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Afghanistan Mission Faces 'Failure' Without More Troops: US Commander
General Stanley McChrystal says more troops and new tactics needed if defeating insurgency is to remain possible
In a blunt assessment of the situation to the US Defense secretary, Robert Gates – a copy of which has been obtained by US newspapers – McChrystal was scathing about corruption within the Afghan government and the tactics used by International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) troops, of which he took command in June.
US General Stanley McChrystal -- the top US and NATO commander in Afghanistan -- has warned President Barack Obama in a confidential report that the war against the Taliban could be lost within a year without more troops. (AFP/File/Manan Vatsyayana) "Failure to provide adequate resources ... risks a longer conflict, greater casualties, higher overall costs and, ultimately, a critical loss of political support," he wrote in a 66-page document, details of which were reported by the Washington Post and the New York Times.
"Any of these risks, in turn, are likely to result in mission failure."
McChrystal wrote that "ISAF requires more forces", mentioning "previously validated, yet unsourced, requirements" – seemingly a reference to a request for 10,000 extra troops made by his predecessor, General David McKiernan.
"Failure to gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum in the near term (next 12 months) – while Afghan security capacity matures – risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible," he warned.
Coupled with this was a requirement for new tactics, like training more NATO troops in local languages so they would be "seen as guests of the Afghan people and their government, not an occupying army".
"Preoccupied with protection of our own forces, we have operated in a manner that distances us – physically and psychologically – from the people we seek to protect ... the insurgents cannot defeat us militarily, but we can defeat ourselves."
McChrystal said NATO forces should spend "as little time as possible in armoured vehicles or behind the walls of forward operating bases", warning that in the short term this meant it was "realistic to expect that Afghan and coalition casualties will increase".
In a series of television interviews broadcast yesterday, the US president, Barack Obama, said he was still considering whether more troops should be sent to Afghanistan.
"I just want to make sure that everybody understands that you don't make decisions about resources before you have the strategy ready," he said on ABC's This Week program.
Obama told NBC's Meet the Press it was a difficult decision to send more US forces into a conflict zone.
"I'm the one who's answerable to their parents if they don't come home," he said. "So I have to ask some very hard questions any time I send our troops in."
NATO sources told the Guardian last week that any extra troops for Afghanistan would have to come from the UK or other European nations because the US military remained heavily committed in Iraq.
"The Germans have more capacity, as do the French, the Italians and the United Kingdom," one NATO source said.
In his report, McChrystal warned that a combination of muddled NATO tactics and corruption within Afghanistan's government and officialdom had left Afghans "reluctant to align with us against the insurgents".
"The weakness of state institutions, malign actions of powerbrokers, widespread corruption and abuse of power by various officials, and ISAF's own errors have given Afghans little reason to support their government.
"Afghan social, political, economic, and cultural affairs are complex and poorly understood.
"ISAF does not sufficiently appreciate the dynamics in local communities, nor how the insurgency, corruption, incompetent officials, powerbrokers and criminality all combine to affect the Afghan population."
In a separate section, he warned that the Afghan prison system had been turned into "a sanctuary and base" for insurgents to plan and to recruit among criminals.
He identified three main insurgent groups, saying they were "clearly supported from Pakistan".
"The insurgents control or contest a significant portion of the country, although it is difficult to assess precisely how much due to a lack of ISAF presence."
Senior Afghan police officials told the Associated Press more troops could make things worse. "It is very hard for local people to accept any foreigners who come to our country and say they are fighting for our freedom," said General Azizudin Wardak, the police chief in Paktia province.
"To give the idea that they are not invaders, that they are not occupiers, is very difficult."
Mohammad Pashtun, who heads the criminal investigation unit in southern Kandahar, the Taliban's heartland, said the money would be better off going to Afghan forces.
"Increasing international troops is not useful," he said. "For the expense of one American soldier, we can pay for 15 Afghan soldiers or police."
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Show AllMcChrystal apparently believes that adding more troops into Afghanistan will then enable the US and NATO forces, to recall that infamous phrase from the Vietnam era, to see the light at the end of the tunnel. But McChrystal seems to have forgotten the lesson of the Vietnam conflict and that is that a third world country like Vietnam will keep fighting until the invading forces have been driven from their soil. As the Taliban leader said a few days ago, Afghanistan had repelled Alexander the Great, the British [twice] and the Russians. The same fate will await the United States as the Afghans, like the Vietnamese, will never rest until the imperial armies are finally kicked out of their country.
What a strategy!
To be able to say "I am not an invader in Pastu" Brilliant!
Or look at me ! The person who incinderated your children yesterday, I am now a soft target, love me.
Oh by the way where can I kidnapp a child to pimp out in Kabul?
"So sorry we dropped that 500 pound bomb on your wedding festivities, but one of your guests once expressed sympathy for the Taliban. We think we got him. He's probably here in this mass of red snot that used to be human beings." Well, tally-ho!! Keep up the good spirits."
{ correction softer target }
As soon as some fool thought to attack the sovereign nation of Afghanistan FAILURE was inevitable--we knew and approved that course for the Soviets not that many years ago--These CHICKEN-HAWKS along we these so called astute generals(morons) will only cause our defeat in a longer unobtainable occupation--Please let me hear what a victory will look like--will it be an indestructible pipe line, a submissive populace,or a new Zionist state--please tell me what a victory will look like that involves the murdering, and destruction of so many soldiers and families--Please God stop these aggressors now.
More U.S. troops = more targets for Afghan freedom fighters and patriots.
Yes.
And that is indeed what they are "Afghan freedom fighters and patriots."
But we cannot say that about American troops who are emissaries of imperialism, agents of state terror and fascist representatives of American finance capital.
Sadly, that makes choosing sides all too easy.
–(Jill Bains)
What McChrystal ISN'T saying is that with more troops it will be a failure also. Just with more dead American soldiers and Afghan civilians.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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For one American soldier we can hire 15 Afghan police...
For one American contractor we can here 1500 Afghan police who don't have perverted parties!
"Afghanistan Mission Faces 'Failure' Without More Troops."
General McCrystal signed a document knowing it was a lie. The document indicated that Pat Tillman, the NFL player, was killed by hostile fire according to NPR. NPR indicated that the next day McCrystal received his third Star. Does anyone believe this man?
"Afghanistan Mission Faces 'Failure' Without More Troops: US Commander"
so, please...fail, already...
genicon
Failure for who?
The military?
The private contractors?
War profiteers?
Precisely.
That is the problem. When they say failure they do not mean failure for anyone else but them. Good question: failure for whom!
"To give the idea that they are not invaders, that they are not occupiers, is very difficult."
To give the idea that the sky is NOT blue, that water is NOT wet, is indeed very difficult.
The above quote would have been an honest one if it would have ended with,it is a lie, but of course,the truth is nowhere in their vocabulary!
more NATO troops . . . "seen as guests of the Afghan people and their government, not an occupying army".
LOL! ROTFL! What bilge! Of course, Obama will go along because he doesn't want to be portrayed as a pussy and a guttersnipe by the Rejugulars. LBJ redux. If Darkchrystal wants 40,000 troops, Obama will give him 39,000 and say he stood up to the generals. Someone start planning the Afghanistan Memorial where the names of all those who died for nothing will be on display.
Maybe I'll have some T-shirts printed up... "Die for nothing. Enlist today.
Reprise Seymour Chwast's poster from 'Nam daze:
War is good business
Invest your son
I'm pretty sure you all heard of the show "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?". Well the U.S. government is playing it's own grimmer version of the game called "Are you smarter than the Commies?". Let me explain.
The USSR spent almost exactly 10 years figuring out they couldn't win in Afghanistan. This October 7 will be the 8th anniversary of the U.S.s own version of an Afghany butt whoopin'.
So if the U.S. is still in Afghanistan on October 8, 2011, it'll mean that U.S. really isn't "Smarter than the Commies".
Afghanistan Mission Faces Bigger 'Failure' With More Troops
The author notes that the Taliban, (any who oppose us), which controls over half of Afghanistan, are supported by elements within Pakistan; the ISI.
And WHY the eff are we there? A poster above touched on it. What force drives us?
Because we are attacking Islam. For Israel.
We are in Afghanistan because of Zionists in the US govt. Pure & simple. As PNAC et al drove us into Iraq. As insane McCain the ZioCheerleader wants more US troops in AfPak now.
World peace needs a fair 2-state solution forced down the throats of all. Yesterday. Shalom and Peace and Rainbows soon.
Removed by author.
Yeah, the great military bailout.
Well, you know, the military is too big to fail.
Anything else in the United States that needs bailing out?
(From the dictionary:
Bail:
used with 'out': to extricate someone from a difficult situation.)
Also: pump water from a sinking ship.
Then you've got yourself a failure, General McCrazy.
Afghan mission does not face failure, it has failed! Additional troops will only get more of our brave and patriotic soldiers killed, who mean right, but have been misappropriated, by the American quislings that are cheerleaders for this war.
Does anyone recall a few months back Rachel Maddow had a retired general on her show? She interviewed him about Afganistan, the mission, etc. standard topics.
Unfortunately for her, he veered off the responders script. He put it bluntly - the US being in Afganistan has nothing to do with AlQaeda, Taliban, 911, etc. It has everything to do with keeping Pakistan nukes in check.
Thoughts?
She's an ardent Zionist. Gaza? Rockets she explained.
Geez. My post was about what the retired general said, not Rachel Maddow. Talk about missing the point.
Kane, pardon me. You are quite correct. I do humbly submit that w/o tv for ages I lack the perspective you must enjoy with daily dosages to help you think-you get that point? Here is another one, ANY conversation by a news analyst who is a brutish Zionist as she is, discussing the Middle East will be defined, contexted, ecouraged to veer or not veer as a function of that political orientation. If you think that misses any point, watch more tv. re the ME Maddow is skewed. Again, I wouldn't own a tv even if it meant I could then relate to you, is FOX better that MSNBC? Oh tell me, whose your fave?
Pakistan's 200 nuclear weapons and 167 million Muslims? The ISI?
Jeeve's, get the car, and ask Rachel to explain the end-game to you, from her perspective. Ya Got the point kid?
No.
Every general wants war.
I have a simple solution. Label it a victory; pull out the troops.
Washington and the press have had no problems to date re-labeling things. You simply slap a new name on whatever it is (the old "War is Peace," "Black is White," "Truth are Lies," "the surge worked," "Reagonomics was a success," "the recession is over," tactic) and you're good to go. Repeat three times -- done.
There are insurgencies all over the world. We generally don't get involved. The real failure was going there in the first place. In other words, a failed concept cannot succeed no matter how well executed.
hamster, the insurgencies all over the world you mention are usually fighting us. More than any other country or factor. And an insurgent is a 3rd world fighter resisting foreign occupation/subversion, directly or via co-opted locals. Like Kharzai, Zardari, the oil-Shieks, the Iraq stooge. Always surrounded by US guns.
Our Generals are most involved.
peace.
rainbows.
and dammit too.
Examples of what I was talking about: Sri Lanka, Congo, Sudan, Chechnya, Northern Ireland, East Timor, Rwanda. Not really about us.
The places we do get involved and stick our noses into aren't really about us, either-- until we get there-- then the insurgents show up to drive us out.
The DOD and other US authorities are victims of circular reasoning: you go in without reason, an "insurgency" shows up, and then you have to "defeat" said insurgency.
"Failure to provide adequate resources ... risks a longer conflict, greater casualties, higher overall costs and, ultimately, a critical loss of political support,"
Seems to me we heard all this before...1970s .... another time another General same script and flag drapped coffins, dead civilians. Oh and a boat load more money. How odd that the same folks who are screaming about how we should pay for universal care the people needs didn't ask how we were to pay for wars only the weapons manufacturers need. You know, I fear that in the years to come we will still be commenting on this war and the fact we STILL don't have universal health care worth the name.
Through-out this debate- and take for example Ashbrook's "On Point" this morning which even included Daniel Elsburg- there as been a complete failure to identify how this war serves our National Interest except in the vaguest terms, which DO NOT INCLUDE the collection of any substantial revenue. Our adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan have done nothing but cost us money- trillions! They somehow secure future supplies of oil is TOTALLY SPECULATIVE. That they are keeping the current price of oil down TOTALLY ABSURD. That they protect us from domestic terrorism idiotic!
What are we left with then as some sort of utilitarian justification for this expense of blood and treasure?
Congress as made no attempt to define the goals of these wars in an objective sense. In fact, it doesn't even really question or debate the mere strategies and tactics of the whole mess. Hearings have been prefunctory at best. The President hmself refuses to step up to the plate. The generals are floundering and every concievable sort of sophistry spreads over the media like the plague.
This is totally unacceptable.
I think this is a point that should be stressed over and over and over again- what do our leaders think these wars accomplish for the American people? What do they expect to gain FOR US? How are they planning to cover the costs of these wars besides putting heavier and heavier burdens of taxes on the Ametican people-rich and poor alike!
Forget Karzai, the Taliban, Pakistan, the Region- tell us what these wars DO FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?!
Wars make money for the only "American people" who matter: the elites. The rest of us are just work units, cannon fodder, and other disposables. Kleenexes on legs, use and discard.
Afghanistan Mission Faces 'Failure' Without More Troops: US Commander
It's the pentagon's way of blaming the unavoidable "failure" on the administration. Hey we said we needed more troops and the politicians didn't give them to us. Just like in Viet Nam.
Don't ya all know that the military is too mighty to FAIL!
HA! HA!
OYE
I wonder what McCrystal would think about sending more troops to Afghanistan if he were a civilian and had a son in the military who could end up in that all sand and no beach hellhole?
The military brass always thinks more resources, more troops, more countries participating, more airfields, more compounds, more everything will ensure victory.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
The generals in Afgh and Iraq are really not the problem. They will always ask for what they need to accomplish their "mission"-- i.e. whatever they are told. It's the people making the orders that are the problem: the Department of Defense (Gates), the Congress for not guiding the process, and ultimately the President.
Dennis Kucinich is STILL TRYING; although he's talking to a government with their ears stuffed with Defense Contracting money, so how can they hear him?!
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/46240
Westmoreland had the same delusions and kept asking for more and more troops until they hit a peak of 750,000 in 1970. The end result in Afghanistan will be the same: DEFEAT.
The Afghanization like Vietnamization is farce built on a phantom Afghan army that is on the pay books but in reality does not exist or works for the resistance. There are daily instances of Afghan "soldiers" selling their weapons to the Taliban.
Hamid Karzai and his fraudulent "election" by stuffing ballot boxes has not helped matters much either as his writ barely goes beyond the Chil-Satoon palace in North Kabul where he is bunkered down under US protection.
This Afghan war is unwinnable and absurd. This whole Afghanistan fiasco is going to get worse and keep on draining US resources. The Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan have been around from the time of Alexander and beyond. Just read Herodotus's account of the problems the Greeks to face against the martial Pashtuns, followed by Persians, British, USSR and now NATO.
Afghanistan is wisely known as the GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES. The USSR had over 250,000 troops at its peak involvement from 1984-89 and most were Farsi (Dari) speaking Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kazakhs and Caucasian Muslims who understood Afghan culture much better. The USSR also had a much tougher military and less public scrutiny. The end result was tthe same:DEFEAT.
The US and NATO are just wasting lives and dwindling financial resources to merely postpone the inevitable DEFEAT. The warliike nationalistic tribal Pashtuns will still be around till eternity long after the US and NATO leave . Even a face saving pyrrhic "victories" simply won't work in Afghanistan.
NATO needs to leave NOW and save the lives of its soldiers who are dying for a totally lost cause which has no public support in Europe. Warnings about time running out are are just an excuse for delay on the road to ultimate defeat.
If the Taliban 'win' do they get to lynch the American president and force Shariah law on the people?
Is this what our Christo-Corporate jingos have gotten us into?
yeah sure, they will fly over on their majic carpet! All of this Islamophobia is part of the neo-con brainwash con job to keep us paranoid and scared.
The Afghans will go back to tribal fuedalism and the regional players, India, Pakistan, Iran and Russia will just keep on manipulating them by horsetrading and alliances. US does not have clue on how to manage ancient civilizations.