Protester Waves Blood-Colored Hands in Rice’s Face
WASHINGTON — An anti-war protester waved blood-colored hands in U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s face at a congressional hearing on Wednesday and shouted “war criminal!”, but was pushed away and detained by police.
“The blood of millions of Iraqis is on your hands!” yelled the protester, Desiree Anita Ali-Fairooz of the Code Pink organization which often disrupts hearings on Capitol Hill with protests against the Iraq war.
Rice, an architect of President George W. Bush’s Iraq policy, appeared unfazed by the incident, which occurred when she entered a House of Representatives meeting room to testify at a hearing on U.S. Middle East policy.
“Out!,” shouted the chairman of the Foreign Relations committee, Rep. Tom Lantos, as plain-clothes security men and police hustled the woman away. The California Democrat also ordered the removal of several other Code Pink activists.
Capitol Police said later five people were arrested, including Ali-Fairooz, who was charged with disorderly conduct and assault on a police officer.
She was also charged with defacing government property for smearing the red paint from her hands on the hallway wall outside the hearing room. The other four protesters faced disorderly conduct charges.
© 2007 Reuters
Condi doesn’t look ‘unfazed’ to me. She looks furious. Poor thing.
Too bad the woman didn’t get to smear that fake blood onto Rice’s designer suit, or better, on her $1000 pair of pumps.
Condoleeza is a failure on all counts; a woman, a black, a politician and a human.
Meg…”Poor thing.” saywhat?
I think you were trying to be sarcastic…
This Condi Rice war criminal ‘bitch’ deserves far more than bloody hands waved about..How about jail for the natural term of her life!
PS Those code pink ladies are absolutely brilliant…One genuine lady ‘demonizing’ miss ’surly’ rice [small caps intended]
Code Pink volunteers and other groups who are attempting to keep the DC establishment accountable are the real heros and should be getting the medals and awards.
If there is any semblance of a democracy left in the US ten years from now, we will have these groups to thank, not the troops or the press corps.
Look, I support Code Pink and their tactics, but maybe they could try a little harder not to look like lunatics.
Miles P.,
This is the United States. All press is good press.
“but maybe they could try a little harder not to look like lunatics.”
I have no probelem with their “lunacy” - but wher are the male “lunatics”?, where are the young “lunatics”. Wher are the “lunatics” mobbing the comittee rooms and congressional gallery every day?
Simonhhh … being sarcastic. There’s not an ounce of sympathy in me for this person, except to say it must be awful to be in her skin … to know that you are the cause of so much suffering and death.
We need Code Pink more than ever, considering the absence of an opposition party.
Sally Jackson — YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. ‘The lunatics are in the house.’
‘I have no probelem with their “lunacy” - but wher are the male “lunatics”?, where are the young “lunatics”. Wher are the “lunatics” mobbing the comittee rooms and congressional gallery every day?’
It’s tough to fight the good fight when literally one unexcused missed day of work is all it would take for me to be homeless.
They’ve got us all under their thumb. The reason there hasn’t been more visible opposition to this war is that very few of us can afford the luxury of getting arrested.
jdpst44… All press isn’t good press, if you need a primer, we, the common people who seek justice, do not own the media and although I think there is a place for a stunt like this, to base your strategy on it is faulty and it is being effectively used against the cause.
Code Pink’s stances are honorable but grandstanding in costumes and dancing at a rally in front of mothers who have lost family members in the war isn’t the best way to go about it.
A humbled focus and organization amongst different groups is what we need and that includes taking constructive criticism and guidance on the anti-war front from people versed in collective strategy.
Code Pink’s bravery is commendable but one must admit that there are thousands of people ready to get active that get turned off by the self-indulgent tactics used by the organization.
I think it would further the cause if you took to heart some constructive criticism that comes up and evaluate your tactics and figure out a way to streamline them in unison with a broader movement.
This shouldn’t be about code pink’s branding identity… it should be an effort to come in contact with people who are against the war in unison… which means compromise.
btw, here’s a link to the video…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/24/war-protester-gets-into-r_n_69720.html
We see again, as we see with Sen. Feinstein’s support of Judge Southwick — whose racism was not enough, in her mind, to disqualify him from being on the federal bench — that the Vichycrats are a support party for Bush, not an opposition party.
“but maybe they could try a little harder not to look like lunatics.”
I’d rather look like a lunatic, than be one.
Hey Meg October 24th, 2007 3:57 pm….
Yup…I totally agree…
Yea Code Pink!!!!!!!!!! More more more….we can make a diference. Thank you Desiree.
The behavior of the storm troopers is far more repugnant. This is an outburst at the dinner table, a little unpleasant but no need for overbearing security to escort another American from the Democratic process. Symbolically, more Americans are completely excluded, without the assistance of a badge wearing thug with a truncheon. Blood is being spilled and it’s all over Condi’s hands; poignant protest.
Condi Lice needs more fiber.
bleve,
CodePink is not the only group that I know of but they get alot media time and I think their message is very effective. For a lack of better terms, they “shock and awe” the Congress and bush administration.
You are right though that all the groups should work together. That’s what the Conservatives have done for the past thirty years and it has worked. Read Don’t think of an elephant by Lakoff.
If it wasn’t for groups like Code Pink, no one would ever be able to tell that there IS an opposition of the Bush Lunacy with the way the right wing media/propoganda machine operates.
GIVE ME MORE OF THAT CODE PINK STYLE “LUNACY” and you can keep all your spineless sellout Nancy Pelosi style “sanity”
None of this hatred will help. A copy of the photo everywhere will help. Nobody seems to be selling yet — typical capitalist reticence to not make a buck I suppose. Wonderful. Thank you Code Pink. By the way, our local group is “ladies in black.” Nice to see them merge
Condoleeezzza Rice wants to be white so bad, she wouldn’t dare be seen with her hair not straightened. What’s with the red rouge on her cheeks? Another ridiculous attempt to be white. How pathetic.
And what’s with the “Democratic” jerk who got hysterical and wanted the demonstrators out –Democratic Tom Lantos, a California Representative. I’ll never vote for a Democrat again. They protect at all costs Bush, Rice, and anyone and everyone of the criminal Bush-Cheney Crime Syndicate.
It would be nice if, even for an instant, this sort of thing made Rice stop and consider that if moral people retake this country, she will spend the rest of her life in prison after worldwide exposure and judgment in a war criminals tribunal.
Not so nice goner. I don’t see them walking aooperatively to the slammer. Better to keep them busy ducking participatory democracy than giving them time to think about what’s coming to them. Remember: these are bad people, not mistaken people. Mistaken people got them elected. Now they vent their anger at being lied to. But don’t pray for them to figure out what they’ve got coming. Am I being censored again? I don’t cuss.
It’s not rouge… it’s blood of the thousands she helped send to their deaths…
Code Pink - thanks!
This looks like a peaceful protest to me. Putting hands up and showing red painted palms doesn’t come close to what Rice should have in front of her! I say “Hooray,” for the courageous women of Code Pink. We should do all we can to support their effort$$$$$!
Someday (I hope) Rice will wish she could still see those hands and not have to face what the World Tribunal has for her to see.
jdpst44… “they “shock and awe” the Congress and bush administration”
Well, not exactly. The people in congress are educated and know that innocent people are dying but they are paid good and like their perks and are spineless. So the tactic might shock them but there is no real effect in their policy, there is no “awe”.
Once again, I think there is a place for a tactic like this but I don’t think that this group constantly using it is working to the benefit of our side and its isolating the movement more than inviting in the average outraged citizen.
I’m not bashing them but I think they’re being short sighted and are obviously very adverse to listening to fellow activists that don’t agree with all their tactics.
Rare indeed is a leader or a group that can truly evaluate their operation and ask the tough questions. I don’t think its out of line to ask these questions. We should all be asking if we’re being as effective as we could be and asking that of other groups too… and not get completely offended in the process.
awesome photo and a very well-planned protest. it’s always interesting that a photo like this, a protest like this, it can get picked up by reuters, but not a single MSM paper in the country ran this story. and NO TV coverage. this is the sort of story that only common dreamers readers are going to see. correct me if i’m wrong.
LET ME ASK YOU ALL SOMETHING? How do you propose getting our constitution and nation back from the imperial monsters that are destroying everything we stand for?
1- burn the media consolidators in Hollywood with arson?
2- protest to a bunch of ruling thugs who have no clue how to get us to a sustainable retreat and bring back humanity towards national patterns?
3- vandelize SUV dealerships
4-kidnap imperial family members and torture them
5- all of the above?
Code Pink should be nominated for next year’s Nobel Peace Prize. Their heart, spirit, creativity, courage and tenacity continue to lift us up and keep us going.
Thank you, Ms. Ali-Fairooz, and the others who were arrested for actions taken on behalf of peace.
Look for my pink cap Sat., Oct. 27 in Seattle
In solidarity.
P. S. Shame on Rep. Lantos (who looked so splendid on the dais with the Dalai Lama the other day). He SHOULD have been saying “Out!” to Condoleezza Rice, not Ms. Ali-Fairooz.
bleve,
Codepink’s tactics have to affect members of Congress.
I Love it! I bet she didn’t feel much like shopping for shoes after that!!!
These people need it — literally — in their faces!
Valsmith, I don’t understand why anyone would stand up for a war criminal like Condi Rice. I think she’s a self-hating black, and I have the right to think so. This isn’t a fascist right-wing message board, by the way.
I still think the red rouge looks ridiculous. I wonder why she never got married and had children. Most women like children enough to do that. She seems like a cold, calculating person. Look at her picture. LOL
I think Code Pink is great.
They have more courage than a lot of men.
Maybe the “mothers who have lost family members in the” Illegal, Immoral Occupation Should be Front & Center With Code Pink!
I love it!! Go Code Pink! I wish the Code Pink in my area would do more local protesting (Albany, NY). We can’t always trek down to Washington D.C.
I bet Condi didn’t feel much like shopping for shoes after that!
Demonizing and vowing to punish our corrupt leaders is not the way to peace. Threatening the politicians, backed by too many Americans, who helped Bush stay entrenched in office after 2004, will merely keep the country divided and prevent progress. We should resist the easy temptation to scapegoat and put all of the blame on the few along with all the people who ignorantly went along with them. It will only strengthen their resolve to stay their course and persevere in their mindset, because now they will be frightened into desperately striving to prove they are “right,” to “win.” Working and persevering to correct our course by peaceful leadership is the way. The neocons and their followers need to be shown by example that their ideology is fear-based and therefore a failure. Yes there should be impeachment to start the investigation of how our country veered this way. It is the government and US who should be impeached. The peacekeepers were ineffective in preventing this war and not enough spoke out in time. We might therefore be seen as enablers. It is the entire country that must atone. Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate for 2008 who could lead us out of the mess we are in.
Too bad the bloody hands couldn’t have belonged to one of the many wounded who have come back scarred forever.
I can’t fathom women such as Rice and Albright supporting a war. Hillary is included, since she and her husband attacked Kosovo. And we know how that turned out.
I thought men weren’t allowed in code pink.
Where do we get 1000 large fat-head size posters of the bloodstained hands in her face?.
Did you hear all the polite greetings when they were dragging people who did nothing out. How nice and polite and all.
“I think Code Pink is great.
They have more courage than a lot of men.”
Sounds like your causes are getting crossed. I may or may not agree with you on that one but a bitter statement and bitter sentiment to your fellow activists leaves much to be desired.
“I love it!! Go Code Pink! I wish the Code Pink in my area would do more local protesting (Albany, NY).”
It took me about 30 seconds to find numerous ways of getting active in Albany… here’s an idea… organize one.
“Maybe the “mothers who have lost family members in the” Illegal, Immoral Occupation Should be Front & Center With Code Pink!”
Perhaps they don’t feel like reveling in a carnival atmosphere. I mean really, does one not see how a mourning person who is ready to get active could be a bit offended by a bunch of well off middle-aged women who have the resources to travel at leisure and who may not even know someone who has lost their life in the war. Take some time to understand that we need as many people as we can get…especially those who have been directly effected. If we can get over the self-indulgence and patting oneself on the back for taking a stand, we may be able to come together and do this in a more efficient and effective way.
“Look for my pink cap Sat., Oct. 27 in Seattle
In solidarity.”
Is the peace/antiwar movement in America in “solidarity”?
Lillulu:
“I don’t understand why anyone would stand up for a war criminal like Condi Rice. I think she’s a self-hating black, and I have the right to think so. This isn’t a fascist right-wing message board, by the way.”
You’re right. Bad people deserve whatever happens to them. And whoever disagrees with you should be vaguely demonized an islamofascist, a Godless communist, or a fascist right-winger. Two lessons well learned from George Bush.
You do indeed have a right to say so. I’ll defend your right to do so, while exercising mine to disagree.
“It took me about 30 seconds to find numerous ways of getting active in Albany… here’s an idea… organize one.”
There is an Albany, NY chapter - I am on there mailing list and never receive anything. Hillary’s office is here — lots to do there, but I guess her office in DC is more appealing.
I do not know if Condie is entirely unfazed. She looks a little perturbed in the picture. I wonder what option she will choose to blow off a little steam? A.) Go to the gymnasium B.) Let Blackwater renegades randomly shoot another 100 Iraqi civilians C.) Go shopping for shoes
I will put my money on choice B.
Code Pink Rocks!
The photo of Code Pink activist Desiree Anita Ali-Fairooz with “blood” on her hands framing Condelezza Rice’s head is iconic. You’ll see it again, and again, and again in days, weeks, months, and years to come. And that’s no accident. These Code Pink women know what they are doing, and they are darn good at it, thank goodness.
Would that there were many, many more with their courage, integrity, gumption, and political savvy. But I understand their numbers are growing.
They are the guilty consciences of the 535 members of the U.S. Congress, and they will not be silenced.
You Go, Girl!
The whole of Congress at this time are war criminals. Except for those who voted against it. I let my congressman know that in an e-mail I sent him.
There is just no other way to spin attacking a defenseless country that had done you no harm. The crime has been committed and can’t be undone.
Code Pink is showing more courage than I have. They are the best patriots this country has.
backydbq,
““but maybe they could try a little harder not to look like lunatics.”
I’d rather look like a lunatic, than be one”
The concern with appearing “reasonable” baffles me. Look at Nancy Capitulatosi — so professional appearing, and inside, dust and air.
The lunatics are the ones in the blue suits & lapel pins & tailored ensembles.
valsmith, thank you for calling out people for their patriarchal and racist language. I think we really need to reevaluate how we critique politicians. Let’s focus on the impact of the policies Condoleezza promotes instead of relying on sexist slurs and degrading Condoleezza’s physical appearance. You do not hear people talking about male-identified politicians in this way.
On a related note, I strongly recommend that people check out this piece by Kenyon Farrow about Ms. Rice from the book “Letters from Young Activists”: http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/722/79/
Looks like there’s a couple of right-wing fascists who are infiltrating the CD board. All I can say is if you don’t like the comments about your hero Rice, you can always go to a right-wing message board. You’d probably be happier there.
I didn’t mean to sound harsh with the guys. Should we have Code Blue protesters to join the Code Pink? I guess I hurt someone’s feelings when I said Code Pink had more courage than a lot of men.
Lillulu
You caught me! I’m actually a agent of the CIA trained by the Gestapo in my beloved vaterland. I went to Langly after der fuhrer was murdered by the russians. I am here to spy upon YOU, specifically.
Perhaps I was too subtle for you earlier. You’re assuming since you’re attacking Rice, you have not only a constitutional right but a social carte blanche to say whatever you like. Any anyone who disagrees with you, even to say “I don’t like her either, but you’re carrying this a bit far” you label as a fascist. That is poor debating procedure, and even worse reasoning.
And tnewman, thanks.
Gee, SallyJackson, that is one scary picture.
But thanks for a visual moment of truth !
At least Chevron had the good taste to take her name off a nice handsome oil tanker !
Wonder is she still has stock in Chevron after being on their board ?
What a piece of work, as a black woman doing the dirty work of evil white men !
Condi (and Hillary and Nancy and just about every other member of Congress or any administration of the last 50 years) has proven this much: red or yellow, black or white (pink or blue), girl or boy, gay or straight, POWER CORRUPTS.
“They’ve got us all under their thumb. The reason there hasn’t been more visible opposition to this war is that very few of us can afford the luxury of getting arrested [or losiing ones job].
I hear this a lot from presumubly middle class people. they fear of becoming activists due to loss of job, homelessness, etc.
But, weren’t the working people in other popular revolts - from Russia, to Ireland to India, to Nicaragua to Venezuela; and here in the US, Homestead and Haymarket, Lowell, Matewan and Ludlow in even more dire a hand-to mouth existence, and were’t they risking their lives as well as their starvation wage jobs?
Jesus! how can you all be so cowed! There are other jobs out there. And, blacklisting is, as far as I know, is rare.
Awww, I’m such a bad person, I feel sooo guilty for daring to criticize one of Bush’s loyal lapdogs, Condi Rice. Let me change my sinful ways and be sweet and compliant and always praise her no matter what she does and kiss the war criminal’s feet. I wouldn’t want to be called “bitter” if I don’t (suck up). Heaven forbid.
“Look, I support Code Pink and their tactics, but maybe they could try a little harder not to look like lunatics.”
MilesP,
Look, the days of tea and crumpets and Miss Manners are over.
So, you’re afraid of getting arrested - that’s fine, but don’t denigrate what others are doing to get the world’s attention - they have the courage you and I don’t seem to be able to muster. You think only those who “can afford” to get arrested are doing this stuff? Think again. People are putting their careers and their reputations on the line in courageous acts of civil disobedience against an insanely fascist government. They should be lauded.
P.S. Tom Lantos has no patience for protesters of war criminals. Tom Lantos, go to hell!
Pinks have courage and I think we need the opposite of a ‘humbled focus’ as one poster said. Humble? Yeah that will get attention. Code Pink is all about bringing attention that business as usual is not acceptable. This woman did it right too. Touching Rice would have been construed as assault and would have served nothing but reduce the credibility and support for Code Pink.
Beware progressives because there are agent provocateurs and perhaps worse operating on CD’s comment section. Ecosutra suggests violence … another stated that too bad the blood wasn’t wiped on Rice… these are sure ways to discredit progressive efforts. Brava Code Pink… you didn’t touch Rice… instead you brought attention and media exposure. We are with your visibilty Code Pink. You do it right and smart and we feel no doubt nor reluctance about supporting the PROGRESSIVE way you do it. Brava!
Peace.
There is such hypocrisy isn’t there? this brave woman, Ali-Fairooz, gets arrested for “disorderly conduct”, “assault on a police officer” (she probably got some paint on him/her) and “defacing government property”, yet Bush/Cheney can continue……….hell I don’t need to explain it.
Good God. Everyone on this site celebrates Code Pink like it’s really doing something effective. None of these liberal peace groups are ending the war! Haven’t any of you liberals figured this out yet? So she shouted at Condi, so what? What difference do these actions make in ending the war? This passavist non-violent activism is pointless and useless, it isn’t accomplishing anything, nor is the lobbying which you liberals continue to love to do. And no, the impeachment of Bush and Cheney won’t end this war, and no, the 2008 election of a democrat for president won’t end this war. The Democrats have the power to end this war right now if they wanted to. Instead they would rather support the murderous military like so many liberals and progressives do.
When will you people realize that your actions are pointless? They are not getting you anywhere! You can interupt a congressional hearing but that’s not going to end the war. Code Pink, United for Peace, Peace Action, they are all doing the same failed tactics. Millions have marched against the war, millions have protested, millions have lobbies their congressman, you have gotten arrested for refusing to leave congressmans offices. None of these actions have worked, this war still continues at almost 5 years in a row.
It is time for you to abandon the ways of the old. It is time for direct action, no more of this shit that is such a joke. You people are looking towards the government as if they actually care what we think! The ignorance of people who follow these groups is ridiculous. You try the same failed methods for everything. Mainstream environmental groups continue to peacefully protest things, getting very little results from such actions. Groups such as the Earth Liberation Front are taking action into their own hands, as the people need to be doing with ending this war. You’re using the same failed methods over and over again thinking they will work, these methods have been tried over and over again since Vietnam, and have never ended a war, the wars have all ended as a result of an inability for the US to win. Furthermore, many of you still have the naive ideas that we need to get out of Iraq because we can’t win, as if the imperialism and hegemony that the United States government practices is legitimate so long as America is winning. Your support of this government (and any other government for that matter) at all is to support everything that is wrong in this world, and everything that you are pretending to be against. The time has come to recognize that this is the product of governments, and these wars will continue to happen until we abolish them. It is likely that the mainstream peace movement will soon be protesting against a war with Iran which it is failing to stop.
I spoke of direct action, and I stand by that as a solution for ending this war. The current ways are obviously unsuccessful. The mainstream peace movement considers their actions a success just because large numbers of people have gathered for them, but in the end, the war still goes on, and troop numbers have gone up instead of down. The peace movement cannot document any real success from their actions other than getting the Democratic politicians to make some noise and pretend like they are going to end the war (with an exception to a few who truly do want to end it). If we are going to become serious about stopping this war, and even the wars of tomorrow, strategies and tactics must be realistically examined, and people must actually begin to utilize those methodologies which can and will challenge the power structure of the country. In what strategies need to be found, direct action against the American government, military installations, multinational corporations, financial institutions, urban centers, and corporate news outlets. The peaceful protests have been tried, and it is obvious that they are pointless and not useful. Nor is getting arrested doing the pointless acts that are being done. You aren’t taking any risks that you are getting arrested for, doing nothing effective.
Stop falling in line with this shit it’s ineffective, pointless, and useless. Code Pink is a joke, it’s making activism into a theatrical game. The actions that are being used today by the mainstream have been tried, and they have failed time and time again, it is time to abandon them. Do any of you understnad what you are doing? Do you have a purpose really? It doesn’t seem as if you do. You are still obeying the powers that be, you are still complying with your slavery, you are still allowing yourselves to be helpless! You all speak of democracy but this is not democracy, for no democracy can be had when the State is in control. Take matters into your own hands with direct action, not only with the war, but with every other issue. Severe your ties with the useless peace groups of today and create your own.
http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/91.25.php
www.infoshop.org
valsmith…..
i’m with you about the sexist racist ignorant comments…i loathe every person in this administration and their politics and anyone who supports them…but i don’t need to attack their sex, color or body parts….it’s understandable that we are angry but let’s not stoop to that level…..
i think the code pink woman (not lady!!) in the picture has the look of a very angry, impatient, focussed person who is committed to acts of civil disobedience in the hopes that other apatheic americans will step out of the mall or ballparks to speak up against the atrocities committed by our government…..she has the courage to go to the very source to confront someone directly responsible for over a million deaths, millions of severe injuries, millions of displaced people, countries in shambles and a very dark time in our country’s history…I WANNA BE A CODE PINK WOMEN!!!! men can be code pink members too, ya know……
anarcho, great critique of what’s not working. What are you suggesting as “direct action” if, as you say, peaceful means are useless?
I’m w/you on this one PJD
Where did I see Nov. 7th? as “Natioal Strike”
Or was I just dreaming again?
Small, visible public actions are invaluable. For one thing, they expose fake allies from true ones; they force ‘leaders’ to reveal the lack of depth of conviction, if nothing else.
And since the media coverage has been nil, they personalize the reality in a way that can be glossed over in coverage of mass protests.
BB,
“Beware progressives because there are agent provocateurs and perhaps worse operating on CD’s comment section.”
Transparency & access are vital to common effort, and one learns to distinguish between APs & plants by listening for the false notes & the rush to unguided action.
Sometimes Code Pink looks silly in the actions they take, but this was appropriate. The picture I think is very sincere and has exactly the right message, one which many Americans can relate to with their feelings about this Administration.
PJD
I had no idea Condi’s skin texture was so coarse. I suppose the evil just has to exit someplace.
desiree is awesome
PJD,
Though I don’t always agree with you, you’re always an interesting poster to read. This one caught my eye, and I was wondering if the satire was intentional:
“I hear this a lot from presumubly middle class people. they fear of becoming activists due to loss of job, homelessness, etc.”
Do they fear becoming jobless and homeless, due to activism, or becoming activists due to joblessness and homelessness? It’s great food-for-thought: will it take joblessness and homelessness to activate Americans? Is our only way out of this to wait until there are enough angry mobs of poor to bum-rush the Capitol building French Revolution-style? We’d better prepare first by de-activating Erik’s cadre of Praetorian guards!
Thank You Code Pink for your courage.
Don’t forget, Oct.27 Pro-peace rally in NYC.
No. I’m a Republican political operative. Let me tell you how that picture above actually looks to registered voters out in the country.
Condi Rice had a very, very good day for herself. She was almost attacked by a wild-eyed fanatic with a bad case of bed-head. That picture is priceless in its depiction of what Rice is up against in today’s “peace movement”: sometimes it’s accentuated by crazed fanaticism. Look at that picture very closely for at least one minute and think how it looks to regular voters. That’s the AP pic that went out over the wires. A loontard with paint on her hands looks like she’s ready to spontaneously combust and Condi is the soul of dignity and decorum. You can’t see this because you can’t step back from your hate.
You people are one of the monkey wrenches that screw up the Constitution, because you and the Code Pink moonbats do your best to try and prevent the Adults from compromising with each other, as Mr. Madison intended in the Constitution. Fanaticism always leads to this sense of marginalization and alienation.
Brave Desiree and all the other CODEPINK ladies are my heroes.
Anarcho and his infoshop anarchist friends are cowards who hide behind bandanas as they smash Starbucks windows and run away into the dark.
Thanks valsmith… You are so right. Condi’s evilness speaks for itself - the sexist/racist language of a few here harms our cause.
Bush is the one who needs to be confronted with people with blood on their hands!!! This little cowboy wannabe general war president lives in a little self-made bubble. I would love for him to be confronted with reality just once in his miserable life!!! As for your comments section 9 we know what you are trying to do just upset everyone on the blog because you know none of us true constitution loving fanatics feel the way you do. Nice try. I hope no one takes your bait.
Section9,
You bring up an interesting scenario. Sure Republicans will dismiss the Code Pink ladies as cuckoo. However, the rest of your argument is flawed. Republicans don’t compromise. And sometimes fanaticism is necessary to stir the pot to get people’s attention. I doubt James Madison would have sat patiently compromising when his country illegally occupied Iraq and his soliders were placed in the middle of a civil war.
We keep begging for peace,
love and justice…
but every thought
that we are better or
less than another is
the seed of another
war!
A sincere thanks to the new twenty first century daughters of the American Revolution; Code Pink.
Only a war supporter could call their courageous stance against a bloody unnecessary war an act of lunacy.
Condi Rice does indeed have blood on her hands. And I salute Desiree for reminding the world that some of us have not forgotten her role in promoting this senseless bloody war.
Who can forget Rice’s fear mongering about the Iraqi smoking gun being a nice puffy white nuclear mushroom cloud over our populated American cities.
She deceitfully helped Bush justify his pre-ordained war.
She stood by and did nothing when Israel was bombing innocent civilians in Lebanon.
Her explanation for cluster bombing woman and children in apartment houses was, this is simply; “the birth pangs of a new Middle East”.
Imagine some people on this blog complaining that Desiree was making our anti war cause look bad.
When you compare the death and destruction Rice is directly responsible for and the tame response performed by Desiree in the Peoples House it is like comparing a baby making noise with a plastic rattle and a top official of the Bush administration secretly giving the blessing to Israel to launch Cluster Bombs against Lebanese civilians, bombs that maim, disfigure, mutilate, blind, cripple and kill indiscriminately.
And someone had the nerve to call this brave protester a lunatic and they felt bad that Ms. Rice had her Tea and Crumpets interrupted.
Thanks again Code Pink. Well Done.
Code Pink can do no wrong.
i think that is grose… ew
Personally, I think it was a wonderful performance, especially the look on Ms. Rice’s face. Ms. Rice has consistently lied to to American People; she will forever have the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on her hands and on her soul. She should be made to face it.
Surly Old Man,
Denver
…as plain-clothes security men and police hustled the woman away.
I wonder if the “plain clothes security men” were Ms. Rice’ personal body guards - Blackwater goons, of course.
It’s really simple, boys & girls, if you’re not a member of the’ELITE’[G.w.B.,ET.AL.} YOUR GENE LINE IS ABOUT OVER! Whatever your strategy might be, as long as you DO NOT KNOW your opponents agenda, [your devided responses to this wonderful event “staring’ DESIREE, attest to your misunderstanding]any correct and therefore successful response is immpossible. You are being conditioned and distracted…”devided we fall..” Think in terms of your childrens childrens childrens GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN! and BEYOND! Then you might KNOW how to coaless and wield the power you have! Even those who can only self-identify as a “REPUBLICAN’T POLITICAL OPPERATIVE”{whatever the hell THAT is!??} with his {her?} “you people” idiot attitude is allowed to express themselves in this forum.[Barbera-ice-in-her-veins-Bush?] If we will ever be truly free, if indeed we will even survive the madness occuring now, we MUST begin to belong to each other! Since we do not know just WHAT the TRUE AGENDA of the currant regime is, all comment here[other than praise for code pink’s bravery]is JUST BLATHER! CODE PINK IS BRAVE INDEED!! Perhaps it’s time for CODE RED!!
Charging her with assaulting an officer is not only a fascist tactic of making up charges where none exist but is also a revealing character trait of what kind of people are recruited to do the imperium’s dirty work. Any “man” would never make such a baseless charge against a slender woman, or any woman, under their control unless the situation truly warranted it and could be proved by the existence of a bloody gash needing at least a dozen stitches, because it also reveals their incompetence to the whole world. But those goons aren’t men, they’re the male detritus of society. And they are cowards.
The police force in the U.S. is nothing more than an army in police uniform. They like to present themselves to the public as defenders of law and only allow certain, upright looking individuals to appear as spokespeople, but the real image of the occupying police force is of the one shooting a woman with his taser and then kicking her over when she is on her hands and knees and helpless. And then tasering her again when she tried to struggle to her feet.
And to example their cowardness, every time there is a school shooting they always wait outside until the shooting is over because they know that the shooter will most likely kill himself when he’s done. Look at the tapes of Columbine and Virginia Tech and you’ll see them hanging around outside hiding behind whatever cover they can find and idly walking across the street with the bolt cutters needed to cut the chain on the door. And all of their Swat team worm parade is totally for show so it will look impressive to all the little old ladies watching it on the evening news. It would only take a blast or two from a shotgun or a sustained burst from an Uzi and the legs would be knocked out from under most of them. And if a grenade was tossed among that tight cluster their turtle hump formation would probably ensure that only one might notice it and none of them would know where to run to before they all blew up.
There’s that cop-protester wedge again.
Fact of the matter is that cops are part of the declining middle-class. Last I checked, cops can barely make a decent middle-class living in many American cities.
The bad news for the establishment is that the wedge — the cultural battle-line — is climbing far up the power pike this time. Not cop vs. protester, not local law vs. federal law. But probably general vs. general until they can get someone in the White House with an ounce of common sense, and no connections to some extremely shady characters.
The Capitol Police are a different ballgame from ordinary law enforcement. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police
Apparently after 30 months they make about $57K. The ‘06 median priced D.C. home was $420K according to this site: http://www.nhc.org.
Fascists or not, how can one survive on like 1/8th the needed salary to get a home in that area?
Code Pink rules! That’s as close to the bloodshed Condo is causing that she’s going to get. Out Lantos!
This Code Pink lady deserves the Nobel Peace prize much more than Gore ever did. What a courageous person, to get this close to this abomination, this rotten human being Condom-sleaza Lice, I would be disgusted just to be breathing the same air.
My local news channel covered this story this morning.
It surprized the hell out of me!
Good job, people! We need more protests, whether they be peaceful or not. The word just needs to get out.
Theories go unproven.
I’m a conspiracy truthist.
Too bad the cops arrested the wrong woman. Condyloma Rice should have been handcuffed and “extraordinarily rendered” to The Hague.
Lunatics? Because the press is all over you when you write polite letters to Condi asking her to please end the war. And then everyone says “how come people aren’t outraged? Why aren’t the people protesting?” The ONLY way to get media to cover anything and thus, have people NOTICE that people are indeed protesting and encourage others to take a stand is to be a little bit out there. They use humor, bold imagery, and symbolism to get attention. This is “safer” than being a mob of angry protesters (which risks extreme retaliation) and keeps things non-violent (at least on the part of the protesters). CodePink is very grassroots, but its founders and leadership are no amateurs — they are the who’s who of grassroots organizing and utilize a wide range of tactics. They are some of the most effective protesters and organizers out there. You just don’t realize what all they have influenced or accomplished because they rarely get the credit for it.
Who gives a fuck what they look like? The fact is they are there standing in for me, and all of the others who are sick of the lies deceit and $5000.00 per second that this war is.
This lady may look like a lunatic (I guess- not to me)but how else are you gonna make your statement? She looks passionate to me.
And it is easy for you fashion police out there to criticize from the comfort of your computer chair. One hour in the halls of Congress is bound to make anyone a lunatic.
That is about the finest recent example of Direct Action I have ever seen.
Can you imagine if there were say 100 people doing the same thing?
How about if everyday the same were to happen when ever one of these show their faces in public?
Do the people of the USA have what it takes to be a democracy?
This is not a test.
Tom Lantos, of Hungarian descent fled the ‘communist’ oppression in Hungary because it was unjust. This is the sad part- he hadn’t yet challenged the unjust oppression of the Iraqi people by his own government. Oppression is oppression, whether by ‘communists’ or ‘democracies.’ It is the innocents who suffer.
shame
This is as American as apple pie. Remember the Boston Tea Party? I do because a great-great relative participated in it and I have a little book about what happened. Some of the tea he brought home (and never used) is in the Smithsonian. Anyway, it is a statement and it is effective. Otherwise, GW would not go to such lengths to have all his meetings scripted and staffed with party hacks.
This is the opposition, this is saying I object to your behavior and you are not listening so here it is in your face.
My thanks to Code Pink and Desiree for having the courage to to speak truth to power.
Self congratulatory delusions abound. Man, people really can’t take civil discussion. Please someone else post “right on code pink… you rock!!!”. Its really furthering the dialog.
The self defensiveness of the supporters of code pink illustrates that something is amiss. If your tactics are solid you would be able to articulate a coherent response to my assertion that there is need for a unified response other than…. “well you should be front and center with us then”.
I commended code pink on its courage and I commended them on their stances… their tactics wreak of a self absorbed abstraction and expenditure of resources that only receive a yahoo in the choir.
by the look on that animal’s face she really would of benefited from a pale of red paint dumped all over her as it’s good to give an intense message to one as evil as rice.
I’d love to get a rent a cop job around the statehouse and make sure code pink gets the red carpet whenever they come join a hearing I would make sure they got in no matter what
i am no provocateur just an angry citizen, I hate all of them for what they did to the world, can’t I vent on line without being accused of some secret gov official.. that’s paranoia, that’s what they want more than having a 2 minute hate work off
feloneouscat October 24th, 2007 4:50 pm
“It’s not rouge… it’s blood of the thousands she helped send to their deaths…”
DON’T YOU MEAN OVER A MILLION CIVILIANS
condi ‘BITCH’ IS COMPLICIT IN MURDERING…
how can someone who is souless have a reaction? the woman is empty and heartless, i wouldn’t be surprised if we found out she is controlled by a wireless object, she’s a total robot with nothing inside, I mean u gotta wonder how the hell she even sleeps at night, an important role in the world and this woman is without any capabilities not to mention how immoral and mentally disturbed she is , how can condi even look in a mirror???
THANK YOU CODE PINK!
They say it is Rice and Gates that are keeping the breaks on Cheney from pushing the attack on Iran.
Considering Hillary’s sabre-rattling for her Zionist constituents that pay more than we do, I would actually be more impressed if the bloody hands were in her face….or Tom Lantos, speaking of Zionists.
Anita Ali Fairooz is a true patriot and a hero! Bless Code Pink! Rice is lucky Code Pink chose blood. A lot of people are saying they should have used dog feces.
She is a war criminal. Like to see her in a joining cell to Dick and George - naked with just a shoelace. I believe Spandau prison has openings.
God bless Code Pink! Condo and others should be faced with blood every time they appear in public, to show them the physical symbol of what they are doing, have been doing, in Iraq.
To quote a wise man named Carlin,.. “they don’t CARE about you….they don’t CARE about you,….they don’t CARE about you”. These swine sleep VERY well thank you, They have compromised any conscience they EVER had, twisted it out of shape to the point where they sincerely believe they’ve done/do nothing wrong. The only way to protect ALL good people around the world from their evil is if they are removed from the gene pool. Chances are, they all own little condos in Dubai to hop away to should the U.S. sheeple ever grow balls and brains and as for detention to control and “interrogate” the sheeple,….the pigs at Haliburton have already finished the “re-education” camps and are just waiting for SwineBush to give the word to begin filling ‘em.You need to ban the Republican party then nationalize energy and communications. Those 3 things more than ever give them the money and control to lead you poor saps around by the nose. As the elite say, Don’t fret the common man, we’ll hire half of them to slaughter the other half. A nation of sheep, led by a cartel of whores, controlled by Israel/big business. Welcome, to the REAL Evil Empire.
anarcho,
Quit swinging for the fences, my friend. Positive social change is brought about by thousands of personal actions. As Margaret Mead said, it’s the only way it ever has.
A beautiful piece of protest theater! No touching, no assault, total control, but message delivered with flair, with plenty of press, to increase the curiosity of the young and the fence sitters and to invigorate and inspire those already fed up.
Certainly all protest should not be of the same form, but protest theater like that from time to time is priceless and could certainly fit well into an overall strategy.
denny,
I have to disagree with your conclusion that Condi is “empty and heartless.” She is weak and is under the control of those around her and does what she is told. I think she was the perfect target for the attack as she may very well have a conscience, unlike Cheney and his monkey. I would not at all be surprised if she had trouble sleeping last night.
I doubt Condi Rice was bothered but momentarily by this wonderful protestor. Many people at the top of a hiearchy like ours have learned to repress guilt, sadness, and empathy to the point of becoming voluntary sociopaths. It isn’t just Dick Cheney. The hope doesn’t lie in getting under their skin, but in waking up people like you and me.
Go Code Pink!
george, dick, and condi all deserve to be naked, in a detention center being tortured. impeachment wouldnt even come close to justice. nor would imprisonment. and i’ve exhausted all tolerance for political debate and banter, until everyone comes to an understanding and agreement about the reality of the bush crime family, and stop the nonsense over arguing who the next president will be. its all been bought and paid for and its all been scripted. arent quite that cynical yet, come see me after the so called election.
To all republicans this message is very effective because as Carl Jung said, “People cannot stand too much reality.”
To the poster who thinks Code Pink members are lunatics: Let me just say, if Code Pink members are lunatics, I don’t wanna be “sane”. God Bless Code Pink. They rock!
Meet Tom Lantos, the dick who threw them out:
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen02152003.html
lillulu October 24th, 2007 7:20 pm
Awww, I’m such a bad person..
Not necessarily, but you do seem to have a problem with some very basic progressive notions: we don’t condone sexist, racist and other derogatory behavior because WE KNOW IT IS WRONG! There’s no caveat that says we can revert to THAT if the target happens to be someone we don’t like! Your reaction to valsmith repeatedly trying to point out this SIMPLE assertion makes you come across as a common garden-type IDIOT! Please remedy the situation and understand what progressives stand for before identifying yourself as one as you sound quite confused..!
One woman stands up to “the man” and we get all giddy and poetic about it. Is this what our country has come to? It’s like were all prisoners and one prisoner throws his feces at the guards and we all strut around the prison yard giving each other high fives forgetting the fact were still behind the bars. This act,although courageous, wont accomplish spit.
Desiree Anita Ali-Fairooz is an extremely brave person!! Unlike some here, I don’t see these types of protests as empty gestures: it takes a lot to be defiant to that extent in the current climate, and I applaud her (and CODE PINK) without reservation!
How do you know you’re living under a fascist regime?? When you read that people are being arrested and charged with things like.. “defacing government property for smearing the red paint from her hands on the hallway wall outside the hearing room”
Interloper, you sound like a right-wing idiot to me. What “sexist” or “racist” statement did I make about Rice? I will wait for your answer.
I think we should all send messages to the “Republican Operative” who posted his personal email.
Then we will be so busy deleting spam that we won’t have time for all this squabbling among ourselves.
Try to remember that our medium here is prone to misunderstanding not unity at all.
You don’t get to see the expression or tone of voice or the background of each other and the fact that most have alias names makes us wonder even more about the folks we reply to.
Not that arguing is not good… I am glad that we are actually arguing about tactics.
This is progress folks… and well I can’t get too hung up on unity anyway.
If everyone agrees it ain’t a real revolution…it is a fantasy.
Honestly, I think Anarcho had the best post here so far.
I’ll say it again, because i don’t think it sank in the first time. The reason there’s virtually no national anti-war movement is that the self-declared leaders like Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink LOOK LIKE LUNATICS to the general public.
Maybe when they bomb Iran, Code Pink will step it up and dress up in big pink pussy costumes to show congress and the white house they mean business…
MilesP, would you be happy if Code Pink swarmed the place with machine guns? Honestly, some people are never satisfied.
Violence is wrong. Code Pink gets their message across without violence. What’s so wrong about that?
I don’t think they look like “lunatics.” I think people who support this criminal administration are the lunatics.
I’m not advocating violence and i never said there’s anything wrong with peaceful protest, so please don’t put words in my mouth.
It reminds me of the ‘clown brigade’ they had at the G8 meeting in Germany recently. When you’re seeking the national spotlight to draw people to your cause you can’t look like a fool and expect people to rally behind you.
Dressing up in pink and shreiking might get you sympathy in San Francisco, but you’re really just alienating the rest of America. How can any part of the country, except the most extreme liberals, get behind a group like this?
Rice is not qualified for her current position and she has neither the character or ethical foundation to stand down. She has foreign policy knowledge, just not the Middle East. You have to ask what her motivation is for the blatant lies and general disrespect for the American people and her concommitant ass kissing around the White House?
We need more of this to break down their resistance. Get in their face—peacefully, lawfully—and remind them to be the honest, decent, honorable, law-abiding citizens they once were (yeah, probably prior to their first job).
Looks to me like Aunt Jemima is whistling Dixie.
But I would like to see which pair of Ferragamos she was wearing–the ones she bought while African Americans were drowning in Louisiana.
I bet they are the same Fuck-Me pumps she wore to dance on the victims’ graves.
A firing squad is much too good for folks like her.
The real LUNATIC are the ones sitting in Congress and in the White House & VP residence. I wish I had the courage of the Code Pink women. I wonder, as someone previously stated, where are the men ??? Why is it always the wives and mothers who have to step in to save them>??!!
The Body Snatchers who invaded the US only made off with testicles.
That’s all they needed to take.
I love how some insist despte the evidence. It does nothing claim some… yet 128 posts! Code Pink is not alienating anyone except those who don’t want anyone to do anything at all. Look at how many people felt excited and encouraged by this Pink’s stunning courage. It makes you want to do something too or work harder. Wasn’t that part of Pink’s intent. Americans showing the powers that be that business as usual isn’t going to be as it usually is. Americans take heart and inspiration from Pinks.
Do people know them…millions upon millions do. We actually look forward to them and communicate our respect for them to others. People join their ranks. This is direct action of a positive kind which people from all walks of life can respect. This wasn’t violence or …um…what was that guy suggesting when he mentioned a military installation anyway? Some other brain mentions uzis and grenade… yeah right. I guess mindless and idiotic violence isn’t going to alienate people huh? Geeze.
Instant gratification generation wants it now? Yes well no one wants to hurt rice or anyone else. What a fiasco that would have been had that happened. Beware agent provocateurs.
Have faith in your own enthusiasm for Pinks. That should tell you how effective their actions are becoming right there. There are many more out there who feel the same way and haven’t posted about it here. Their numbers are growing BECAUSE Pink doesn’t alienate people and so people want to participate.
We like Pinks. We like America having Pinks. They inspire people. They inspire us. Brava Pinks!
Thank god someone got in Rice’s face with the truth. The bush administration has been crashing through its term(s) setting policy and practice by out-moded, antiquated, dogmatic theory from cold-war consciousness. Their misconceptions have led to the failed policies in the Middle East, and to inaction on the global issues that truly matter.
Ah, the Secretary of Chaos & Deceit, of the Duperpower, who has as good as declared war on Iran today. Man, I could not believe how she couldn’t look a single camera straight in the eye when she made that loathsome announcement, what a duplicitous bitch. America, get these criminals out of office before WW3 actually starts and you find yourselves needing to be liberated by the rest of the world from the fascists that rule you.
To lillilu:
Who said anything about Machine Guns? We’ve been told violence is wrong this whole time, and violent actions have not been taken, but non-violence is protecting the State, and so long as you protect the State, they will continue this war and other wars. Code Pink gets a message across, you’re right, but that is all. They are good at getting across messages that they are against the war as is every liberal activist at the anti-war marches which are peaceful, just as Nanci Pelosi is good at giving a message that she is against the war. However, a message is all that is getting across. I understand your object to violence against other human beings, as I myself object to violence against human beings (unless of course it is in self-defense in such circumstances as when the pigs (cops) are attacking people at protests or arresting people). I used to feel the same way that you do, that violence is wrong no matter what, but it can be used for a good things without hurting people. I am not just speaking of violence either, I do feel there is a place for peaceful direct action, but, other tactics which involve violence against property are purposeful. An example would be protesting in front of a corporation that is creating material for war and benefiting the war, or taking up methods to prevent their ability to make those materials without submitting to violence against another human being.
Code Pink doesn’t really do anything, and neither does Cindy Sheehan. None are doing anything useful to challenge the powers that be, and to end the wars once and for all. Sheehan is running for Congress, how is that helping anything? She’s participating in a government an oppressive government, a system which promotes inequality, a system which creates slavery, poor conditions for human beings and animals, and destroys the environment. She can try and make a difference through the government but it will never happen, and it is probable that the power will corrupt her. She won’t make any significant change, and her efforts would be better served to work towards abolishing the government, and Capitalism as would everyone else in this movement. This movement isn’t accomplishing anything realistic, and it is time to face this. I am speaking to you as an individual who once had the same beliefs, who once followed the same failed concepts. War is a product of the State first of all, and none of these groups are willing to challenge the power of the State. They will obey, as will the rest of you, the powers that be. You will obey all the laws and rules, you will not risk anything serious except for ineffective uses of civil disobedience, and you will not have ended the war in the end, or prevented an attack on Iran. I am not suggesting doing nothing, just taking upon different tactics and strategies, and ending this useless reliance on authority once and for all.
Iammyself-
That is easy to say, but is it true? Just because Margaret Mead says it, does it hold some truth? Civil rights for black people? Womens rights? Are those the accomplishments you want to list by your movements? Blacks are not equal to Whites still, and Women are not equal to men. Hurricane Katrina happened, and anyone with sense recognized the injustice that happened, and the racism that was present. Women are still making less in wages, and are still not equal to men. Violence against women still exists and isn’t being taken seriously. Discriminations are still present in this system. And what have your social movements done for immigrants? Have they accomplished anything seriously for them? You know, the Nader’s Raiders accomplished many things in their efforts, but then what happened to all those things? Where is the EPA today? What wonderful things are they doing? Global warming could lead to more than half of all species on Earth going extinct. It is doing nothing serious to regulate the pollution from corporations. All of the things that they accomplished, where are they now? If your social movements have accomplished so much, then why was there even an Iraq war? Why is there still an American empire? Majority of Americans are slaves (don’t think that just because we aren’t wearing chains that we aren’t chains). We have a system which creates us into masters and slaves and oppresses us. We don’t have freedom. We aren’t equal. The majority of the wealth of this country is still in the hands of a small percentage of people, and those people have control. Why are corporations still allowed to use sweatshop labor? Why are there so many who are poor still? So you tell me, with all of your massive movements, what positive social change exists? And can you prove them? Can you show me some proof that any gains have been made by your type of movements?
Direct Action is what brings about positive social change, but ultimately, as long as we still live in a hierarchical society where we are not free and not equal, then it will be a constant battle over and over. These liberal movements are not really fighting for real social change, just small differences to be made. As far as the peace movement is currently concerned, it has achieved the election of more politicians who don’t give a shit. It has just elected government again, just replaced old power with new power.
We need to focus our efforts on overthrowing the government, and creating a society in which there are no rulers, there is no hierarchy, and we are in control of our own lives-we need Anarchy. Throwing a wrench in the war machine, protesting against the actions of the government, the wage-system, wage-slavery, the destruction of the environment, etc etc, these can all be in efforts of overthrowing the government as well and indeed should be, for the hierarchy depends on these things.
I am not arguing against people bringing about social change, and the power which people can have, merely stating that the actions that the peace movement and other mainstream movements are taking are useless and ineffective. You might as well not be doing anything at all. If you read all of my comments, you will see what I am suggesting we do instead.
Anarcho, thank you for your interesting posts. I’d say more, but I need to get some sleep so I can get up in the morning.
lillulu October 25th, 2007 12:29 pm
Interloper, you sound like a right-wing idiot to me. What “sexist” or “racist” statement did I make about Rice? I will wait for your answer. ????
Are you suffering from a multiple personality disorder? Or is it that you just can’t THINK? How about these..
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RACIST & SEXIST COMMENT:
lillulu October 24th, 2007 4:37 pm
Condoleeezzza Rice wants to be white so bad, she wouldn’t dare be seen with her hair not straightened. What’s with the red rouge on her cheeks? Another ridiculous attempt to be white. How pathetic.
EXTREMELY SEXIST COMMENT:
lillulu October 24th, 2007 5:16 pm
I wonder why she never got married and had children. Most women like children enough to do that. She seems like a cold, calculating person. Look at her picture. LOL
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If you oppose what she stands for, tell us WHAT it is and why, the whole world knows she’s a BLACK WOMAN!
I explained why I thought YOU were a idiot (see previous post), why don’t you explain why you think I’m “right-wing” or an idiot too or is the idea of a fact-based debate beyond you?
Again, the merest notions on civic discourse eludes you. Own up and stop pretending you understand progressive politics or are a progressive yourself!
The only way the capitoil pigs will cut back on their repression of non-violent dissent is if they are sued every time they are videotaped violating someone’s constitutional rights. Even then, it is presently worth the out of court settlements to the power brokers to arrest-detain-release anyone who goes against the grain of the warring class, if they can keep the story low profile. When incidents like this, or the detention of Col Ann Wright in Canada (at the request of the FBI) make it into the public awareness, then the corporate-capitol junta has to stay up late at night devising more elaborate schemes to delude us. They are sleep-walking a frayed tightrope in a hurricane, and when they fall they die. The whole world is watching with bated breath.
“Interloper,” (why do you call yourself that?) you’re really very race sensitive, aren’t you. You’re beginning to sound like a junior-high school kid flinging insults at me. As I stated previously, Rice impresses me as a person who is a self-hating black. She and her parents were against the Civil Rights movement. I think that’s weird. After she got where she’s at with the help of Affirmative Action, she turned against it. To me, that qualifies her as an “Oreo.” In addition, she loyally serves a bunch of rich, greedy, right-wing extremist old white men in the party that has had the reputation of being racist, the GOP.
If you want to play the race card because I dare to criticize her, then you’re the one with the problem. You don’t even know what race I am. I’ve always stuck up for blacks if they were out-numbered and if I thought they were being treated unfairly. I think you’re a progressive poseur, talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Rice is an anomaly – as an only child she was probably spoiled which would explain her disregard for others, e.g. innocent Iraqis being killed (and Iranians in the near future) over her and Bush’s lies. She’s over 50 so she’s an old maid, spinster, loner, whatever you want to call it. I’ve never heard of her so much as having had a boyfriend and it seems strange to me. If you want to call me a sexist because of it, be my guest. Personally, I think she’s too stuck on herself and much too ambitious and egotistical to get married and have children since it would cause her have to think of someone other than herself. I heard she was not well liked at Stanford.
Rice is a war criminal, a liar. She’s cold and arrogant and not a person I admire or respect. Case closed.
Rice is alone because because she “shole is ugly”.
Now let’s get the number of protesters to consistently number in the 1000’s instead of just a handful of brave individuals. It’s time to step up and take the country back from the fascists that have stolen it. They’re ALL war criminals… ever single senator, congressman, and member of the administration. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Why? Because they’ve done NOTHING to stop the slaughter, they’ve done nothing to stop the relentless march towards fascism… They’re ALL guilty. I personally would LOVE to see Bush, Cheney or any of the other fascists arrested upon landing in another country and tried for crimes against humanity… just as the Nazi leadership hung from the gallows after the war, so should Bush et al.
sLiMsHaDy…..LOL, you said it, not me. She’s kind of scary looking in some of her pictures.
elmysterio, I second that.
You all have a good weekend.
So bleve
What have you done lately to stop the war. These white house people want to live lives insulated from their bloody deeds. Thank God for those who will not let them. I pray the French will put the war-criminal Rumsfeld on trial. That will get their attention.
the anarchist rhetoric can be soooo appealing…in a vaccuum.
What, in reality are YOUR thoughts of overthow capable of producing given our currnet poltical climate. hmm??
Wonderful, marvelous, picturesque, poetic, revolutionary, inspiring didactic, doctrinaire juvenile nonsense. Exactly where is the social movement behind those ideas?
lillulu October 10th, 2007 7:26 pm
So why didn’t Bailey’s mother move somewhere else? She said Jena has always been a racist town. I’m not saying it never happened, but in my lifetime I’ve never seen whites beating up on blacks. I have seen, however, blacks beating up on whites for no reason other than they were white. If the white kid that got beaten up went to a party the same night, good for him. At least he wasn’t staying at home playing the victim, trying to make it seem as though he was seriously hurt.
Racists come in different colors, not just white.
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lillulu October 11th, 2007 3:24 pm
Marsh, I don’t know what your point is about him looking white. I meant he just didn’t look like a badass. He looked like a decent kid from the news clip on TV, and so did his parents.
I’m wondering why rich “blacks” like Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Oprah Winfrey, etc. haven’t contributed to the Jena Six legal fund. I’ve heard of white people like David Bowie contributing $10,000 for their legal defense. I undestand they’ve received almost $200,000 for attorneys’ fees.
I’m not white, by the way (nor black). American blacks’ blood is mixed with a lot of white blood. One more thing about this subject; if a “black” person lives in a racist town, they can always move. Whenever I express any displeasure about what the U.S. government does, I’m told to get my ass out of the country, so I guess it’s okay for me to suggest that the “blacks” move to another town to avoid racism. Los Angeles might be place they’d consider since there’s a large “black” population there.
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lillulu September 23rd, 2007 1:30 am
If racism against blacks is so prevalent in this country, how did Condi Rice get the position she has? How about Oprah Winfry? She’s a billionaire. Not to mention many other rich and famous blacks.
This whole thing has become kind of boring. If you want to see racism, go to a Native-American reservation to see its effects. Caucasians don’t pick on blacks because there’s more of them. It’s not the same story for the fewer Native-Americans.
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So you posted all the above as your way of “always sticking up for blacks”, why would you want to do that anyway?
“Playing the race card”, “race sensitive”, “self-hating [insert bogey minority group here]” - these reveal a lot about who you are, regardless of who you are pretending to be here. Honestly? You can’t see any irony here?
My mistake was to engage you in debate at a level you don’t even know exists, so I apologise, I realise you can’t know what you can’t know!
Condoleeza is a failure on all counts; a woman, a black, a politician and a human.
I agree with this and I’m all of those things except a policitan.
I’m gonna bet Hillary Clinton would be appointing a Secretary of State with a different world view.
How weird that Nonobservant Interloper would keep track of my every post. Is she Condi Rice? LOL……..it’s kinda creepy that she’d save my every post.
I live in the real world, and I’ve seen racism from blacks towards whites in big cities like Los Angeles and Seattle — and it wasn’t pretty. She/he can deny it all she/he wants. That doesn’t mean I hate blacks. My step-father was a Creole from Baton Rouge, and he was a wonderful father to me and my two beautiful half-sisters. He treated me kindly and I loved him.
The love of my life is a Creole from Central America, another wonderful man.
I’m half Native-American and half Swedish, raised by Native Americans in a small fishing village. Any time there were blacks here, I made sure to make friendly overtures to them and to make them feel welcome since there aren’t many here.
Now tell me I’m a racist again, Unobservant Interloper. You’re an ignorant, biased person who uses the race card and pretends to be a progressive. I’m going to ignore your posts from now on. That’s a promise.
Unobservant Interloper, one more thing and I’m done with you. Even if I were a racist as you claim I am — which I am not — I take everyone as an individual — Condoleezza Rice would still be a cold, calculating, lying, immoral war criminal.
As for you, you don’t represent your race very well with all of these cheap shots you take at someone who criticizes a war criminal “black” person like Condi Rice (she isn’t black as she has white blood like most American “blacks” do). Her color, which you’re very obsessed with, doesn’t cancel out the evil she has done.
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