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Pass the Health Care Bill - Then Improve It
There are many lessons to learn from the health care war that has raged over the past year. We'll get to some of them below. But here's the bottom line: Pass the bill, then improve it.
The health care bill that will emerge from the House-Senate conference committee won't be what most progressives had hoped for, but it is a major, historic turning point in American social reform legislation, comparable to the Social Security Act, the National Labor Relations (Wagner) Act, the Fair Labor Standards (minimum wage/40 hour week) Act, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, the Clean Air Act, and other progressive breakthroughs. None of those laws were what their advocates wanted. They all involved compromises that, at the time, were heart-breaking to activists. Each one was subsequently improved by amendments, although not without reformers doing battle with reactionary opponents.
It is incredibly irresponsible for some radicals and progressives to call for killing the health care bill. It is important to push for changes that would improve the Senate version of the bill. For example, the House funding plan (a tax on families with incomes over $1 million) is much better than the Senate version (a tax on so-called "Cadillac" health insurance plans). That's what the labor movement, liberal and progressive Democrats in Congress, pro-choice advocates, and others will be doing in hopes of putting a better bill on President Obama's desk, as Harold Meyerson discusses in his latest Washington Post column.
But the idea that we should scrap this bill entirely and start from scratch next year is both immoral and impractical. Like taking food out of the mouths of hungry children, killing this bill will hurt tens of millions of real people who are now suffering physically, psychologically, and economically. Moreover, if we don't pass health care reform now, we won't have another chance for at least a decade. Pass it, then, over the next decade or two, fight hard to make it better, in terms of regulating costs, expanding coverage, and increasing government-sponsored insurance.
Even the flawed bill passed by the Senate will improve the lives of tens of millions of Americans. For proof, check out this chart, put together by Jonathan Cohn and Jonathan Gruber (a health care economist at MIT), based on CBO cost estimates of the Senate bill. It shows the health care cost projections for a family of four at different income levels. For example, a family of four earning $60,458 -- 250 percent of the federal poverty line -- would pay an estimated annual premium of $12,042 and an annual out-of-pocket maximum of $12,600 without the legislation (in total, 41 percent of annual income). If the legislation passes, the comparable numbers are $5,797 and $6,300, respectively (or 20 percent of annual income). Families with lower incomes benefit even more. Here's Cohn's article, that explains this in greater detail.
After the Senate passed its version of the health care bill earlier today, Obama said: "This notion that somehow the health care bill that is emerging should be grudgingly accepted by Democrats as half a loaf is simply incorrect. This is nine-tenths of a loaf. And for a family out there that right now doesn't have health insurance, it is a great deal. It's a full loaf for a lot of families who have nothing to fall back on if they get into a medical emergency."
We can differ with Obama on the math -- I'd say the House bill is 3/4 of a loaf and the Senate bill is 2/3 of a loaf -- but he's basically correct about the real human impact. The bill will make life better for most Americans -- those who don't currently have health insurance and those who currently have inadequate health insurance. Every serious progressive health care expert agrees that the bill is a significant step forward -- a stepping stone toward universal health insurance -- although they may differ on some particular issues. The health care experts writing this week in the left-wing The Nation, the progressive American Prospect, and even the barely-liberal New Republic share this view.
Here's what J. Lester Felder writes in The Nation :
"Despite these very serious shortcomings, however, the bill the Senate passed would reduce the number of uninsured Americans by 31 million by 2019. The Medicaid program will be open to new ranks of the country's poorest residents, and the near-poor and middle class will get subsidies to buy insurance. The Senate also advanced some important delivery system reforms that could chart a path towards reining in costs.As disappointed as progressives are with the compromises Democratic leaders made to get this bill through the Senate--and as tempting it is to believe they may have gotten a better deal if they'd pursued a more aggressive strategy--they are on the verge of doing many other lawmakers have tried and failed to do. And if this effort fails, another generation may pass before another chance will come to try again."
Here's what Jacob Hacker, the policy expert and Yale political scientist who is credited with devising the original "public option" plan, wrote in the New Republic :
"Since the first campaign for publicly guaranteed health insurance in the early twentieth century, opportunities for serious health reform have come only rarely and fleetingly. If this opportunity passes, it will be very long before the chance arrives again. Many Americans will be gravely hurt by the delay. The most progressive president of my generation--the generation that came of age in the anti-government shadow of Ronald Reagan--will be handed a crippling loss. The party he leads will be branded as unable to govern...The public option was always a means to an end: real competition for insurers, an alternative for consumers to existing private plans that does not deny needed care or shift risks onto the vulnerable, the ability to provide affordable coverage over time. I thought it was the best means within our political grasp. It lay just beyond that grasp. Yet its demise--in this round--does not diminish the immediate necessity of those larger aims. And even without the public option, the bill that Congress passes and the President signs could move us substantially toward those goals.
As weak as it is in numerous areas, the Senate bill contains three vital reforms. First, it creates a new framework, the "exchange," through which people who lack secure workplace coverage can obtain the same kind of group health insurance that workers in large companies take for granted. Second, it makes available hundreds of billions in federal help to allow people to buy coverage through the exchanges and through an expanded Medicaid program. Third, it places new regulations on private insurers that, if properly enforced, will reduce insurers' ability to discriminate against the sick and to undermine the health security of Americans.
These are signal achievements, and they all would have been politically unthinkable just a few years ago."
Paul Krugman in the New York Times, Ezra Klein in the Washington Post, Paul Starr in the American Prospect, and many others echo versions of these same sentiments.
The bill that eventually winds up on Obama's desk won't be what we'd hoped for a year ago. There will be lots of articles and even some books diagnosing what went wrong and what went right. Some initial thoughts:
1. Lesson #1: We need major campaign finance reform, preferably mandatory "clean money" public financing plan (http://www.publicampaign.org), as an alternative to our current system of legalized bribery.
The biggest obstacle to more progressive reform is our system of campaign finance. The drug companies, insurance companies, the hospital lobby, and the American Medical Assn. have too much political influence because they've spent hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and lobbying -- something I've written a lot about over the past year. The Republican Party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the medical industrial complex, as they've shown during throughout the battle over health care reform. Unfortunately, a handful of moderate Democrats in both Houses are also in the pockets of the health industry lobby - most obviously Senators Max Baucus, Ben Nelson, Mary Landreiu, Blanche Lincoln, and Kent Conrad. And let's not forget one-time-Democrat-now-Independent-who-acts-like-a-Republican Joe Lieberman, whose vanity, hypocrisy, and double-cross should be rewarded by the Democrats by stripping him of his committee chairmanship. Moreover, all people of conscience around the country should unite in defeating Lieberman when he runs for re-election for his Senate seat from Connecticut in 2012. I've written about Lieberman as the "Senator from Aetna" , but he's worse than that.
2. Lesson #2: Kill the undemocratic filibuster rule.
Lefties have been too quick to criticize Obama and the Democratic Party for compromising with the moderate Dems and their sponsors, the insurance industry. The truth is that of the 58 Democrats in the Senate, 53 of them (plus Bernie Sanders, the Independent socialist from Vermont) supported the public option and, later, even more supported the Medicare buy-in proposal (for people 55-64), as a way to create competition with the insurance industry. In a true democracy, 53 votes (out of 100) should be enough to pass a bill. So the second obstacle to real reform is the filibuster rule, which gave the five-member "Baucus Caucus" (who together represent states with 3 percent of the country's total population), and then Lieberman, too much influence.
3. Lesson #3: Grassroots organizing saved health care reform from an early death.
Recall, at the end of the summer, pundits were already writing obituaries for major healthcare reform. Particularly during the August Congressional recess, an epidemic of right-wing anger against Obama and his policy agenda--of which healthcare reform was simply an immediate and convenient target--captivated the media, which reported disruptions at Congressional town hall meetings as though they were an accurate reflection of public opinion rather than a pep rally for extremists, encouraged by Fox News and talk-show jocks. The right-wingers stoked fear and confusion by warning that Obama's "socialized medicine" plan would create "death panels," subsidize illegal immigrants, pay for abortions and force people to drop their current insurance. Republican officials, including Senator Charles Grassley, Senator Jim Demint, and Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele, and conservative pundits Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Betsy McCaughey repeated these myths. And support for the public option tumbled over the summer in response. In June, 62 percent of Americans told Washington Post/ABC pollsters that they favored a public option. By mid-August, support had slipped to 52 percent. Obama's popularly fell, too, as jobs continued to disappear and the administration's proposals to bail out the banks and the auto industry met with right-wing attacks and public skepticism. The death in August of healthcare reform stalwart Senator Ted Kennedy bolstered Baucus' influence as chair of the Senate Finance Committee.
As Marshall Ganz and I wrote in the Washington Post at the end of August , the grassroots momentum from the Obama campaign seemed to be stalled. To the rescue came Health Care for America Now (HCAN), a coalition of unions, community organizations, consumer groups, environmentalists and netroots groups such as MoveOn, that began spearheading the reform campaign since the group was launched in July 2008.
I've written about HCAN's influence elsewhere. Suffice it to say that in late August, seeing defeat on the horizon, HCAN and other reform activists regrouped. They decided to act more like a grassroots movement and less like an interest group. That meant mobilizing voters, focusing attention on the insurance industry, humanizing the battle by giving insurance company victims an opportunity to tell their stories and using creative tactics to generate media attention. They sponsored rallies and protests, including civil disobedience, in cities around the country. They helped focus public attention on the insurance industry's outrageous profits and executive compensation, its abuse of consumers and its outsized political influence. And they warned Democrats not to get duped by the industry's pledges of cooperation.
Public support for the public option recovered after taking a tumble over the summer. In late October, a Washington Post/ABC poll found that 57 percent favored a public insurance option, while 40 percent opposed it. If a public plan were run by the states and available only to those who lack affordable private options, support for it jumped to 76 percent. Under those circumstances, even a majority of Republicans, 56 percent, favored it. That kind of grassroots pressure helped the liberal Democrats in the Congress fight to keep a decent bill alive, even though eventually Lieberman forced the Dems to compromise on the public option and then the Medicare buy-in.
4. Lesson #4: Watchdog the media.
The mainstream media made it very difficult for Obama, the progressive Democrats, and health reform advocates. During the past year, the mainstream media gave right-wing activists a megaphone that gave them a much larger voice than they deserved. The ultra-right -- including the "tea party" lunatics, and reactionary Republicans like Senators Jim DeMint and Charles Grassley, egged on by Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, and their Fox News colleagues -- got much more attention than they should have. As Todd Gitlin and I noted, the media covered the right-wing protests AGAINST health care reform, but barely reported on the protests sponsored by health care reform activists like HCAN.
The mainstream media acted like stenographers, repeating the right wingers' lies about the health care plans, without trying to verify them or put their outrageous statements in context. At the same time, the mainstream media completely shut out the voices of the left wing of the health care debate, the advocates for a single-payer system. With a few exceptions, the media repeated the right wing's lies about Canada's health care system without correcting them, and allowed them to frame the mainstream Democrats' public option plan as "socialism." Trudy Lieberman, the nation's best media critic, has been keeping tabs on the media's misreporting of the health care debate all along. It is worth reading her regular columns and blogs to see how much the media set the public agenda and framed the debate in ways that undermined progressive activists and President Obama.
5. Lesson #5: This isn't just about health care.
Last summer, Republican Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina said out loud what most Republican members of Congress were thinking and plotting. DeMint called the president's health care proposal "D-Day for freedom in America" and said that stopping Obama's plan for health care overhaul could be the president's "Waterloo," a reference to the site of Napoleon's bitter defeat in 1815.
What DeMint meant, and what his Republican colleagues and their allies like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and others intend, is that defeating Obama's health care reform would undermine his presidency, and set the stage for major GOP victories in the 2010 elections and again in 2012, including defeating Obama's re-election bid.
DeMint, a fervent reactionary, is now almost in the mainstream of his party. Over the past 30 years, the Democrats have shifted slightly to the left, but as Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson documented in their book, Off Center, the Republicans in office have moved dramatically to the right. According to political scientists Nolan McCarty, Keith T. Poole, and Howard Rosenthal, there are now very few "moderate" Republicans in either the House or the Senate. Most Republicans in Congress have no interest in bipartisanship or compromise. They simply want to destroy the Democrats and their liberal policy agenda.
They have understood that if the unholy alliance of medical industry muscle, right-wing mob tactics, Republican Party hardline unwillingness to compromise, and a handful of conservative Democrats' obfuscation is able to defeat Obama's health-care proposal, it will write the conservative playbook for blocking other key components of the president's and progessives' agenda -- including action on climate change, immigration reform, marriage equality, a second jolt of economic stimulus, pro-consumer bank reform, and updates to the nation's labor laws. So those progressives, like Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich, who say, "kill the bill" are doing more than dooming tens of millions of Americans to health care hell; they are setting the stage for a Republican resurgence.
Obama has certainly disappointed many progressives on a number of fronts, including the Wall Street bail-outs, the weak foreclosure program, the too timid stimulus plan, and most recently by expanding the war in Afghanistan. What's missing from these criticisms is the failure of progressive forces to mount an effective grassroots movement to push Obama and the Democrats -- and counter the power of big business, the Religious Right, and the NRA. Both grassroots groups (including unions, enviros, community organizing groups, gay rights groups, peace groups, and others) and the Obama administration haven't yet learned how to play the inside-outside strategy game as effectively as they could. Like FDR, Obama's success depends on the existence of a progressive movement that organizes, protests, influences public opinion, lobbies, and keeps the heat on so that the inevitable legislative compromises are stepping stones to further reform. When activists asked FDR to support progressive legislation, he told them, "I agree with you. Now go out and make me do it." Obama has sent the same signals.
The Right understands this. That's why Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Congressmembers King and Issa, and others have been so persistent at attacking SEIU, ACORN, Van Jones, and others. They want to destroy the progressive movement and make it more difficult for Obama to be a successful (and two-term) president.
For example, the Right's persistent attack on ACORN over the past year and a half was effective. ACORN, with a strong constituency in Arkansas, was expected to play an important role in keeping the heat on Senator Blanche Lincoln, a moderate Democrat who seemed to be in bed with the insurance industry. ACORN did some effective grassroots organizing to hold Lincoln accountable, but it was weakened by the Right's attacks, and so busy fighting for its own survival, that it couldn't mount the kind of full-court press on Lincoln that was needed.
The failure of many Democrats, even many liberal Democrats, as well as many liberal funders, to stand up for ACORN when it was under attack made it more difficult to pass health care reform, and to build the kind of progressive grassroots movement that is necessary to pass reform legislation. Their behavior is even more shameful in light of a new report, released this week by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, documenting that the various accusations against the group by Republicans and the right-wing media echo chamber -- especially about alleged "voter fraud" -- are totally bogus. Here are some of the report's key findings:
- There were no instances of individuals who were allegedly registered to vote improperly by ACORN or its employees and who were reported "attempting to vote at the polls." Memorandum from the Congressional Research Service to the House Judiciary Committee, "ACORN Investigations" (December 22, 2009), at 1.
- As of October 2009, there have been 46 reported federal, state, and local investigations concerning ACORN, of which 11 are still pending. "ACORN Investigations," Table 1.
- No instances were identified in which ACORN "violated the terms of federal funding in the last five years." "ACORN Investigations," at 1.
- Recently enacted federal legislation to prohibit funding to ACORN raises significant constitutional concerns. The courts "may have a sufficient basis" to conclude that the legislation "violates the prohibition against bills of attainder." Congressional Research Service, "The Proposed 'Defund ACORN Act' and Related Legislation: Are They Bills of Attainder?" (November 30, 2009), at 25. [A recent court ruling did, in fact, find that the legislation violated the law]
- Concerning recent "sting" operations relating to ACORN, although state laws vary, two relevant states, Maryland and California, "appear to ban private recording of face to face conversations absent the consent of all the participants." Memorandum from the Congressional Research Service to the House Judiciary, "Allegations of Recording Conversations with Various ACORN Affiliated Individuals without Their Consent" (October 9, 2009), at 1.
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Show AllMy new years resolution is to not accept 5% as an answer.....when the other 95% works against that 5%.
passing this health care bill where the pain and bills start immediately but the "good parts" don't start til 2014 is a joke.
Besides Obama already said "this is it" - so if we pass this bill THERE WILL BE NO FIXING IT. Or if there is it'll be the rethugs doing the tinkering....
As I've said my new years resolution is to not accept big piles of stinking Sh*t as candy.....
SO this year is the year when I send Money to the Central Asia Institute(google it)and empower local citizens not the US Army.
And volunteer and donate to the Green Party. Because if we vote Green Party in sufficient numbers that throw the elections away from the corporate whores in the Democratic Party MAYBE they'll turn away from their fascist ways. I doubt it - but at least I won't be supporting criminals.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
mtdon 9:43 absolutely correct
Use the power you have to the utmost, either the Dems go left or they are history.
Take no Prisoners !!!!
All Power to All People !!!!
The author assumes that all of the items in the House Bill will withstand the reconciliation that precedes Obomber's signature.
In view of the serial capitulation that has charcaterized 2009 Obamacare legislation, anybody who believes the progressive aspects of the House Bill will survive reconciliation is eligible for a 20% discount on the oceanfront property in Arizona that I am selling.
One of the Authors main reasons to pass the bill is if we do not it will hurt the "progressive" Obomber.
These yo yos keep holding out the false hope that the rich will be taxed instead of the working middle class for this insurance corporation subsidy. I got money against that false hope.
This Bill has only been going in one direction since day one, down, lets be its death panel and give a kick into the s***can where it belongs with all the other toxic mandates.
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We know Obomber sold out to Pharma on day one and he never put any force behind singlepayer.
Obomber is an amoral demagogue perferably jettisoned,the sooner the better for all citizens, same for the Neocon Democratic party.
One poster analysed the bill as financially destroying Medicare.
We all know about the new Conscription of funds , which I hope will be declared unconstitutional.
And people who fail their physicals will face triple premiums.
Plus one poster relates a previously unmentioned DNA data bank.
We have numerous drivel admonishing progressive to stick the stinky feet in the fire.
This article tells us to stop pressurering.
I guess the victim is always the perpetrater in the Brave New World.
Kill the Bill, and give the people what they want single payer.
Rahm, the israeli, Emmanuel came right out and said there is no reason to accede to liberal's agenda because, in his jaded view, "they have no place to go"
I do not know about you but for me those are traveling shoes words.
Rahm Emmanuel, the Mossad agent minder of Barky Obama.
Mission accomplished. Whether this monstrosity passes or not, meaningful reform will have been staved off for a time. For how long depends on the commitment and energies of the American people.
Yup. This bill will further delay real reform indefinitely because people will quickly learn what a disaster this has been and be leery of politicians' efforts in the future. It will cost many Dems their political careers and rightfully so.
Democrats are famous for their tag line, "We'll fix it later." That is what they said about the Military Commissions Act, FISA, the Patriot Act, and the bank bailout. Can anyone think of one of these things that the Democrats "fixed" since they took office?
The "we'll fix it later" gambit is something the Democrats play in the hopes you will forget to hold them accountable for doing just that once whatever the odious bill is passes. It is easier to defeat it now than to get Congressmen who don't keep or remember their promises to deal with it later.
besides the democrats won't be in power after a few more years...so who'll fix the health care scam then?
the republicans!
and besidess these DLC deomcrats seem to think that the base will re-live the clinton years - sorry we're not falling for that again - you freakin jerkoffs!
the battle lines are drawn....choose wisely!
alan, I couldn't agree with you more. Considering the policies you mentioned and past dem history, people who believe the, "we'll fix it later line" are, (sorry to have to be so blunt) either chumps or shills for the party and need to wake the hell up. They are the same people who now think war and torture under Obama is somehow just and good.
When is 'later'? How will we know when it gets here and who will be in congress then!? The only time we can be sure of is now. The overal benefit to people is minimal and wide open to being reduced by the insurance and pharma companies through devious means. The benefit to those industries for whom the two bills were really crafted is obscene.
So lets argue the voters DO remember this dem. sell-out when next they vote, WHO will be available and reliable to represent US and NOT the industrial interests? Reform of anything will only begin with the reform of EVRYTHING including how people are selected to run for office and how they can be elected INTO office. There must be an understanding that if they don't keep campaign promises politicians will be instantly recalled by the same people who voted them in. Cumbersome perhaps, open to abuse perhaps but we cannot wait 2, 4 or 5 years to hold poiticians to account for messing with our lives. We should have the means to replace dead wood with a Nader, Zinn etc etc albeit for a brief period to get us back on a truly progressive track in a matter of weeks. This current charade is sickening and the notion of a halfaloaf is stupid especially when the pharma/insurance folks are running the bakery.
I have been in health care for 30+ years, both sides of the Atlantic and with all its inherrant problems I can honestly tell you single payer government run health care is the ONLY option.
Happy New Year!
Every time congress 'improves' something the gap between rich and poor widens.
Exactly. You've disclosed the true intent of these staged 'reforms'.
Peter Dreier (again, another "the glass is 3/4 full" dimwit apologist from "The Nation") is part of the problem.
In this turd of an article, he pretends to objectively outline the problem and then tells us to support this over-inflated ballon of toxicity masquerading as "health-care reform" which HE sees as worthwhile because of strategic game-playing.
HOW did we get here?
We arrived at this inauspicious situation exactly because of this kind of stupid "reasoning" - Make more excuses and be kind to democrats because they will not stand up for decency or justice because, if they did, they might not "WIN".
When the pitcher is playing for both teams (as are most of the players), the people who lose are in the bleachers. But hey, the players need more money and you're a fool not to buy a season ticket!
I think the toilets are all backed-up at this "ballfield".
Birdbrain? Not with a posting like this.
"Civis Americanus"
Thank you.
After many years of fascination with birds, I do not use the name "Birdbrain" because I agree with the common human interpretation of what this means.
Rather, it is because the vast majority of birds do not have binocular vision, and thus, they receive into their brains two separate images from either side of their heads and which become, in each instant, a much wider awareness of their surroundings than is possible by we humans.
In essence, it is wishful thinking on my part.
Excellent analogy.
"Pass the Health Care Bill - Then Improve It" As painful has it is for some, lets use logic to see if this statement makes sense.
We got this bill because of of all the lobbying that the special interest groups did. They basically got what they wanted, Now why would the author expect these same interests to suddenly stop their fight against real reform and allow the bill to be improved? If it was not possible to give the people a decent bill now why will it be easier in the future? As far as I can see the corporations influence over our government is only getting stronger with time.
IMHO if anything I can see things getting worse with this bill over time, not better.
And disappointingly Tom Hartman supports this same tortured logic.
That's Thomm, and yes, he's "...on the team". He and others like him are in for a very bad time (and all those lucky corp sponsors). The pain from this one's going to cut deep and he's going to be there, sitting in for "Barak" as a target. And the rage, the rage, the rage...hope it gets real hot on those live calls. I plan to make a couple myself...and to Randy Rhodes...if they want to suck dick for lying animal Dims, best be prepared for some major heat...
Errr, that's Thom, and Randi.
The current so-called HCR is neither 3/4 nor 2/3 of a loaf, it's a single slice of bread with a weevil in it. I totally disagree with the first part of the article.
For some reason the writer added on a second piece about needed reforms and improved processes. Is he suggesting that we should swallow the current failing attempt at HCR because we are (also) saddled with bent campaign financing, the undemocratic Senate filibuster, etc?
One lesson I hope we're finally learning from the feeble efforts of BO and Congress might be that compromise is NOT always a good thing.
Good idea Peter Dreir - let's wait until the Democrats have both Houses of Congress with a filabuster-proof 60/40 margin in the Senate, and the White House. Maybe then we'll create some legislation that is good for the people.
Articles like this ARE the problem with politics in this country.
Improve what Tom? This shit taco is almost exactly what the Big Corps. wanted. You don't think it would ever pass other wise do u? Were in a ONE party state now Fascist/Corp. with two party wings and phony parties for show. Fix this? Do any of us really believe thats possible. The exact opposite will happen it will get far worse. The most obnoxious and hopefully un-Constitutional feature of this horror is the so called Forced Mandate to purchase Private Ins. This is a slippery slope even worse then the awful Wall st. bail outs last winter. Now the Congress and both parties seem to agree its ok to Directly by law Force us to buy the Private products and services they decide we have to have ! This is another step into a developing authoritarian system that has been evolving now for the past 30 yrs. Kill this thing its anti-democratic as hell and nothing more then a HUGE Federal give away to an Industry that is totally ruthless. The Corp. Dems have bait and switched us with all their BS about Change. This is the opposite of Change it's serfdom.
By God SEAGLASS! What you said!! I couldn't have said it that well.
Not to settle the issue, but to refute one idiot, oft-repeated excuse; it will provide healthcare to the currently uninsured. No it won't. It will provide an Insurance Policy, paid for by taxpayers, that will be unusable due to its high deductibles and co-pays. It won't even help in cases of "catastrophic" coverage due to its caps. It's nothing but a conduit of money to the Health Care mafia who have made it abundantly clear over the past few months that they own the whores in Congress. Everyone should call your 3 representatives (2 senators, 1 congressperson) and simply say you'll never again vote for anyone who votes for this train wreck. Then, if they DO vote for it, (for once in you timid little lives) follow thru... vote for a 3rd party.
Does anyone truly believe that the author would be exhorting Americans to support this betrayal if it was proposed by a Republican Congress and Administration.
Blind partisanship is just as vile whether from the right or the left.
The Loon speaks the truth!!
What an incredible dumdass essay. Would the professor please show me any law that has gotten better with time. Hell ninety percent of the law we currently have is not enforced, like the anti trust laws, labor laws, environmental laws. I can think of none that have been improved. How about NAFTA? Now there is a law that could be improved. Like getting the hell rid of it and bringing our factories and jobs back. You Clinton Demo-elitist pricks make me sick. I know how to deal with jerks like you. Get rid of your tenure, pay you minimum wage, bring in B-1-B visa's to compete against you, get rid of your health care and we will only treat you for two thirds of your ensueing heart attack.
Right on! The political gets personal. The only people I hear advocating for ObamaCare are well off liberal academics and professionals who already have theirs.
And even then, they don't dare say its a good bill, only, "Sorry people, this is the best we can do."
Finally, the only reason Dems can claim this bill represents the biggest expansion of social programs in decades is because the Dems have done such a piss poor job since the seventies. Clinton didn't expand the rights of the people instead he carried water for the elite with NAFTA and Welfare Reform.
Hounddog4
EXCELLENT comment!
Loved the part about bring in H1B's to compete with them and removing tenure.
Absolutely.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the "progressive" (sic) Obomber improves this corporate welfare bill when he has Republican majorities in both houses.
Betrayal is one hell of a Christmas gift.
They made NO effort to push progressive ideas in this reform.
They will NEVER improve this bill if it passes.
This was their chance to lead, they failed miserably.
Your threats of a republican resurgence are hollow.
The republicans are a kick in the nuts, the democrats are a stab in the back.
I'm done with that choice.
When we stop being the lessor of two evils, we won't have to chose the lesser of two evils.
INCREMENTALISM DIED WITH OUR DEMOCRACY BECAUSE OF ACADEMICS LIKE THIS MALE. They are the fall-back for the whores in DC to KEEP THE PEOPLE IN THEIR PLACE. This man will make excuses right up until the time YOU and YOUR WIFE and YOUR CHILDREN are herded into the trucks and taken to the Debt-Slave Camps.
El Professor has never missed a meal and very likely, like most "Ed-u-cated" Liberals "don't want them dirty poor people sitting in the waiting room next to them and their nice white wife and children. They might catch something" So we just have to WAIT and WORK HARD and give them Dims even more power so they can REALLY DO A JOB ON US.
NO VOTES FOR ANY DIM - EVER AGAIN - EVER.
Remember this when you see the smiling Overseer and all the Dim Overseers sign this piece of shit that condemns us to Slavery. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US - then they go to the 5 star restaurant with their richfilth friends for a meal that costs $3k.
DIMS ARE DEAD TO US: EFCA, Iraq/Af-Pak, Warrantless Wiretaps, Torture, Bail Outs, and now "Health Care".
They have already chopped MASSIVE funds from Medicare - in preparation for its TOTAL elimination or reduction to a means tested "Welfare" Program (and you know what we do with those). SSI is next, just ask Larry Summers the Overseer's right hand boy.
Larry is rubbing his tummy with glee at the thought of human die back right here at home - a mirror for his accomplishments in Moscow back in '93. ANIMALS. ANIMALS. ANIMALS.
You don't put down a rabid dog because it's guilty.
YOU WANT CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN? SHUT DOWN THIS FUCKING GOV'T BEFORE IT MURDERS YOU.
You rant against the Dems. Okay, mostly I agree but your rant could also be taken to be a thinly veiled pro-Republican diatribe. I hate the Dems too, but I don't like the ReThugs any better.
I ask this question in all honesty, Where were you during the Bush years and did you rant like this against W. If so, I can respect your stand. If not, you are a dishonest ideological hack.
So how bout this MR UPPERCASE: NO MORE VOTES FOR EITHER CORPORATIST PARTY!
In what conceivable way could that post be seen as a support of the Republicans?
Sorry for the tardiness of my reply. First as you say, NO MORE VOTES FOR EITHER CORPORATIST PARTY! Second, "Where was I?" - I was being shot at by SWAT teams 40 years ago. I was there at every Ritual Defamation, False Imprisonment and Extra Judicial Execution back to Medgar Evers - while the White Majority CHEERED every Defamation, every False Imprisonment, and every Extra Judicial Execution.
I was there when Ray-Gun sent your jobs to slave pits, mined the harbors of Nicaragua and organized the Death Squads in El Salvador to highlight his "Morning in America". And White America watched sit-coms and pretended not to notice. I was there then they burned down the BofA over disinvestment in apartheid South Africa. Where was I?
I was there when Billy Boy pulled his zipper and fucked this country raw while he "felt our pain" - and Dims sucked his dick and "stayed loyal to their man". Where was I.
I was there when the monsters from Nixon's Administration wrote the PNAC and then engineered their very own Pearl Harbor - and White America beat their chest and sucked it up through a straw watching an untouched high-rise fall down all by itself.
I've spent, like thousands of Americans, the last 40 years trying to make this country into a society based on Inclusion, a country where everyone gets an equal starting place at the table, a nation where war and the rights of conquest are rejected as beneath us, a place where feral oligarchy is eliminated, a part of our past like barrow mounds and the divine right of kings. Only one problem. White America DEMANDS Exclusion. They demanded it 40 years ago, they demand it today and they'll shoot anybody in the face who argues with them. So now they go to Hell.
Piss on George Bush? For a psychotic he did real good. You have to give him credit. He and Dick didn't put a foot wrong in 8 years, pulled the strings of this Democracy better than any Administration since Johnson and achieved everything they set out to do; war, police state, giveaways to Big Oil and Pharma, tax breaks for the richest of the rich, total degradation of entire legal system up to and including the SCOTUS. They did everything except sink Medicare and SSI and BHO is going to do that for them.
Where was I....taking the slow tour of Hell on Earth. Watching the dream of the possible matched to the ever growing reality of feral bestial cannibals doing their best to carve each other into fillets. Where was I...
Not the only one. Many even who post here have long track records of labor, labor that failed but labor nonetheless.
All I can say is that there were a bunch of truthful clear sighted posts on this.
My compliments to you all.
I agree. I recommend reading these great posts in lieu of the essay.
To pass this bill in hopes it should become some thing it is not, even in many ways the opposite of that it is, is irresponsible.
To pretend that doing so takes the food from babies or leaves poor uncared for that the bill would protect is bad rhetoric at best, and lying if Dreier does not actually believe it.
Either way, Dreier proceeds by false figures and false analogy.
The figures Dreier cites ignore the portion of the population who eat, pay our rent, and educate our children because we do not pay that premium of $12,042 but go without.
There are a lot of us in that category, and someone is disingenuous in neglecting this, if not Dreir himself.
Compromises are fine. This bill is not a compromise.
The difference lies at the heart of Dreir's false analogies:
The Social Security Act did not collect money from the poor and middle class to distribute to a set of private thugs, but provided some funding for the poor from general taxes.
That was progressive legislation, though imperfect, and therefore the opposite of this bill, not analogous.
The National Labor Relations (Wagner) Act and the Fair Labor Standards (minimum wage/40 hour week) Act were not acts to restrict labor--to force all labor to accept full time work or a government equivalent, while providing little or nothing in the nature of limitations to management.
That was progressive legislation, though certainly it did not go far enough. That was a compromise. That was worth supporting.
The Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts did not force African Americans or other minorities to pay into the coffers of the racists who oppressed them. It did provide some legislative basis, however inadequate, to prosecute those who denied them their rights.
These were therefore progressive pieces of legislation that deserved support.
The Clean Air Act did not force those in East Los Angeles or Pasadena, where smog abounds, to underwrite General Motors -- one particular company among those responsible for the smog.
If a decent bill or even an embarrassing but authentic compromise cannot be passed in relatively public debate before a population that is something like 70% in favor of Single Payer health care for another ten years, how much less likely is it that such a bill will be changed for the better by backroom lobbyists and the same lying, money-pandering legislators who are right now selling their sick constituents for campaign moneys and whatever other sweetheart deals they have negotiated in private?
How can people like Dreier and Krugman ignore something so obvious? Congress is not trustworthy. Those who would have us trust Congress are not trustworthy, at least to that extent.
I agree with his last three "lessons," but find that accepting their premises causes me to reject his first.
The comments continue to excel in clarity and truth. Hats off to you.
That this is a compromise or that this can be improved in the future are lies that even a chronic liar like Obama won't tell. It has been left to Obama cronies such as Peter Dreier, the author of this article here, to tell these new, after the fact lies.
It's simple: this is totally anti-progressive and can not possibly be improved at the margins in the future. It will either be largely scrapped or it will be regarded as an abject failure by almost everyone (not the insurance company executives) roughly a decade from now or sooner. Wheras real progressives, to my relief, realize it is an abject failure already.
Dreier is the classic weak-kneed liberal pandering to his fellow elitists, whose bullshit runs through this society like a main circuit cable. From the "Founders" gibberish about participatory democracy (what they created in fact was a polyarchy protecting the wealth of the elite minority against the hoards of the so-called dumbbell majority - which Madison and Hamilton referred to as "the great beast")... to the Wilsonian "progressives" and then on to the neo-liberals who slithered out of the Trilateral Commission in the 70s hellbent on silencing the great strides made in the 60s toward democratic reform... Obama and his corrupt henchmen continue the political theatre with this travesty of healthcare "reform" - as well as about everything else associated with this house slave's administration.
Apparently, the likes of Dreier have swallowed the Kool Aid straight and chant their mantra over and over: "War is peace... Slavery is freedom... Ignorance is strength."
Dreier - sell your crappola elsewhere, like the indoctrination factory you "teach" at.
I'm not even going to read this article.
Shit the big turd then put a bow on it. Great idea.
From The Nation: "Despite these very serious shortcomings, however, the bill the Senate passed would reduce the number of uninsured Americans by 31 million by 2019."
2019???? WE NEED QUALITY HEALTH CARE NOW!!!
Most of the 47 million people who can't afford it now, won't be able to afford health INSURANCE by 2019. MANDATORY INSURANCE does NOT solve the PROBLEMS of INFLATED COSTS in the current system.
THIS BILL IS STUPID and written by IGNORANT people who are completely out of touch with the realities facing MOST Americans!!
I've seen articles comparing this "landmark" legislation to Social Security, but SS didn't require millions of Americans to turn as much as half (yes HALF) of their income over to greedy for-profit corporations.
NO OTHER CORPORATION IS _GUARANTEED_ A PROFIT, SO WHY SHOULD INSURANCE COMPANIES BE ALLOWED TO DO IT??!!!
I am currently unemployed and I am on COBRA, with a 9 month Federal subsidy that is paying 65% of it. The company just informed me that the insurance is changing on January 1 and the premium is increasing. February is the last month I qualify for the Federal subsidy. The HR person told me she had heard a rumor about a six month extension, but she has seen nothing official on that. My payments after February will go up to $773.27 a month for myself and my spouse. That is $9279.24 a year that I'm supposed to "afford" while on UNEMPLOYMENT!
Fortunately my wife has found a state program that will pay a _better_ supplement than the Feds. But if the two ballot measures we're voting on in January are defeated, that money is probably going to go away.
The corporations and the greedy rich, who are the ONLY ones effected by these two tax increases, are spending $million$ on LIES to defeat these measures. (Currently the corporate minimum tax is $10 a year ... a holdover from the 1930s.)
The STUPIDITY of all of this is that a comprehensive Universal Single-payer system would save ALL of us money over the GREEDY, INFLATED PREMIUMS we are paying to the insurance companies ... and every analysis I've read says that PRICES WILL INCREASE WHEN THIS BILL BECOMES LAW! Comprehensive Single-payer would also cover us for ALL needed care ... health, dental, vision, mental health AND long-term care.
Most of the money needed for comprehensive Single-payer is ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM.
I guess one solution would be to move to a country that takes care of ALL people who live there ... America is failing everyone ... not just the "illegal aliens" who have been written out of this bill.
Of course it is a lie and nothing but a corporate handout as are all liberal government programs. Let's consider the facts here. I have been posting comments saying that fighting for government healthcare will just end up with another big corporate handout all year. But progressives and readers of CD thought this wasn't enough of a risk and that this was a good way to help people. Now look at what happened. The fact is I was right. All the comments here are ironic considering you created this bill by pushing for an expansion of government power which is also always an expansion of corporate power. This is your bill, you made it happen, congratulations!
KILL THE BILL! IT SUCKS!
[Among essay author Professor Dreir's credentials: Director of the Urban & Environmental Policy program, at Occidental College.
Obama attended Occidental College, in Los Angeles, from 1979-1981 before transferring to Columbia University, NYC. It is a highly ranked, liberal arts college, founded in the late 1800's. For some reason there is controversy over releasing his Occidental College records.
An interesting description of his time there is in his book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER, primarily who he hung out with there.]
KILL THE BILL! IT SUCKS!
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This is like saying, "Elect Democrats (Obama) and then move them to the left." Ha! Fat chance.
"Whenever we compromised, we lost." the Arch Druid, David Brower
"Pass the Health Care Bill - Then Improve It."
What blatant naivete. This isn't reform -- it never was! -- it's been a God-damned lie from start to finish.
Under the preposterous guise of "health care reform" is yet another giveaway to big corporations and to the ruling class on the backs of the poor and working people.
The greatest inspiration of this cockamamie "reform" is the mandate to BUY INSURANCE as a means of getting more people covered.
What's next? A mandate to BUY FOOD in order to end hunger?!?