, that is our Magna Carta”
-- unknown
again, why is anyone surprised?
the face of the empire is revealed to the people? the people had chances to see the face and they chose to support that face. they have chosen to support it every time from the spanish-cuban-american war to ww1 to korea to vietnam to the annexation of hawaii to arbenz in guatemala to mossadegh in iran to allende in chile and so on ad infinitum.
the so-called war on terror serves one purpose and one purpose only; to keep "we the people" scared. the threat from terrorists is real but seriously overblown but as an agitprop device it is very effective.
screw it. change we can believe in, my ass.
Meet the new boss,same as the old boss....
"Last week, I wrote about a revelation buried in a Washington Post article by Dana Priest which described how the Obama administration has adopted the Bush policy of targeting selected American citizens for assassination if they are deemed (by the Executive Branch) to be Terrorists. "
How many times has someone commented on the continuation of Bush policies by the Obama administration? Too damn many! Is it not past time for all those Obama loyalists to determine that "change we can believe in" is no change at all?
Apparently, when Americans revolted against the tyranny of the "divine right of kings", they weren't actually rejecting the principle. They just wanted to replace a constitutional monarch with a corporate-annointed one that embodies head-of-state, head-of-government and commander-in-chief powers in a single office.
If George III of England had only known the truth of the matter, his insanity could have prevailed with the complete blessing and support of his USA Incorporated subjects and their 'sheeple' followers.
Sioux Rose
RV: You state that "Apparently when American revolted... " this presumes that ALL Americans today, or a majority, agree with the slow evisceration of civil liberties, and the premise of a unitary executive. How many understand? How far do articles based on Glenn Greenwald's constitutional scholarship reach into major media? Many people have, as this article alleges, been shaped by fear & manufactured terror. Few understand how the constitutional checks and balances work; and fewer still, the degree to which these became disabled during the Bush Junta. Now that they see this smiling, mild-mannered, apparently intelligent president, the illusion of calm has come over the land. There is the sense that instead of a cowboy, a smart, thoughtful law professor is at the controls. So let's not talk about "Americans" as if this definition represents a living fabric of entirely uniform beliefs. Too many in this category also believe in End Times, and that the earth is 6000 years old. On the other hand, those who have SEEN the current legal trainwreck coming have largely been silenced, marginalized, labeled "The crazies," or otherwise. If no one is allowed to scream "fire" in a theater, should the audience be blamed for staying too long in their seats?
American objections to being judged by the company they keep on the basis of the same indiscriminate standards the U.S. applies to condemning other nations to the fires of hell aren't very persuasive. I suppose fate may be somewhat more selective than I in dealing with an audience that persists in a burning theater, but not by much I'm afraid.
Sioux Rose
My point is that by the time they smell evidence of the smoke, it's too late to get out. It may not have been the best metaphor to use...
We are not living in a world of dangerous precedents. We are living in a time of consequences for precedents already taken. We warned about this when Congress (by its silence) ceded extra-judicial powers to Bush and his lunatics eight years ago. Executive despotism became more factual from that moment onward, corrupting "kind-hearted" presidents and empowering the rats that lurk in our future. We talk about unmaking mistakes as though the calamities following from them were not already with us. Bad decisions made in our teens have a death grip on us by the time we grow into dysfunctional adults. If reinstatement of the divine right of kings could not be prevented in 2001, how will we abolish it today now that is has been institutionalized and made part of our culture?
There is a familiar pattern to this idea that we can summon the power to avoid disasters that have already occurred. Nuclear weapons? A bad idea unhesitatingly adopted by Truman and his military. They were out of the bottle and part of global military culture in just a few years, and today, inevitably, just as Einstein predicted, there are thousands of them, in the hands of all kinds of contending parties, and though they will probably be the death of us, nobody seriously contemplates the possibility of getting rid of them. Our only realistic shot at abolishing that evil was in 1945 (if then), and all subsequent talk of putting them away has been just talk.
It is those incipient mistakes we need to avert. Once you've gone through the guardrail the steering wheel doesn't work any more.
Guardrails? Having cast aside constitutional protections, including all treaty and international law obligations embodied therein, not to mention even more fundamental principles like Magna Carta and habeas corpus, it's pretty hard to discern any guardrails left in place anywhere.
Happy motoring!