Interrogation Memos Detail Harsh Tactics by the CIA
WASHINGTON - The Justice Department on Thursday made public detailed memos describing brutal interrogation techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency, as President Obama sought to reassure the agency that the C.I.A. operatives involved would not be prosecuted.
In dozens of pages of dispassionate legal prose, the methods approved by the Bush administration for extracting information from senior operatives of Al Qaeda are spelled out in careful detail - like keeping detainees awake for up to 11 straight days, placing them in a dark, cramped box or putting insects into the box to exploit their fears.
The interrogation methods were authorized beginning in 2002, and some were used as late as 2005 in the C.I.A.'s secret overseas prisons. The techniques were among the Bush administration's most closely guarded secrets, and the documents released Thursday afternoon were the most comprehensive public accounting to date of the program.
Some senior Obama administration officials, including Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., have labeled one of the 14 approved techniques, waterboarding, illegal torture. The United States prosecuted some Japanese interrogators at war crimes trials after World War II for waterboarding and other methods detailed in the memos.
The release of the documents came after a bitter debate that divided the Obama administration, with the C.I.A. opposing the Justice Department's proposal to air the details of the agency's long-secret program. Fueling the urgency of the discussion was Thursday's court deadline in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union, which had sued the government for the release of the Justice Department memos.
Together, the four memos give an extraordinarily detailed account of the C.I.A.'s methods and the Justice Department's long struggle, in the face of graphic descriptions of brutal tactics, to square them with international and domestic law. Passages describing forced nudity, the slamming of detainees into walls, prolonged sleep deprivation and the dousing of detainees with water as cold as 41 degrees alternate with elaborate legal arguments concerning the international Convention Against Torture.
The documents were released with minimal redactions, indicating that President Obama sided against current and former C.I.A. officials who for weeks had pressed the White House to withhold details about specific interrogation techniques. Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, had argued that revealing such information set a dangerous precedent for future disclosures of intelligence sources and methods.
A more pressing concern for the C.I.A. is that the revelations may give new momentum to proposals for a full-blown investigation into Bush administration counterterrorism programs and possible torture prosecutions.
Within minutes of the release of the memos, Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said that the memos illustrated the need for his proposed independent commission of inquiry, which would offer immunity in return for candid testimony.
Mr. Obama condemned what he called a "dark and painful chapter in our history" and said that the interrogation techniques would never be used again. But he also repeated his opposition to a lengthy inquiry into the program, saying that "nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
Mr. Obama said that C.I.A. officers who were acting on the Justice Department's legal advice would not be prosecuted, but he left open the possibility that anyone who acted without legal authorization could still face criminal penalties. He did not address whether lawyers who authorized the use of the interrogation techniques should face some kind of penalty.
The four legal opinions, released in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the A.C.L.U., were written in 2002 and 2005 by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, the highest authority in interpreting the law in the executive branch.
The first of the memos, from August 2002, was signed by Jay S. Bybee, who oversaw the Office of Legal Counsel, and gave the C.I.A. its first detailed legal approval for waterboarding and other harsh treatment. Three others, signed by Steven G. Bradbury, sought to reassure the agency in May 2005 that its methods were still legal, even when multiple methods were used in combination, and despite the prohibition in international law against "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment.
All legal opinions on interrogation were revoked by Mr. Obama on his second day in office, when he also outlawed harsh interrogations and ordered the C.I.A.'s secret prisons closed.
In the memos, the Justice Department authors emphasized precautions the C.I.A. proposed to take, including monitoring by medical personnel, and the urgency of getting information to stop terrorist attacks. They recounted the C.I.A.'s assertions of the effectiveness of the techniques but noted that interrogators could not always tell a prisoner who was withholding information from one who had no more information to offer.
The memos include what in effect are lengthy excerpts from the agency's interrogation manual, laying out with precision how each method was to be used. Waterboarding, for example, involved strapping a prisoner to a gurney inclined at an angle of "10 to 15 degrees" and pouring water over a cloth covering his nose and mouth "from a height of approximately 6 to 18 inches" for no more than 40 seconds at a time.
But a footnote to a 2005 memo made it clear that the rules were not always followed. Waterboarding was used "with far greater frequency than initially indicated" and with "large volumes of water" rather than the small quantities in the rules, one memo says, citing a 2004 report by the C.I.A.'s inspector general.
Most of the methods have been previously described in news accounts and in a 2006 report of the International Committee of the Red Cross, which interviewed 14 detainees. But one previously unknown tactic the C.I.A. proposed - but never used - against Abu Zubaydah, a terrorist operative, involved exploiting what was thought to be his fear of insects.
"As we understand it, you plan to inform Zubaydah that you are going to place a stinging insect into the box, but you will actually place a harmless insect in the box, such as a caterpillar," one memo says.
Mr. Bybee, Mr. Bradbury and John Yoo, who was the leading author of the 2002 interrogation memos, are the subjects of an investigation by the Justice Department's ethics office about their legal analysis on interrogation. Officials have described the draft ethics report, by the Office of Professional Responsibility, as highly critical, but its completion has been delayed to allow the subjects a chance to respond.
The A.C.L.U. said the memos clearly describe criminal conduct and underscore the need to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate who authorized and carried out torture.
But Dennis C. Blair, the director of national intelligence, cautioned that the memos were written at a time when C.I.A. officers were frantically working to prevent a repeat of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
"Those methods, read on a bright, sunny, safe day in April 2009, appear graphic and disturbing," said Mr. Blair in a written statement. "But we will absolutely defend those who relied on these memos."
Charlie Savage contributed reporting.
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49 Comments so far
Show AllThe CIA is just a bunch of patriotic, hard-working fellas, trying to protect us.
"Mr. Obama condemned what he called a "dark and painful chapter in our history" and said that the interrogation techniques would never be used again."
And how would we know that? What transparent and civilian-run measures are in place to make sure that torture is never spun into acceptance by the ruling elite? What is Obama doing and what has he said he would do that guarantees anyone would even be aware that these tactics are not to be used?
From where I sit it appears that our new "Change and Hope" guy has made the secrecy surrounding such action even more tight, so perhaps the quote should read: Mr. Obama condemned what he called a "dark and painful chapter of our history that no one should have ever known about" and said that the interrogation techniques would never happen in a place or without heavily guarded secerecy that anyone would know about them again.
Oh well.... the advertising campaign for the guy still goes well. And that's all that matters.
No wonder he denounced he former minsiter and moved to the right religiously... his former pastor would have called him on such dishonesty.
what, all you employed people out there afraid to use a day of sick leave. saving it to tail-end a vacation or holiday? actually, a sick-out day followed by a no-spend day would certainly set some ears to the table.
with all the pissing and moaning here about obama, it's surprising that no one has commended him for even getting the memos out, and then high-tailing it out of town. this one's far from over. i think he knows that.
Hey CD, could You get the graphic any smaller? It is still possible
to guess what is depicted there.
In today's economy, many cannot afford a sick-out. A NO BUY DAY, OR TWO OR A WEEK IS DO-ABLE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY. Let's stop whining and yapping and get something done....it's totally passive and NO ONE but profiteers are hurt..............
make it so and send it VIRAL....
WHO'S IN??????????????????????
Consumer boycott - the only effective instrument to bring about
what people really want. I am 'in' it since more than eight years.
Well, everyne involved in torture-from the White House lawyers like John Yoo-to the "low-hanging fruit" like Lynndie England-can relax. They haven't been in any danger of being prosecuted for the past eight years-and they'rwe still in no danger of being prosecuted. They can sleep like babies! Heckuva job!
"John Yoo ... the subjects of an investigation by the Justice Department's ethics office"
You mean John Yoo, a HIGHLY sought-after member of the UC Berkeley faculty. Sought by students for his experience and insights from the hallowed empire control bay. These students have a right to liberal nirvana! Seize the prosecutor!
"frantically working to prevent a repeat of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks"
Hilarious! The CIA is the churner of terror butter and the cultivator of terror cheese. Wow, the abuse of the language. Masters of abuse in the media. Masters of death in the government. Bats in the USA'a belfry. As the USA slides into fascism, what to make of the CIA?
It has long been known that antisocial personality disorder is overrepresented in law enforcement and military circles. People with sadistic impulses and little compassion or capacity for remorse seek out positions where they can, under color of authority, inflict cruelty on others.
The law is intended to act as a restraint on these tendencies, and fear of certain prosecution and long incarceration can generally deter abuses. However, if our president unilaterally abolishes numerous statutes, treaties and court decisions, there is no restraint. He issues a directive ostensibly banning torture, but then, wink-wink-nod-nod, nobody will be punished.
The adjectives spineless, devious, craven, quisling, weaselly and duplicitous come to mind to describe our president, attorney general and CIA director.
I like the art work. Imagine the spiritual joy of the artist as he or she created those graphics.
Joe
How about withholding the grea$e that keeps all this moving?
Maybe by next Monday team Obama will try to move on. But I think this one has tipped the scales. The GOVERNMENT is U$. Team Obama is accountable to U$. If the roar is loud enough, long enough, they cannot ignore us. We do not move on until there is accountability. Become broken records, over and over and over until we get justice.
Someone has suggested a sick day. Europeans show us sick-outs can have impact. But, a problem is so many are not in a position to financially harm themselves to make a point.
We could try a SPEND NOT day. Most of us are rearranging our budgets already. Withholding our money for one day should get their attention. Plan ahead and this one could be done. Can we be creative and begin to work together as citizens who do not condone torture. If not now, when? If not us, who?
As others have said, it is time to move beyond the discussions, imploring, and yes, whining and get to work demanding change from our government and wall street.
Several high profile democrats (ahem Nancy Pelosi) are in cahoots with the torture team. Obama is protecting his party at the expense of justice.
Obama is wrong on "pardons for torture" and wrong on Afghanistan.
Although he is clueless, he's far better than Adolph Bush who should be behind bars forever.
His box score was:
4,274 US Troops killed needlessly.
Between 91,000 and 99,000 foreign civilians killed.
874 billion dollars wasted.
Inestimable damage to US credibility and foreign relations.
It's hard to imagine that a monster like that is still on the loose. I'm glad I don't live in Texas.
As I stated above, we call for and organize a sick out.
The date, 19th or 20th of may. This give s time for organization. It's a good day to be sick. Any one agree or does someone have their own ideas.
Pleasse don't ignor my suggestion, disagree if you want.
I agree we need to do something. See my suggestion to declare a SPEND NOT day. Let's get some ideas on the table.
People, let's put all this energy, frustration, and hopelessness into action. Not crazy-assed, looney-toons stuff, but powerful, I'm-a-proud-citizen-and-mad-as-hell-driven, responsible action.
Ok let's all stop doing business with supermarkets, health insurers, gas stations, cable tv, and car companies. Reduce our electric consumption to 7kwh/day/person, ehh? Unplug our fridges and knock it down to 3kwh. Food costs down to $3/day/person. Income to below taxable threshold. Stop buying stuff. And join ALL the sick-outs! We know exactly what we are doing.
Hold Obama responsible after all he was elected for exactly that job. The office of president requires an individual man or woman who is a strong leader, one that can set a goal and keep it. That is what leaders do, it matters not if they are white, sky blue pink with polka dots, or black. The criteria is courage, integrity, honour and leadership, not BLACK! I do not mean to disrespect black people, just this one because he rode to power on the backs of the black people and has disrespected every black person in America who is not a coward or disrespcts the law as does this coward. I know thousands of black folk my wife is black and many of our relatives and friends are also black and oriental, native Americans and white folks all are denouncing this as the greatest show of cowardism in history! CAN THE COWARD!!!
"Bush Administration memos released by the White House on Thursday provide new insight into claims that American agents used insects to torture the young children of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."
Evilgelicals other Reich wing christians who made this possible should be held to account before man and God!
I am not the least bit surprised. This is par for a government like the one that oppresses us to the degree this one does. Notice how things are starting to tighten down in America. We are being kept close to home so as not to spread discontent in foreign cities. Passports are being formatted for travel on regular driver's permits and soon they will be needed to go from state to state. Police are notorius for brutality and we have photographic proof of that and no one seems to care. Americans will trade their freedom for security on their property in a heartbeat, bank on it!
It will now be legal for others (read Islamists for one) to torture Americans just for the heck of it! Jolly good Obama you have just undone 70 years of hard fought legal prosecution re; war crimes. Now grant a pardon for Hitler and all the rest including Cheney. They all are cut from the same cloth as are you, you bloody coward!
"I was only following memos" is no excuse.
Everyone involved is either guilty of warcrimes (individual acts of torture) or participaating in a crime against humanity (setting up a worldwide system of kidnapping and torture.)
To coin a phrase: you are either with us or you are with the torturers.
"Us" being the human race.
People give too much credit to Obama. He does not have that much leeway. After all, he is a creature of our peculiar system:
We've moved from Bad Cop Bush to Good Cop Obama." Same old story, just another day.
By and large, Obama is simply reading the "President's Play Book." To wit: Wall Street runs the government (therefore Larry Summers is your man and not Dean Baker or Paul Krugman) and the Pentagon runs any foreign policy that Wall Street is not running(that's why we have Gates and not Kucinich).
(Remember the Eisenhower quip about the "Industrial-military complex" that was running out country? It's true--it's now called the "military-wall street complex."
Always was that way--our founding fathers, like the super-wealthy George Washington or the mildly wealthy James Madison, wanted the rich to rule--they preferred monarchy, of course, but settled for oligarchy.
These are the war crimes that the Obama Administration has just 'legalized' by refusing to prosecute.
This is an unforgivable heartbreak. Neither party can be trusted.
Wrong Wrong Wrong... according to FOX 'news" that is...
"...the use of these techniques does not inflict either physical or psychological damage... The conclusions (the) memos reach -- that the specific interrogation techniques used by the CIA did not constitute torture -- are eminently reasonable."
Which Rush said even better back in '04 regarding Abu Ghraib:
"...You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some steam off? ...if you, really, if you look at these pictures, I mean, I don't know if it's just me, but it looks just like anything you'd see Madonna, or Britney Spears do on stage."
So... BO says there's no reason to look back, and, even if we did, all we'd find is good times anyway. Moving the f@#k on, folks...
The CIA is the largest media of all.
Passages describing forced nudity, the slamming of detainees into walls, prolonged sleep deprivation and the dousing of detainees with water as cold as 41 degrees alternate with elaborate legal arguments concerning the international Convention Against Torture.
The law is absolutely anything lawyers tell you it is. For them there is no common, agreed-upon meaning to words, any words. It all depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. That Bill Clinton mealy-mouthfull still defines it all. And Obama is Bill Clinton v.2.0 (emphasis on the zero).
*sigh* The old "blame the lawyers, kill the lawyers" sentiment. Go ahead get rid of lawyers. The authoritarians, the totalitarians, the fascists would love that.
No one is ever going to be held accountable for this, that's just the way it is. it's disgusting but it's reality.
“I believe strongly in transparency and accountability... The United States is a nation of laws." Pres. Obama April 16
BAIL OUT: There is no accountability or transparency for the billions of taxpayer funds given to Wall Street crooks.
SPYING ON US: There is no accountability or transparency in the NSA's massive and illegal interceptions of emails and phone calls of American citizens.
MORE WAR: The Iraq war and murder of women and children continues, the Afghan-Pakistan war and murder of women and children grows.
WAR CRIMES & TORTURE WITH IMPUNITY: Torturers go free with no special prosecutor or independent inquiry. The rule of law, International treaties, and the US Constitution ignored.
CHANGE WE CAN NOT BELIEVE!
Yes I voted for him and we must push back. PE
Peter,
I was hiking past a pasture which contained a flock of sheep, Yesterday. They were all calling out: Obahhhma, Obahhhma.
I could not help but think of the Obama sheeple.
Do you really believe that Mr. Obama listens to your bleating?
"Nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past.....dark and painful chapter in our history." - President Barack Obama
As a nation, what would be gained is respect for the rule of law.
But the bigger issue is what do we lose by failing to affix blame, by failing to hold accountable those top policy makers and their lawyer enablers who created the Bush era's shameful torture regime as official US government policy?
What is lost is the ability to take torture "off the table" of policy tool options available for future administrations to pick up and use whenever they might deem it politically expedient.
Torture is a crime under international law and by federal statute. Torturing people is not a policy choice, subject to on again, off again, status with a shift of the partisan winds.
We have much to gain by fixing accountability for crimes past, but far more to lose if we fail to do so, and let this historic moment slip away.
Politicizing (rather than outlawing) torture, warrantless wiretapping, and related police state tactics is Dick Cheney's neo-con wet dream come true.
Bill from Saginaw
-What is lost is the ability to take torture "off the table" of policy tool options available for future administrations to pick up and use whenever they might deem it politically expedient.
good point, but to play devil's advocate, with impeachment, single payer healthcare and much else a majority of Americans say they want off the table, the table was starting to look a little bare.
"... the methods approved by the Bush administration for extracting information from senior operatives of Al Qaeda ..."
Gee, how would you know that they're senior operatives of Al Qaeda if they haven't been tried or even accused of a crime? Leave it to the NYT to obediently use the standard rhetorical propaganda tricks to keep Americans thinking that everyone we imprisoned and tortured was a terrorist.
SUSPICIONS CONFIRMED! Bush, Cheney, Michael Hayden and the rest of the criminal, crime family have been saying ad nauseum that we cannot release the memos as it would comprimise " national security" when except for the most naive knows that it was THEIR SECURITY that they were concerned about! The people in power have been using this canard for at least 50 years to cover up their nefarious deeds. These boys have cried wolf for so long that the average intelligent American knows we cannot believe anything our government tells us, even if true, as they have wrapped themselves in the flag and this pack of lies called national security. Clinton, I never had sex with that woman"; " Bush, we do not torture; we are bringing them freedom; "Hayden, we cannot release the memos because of intelligence concerns; and on and on and on and on ad finitum.
Just stop paying taxes, and when they come looking for you inform the IRS that "we should not reflect on the past" and assure them you will do all that you can to pay taxes in the future.
Bingo!
I do not know if any of you saw Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" segment last night taking Obama to task for wallpapering over these criminal acts, but it was very good and spot on. He echoed what many of us have said over these past several years that if we do not prosecute and incarcerate those who committed war crimes, it sets a precedent for future presidents to engage in the same activity knowing they can get away with it. But it does not surprise me that Obama is doing this. He is a smooth talker and a weak leader.
Committing War Crimes to set a legal precedent has been precisely and publicly stated as Israeli Policy by a Zionist Commander. Obama is clearly doing the same.
Didn't take long to attack Israel. Congrats!
When Israel abandons torture policy, it won't receive criticism for torture policy.
It is legitimate to criticize Israeli's policies that permit torture however it smacks of hypocrisy when you only mention Israel and not the Palestinians...
Killing and torturing is to the Middle East what Baseball is to the US...it the national pastime.
Cygnus is right.
What too few seem to get is that we will be back here again if we do not put the fear of prosecution into these CIA and military types.
These are people who fundamentally believe in the power of torture for two reasons:
1). It makes them feel good to beat up defenseless people.
2). It always works really well in the movies.
The ONLY way to keep them from trying this again in the future is if they know that they will be prosecuted one day for their crimes.
On another note. I watch CNN last night...as much as I could stand anyway. They had David Gergen on and some other guy. I used to respect Gergen when he was an anylist for the News Hour back in the early 90's but good grief he has fallen far and fast.
He spent the whole time being an apologist for the torturers and the people who wrote those memos.
He kept insisting that "this was in the context of 911" .... "we were all so afraid"...And then the classic "They were doing as they were told and we cannot be worrying about whether our CIA operatives are going to follow orders or not..." the interviewer never once brought up the Nuremburg rulings, which CLEARLY hold individuals accountable. There is NO "I was only following orders" defense.
Nor did anyone directly challenge these assertions, all of which are vacuous.
Gergen tried to imply a few times that these 'techniques' were deemed necessary. The other two at least called him on that one. But I honestly thought he was smarter than that.
I've decided the guy is a pig.
The right wing authoritarian leaders/followers both participate in an alter-reality along-side their earthly existence. In the alter-reality they are a pack of wolves on the hunt. The pack doesn't challenge the leader, at least during the hunt.
To accept the leader's routine lies, and to ignore rational appeals from others, requires something block the followers' capacity to think rationally. The hunt itself serves to block reason. The sound of the leader's howl throws them into this purely instinctive hunt mode, completely beyond their conscious awareness, and the leader has their unconditional loyalty for the duration of the hunt.
Uneven application of Law is no Law at all.
Can the DOJ ethics investigation result in serious charges?
Somebody tell Leahy to take a hike into those beautiful Vermont hills with his immunity nonsense.
...and I'm not talkin' about the peopoloe who followed the memos... but the people who wrote them...
I'm for making that sidk out day to protest the "let's look to the future" attitude. Let's make a date...
...nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."
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As Jonathan Turley said yesterday on Rachael Maddow appointing a special prosecutor, a career person with no politcal affiliation, and allow him/her to go wherever the case leads and make all decisions based on the LAW is exactly how you AVOID getting into a politcal BLAME game.
Obama almost daily says he's looking forward. If he were truly looking forward he'd be trying to help the nation AVOID the next Dick Cheney. Instead, by not prosecuting anyone he's ENSURING the next Dick Cheney.
Also..
The media is doing a great job of obfuscating and conflating the CIA personnel who carried out the torture with the Bush legal team who wrote the torture memos. I listened to a half dozen accounts and would've been throughly confused by all of them if I didn't spend at least an hour on the internet taking the time to understand this matter.
This is quite obviously their strategy. Agree to release the memos then go into full blown misinformation and disinformation mode. Try to drive this story completely away and bury it after the Sunday morning political shows.
You'll see. By next Monday team Obama will simply say that all information has now been disclosed and they're movin' on.
In the diagrams, the perpetrator is white and the victim is black...