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Iran Nuclear Crisis Needs ‘Disruptive Diplomacy’, Not Shock and Awe
LONDON - Disruptive diplomacy may be the only way out of the Iran-Israel nuclear crisis, the only way to pierce the hegemony of hypocrisy dominating the power politics of nuclear weapons control, of those who have them, and of those who are accused of developing them.
Otherwise, this weekend’s meeting on Iran’s nuclear program is likely to be yet another missed opportunity, yet another exercise in futility.
Who will meet in Istanbul this Saturday? Iran and the 'P5+1', the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and the only "legitimate" nuclear weapons states under the U.N.’s Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) – the United States, China, Russia, France and the UK, plus Germany.
Together, their collective history with Iran and Israel is one of complexity, pain and – so far as nuclear weapons are concerned – utter hypocrisy. There is no easy solution. What is needed is disruptive diplomacy in which both sides put forward something challenging, and in which everyone gives something up to win peace.
Only four countries sit outside the NPT: Israel, India and Pakistan never signed, and North Korea withdrew.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: by joining the NPT Israel can pierce the veil of its policy of "ambiguity", place its facilities under international safeguards, and begin to dismantle its nuclear arsenal. In this way Israel can help end hypocrisy and build trust. Israel does not need nuclear weapons; these do not offer a safety net, instead they provide a destabilizing influence throughout the entire region.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Iran could equally afford to dismantle its entire nuclear program in favor of smart energy systems, efficient energy use and renewable energy sources. This is not cheap rhetoric. It could be done, and would benefit Iran’s people.
In 2007 the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior embarked on a Nuclear Free Middle East tour to address the threat of nuclear weapons in the region and the threat of another "weapons of mass destruction" war.
Greenpeace commissioned a study showing that a combination of decentralized energy systems, renewable energy use and energy efficiency would allow Iran to reduce its dependence on fossil fuels, end its nuclear program and meet the development needs of its people.
At the same time, Greenpeace activists demonstrated outside Israel’s Parliament, the Knesset, arguing, "Nuclear developments and nuclear weapons in any country provoke proliferation and undermine security region-wide."
What about the so-called P5? The high-handed posturing of Iran’s principle accusers requires some scrutiny. They are the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. They are proof that nuclear weapons provide a seat at the top table of global security and thus power politics. Why else would Britain and France still have their own chairs? What right do any of them have to discuss illegal, so- called "preventative" attacks on a country?
Together they stand for over four decades of bad faith. Under the NPT they promised to disarm in return for all other signatories forgoing nuclear weapons. The P5 committed to negotiate away their deadly nuclear arsenals. They have not done so. Instead, they continue to invest; they continue to modernize their nuclear weapons and delivery mechanisms; they continue to undermine global nuclear non-proliferation efforts.
Before accusing Iran of duplicity, the nuclear weapons nations need to stop and reflect. In reality the grand bargain of the 'Atoms for Peace' pact at the heart of the NPT was always a dangerous lie. A diplomatic deceit promising to control the spread of nuclear weapons in return for support in developing nuclear power, an abundant power source that was supposed to be clean, safe and reliable, though it turned out to be dirty, dangerous, and expensive. A pact that Iran agreed to, but Israel has not.
Nuclear power and nuclear weapons are the Janus faces of nuclear technology: you cannot have one without the other. No amount of agreement, treaties and inspection will ever remove the risk and temptation of a nuclear power state becoming a nuclear weapons state.
It can be made harder, but never impossible. Just as the risks of meltdowns are present at every reactor site, the risk of nuclear proliferation is attendant in every nuclear program and the temptation to balance the possession by others of nuclear weapons is always there. The temptation to enter the arena of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) is ever present.
The world does not need nuclear power. Greenpeace’s Energy [R]evolution – developed over many years with leading scientists and engineers – shows how we can avert catastrophic climate change, phase out nuclear power and transition to a clean energy system based on smart, efficient use and renewable energy sources.
As the first anniversary of the Fukushima nuclear crisis passes it is even more significant to note that this crisis was man-made, predicated on the inherent failures and risks of civil nuclear power. The earthquake and tsunami may have been natural in origin but the profit-before-safety ethos that pervades all industrial activity left the people of Japan and the world vulnerable to multiple nuclear meltdowns. For all its so-called reliability Japan is down to only one operating nuclear plant.
It is hard to see how any plan to bomb Iran into submission will do anything other than protract the problem and threaten to ignite a powder keg of conflict in the Middle East. As ‘The Economist’ has noted, bombing Iran will not eliminate the nuclear threat.
In truth, only a world free of all nuclear technology will help to build a workable trust on which to build a lasting peace. In Istanbul, governments should dare to disrupt the endless cycle of hypocrisy, accusation and counter-accusation and take real steps towards peace.
If we are really concerned about human security, if we are really concerned about our children and grandchildren’s peace and security, then we should be mustering all investments to move us in a direction of green, clean, renewable energy options. We must recognize that our quest for nuclear energy, the attendant threat of nuclear proliferation, and our reliance on fossil fuel-based energy have been the major drivers of conflict, war and flawed foreign policies.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: those from whom we borrow this world, for whom we keep it in trust and who are always caught up as collateral damage in foolish wars and sanctions – our children – deserve a clean, green future free of the threat of nuclear accidents and nuclear war.
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Show AllThis is a lovely bold essay.
Academic speak, career speak and political speak are not in it.
Time to recognise that change comes not from the bourgeois who studies for promotion but from the thinker, the artist, the protester, the mother and father.
The former must be made to sit in the public service seat and not the leader's seat. The latter must be reserved for the people, for those who do sit in it are the people.
All of this is fine and good, but coming from the wrong direction. The Iran situation has little to do with nukes and even less about oil. It has to do with Iran setting up a trade in other currencies than US dollars. THAT is what it is all about. After all, North Korea has nukes and we are not threatening to bomb them if they don't give them up. Likewise Israel and Pakistan. All illegal under the Non-proliferation treaty.
No, the problem is the dollar falling from it's special slot as the world's petro dollar. If, no WHEN, that happens the Us empire is over, and the masters in Washington know it. Saddam was not invaded for W.M.D.s, he was killed because he was selling or going to sell oil for Euros. Gone! Gaddafi was trying to set up a new currency to be used in African countries for trade, and it was to be be based on gold. Gone!
Now we have the BRICS and others arranging for trade with other currencies and the Empire is panicking. They cannot be bombed into submission as several are nuclear countries and several are the Empires loan officers. And all are giving the Empire the finger.
To my mind this matter of currency is a part of the bigger point Naidoo is making. Yes we know the US depends for its wealth on the status of the US dollar. Yes we know the US promotes the idea that war is peace and consequently regards business as war. It has always done so in my fairly long life, moreover history shows me the tendency started at the time of the American war of Independence. Piracy paid then and they have always simplistically believed it will pay.
What Naidoo is discussing is what we must do to have a future for the USA is the Mother Earth's greatest problem and we all have to live on this world.
And yes, this means the dollar problem has to be dealt with too.
Good point, otherwise Kumi's advice on nuclear is fine. Should be the way to go, but as long as Israel has nuclear hegemony (or even worse with it's openly stated mad-man Samson option), and the US presses on with its own imperial plans to bottle up all the world's resources in its hands, then they'll just find another issue to beat the Iranians with.
@Makati1 – “The Iran situation has little to do with nukes and even less about oil. It has to do with Iran setting up a trade in other currencies than US dollars. THAT is what it is all about.”
I agree that nukes and oil have nothing to do with the issue. However I also think that currency is only part of the picture. Iran must be destroyed in its current form, because Iran is a “rogue state,” which means it is not controlled by the bankers, speculators, bond markets, and private corporations that control the West. Iran has a middle class. Iran has free health care for the poor, and cheap health care for everyone else. Iran has food and fuel subsidies for the poor. Its central bank is state-owned, and its currency is the rial (not the euro or the dollar). Its stock market on Kish Island is state-controlled, in order to prevent corruption and fraud. Iran is more self-sufficient than any other Middle Eastern nation. Iran has not been privatized, globalized, and “liberalized.” Iran does not have McDonald’s, or Wal Mart. Iranians are not in massive debt to private bankers. They are not plagued by chronic obeisity and heart disease.
All these things and more make Iran a “rogue state” (i.e. a nation that has some measure of independence). During the 1960s, Vietnam sought total independence, and thus became a “rogue state.” Vietnam was forced to seek Soviet aid when the USA invaded. Qaddafi’s Libya was a “rogue state.” So is Syria and Venezuela and Myanmar and North Korea, and just about any nation that has independence. All "rogue states" must be destroyed to advance globalist control.
Nukes and oil are mere smokescreens for this. We ourselves maintain that smokescreen when we ignore reality, and we participate in the chatter about nukes and oil.
I was sort of agreeing with this piece, until the author suggested that Iran give up their whole nuclear programme, simply as a result of Israel joining the NPT and getting rid of their nuclear weapons.
I have heard of "Eutopia but this is something else.
On a more realistic note, Israel joining/signng up to the NPT (and allowing full inspections) would be a start, and indeed is something which Iran has suggested in the past. The fact remains, that when these meetings take place, there is nothing offered to Iran, nothing on the table to negotiate with, simply a threat of sanctions/possible military action against them, if they do not give in to the demands of Israel/US.
As long as this scenario exists, then there will always be conflict and diplomacy will not be given a chance.
It's the same old story. I've (meaning the USA) got what I need. Now let's stop this nonsense and look for a better way.
This Author makes an important point- thats the under-LIE-ing message behind this hype about Iran's nuke prog & the fatal flaw in the NPT- is that a so-called 'peaceful' nuke power prog is inextricably linked to a potential nuke weapons prog! They are NOT inherently inseparable- yet the NPT allows so-called 'peaceful' nuke power prog & the IAEA actually promotes it! There are several countries doing exactly what Iran is doing & thus technically are also potential nuke weapons proliferation risks IE: Japan, Germany, some Scandinavian Countries, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Brazil, S.AFrica, etc. Yet only Iran has been singled out. And Israel is allowed to bring accusations against Iran- which has signed the NPT, even though Israel refuses to sign the NPT- Humm. [Just like the US is allowed to bring charges against others {IE: Khadaffi & Sudan's Pres} to the ICC even though the US rejects the ICC's jurisdiction RE the US- Humm.].
Great article. Exactly what needs doing - and I agree - free of politics and double-speak.
My wife and I were just up in the wee hours discussing the world situation, which directly affects our small family.
There seems to be so few who think like the decent man who wrote this article.
Social Darwinism seems part of life, much as I hate to admit this.
Necessity brings people together - shared necessity that is, but the rich seem almost a separate species, and regard the 99 percent as something disposable, in fact, in need of disposing of, as Lester Brown is right I think - five billion is the maximum carrying capacity of the planet just now.
And even when necessity brings the non-rich together?
Has not Katrina dispelled forever the illusion of the smiling and good-natured face of humanity?
Look around - what is it now, seventy percent can't even figure out that global warming is real and man made!
And we don't know how to eat, work or even play in a healthy manner.
I don't know Kumi - I see little reason for optimism.
Physically, I think the natural world is signalling that we are now in the mathematical position known as critical slowing down - just prior to a change of state.
Geo-politically - it would be laughable if it weren't so tragic.
The Iliad and the Odyssey got it right I think - and we have never developed the common sense to make things better. The UN is now, for me, a bad joke - and utterly incapable of delivering - thanks to geo-politics and the so called democratic nations, which have proven themselves so shallow as to be invisible.
Manysummits
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The only just and sane solution is for no country to have nuclear weapons or for every country to have nuclear weapons. The former is a much better solution.
PS: Israel's "ambiguity" regarding its considerable nuke arsenal (arse?) is unadulterated BS--they world knows it has them, and if they don't, how about then just letting in inspectors to verify?
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http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gandhi-on-jews-and-hitler-incredible.html
What a disgusting video. The full text of the letters to Hitler can be read here: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/new-film-on-gandhis-dear-friend-hitler-letters/170502-8-66.html
Orwell's opinion on Ghandi: http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/site/work/essays/ghandi.html
Read them for yourself in their entirety, because this video intentionally misrepresents them.
The swastika is an ancient holy symbol in non-Western cultures (one of the oldest ever symbols according to Mircea Eliade, already used in the neolithic) and the (I think mirrored) image at around 2 minutes probably has nothing whatsoever to do with Nazism. The quote at 1:12 is probably from Arun Ghandi who said (according to what I could find) "pressures on Germany" and not "conduct of the Jews in Germany". Ghandi is no hero of mine, but this video is pure bullshit lies.
Thanks for the Orwell link.
His commentary on Gandhi is impressively lucid and insightful.
Obedient Servant
Yes - I agree - "impressively lucid and insightful."
I was struck by the power of Orwell's mind:
~ one must choose either Man or God ~
I see this often with regard to 'born again' Christians. Some, thankfully, remain human enough to resist this inhuman choice of God first - and both literally and figuratively - damn pretty much everyone else.
It feels good to be human, but requires a rather high pain tolerance - or is it courage?
I was also struck by Orwell's point that dealing with the "lunatic", or the "insane" - may not be possible - at least dealing with them rationally. Just who and how many in our society might this designation apply to?
Edward Gibbon pointed out in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" that 'the philosopher regraded all religions as equally false...'
If one were to agree - would that not place a rather large percentage of the population, unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality - in the category of the insane?
And with these superstitious religious beliefs a central part of one's personal identity - would this not drastically color their view of the natural world in all of its aspects? The world is only six thousand years old - apocalypse now - the second coming - rapture imminent - Jerusalem now?
What is a believer to make then of evolution and the newly discovered cosmos, of manmade global warming?
In short - one might have to choose between Man and God?
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"was also struck by Orwell's point that dealing with the "lunatic", or the "insane" - may not be possible - at least dealing with them rationally. Just who and how many in our society might this designation apply to?
Edward Gibbon pointed out in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" that 'the philosopher regraded all religions as equally false...'
If one were to agree - would that not place a rather large percentage of the population, unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality - in the category of the insane?
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For someone taking about rationality, you are making a lot of logical flaws here.
rfloh
You have a point - or are you a religious fanatic?
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"If one were to agree - would that not place a rather large percentage of the population, unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality - in the category of the insane?"
Good question. This rant is somewhat connected to it but overall a bit OT:
Thinking that we have some easy and universal way to distinguish between "fantasy" and "reality", ie. that we have some direct connection to reality, not filtered by our own mind and psychology and society and culture, is itself pretty stupid, ignorant and arrogant to say the least. There is no such way. In fact, this issue resulted in one of the largest human projects ever - science. It is a difficult question, and this arrogant approach (mostly coming from militant atheists) is in fact contrary to rationality and the principles of science.
This set of ideas: that religion is all about belief in a God, that there is an "objective" and "rational" (basically, a-cultural) way of deciding on this issue, and that people "choosing" God are all making a clearly "irrational" choice is imo both incredibly arrogant and ignorant. One has to be completely unaware of all cultural history, development of core social and scientific concepts, of logic and "rationality" and the scientific method - in short, the complete historical basis of the Enlightenment - to be able to believe this.
A lot of the most militant anti-religious people understand a few concepts (that have a long, long cultural history behind them, despite being very simple to understand) - and think they should have been similarly simple to everyone before them, and everyone living in a different culture. It took a long, long time for these concepts to develop and for their pedagogy to develop - but absolutist (in the sense that they think their thoughts are "absolute" truths, nothing to do with culture, but an "objective" picture of reality) ahistorical (in the sense that they think these ideas are simple and their own or at least they would have been able to come to them anyway) militant anti-religousness pretends it's just a matter of "thinking straight".
A lot of operational concepts that seem simple enough have a lot of history behind them and that they can be understood relatively easily by people growing up in the right places is also a result of history (of the pedagogy of the concept and the society using it). For example, for us, "atheism" is a pretty simple concept because, among other things, we have an idea of a system from which complexity can emerge by itself (evolution) and we have built machines that can simulate that process with positive results. Whatever one thinks about biological Darwinism, the concept of natural selection based evolution is in fact an operative model, a structure, or even a "mechanism" that can work (and that we can copy on computers at least) and so this makes it much easier to imagine that there are other models from which complexity can emerge. But without Darwin and without computers, we would have a much harder time understanding how most of the world is possible. With them, we at least have some general ideas. With such scientific "hindsight" things look simple, as if seeing "the truth" only depended on a decision based on some kind of "moral courage", as if all that people would need to do is to throw away the crutches of religion. We think that our own cultural environment is mostly the same as other people's and can't see the differences - whether rational or irrational - between different and differently cultured minds.
This of course doesn't mean that I want to defend religious institutions (especially not them), organised religion, religious anti-science and bigotry, its pressure on societies and so on. But I think that a lot of social constructs that aren't commonly considered as religions are in the same category - while a lot of religious individuals and communities are not and even fighting against it. I always bring this up, but in a lot of ways, free market fundamentalism is like a really bad religion. Communism - despite its atheism - behaved in this way for quite a while. So I think the core issue is not "religion", as a belief in the supernatural or a God or other metaphysical structures - a lot of such constructs, given the right circumstances, can become like this, regardless of the substance of the belief, and imo it's not possible to decide what construct becomes such a fundamentalist ideology only based on its substance. In other words, believing in God or disbelieving in God both can be part of a dangerous fundamentalist ideology.
I think you confuse culture and fear.
Much of your post is incomprehensible to me otherwise.
Because mankind, with the big brain, who all of a sudden realized accurately and rationally our certain mortality, developed coping mechanisms to dispel fear, and, like a drug, to kill accurate perception, does not mean that this propensity to fear and mental mechanisms to dispense altogether with reality is a good thing.
Rather it is the fundamental reason we are in the pickle that confronts us all.
Result - in a word - denial.
You don't see denial vis a vis cellphones or television broadcasts - you see denial when people feel threatened - i.e., fear - the same fear that is the root cause of all religion.
The contradictions in religious beliefs are all internal - that is, the assertions are proof positive of an unstable mind - logically inconsistent to the point of the ludicrous.
I could go on and on, but to what point?
Who would I be addressing but the closed mind of the believer.
"Fear is the only darkness"
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I'm not really that impressed any more by "elegant" (ie. single principle) "explanations" of complex social phenomena - that explain nothing and only judge. I have also recognised some time ago that I can't just project my own modern mindset with all the complex concepts developed through thousands of years of cultural evolution back to before the time this evolution happened. These are two of my basic principles when approaching history and society.
Based on the first one (and of course with some minimal reading in the subject), I have come to the (not so controversial, imo) conclusion that religion is a complex social structure with thousands of years of history behind it and it cannot be explained as a manifestation of one single human emotion. Also in general, I do not think that the world - or even just its social aspects - is best explained as manifestations of basic human emotions. For example, I cannot explain religion simply by "fear", because, for example, not all religions have concepts of an afterlife or any form of eschatology. Confucianism, for example. On the other hand, most developed religions that have eschatologies have *retributive* ones which bring some degree of moral justice to the afterlife - so in my opinion, religion is as much about a wish for "justice" (through karma or punishment in hell) as about "fear" (and fear is very often connected to this idea of "justice" - just think of sermon in Portrait of the Artist :-) ). The concept of justice itself seems to have some roots in religion also. (Of course some afterlives (like Valhalla) are more about rewarding a kind of behaviour and not in any way about justice - although tbh I don't know whether this is an independent idea or a less developed precursor).
The second one means that concepts and ideas have their own history. They aren't absolute - the human mind and human society creates them. A lot of them, the most complex ones, and anything that actually explains anything, *cannot* be directly mapped to reality and their acquisition and integration, even in modern times, with all the education and access to knowledge and people with similar interests, takes time and effort - so just declaring people who do not (and most of the time, for practical reasons, cannot) have these same concepts or do not have them in the exact same structure as me as "irrational" or even mentally unstable is not something I like to do. To get back to my previous example: the concept of "justice" is such a complex concept; there were times when it didn't exist and I think its existence (and people's belief in it) is also closely intertwined with religion. Most of the more complex human creations, like religion, science, morality, art are in fact closely intertwined and interconnected. A lot of the more abstract scientific principles have religious or similarly "irrational" roots (a very famous example being the concept of "force" - which Newton came up with based on his work on alchemy). Very important moral concepts, like equality of all human beings, also have roots in religion.
Of course "fear" is a large part of religion, but that same "fear" has also motivated all kinds of social projects, not just religion. Conversely, religion has other roots and components than fear. This is all I'm saying. It's not really complicated or controversial, no matter which way I look at it. It's a pretty common view as far as I can see. There is no need to involve my own psychology in the explanation. And accepting the role religion played in history, with both its positive and negative points, doesn't in any way mean I'm religious or that I base my judgment on belief. Truth can be found only in history, in what actually was, and history is not a pure manifestation of first principles, but, even in the best case, a dialectic of principles and contingencies.
A lot of his stuff is available free on the internet, maybe even most. And I think most of his writings are lucid and insightful :-) I really love his essays. Can't read 1984 again (as it is way too realistic and so scary). but the newspeak "technical" stuff at the end is still incredible.
When I first read 1984 (never again, it is just way too frightening - I can't even handle normal horror stuff, let alone what may be the scariest and most depressing book ever written), it seemed just way too realistic. It looked like a complete, self-contained, impenetrable and indestructible clockwork that could exist for all eternity. Scared the shit out of me. So I kept thinking about what could bring it down - and all I could think of was that the environmental destruction would destroy the material basis of any such society. This was when I was around 16 or 17 :-/
@ Atomsk - Yes, a disgusting video indeed. Swastikas occur all over the world. They were very popular in American until the Third Reich in Germany. Even the so-called "Hitler salute" was invented in American public schools, and never existed in ancient Rome.
As for Gandhi, he initially felt kinship with Hitler because both men opposed British imperialism. But Gandhi turned against Hitler in his second letter to the Fuhrer, perhaps in return for favors from the British occupiers. Gandhi always opposed Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose of the Indian independence movement, who (unlike Gandhi) genuinely opposed British control.
Gandhi was a fraud. That’s why England continues to revere him. I have lived in India twice, and I visited almost every state. Mr. Gandhi is honored in some parts of India, but despised in others.
Ultimately he was a politician, nothing more.
I’m glad that Gilad Atzmon included that video in his web site. I had long suspected that Mr. Atzmon was a Zionist supremacist, like Chomsky, and especially like Uri Avnery. People who claim to favor peace, and Palestinian rights, but remain supremacists. The video removed all doubt.
>>Richard Wilson wrote: "I have lived in India twice, and I visited almost every state. Mr. Gandhi is honored in some parts of India, but despised in others."<<
Would these people who "despise" Gandhi happen to be Hindu nationalists -- either the overt type or the closet variety?
I also disagree that Gandhi is only "honored in some parts of India". He is generally respected all over the country, although these days it is mostly based on superficial knowledge. On the other hand, those who "despise" him know exactly why they do so -- because Gandhi would expose their agenda and fight it, if he were alive today. Therefore he should be assassinated all over again, every chance they get!
Atomsk, great job calling out yet another instance of dirt throwing on the man Gandhi using sources with a suspicious agenda. I particularly like the fact that you decided to bring some perspective here using a couple of well-chosen references, despite "Gandhi being no hero of yours"!
Reply to "Lingum"'s drive-by hit job on Gandhi:
I commented on the same phenomenon on another thread only a few days ago where someone felt compelled to talk about "Gandhi the myth" and how he was "a bitter, sexually repressed, anti-Semitic control freak who thought that Hitler was doing a pretty good job," which I post below after editing (actually not much editing required as it seems fairly relevant to your post too. And if I remember correctly, I have responded to you on an earlier occasion too regarding Gandhi.
>>... you seem to have a compulsive need to throw dirt on Gandhi. Serious students of non-violent resistance never forget that Gandhi was only a human being. Those who project some kind of "deification" seem to have a problem, although I don't know what.
As to the "anti-Semitic" BS charge, has it ever occurred to you that there may be people who are still pissed off with the man for declining to support the Zionist project of Israel, even when specifically asked?
... I have seen the Gandhi quote regarding Hitler. Now I want to see the context -- who did he say that to, or write to, and in what context? ...
... Gandhi's position on Palestine was always based on humanitarian considerations and a rejection of the injustice and violence that the Zionist project would involve.
Writing in the magazine that he edited himself, this is what Gandhi had said in 1938:
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My sympathies are all with the Jews. I have known them intimately in South Africa. Some of them became life-long companions. Through these friends I came to learn much of their age-long persecution. They have been the untouchables of Christianity. The parallel between their treatment by Christians and the treatment of untouchables by Hindus is very close. Religious sanction has been invoked in both cases for the justification of the inhuman treatment meted out to them. Apart from the friendships, therefore, there is the more common universal reason for my sympathy for the Jews.
But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?
Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and in-human to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.
The nobler course would be to insist on a just treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred. The Jews born in France are French in precisely the same sense that Christians born in France are French. If the Jews have no home but Palestine, will they relish the idea of being forced to leave the other parts of the world in which they are settled? Or do they want a double home where they can remain at will? This cry for the national home affords a colourable justification for the German expulsion of the Jews. ... ...
SEGAON, November 20, 1938
"Harijan", 26-11-1938 - (Vol. 74, pp. 239-242)
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So, I'll repeat my question:
Has it ever occurred to you that there may be people who are still pissed off with the man for declining to support the Zionist project of Israel, and therefore may have a particular motivation in spreading dirt on the man?
The communists too have not forgiven Gandhi for for rejecting communism for India if it would involve force, and they too have indulged in a smear campaign since the early 1920s -- not just in Europe, but in India too.
Then there are the Hindu nationalists in India -- one of whom actually assassinated the man -- who have their own reasons to sully the name of Gandhi, such as for "giving away" too much to the Muslims, and to spread their version of history and religion.
And then there are the apologists for the British empire who continue to throw that lame argument that Gandhi's methods worked only because the British were oh-so-civilized and would have failed elsewhere.
So there are all kinds of people with different allegiances and motivations who have a reason to hate, or at the very least, be annoyed with, Gandhi. And the internet is full of quotes to suit any argument. What are YOUR sources for these quotes? Have you looked at your sources more closely?<<
The fact that the video talks about Gandhi's grandson Arun Gandhi as some kind of an evil man and that you have decided to "share" it here shows that either you share in that agenda (less likely) or you are totally clueless about Arun Gandhi (more likely) and his views and efforts regarding the Palestinian struggle and why the Zionists would hate him, and therefore would want to portray him in a certain way.
"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Iran could equally afford to dismantle its entire nuclear program in favor of smart energy systems, efficient energy use and renewable energy sources. This is not cheap rhetoric. It could be done, and would benefit Iran’s people."
Iran cannot back down from nuclear power because it would shrink their leaders' penises. It basically comes down to that.
We have a group of angry men from the west pounding their penises on their podiums and another group of angry men in Iran not willing to think with anything but their little heads.
Can Iran say Fukushima? Why would any sane country want nuclear power when for much less money they could have green, renewable energy.
But this won't happen because we have an entire planet dominated by the defective y chromosome.
No, the leaders of Iran cannot back down from entirely from nuclear power, because the leaders of Iran want to hang onto power, and their wealth; and also, from a national standpoint, Iran is constantly being threatened.
Same thing with "western" leaders, who want control with Iranian resources.
If it wasn't about nukes, it would be about something else.
This isn't about penis pounding. The people who reduce international maneuvring, or war, to "penis pounding" are being naive, or disingenuous. It is almost never about penis pounding, and nearly always desire for material resources, among them oil / energy resources, land (for food), water.
Diplomacy is hard work with complicated processes and no guarantee of full-on success. "Shock and Awe," on the other hand, is simplistic "let's show 'em how much we can blow up and that'll scare 'em into seeing things our way," which is a common thought process among establishmentarian elites but never works. Bombing London didn't persuade the British to give up to Hitler, bombing Hanoi didn't cause the North Vietnamese to give up -- not at all. Japan was thoroughly bombed before Hiroshima-Nagasaki and wasn't ready to give up until the new nuclear technology showed that "shock and awe" can be taken to a whole other new level, now no longer new and astonishing.
That's why places like Iran and North Korea want nuclear weapons, so they can threaten to shock and awe other nations just like the global grown-ups.
"That's why places like Iran and North Korea want nuclear weapons, so they can threaten to shock and awe other nations just like the global grown-ups."
Absolutely not. For both Iran and NK, the reason is the opposite: they want to stay independent, despite the threats against them. Of course this is also connected to their own elites not giving up power, but that is no justification to dismiss the real reason: to counter external threats.
Diplomacy is not going to stop Iran. Diplomacy is a plan that is intended to fail but gives the appearance of a "reasonable" attempt (from the perspective of the more powerful nations) to resolve the problem. Once diplomacy fails, the corporations have gained the justification to extract more wealth from taxpayers by launching a "pre-emptive" war to save the world from Iran. All the arguments about the availability of alternative energy strategies are beside the point that possessing a nuclear weapon gives power status. Iran will be attacked to prevent the achievement of that status and to gain control of their oil supply.
When Helen Thomas asked President Obama about Middle East Nuclear Weapons, he said he did not want to "speculate" but the State Department has reams of documentation regarding Israel's Nuclear Weapons.
In 2005, Israeli Nuclear Whistle Blower, Mordechai Vanunu told this author who became a reporter andis now a candidate for US HOUSE:
“President Kennedy tried to stop Israel from building atomic weapons. In 1963, he forced Prime Minister Ben Guirion to admit the Dimona was not a textile plant, as the sign outside proclaimed, but a nuclear plant. The Prime Minister said, ‘The nuclear reactor is only for peace.’
“When Johnson became president, he made an agreement with Israel that two senators would come every year to inspect. Before the senators would visit, the Israelis would build a wall to block the underground elevators and stairways. From 1963 to ’69, the senators came, but they never knew about the wall that hid the rest of the Dimona from them.
“Nixon stopped the inspections and agreed to ignore the situation. As a result, Israel increased production. In 1986, there were over two hundred bombs. Today, they may have enough plutonium for ten bombs a year.”-
On 18 March 2012, Vanunu wrote, “the way to prevent any war with Iran is By demanding, making many programs about Vanunu's Freedom now struggle, and publishing again all the interviews, Videos, and Dimona Photos. Telling Israel the first step in the Path for M.E. disarmament is let Vanunu go NOW!!"
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The best diplomacy the US could engage in would be to remove the crippling sanctions on Iran and place them instead on Israel, where they belong. Leave them in place until: 1) Israel ceases its belligerent rhetoric toward Iran and its other neighbors; 2) it leaves the Occupied Territories and ceases illegal settlement constructions; 3) it cedes East Jerusalem to the PA; 4) it grants the Palestinian Right of Return; 5) it recognizes the Palestinian state and compensates them for decades of oppression, murder, and humiliation; 6) remove its operatives from US soil. The Zionazis are a much bigger threat to the world than Iran, who hasn't attacked another nation in hundreds of years.
Iran wants what Israel has in Dimona and what we have in greater abundance than the rest of the world combine. We need a nuclear free mideast. Sooner or later an insane leader may initiate a nuclear war unless we get rid of the nuclear race.
Kumi Naidoo writes:
>>What about the so-called P5? The high-handed posturing of Iran’s principle accusers requires some scrutiny. They are the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. They are proof that nuclear weapons provide a seat at the top table of global security and thus power politics. Why else would Britain and France still have their own chairs? What right do any of them have to discuss illegal, so- called "preventative" attacks on a country?
Together they stand for over four decades of bad faith. Under the NPT they promised to disarm in return for all other signatories forgoing nuclear weapons. The P5 committed to negotiate away their deadly nuclear arsenals. They have not done so. Instead, they continue to invest; they continue to modernize their nuclear weapons and delivery mechanisms; they continue to undermine global nuclear non-proliferation efforts.<<
"Four decades of bad faith" is a perfect, but still way too charitable, way of describing the MO of the so-called P5! Universal nuclear disarmament is what the world needs, and that is one area where the so-called P5 will NOT go.
Some among the P5 are not even content with having the capability to destroy the world many times over. The USA, and the Obama administration in particular, is moving aggressively and relentlessly towards a first-strike advantage over Russia with its expansion of the "missile shield" citing the bogus threat from Iran! This is criminal and insane.
And this business about the so-called 'P5+1' including Germany clearly seems to be an attempt to preserve the status quo (all white, except for China) amid a clamor for reorganizing the UN Security Council with more permanent members inducted from Asia, Africa and South America. And Germany is also a leading member of the so-called "Quartet on the Middle East" -- the UN, USA, EU and Russia, with Tony Blair as the Quartet's Special Envoy!!!
Kumi Naidoo clearly highlights the bigger issue here: the hypocrisy and the double standard of the nuclear weapons states. His call for ‘Disruptive Diplomacy’ is a fine idea too and he has articulated what he means by that. But for that to become reality, some of the characters at the top will need be replaced first with those who really want to resolve the "situation" without war.
You know if the western world, Israel and Saudi Arabia were willing to close down all of their plants and destroy all their bombs, I could understand all this hooplah. But they're not. And from what I understand Iran is seeking to generate extra electricty to sell to Iraq, who the western world bombed back twenty years in development and who desperately needs the electricity. I don't see it in any way as a threat.
Much like North Korea trying to send up a satelite, aren't they entitled to one? Don't their cell phone users deserve a satelite of their own?