Subscribe to Common Dreams News Updates
Most Popular This Week
Popular content
Today's Top News
The Banks Are Not Alright
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. O.K., maybe not literally the worst, but definitely bad. And the contrast between the immense good fortune of a few and the continuing suffering of all too many boded ill for the future.
I’m talking, of course, about the state of the banks.
The lucky few garnered most of the headlines, as many reacted with fury to the spectacle of Goldman Sachs making record profits and paying huge bonuses even as the rest of America, the victim of a slump made on Wall Street, continues to bleed jobs.
But it’s not a simple case of flourishing banks versus ailing workers: banks that are actually in the business of lending, as opposed to trading, are still in trouble. Most notably, Citigroup and Bank of America, which silenced talk of nationalization earlier this year by claiming that they had returned to profitability, are now — you guessed it — back to reporting losses.
Ask the people at Goldman, and they’ll tell you that it’s nobody’s business but their own how much they earn. But as one critic recently put it: “There is no financial institution that exists today that is not the direct or indirect beneficiary of trillions of dollars of taxpayer support for the financial system.” Indeed: Goldman has made a lot of money in its trading operations, but it was only able to stay in that game thanks to policies that put vast amounts of public money at risk, from the bailout of A.I.G. to the guarantees extended to many of Goldman’s bonds.
So who was this thundering bank critic? None other than Lawrence Summers, the Obama administration’s chief economist — and one of the architects of the administration’s bank policy, which up until now has been to go easy on financial institutions and hope that they mend themselves.
Why the change in tone? Administration officials are furious at the way the financial industry, just months after receiving a gigantic taxpayer bailout, is lobbying fiercely against serious reform. But you have to wonder what they expected to happen. They followed a softly, softly policy, providing aid with few strings, back when all of Wall Street was on the ropes; this left them with very little leverage over firms like Goldman that are now, once again, making a lot of money.
But there’s an even bigger problem: while the wheeler-dealer side of the financial industry, a k a trading operations, is highly profitable again, the part of banking that really matters — lending, which fuels investment and job creation — is not. Key banks remain financially weak, and their weakness is hurting the economy as a whole.
You may recall that earlier this year there was a big debate about how to get the banks lending again. Some analysts, myself included, argued that at least some major banks needed a large injection of capital from taxpayers, and that the only way to do this was to temporarily nationalize the most troubled banks. The debate faded out, however, after Citigroup and Bank of America, the banking system’s weakest links, announced surprise profits. All was well, we were told, now that the banks were profitable again.
But a funny thing happened on the way back to a sound banking system: last week both Citi and BofA announced losses in the third quarter. What happened?
Part of the answer is that those earlier profits were in part a figment of the accountants’ imaginations. More broadly, however, we’re looking at payback from the real economy. In the first phase of the crisis, Main Street was punished for Wall Street’s misdeeds; now broad economic distress, especially persistent high unemployment, is leading to big losses on mortgage loans and credit cards.
And here’s the thing: The continuing weakness of many banks is helping to perpetuate that economic distress. Banks remain reluctant to lend, and tight credit, especially for small businesses, stands in the way of the strong recovery we need.
So now what? Mr. Summers still insists that the administration did the right thing: more government provision of capital, he says, would not “have been an availing strategy for solving problems.” Whatever. In any case, as a political matter the moment for radical action on banks has clearly passed.
The main thing for the time being is probably to do as much as possible to support job growth. With luck, this will produce a virtuous circle in which an improving economy strengthens the banks, which then become more willing to lend.
Beyond that, we desperately need to pass effective financial reform. For if we don’t, bankers will soon be taking even bigger risks than they did in the run-up to this crisis. After all, the lesson from the last few months has been very clear: When bankers gamble with other people’s money, it’s heads they win, tails the rest of us lose.
- Posted in




43 Comments so far
Show All"Administration officials are furious at the way the financial industry, just months after receiving a gigantic taxpayer bailout, is lobbying fiercely against serious reform. But you have to wonder what they expected to happen."
Oh yes I did and I'm getting tired of playing cat and mouse with this administration. I can't believe I was naive last year to vote for these kind of crooks. AGG and JenniferB were right and I was wrong. I should have thought about the issues in greater detail. AGG, if you're still here, thank you. Counterpunch is incredibly accurate and I cannot believe that nobody would listen. Politics will never look the same.
I should have also listened last year when I was told to switch to a credit union but I didn't. Right and left, up and down the banks ripped our accounts apart all through the bailout stages and they show no signs of abating. Recently, I canceled my bank account and switched to a credit union. I hope it's better than my last bank account.
Stan, sadly, you are exactly right.
Here's a good video from John Pilger characterizing Obama as a corporate advertising whore --- or as Dylan Ratigan truthfully says, shilling "Corproate Communism" posing as democracy:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/john-pilger-obama-corporate-marketing-creation
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
If I had seen that video back when it aired, I would have dismissed him as a Republican and a racist in my then naive mindset at that time. While I don't share his passion, the more I know everything Obama has done and plans to do, the more he is forcing me to catch up to Pilger's passion. What a difference almost a year makes !
Yes, Stan, what a difference a year makes.
Over this year, hopefully, many in America will make a dramatic shift in their positions. I doubt that many will change as radically as you (and me), but a shift of millions, even if it is less than we have gone through, would go a long way to changing this country.
Last year many were falsely feeling the charade of 'hope' and 'change' -- now almost all are feeling the desperation, frustration, and rage of being fooled and then abused by the fooler-in-chief.
I continue to come back to the comparison with the late 1960's where a fairly broad movement of progressive pre-revolutionary talk and action was launched with a population that was economically stable and relatively satisfied in terms of blue-collar wages and job security, and no overt and shameless Wall Street looting.
By comparison today the general public is already primed and angered with their own economic oppression, homelessness, job loss, and the 'in your face' contempt and arrogance of the ruling-elite stealing our country blind.
In the 60's very few outside SDS even used the term ruling-elite, and only the black minority faced real economic pain. But now all working-class Americans (who I define as anyone who makes more from actually working than from their idle wealth 'unearned' investment income) is really in solidarity with the working-class.
What used to be the stable middle-class white-collar majority in the 60's, who anchored the status-quo of the ruling-elite, are now actually feeling the 'tip of the spear' of Empire's domestic tyranny and economic oppression cutting their own faces.
The sparks of real revolution are much closer and hotter today because the greedy, arrogant, and just plain dumb bastards of the ruling-elite have so **cked-over everyone and pushed all but the uber rich down into the gutters. And now the 'blow-back' is just under the surface; brewing, seething and palpable.
This Empire will fall as sure as the Berlin Wall did. And just like the Berlin Wall, the CIA will be the last to know its coming down.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Krugman asks: So who was this thundering bank critic? None other than Lawrence Summers..
Krugman answers: Why the change in tone? Administration officials are furious at the way the financial industry,...
--------------
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. So wrong.
Summers' fury is fake, Paul.
It's manufactured outrage to convince the public that they're on the our side.
You all but reveal this later in your article when you write: "Mr. Summers still insists that the administration did the right thing".
Manufactured phony balogny outrage to assuage the gullible public.
That part made me think of "biting the hand that feeds you".
But which side is feeding the other?
Sioux Rose
CYGNUS: As usual keen analysis. You have a great BS detector!
Our government made a serious mistake with their last effort to save our economy from complete collapse. They gave trillions of our tax dollars to the top of the ponzi scheme. In other words they gave our money to the crooks. Obviously, the plan to save our ecomomy did not work---that is it didn't work for the people, but it was just dandy for the big boys who are now giving each other million dollar bonuses.
This time 'round we must loan our tax funds to the people who are losing their homes and jobs. Let's attack this systemic problem at the level of the people being harmed by the depression. (we are able to call it that now, aren't we? Anyone think this is a recession? Get real!)
We also need a reintroduction of the WPA and to put Americans to work rebuilding our aging infrastructure and for retrofitting with energy saving technologies.
You also have to take a look at the voting record of your representative in Congress. I think our government is totally corrupt and owned body and soul (if our reps have a soul) by the corporations. If your rep is voting for the interests of the banksters, the health insurance companies and for more profits for the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about----DON'T RE ELECT THAT PERSON. Let's kick the corrupt out of Congress.
Yeah sure. If my Dem. rep. voted for the banks' bailout I'll replace him/her with a Rep. rep. Oh, and vice versa. THAT'll change things! Until there's a 3rd party you might as well just go fishing.
The formation of state banks, such as North Dakota has, would put more local control into the economy. The profit from these banks could be used to reduce taxes and help pay for education. North Dakota has such a track record with their bank. This is banking for the people and not for the rich.
Do you think the public enterprises such as North Dakota's state banks, and non-profit clinics, laboratories, hospitals, libraries, schools, universities, coops, utilities and infrastructure works are acting as effective hosts for capitalist parasites/pathogens?
The Administration is complicit in this. if Anything this was the "deal" even before obama was president.
Paulson - of the bush administration had more conferences with obama during the election than with the bush administration...that's all one needs to know...to "hand over"...
Geithner and Summers and "keep Bernanke"....
all of them fellow-architects with paulson of the Fleecing of America.
OBAMA accepted the Sceptre and Crown...from one Imperial presidency to another...
wars continue, they are provoking iran , have just spread the war from iraq - to afghanistan to pakistan..etc. etc. etc..
bank bailouts...
whose "cup with tea leaves" are we talking about here?
Obama read from a cup that was proferred to him and LIKED what he saw.
PERIOD.
it's all the same Thieving, MEddling, Murderous Gang -- the leaders of the United States of American "industry" of Death, Destruction, MUrder, Exploitation and Lying.
but then --
that's how "america was discovered"
that's how the USA was "born"
that's how the USA was brought up
that's how the USA "matured"
that's WHAT the USA IS.
what's so strange about that?
it's actually worse as an entity than that "alien" in the movies.
in the movies the Alien latches onto a host and gets born from within and then rampages BUT remains loyal to its own brood.
the USA is like the "alien" monster that not ONLY latches onto a host ...
but also cannibalizes its own brood...and "births" enough only to provide more hosts and victims for its "strongest" to eat and consume....foreign or domestic.
other cultures can NOT compare with this kind of viciousness and ruthlesness.
teddy, your post calls for a renewed, invigorated, relentless demand for transparency and truth in all things our government by the American people. At last.
Period! :)
The governments of the US and UK are using the money belonging to us, the hard working people, who have saved for years, in order to keep the banks afloat. I always thought that "Capitalism" was about the survival of the fittest, but no. In this case, the banks are considered to be more important than companies who employ thousands of workers, more important than the ordinary people who vote the politicians into power.
Now we are supporting the banks, keeping them alive, a notion which would not seem so obscene, were it not for the obscene bonuses which the banks are awarding (I was going to say rewarding - ha!) themselves.
We, the public are getting no return for our money, because the "Fat pigs" still have their noses in the trough. They are fattening and satiating their every need with our money.
They have failed once, why have our governments simply bailed them out, and let them get away with it?
Our government is simply failing us in every respect. They are bought off by big money. Intelligence, creativity, and integrity do not guide their policies and decisions. Had the national treasury not been used to prop up dysfunctional banks or make war on innocent people, but instead been used to invest in America and its people, the criminals who got us into this mess would be facing prosecution and the banks would have been broken up into entities that might serve a useful purpose. For the same dollars the government spent on the banks, they could have instead embarked on a "Marshall Plan" designed to revitalize our national infrastructure, shored up Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and made a major impact in transforming our energy use from fossil fuels to renewables. We spend trillions of dollars making war to control oil and gas resources when those dollars would probably be enough to make us energy independent perhaps forever, ending our addiction to war. We have the talent in our country to make intelligent and enlightened choices, but we are so enslaved and disinformed that we can't recognize intelligence from idiocy.... we would rather commit national suicide. Maybe the best thing that could happen to humanity would be if we hurry this process along faster before our treason against life takes all life forms down with us.
Administration officials are furious at the way the financial industry, just months after receiving a gigantic taxpayer bailout, is lobbying fiercely against serious reform.
This is strictly for public consumption, ladies and gentlemen. The Wall Street Walkers from the Grease Factory own . . . O-W-N . . . people like Obama and Summers the way I own a pair of shoes. Want to get reelected? Make it sound like you're "of the people". Politicians are great ham actors and they do "outrage" particularly well.
And then you have the likes of liberals like vanden Heuval swooning over Obama....How anyone can give any authenticity to his health INSURANCE reform after it has even been revealed that he met with insurance and big pharm.... I actually heard some posturing progressive pundit claim that it had been a wise move on Obama's part to meet with these crooks to avoid their opposition. Like trying to appease the crackpot Right, they will always oppose you in principle, so it is scant cover for complicity as referring to forced tribute to the Insurance cartels as "reform" of any kind.
Obama secretly meets with Big Insurance and Pharm to write Healthcare Reform and it is either ignored or considered brilliant strategy, whereas Bush secretly meets with Big oil and he is condemned without reservation?
And these Progressive pundits are the ones who demand that we "make Obama do it"?
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Team Obama just chose another Goldman Sachs errand boy to run the Securities and Exchange Commission. A 29 year-old punk who looks as giddy as junior Joker Timmy Geithner. Krugman is spewing chunks of the Party Line by suggesting that a dearth of small bank lending to small businesses is significantly interfering with an 'economic comeback.' There is far more wrong with the economy than that. We are being subjected to a long glidepath-delayed but inevitable deeper crash. The banks will compound the damage from the second crash by their continued speculation with deregulated derivatives and other instruments. Restoring Glass-Steagall is anathema to the Establishment. Even the few economic press shills who publicly worry over the suffering of the little people (Nocera at the NY Slimes for example) have accepted no Glass-Steagall as business as usual in perpetuity. They want to boil the frogs so slowly they don't realize the sheer scale of the upper-class heist and the DLC complicity with it at every step until the bottom third of income earners are bouillabaisse.
See the banker go splat on the sidewalk. See the banker swinging from the rafters in his garage. See the banker with the .38 barrel stuck between his gold-plated caps. See the banker swinging from the lampost. See the banker crawl on his hands and knees with his pudgy, sticky fingers and dainty manicured fingernails get dirty and torn, while begging for food. It is not what he will get.
Take comfort brothers and sisters: There are 99% of us and 1% of them.
I hope you are trying to be funny but this is not funny, and I take no 'comfort' from talk such as this. It is time to practice principles of Love. If not now, when?
Aw common, why are we still talking about these criminals? Get real, the system is broke. Get it? Broke.
For heaven's sake quit thinking in the box!
We need a new and humane system fast. A new way of being. One where the many do not exist to serve the few.
For all of your own sakes get real soon and fast!
There may be only a few years left to continue following the leaders, sheeple.
Think about it.
Live life on life's terms not theirs.
But first figure out what life's terms are. Then call me in the morning.
Have a great day.
Thanks Doc.
Wildwood, great post. Yes, the system must be broken-down -- the EMPIRE must fall.
Here's a repost of a comment I put on the NYT Caucus Blog "Sunday Breakfast Menu 10/18" this week regarding the phony/jobless 'economic recovery' and the chasm between Wall Street(them) and Main Street(us):
"Its all connected — imperialist wars, economic oppression, health care deprivation, domestic tyranny, and political lying — and its all caused by the same Wealth Empire.
Politically, FDR and JFK (if he lived) tried to actually do something against it —- but not now.
What the ruling-elite corporate/financial Empire that now controls our country should keep in mind is that during the late 1960’s —- during the combined; counter-culture, anti-Vietnam-war, social, class oppression, and racial early spark of a limited revolution in America —- the GINI Coefficient of Income Inequality for the then blue-collar working-class, white collar working/middle-class, and the whole country was a very low, fair, egalitarian, and (by the CIA’s terms non-revolutionary) 0.34 (well within the norm of all advanced European and Japanese societies).
Here’s a great video by Bernie Sanders, and an article by Glen Greenwald, that points to the revolutionarily high GINI inequality today —- and here’s what I posted on Op-Ed News, AlterNet and other principled left sites, along with unprincipled liberal sites like Huffington, —- regarding the massive and revolution-provoking change in the GINI ranking that has been caused by our corrupted two-party ‘Vichy’ government and Wall Street 40 years later to impact over 90% of our population. And 90% of the people KNOW IT.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/143320/the_dow_and_the_down_and_out/?comments=view&cID=1346537#c1346537
This EMPIRE will fall."
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
This is one of Krugman's most disingenuous articles in a long time. He writes, for example:
"All was well, we were told, now that the banks were profitable again.
"But a funny thing happened on the way back to a sound banking system: last week both Citi and BofA announced losses in the third quarter. What happened?
"Part of the answer is that those earlier profits were in part a figment of the accountants’ imaginations. ..."
That figment of the accountants' imaginations was permitted by the guvment specifically to make the banks look good to avoid a run on them by a frightened populace. Toxic mortgage "assets" were made less toxic by authorized bookkeeping legerdemain. Krugman knows this. (For details, see the writings of Michael Hudson and Mike Whitney at Counterpunch.org over the past few months and years. Also Dean Baker elsewhere.) And what "return to a sound banking system"? We haven't had a "sound banking system" at least since repeal of Glass-Steagall under Clinton.
Krugman writes:
"Banks remain reluctant to lend, and tight credit, especially for small businesses, stands in the way of the strong recovery we need."
There can be no "strong recovery" as long as foreclosures remain rampant and more people lose their jobs and purchasing power. As others have observed, the bailout was top-down and left people, on average, one-third poorer than before the collapse.
They cannot reinflate the balloon because it's been torn to shreds. It's all a bunch of hot air.
The banks are still operating because they got trillions of Fed fictional money.
Krugman closes with one of his lamest lines yet:
"When bankers gamble with other people’s money, it’s heads they win, tails the rest of us lose."
Who else's money have they ever gambled with? And it's heads they win/we lose AND it's tails they win/we lose.
There will be no "recovery" and Krugman knows it. The only thing he is right about is the need to create jobs but so far the Obama Administration has been half-assed on that effort, while a Keynesian stimulus of the sort advocated by people like Krugman is now all but impossible because the banks got all the Treasury. History will show that the bailout was a CATASTROPHE for "the rest of us."
-30-
This is one of Krugman's most disingenuous articles in a long time. He writes, for example:
"All was well, we were told, now that the banks were profitable again.
"But a funny thing happened on the way back to a sound banking system: last week both Citi and BofA announced losses in the third quarter. What happened?
"Part of the answer is that those earlier profits were in part a figment of the accountants’ imaginations. ..."
That figment of the accountants' imaginations was permitted by the guvment specifically to make the banks look good to avoid a run on them by a frightened populace. Toxic mortgage "assets" were made less toxic by authorized bookkeeping legerdemain. Krugman knows this. (For details, see the writings of Michael Hudson and Mike Whitney at Counterpunch.org over the past few months and years. Also Dean Baker elsewhere.) And what "return to a sound banking system"? We haven't had a "sound banking system" at least since repeal of Glass-Steagall under Clinton.
Krugman writes:
"Banks remain reluctant to lend, and tight credit, especially for small businesses, stands in the way of the strong recovery we need."
There can be no "strong recovery" as long as foreclosures remain rampant and more people lose their jobs and purchasing power. As others have observed, the bailout was top-down and left people, on average, one-third poorer than before the collapse.
They cannot reinflate the balloon because it's been torn to shreds. It's all a bunch of hot air.
The banks are still operating because they got trillions of Fed fictional money.
Krugman closes with one of his lamest lines yet:
"When bankers gamble with other people’s money, it’s heads they win, tails the rest of us lose."
Who else's money have they ever gambled with? And it's heads they win/we lose AND it's tails they win/we lose.
There will be no "recovery" and Krugman knows it. The only thing he is right about is the need to create jobs but so far the Obama Administration has been half-assed on that effort, while a Keynesian stimulus of the sort advocated by people like Krugman is now all but impossible because the banks got all the Treasury. History will show that the bailout was a CATASTROPHE for "the rest of us."
-30-
Let 'em FAIL....
Let these criminal Banksters go away forever!!!!
These banksters are scum!!!!
Apologies for the double-posting people. I think CD was having communication problems earlier this afternoon. I was told my message didn't go through.
Meanwhile, to EastCoastLefty101...
Scum rises to the top. The actual scum can be identified and, er, skimmed off as it were, but then how do you get to their money? It'd take years and a total revolution.
Krugman is trying to keep up our expectations so the 70 percent of the economy that is consumer driven will somehoe (sic) revive, when the fact is that people just don't have any money. If you think a widowed grandmother's dwindled 401-k isn't important to her grandchildren, you ain't been paying attention. One third of American personal wealth has just been wiped off the books. Think about that. This is far worse than The Great Depression, one immediate reason being that back then we were largely a rural society and a lot of people grew their own food. World War II should be called The Great Compression.
The ultimate issue is Dollar Entropy. You can't get any, and even if you could, it won't buy anything. Why would they want to loan it to you if all you're gonna do is fail? Any take on the commodities markets these days, now that "gold" went over the magic marker?
Maybe it is time to ask, again, what has "intrinsic value." Marx probably had it right (as some business school graduates will recognize): labor!
-30-
Reality.
We got looted.
The crooks got bonuses.
Top 1% owns 95% of everything.
What's on the tube tonight?
Thomas Jefferson said, "If the American people allow their money to be created by the banks, those banks and the corporations which will grow up around them will end up owning everything and the American people will end up homeless on the land their fathers conquered." I may not have this quotation quite exact but you can see how this is coming true.
The banks create the money and rent it to the people. If all the loans were paid off there would be no supply of money to speak of.
The banks create nearly all of the American money supply, as credit money.
John Adams said" Our difficulties are caused not by want of industry or virtue, but by simple ignorance of the nature of coin, credit,and circulation". [I think he would leave out the part about virtue if he were speaking today.]
Le plus change, plus le meme chose.
I can hear people shouting' you can't just print money'. They are repeating just what the banks want them to say. Then the banks go and create credit money to their profit.
If you have not suffered enough it is your God given right to suffer some more until you see take tome to learn about how the money is created.
We slow thinking laboring men have not the smarts to
know if you men of the intelligent middleclass are doing us
right, until after the fact and all the pain sets in.
And so, when are you going to learn that you have not the
smarts to ever know what the super-intelligent super-rich
will do next, to sucker-bait you, and forever entrap you?
For the purpose of this world is to prove the harm in it,
an intelligence dictatorship being the grand scheme of it.
More Paul "Shifty" Krugman Crap ...
Krugman always throws in a few facts then completely dissembles the truth of the matter ...
But don't take just my word for it :
Consider: Krugman on Sick Banks, Bad Policy Choices, and Team Obama’s (Misplaced) Anger ... by Yves Smith
"My big beef is that he didn’t go far enough and is WAAY too forgiving of the motivations and actions of Larry Summers and by extension, Team Obama."
"The other bit is that Krugman sees is that the continued grind of scarce credit on the real economy serves as a feedback loop back to banks. But there is no way to avoid a good bit of deleveraging pain."
"Yves again. Dear readers, do you think the Adminstration’s supposed fury is sincere, or merely playing to the crowd? Actions speak louder than words."
" There was never any intent to have real reform. The Administration has been an absolutely shameless backer of the banksters’ interests (and John Dizard remarked that central banks had gone from being vestal virgins to camp followers, so they are now in good company). It is the industry has become such pigs that they are making a joke of even the bogus reform put forward. They are so confident of their mastery of the gameboard that they are refusing even to go along with token concessions necessary to preserve appearances.
To put it more simply: The Executive Branch does not like being revealed as being a puppet of the banking industry. But it made this Faustian bargain, it has no one else to blame."
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/10/krugman-on-sick-banks-bad-policy-choices-and-team-obamas-misplaced-anger.html
An Old American Proverb:
"“Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked”."
Paul "Shifty" Krugman, Nobel Laureate, Princeton Professor and NYT columnist, doesn't seem to know the difference ...
I agree about Krugman!
Empire USA is ruled by the multinational rich, they have given up on
America and have shipped most of our wealth overseas, they have
destroyed our unions and we are now powerless.
Keeping the people fearful, anxiety driven and insecure is the only
way a capitalist government can achieve submission to authority.
This is what our terrorizing healthcare system is all about.
Surely Paul is one of the bottlenecks to the problem,
as he is preventing people from getting at the full
and perfect truth of who bad is the problem.
Oh, but didn't you hear the news, Paul? The recession's over! In a few months, the jobless rate will go down, and we'll all happily go back to work and buying, our consumer confidence souring and pumping out the exponential growth once more, like good little citizens.
It's morning in America again. Everything is wonderful.
Yes, and pigs fly.
Right now, I am convinced that the American economy is on its way down, heading for somwhere midway in the rankings of all countries' economies.
Yes, there will continue to be a lot of American billionaires and multi-millionaires; after all, most countries have a lot of billionaires (China has about 100) but the number and percentage of Americans in poverty will continue to rise. The percentage unemployed or barely employed will continue to rise. I predict that we will never see numbers as low as 6% unemployed again.
As for me, for example, I have an 8 year old computer, have not enough money to repair it if something should go wrong with it, nor enough money to get another or buy any additional software.
There will be more and more Americans like me in the years ahead.
by the way , regaring the state of the economIES - particularly what we might have to pay attention to globally :
here are a few examples that might also be instructive on where things are going:
10CHINA currently has confidently said:
"we are confident that the 2009 growth target of 8 percent will be exceeded, quite easily..."
BUT the critical thing to remember is: China says that it will not diminish its surge as a production/exporting country ..BUT has added to its growth a INTERNAL domestic development. it is reporting that what has partly allowed its growth despite the global downturn (and of course decline of exports to "first society consumers" such as the USA) was because it REFOCUSED on internal development and that it has basically taken over the losses in exports..so, while it is mandating a curtailment of export-driven industries , "slowing down" to avoid "overproduction" ..the gap it could have produced against growth was easily filled in by the DOMESTIC market through refocusing of investments and industries..- in other words - it is finding a way to BALANCE export and domestic development for its "growth".
it poses to become , in a few months, the world's largest auto maker and market...but already , with an eye towards its overdependence on oil and pollution and the long view, mandating hybrids, electric cars, etc...and is in the process of using 'technology transfer' with JAPAN IF japan wants to be a major marketer for its automobiles in china ..because japan is unveiling (in japan only, for the time being) - the world's largest fleet of new cars that are almost entirely electric , or hybrid.
China had annoucned planes some months ago - that in view of this longerm - part of its "domestic development" rebalancing with its exports - it could mandate the creation of a nationwide "electric grid" for cars to prepare the way.
2) SOUTH KOREA - is now the world's premiere "BIG CONSTRUCTION" country -- by miles, apparently..as a result of decades of emphasizing this - and gaining expertise. they are now about to polish up the last stages - for opening in december - the world's tallest building , in Dubai , a monster of a thing at 168 stories - half a mile high...and MORE plans are already in the works for the middle east to COMPETE with that kind of gigantic height...it is also devoting at least 2 percent of its GDP finance to "green industries" ...an official saying: "we intend to be the world's leading country in creating green industries"...and as an example - is already building a 38 BILLION dollar many, many hectares sized "city" south of the capital to house up to 80,000 people...all of it futuristic and "green" ...including devising new technologies for that purpose ...
with examples being "low wattage computer systems, advanced, low energy lighting, ecologically sound environment, sustainability..etc"...and considered History's LARGEST such project every conceived.
3) Asian Stock markets have "slowed down" but are considered extremely stable - unlike the undependable US and London Stock markets - and a lot of it is from increasing trade between asia and the middle east and south america, and a lot of the growth is based on Regional trade BETWEEN asian nations, and interregional trade between asia/middle east and south america.
4) Brazil, and I think also argentina - reported recently that "before we grew trade with china - our economies were very troubled...things have greatly improved since then".(i'm forgetting which website i read these from...but i also scan the news and media from other regions, like south american newspapers online. government websites...trade websites in those regions, etc).
"Ask the people at Goldman, and they’ll tell you that it’s nobody’s business but their own how much they earn."
That's the whole point: they do not "EARN" anything! "Investment banking" is just a misleading euphemism for insider trading and massive fraud as Matt Taibbi's excellent article has shown:
"On Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, somebody — nobody knows who — made one of the craziest bets Wall Street has ever seen. The mystery figure spent $1.7 million on a series of options, gambling that shares in the venerable investment bank Bear Stearns would lose more than half their value in nine days or less. .... what's even crazier is that the bet paid.
At the close of business that afternoon, Bear Stearns was trading at $62.97. ... whoever made the gamble owned the right to sell huge bundles of Bear stock, at $30 and $25, on or before March 20th. In order for the bet to pay, Bear would have to fall harder and faster than any Wall Street brokerage in history.
The very next day, March 12th, Bear went into free fall.....
by the weekend, it was being knocked to its knees by the Fed and the Treasury, and forced at the barrel of a shotgun to sell itself to JPMorgan Chase (which had been given $29 billion in public money to marry its hunchbacked new bride) at the humiliating price of … $2 a share. Whoever bought those options on March 11th woke up on the morning of March 17th having made 159 times his money, or roughly $270 million..."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/30481512/wall_streets_naked_swindle/1
Taibbi goes on to explain what "naked short selling" is and how it is being used to manipulate share prices and to bring down companies like Bear ..but at the same time he stresses the point, that "short selling" is legal and even benficial...(which I find absurd: one of the cornerstones of civil law is, that you cannot "sell" something that you do not own, let alone sell "phantom shares" that do not exist...
Thanks to the deregulation, globalization and glorification of "innovative"finance (in reality it is more a case of "white collar criminals without borders") fraudulent and insane practices are being accepted as normal business behaviour... this is an extreme case of the naked emperor: he is not only naked, he is extracting zillions from the real economy, a kind of financial Count Dracula..
Krugman: "...the part of banking that really matters — lending, which fuels investment and job creation — is not. Key banks remain financially weak, and their weakness is hurting the economy as a whole."
Another cliché that is no longer viable in my opinion: the prime function of "lending" is no longer investment in real productive industry, let alone job creation - all these billions that constitute "high leverage" were not used to create real physical wealth (or backed by labour) but to bet on derivatives, to inflate asset-prices (for some time) and make these insane "players" rich while the scam lasted..
Q: How could these "financial wizards" promise (and "make" for) their "investors" 20, 30% return when the real economy grew only 1, 2 or 3 %? Where did the money come from? It was created out of thin air... (like the whole "lending" scam > fractional reserve system, see the "Zeitgeist" and "Money as Debt" videos on google)
But even when the Ponzi scheme collapsed, they got trillions to gamble again, to start another bubble...and permission to cook the books "("mark to model")even more...
All those misleading euphemisms ("securities" - that's a laugh!) have been invented to create an aura of prestige, the appearance of respectability and elitist knowledge, even an aristocratic veneer ... to dupe investors and the public..
These guys are not only crooks, they are crazy crooks.. but society has been manipulated into accepting the insane as normal..!
How can anyone "earn" 120 million bucks IN A DAY as Goldman apparently did with their "trading" operations???? (see the Rolling Stone article) - this is better than the theatre of the absurd ... "a fraud wrapped up in a farce"
We need huge changes in our political and social organisation but perhaps one of the most important steps is to tell the public that applied "economic" theory (policy) is not a science, it is a mixture between religious superstition and ideological blindness...(see Alan Greenspan and his "flaw in the model"...!)
Finance / Investment banking does not promote sustainable economic activity,it is chrematistic ("money making") not "oeconomic" ("economy" derives from the Greek oikos which basically means providing a household withe the necessary things for life...)
Aristotle understood that there is a difference in producing for use value and producing for money ad infinitum as an end in itself..
...it should not be part of the proper conduct of human nature .. it is destructive because of the boundlessness of "chrematistic" desire (read: this kind of "economy" fosters never-ending greed...
For Aristotle making obscene profits is essentially perverted behaviour ("against nature")and other philosphers followed in his footsteps ..(Spinoza, (the real)Marx,etc.)
He calls the money-accumulating madness (now known as "banking") a "troublemaker" for the real economy... a theory Hyman Minsky reaffirmed almost 2500 years later...
Thank you for such an excellently instructive, probing post, Tocqueville!
What if the so-called bailout money had gone entirely to 1. current manufacturing facilities who where making noises about going offshore as an incentive to Stay Put and 2. incentives for companies already offshore to come home 3. encouragement for new facilities to break ground and 4. a package deal for small businesses to grow. ??????? As it is there is nothing being done and for unemployment to shrink these things will need to be seriously addressed. Instead of concentrating on wealth creating more wealth which will not stablize the real economy but will certainly make more money for a few, by concentrating on Labor creating wealth there is some chance of recovery, a chance of lower unemployment, of increased productivity and of a more stabilized 'real economy.'
What if the bailout money were given to the lowest income people as ways to buy their mortgages and own their homes free and clear? What if they were given to more working poor so that they could buy homes and own them free and clear? Why not give the foreclosed rental properties and condos to the homeless? Why use the bailout money to give peoples' mortgages to Chase instead?
All these trickle down schemes are designed to keep people cowed and in check. They aren't designed to help us all.
Your comments sound like the comments of A LIBERAL.
Said another way.... Your comments sound logical, intelligent, decent.
As I write this, I can only sigh, and think of how wonderful our country would be if Liberals were truly in power.
(They're not. President Obama and the economic advisors in The Obama Administration are Centrists, not Liberals.)
In order for there to be a liberal there needs to be a conservative. I'm not into being either liberal or conservative. I'm into being in line with what works best and what feels best for all.
"Dr. Krugman, like so many economists of our time, is an inflationist. He, like so many before him, sees easy Credit and the government printing press as the solution to unemployment and other economic problems. And - in our age of electronic “money” and unbounded global finance - there are apparently no longer any bounds to U.S. fiscal and monetary stimulus.
"Messrs. Greenspan and Bernanke are inflationists. The inflationists have been running the show since easy Credit was employed to juice the system after the 1987 stock market crash. The consequences of that bout of policy-induced excess led to a more potent inflationist policymaking elixir in the early-nineties to mop up the financial mess. Since then, ever more emboldened Credit inflation has been required to battle crisis after crisis after crisis. Easy money and Credit – the bane of Capitalism – were allowed to overwhelm the workings of the system. The point of Trillion dollar deficits and zero interest rates has been reached – with the undeterred inflationists now bent on this sorry state of affairs continuing indefinitely."- Doug Noland PrudentBear