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Another March to War?
As a journalist, there’s a buzz you can detect once the normal restraints in your business have been loosened, a smell of fresh chum in the waters, urging us down the road to war. Many years removed from the Iraq disaster, that smell is back, this time with Iran.
You can just feel it: many of the same newspapers and TV stations we saw leading the charge in the Bush years have gone back to the attic and are dusting off their war pom-poms. CNN’s house blockhead, the Goldman-trained ex-finance professional Erin Burnett, came out with a doozie of a broadcast yesterday, a Rumsfeldian jeremiad against the Iranian threat would have fit beautifully in the Saddam’s-sending-drones-at-New-York halcyon days of late 2002. Here’s how the excellent Glenn Greenwald described Burnett’s rant:
It’s the sort of thing you would produce if you set out to create a mean-spirited parody of mindless, war-hungry, fear-mongering media stars, but you wouldn’t dare go this far because you’d want the parody to have a feel of realism to it, and this would be way too extreme to be believable. She really hauled it all out: WMDs! Terrorist sleeper cells in the U.S. controlled by Tehran! Iran’s long-range nuclear missiles reaching our homeland!!!! She almost made the anti-Muslim war-mongering fanatic she brought on to interview, Rep. Peter King, appear sober and reasonable by comparison.
Like Greenwald, I was particularly struck by Burnett’s freak-out about Iran’s nuclear program, about which she said, “No one buys Iran’s claim that [it is] for peaceful purposes.” She then cited remarks by Director of Intelligence James Clapper, which, she said, “drove that message home.” But then she ran a clip with Clapper’s quote, which read as follows:
Iran’s technical advances . . . strengthen our assessment that Iran is more than capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for a weapon if its political leaders, specifically the Supreme Leader himself, choose to do so.
In other words, “If Iran were to decide to be capable of making nuclear weapons, it would be capable of making nuclear weapons.” Unless I'm missing something, that’s a statement that would be true of almost any industrialized country, wouldn't it?
Virtually all of the Iran stories of late have contained some version of this sort of rhetorical sophistry. The news “hook” in most all of these stories is that intelligence reports reveal Iran is “willing” to attack us or go to war – but then there’s usually an asterisk next to the headline, and when you follow the asterisk, it reads something like, “In the event that we attack Iran first.”
An NBC report Greenwald also wrote about put it this way: “Within just the past few days, Iranian leaders have threatened that if attacked, they would launch those missiles at U.S. targets.”
There’s a weird set of internalized assumptions that media members bring to stories like this Iran business. In fact there’s an elaborate belief system we press people adhere to, about how a foreign country may behave toward the U.S., and how it may not behave. It reminds me a little of a passage in Anna Karenina about the belief system of noblemen in Tolstoy’s day:
Vronsky’s life was particularly happy in that he had a code of principles, which defined with unfailing certitude what he ought and what he ought not to do… These principles laid down as invisible rules: that one must pay a cardsharper, but need not pay a tailor; that one must never lie to a man, but one may lie to a woman; that one must never cheat anyone, but one may a husband; that one must never pardon an insult, but one may give one, and so on.
We have a similar gentleman’s code, a “Westernized industrial power” code if you will, that operates the same way. In other words, our newspapers and TV stations may blather on a thousand times a day about attacking Iran and bombing its people, but if even one Iranian talks about fighting back, he is being “aggressive” and “threatening”; we can impose sanctions on anyone, but if the sanctioned country embargoes oil shipments to Europe in response, it’s being “belligerent,” and so on.
I’m not defending Ahmadinejad, I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but to me this issue has little to do with Iran at all. What’s more troubling to me is that we’ve internalized this “gentleman’s code” to the point where its basic premises are no longer even debated.
Once upon a time, way back in the stone ages, when Noam Chomsky was first writing about these propaganda techniques in Manufacturing Consent, our leaders felt the need to conceal – or at least sugar-coat – these Orwellian principles. It was assumed that the American people genuinely needed to feel like they were on the right side of things, and so the foreign powers we clashed with were always depicted as being the instigators and aggressors, while our role in provoking those responses was always disguised or at least played down.
But now the public openly embraces circular thinking like, “Any country that squawks when we threaten to bomb it is a threat that needs to be wiped out.” Maybe I’m mistaken, but I have to believe that there was a time when ideas like that sounded weird to the American ear. Now they seem to make sense to almost everyone here at home, and that to me is just as a scary as Ahmadinejad.
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"I’m not defending Ahmadinejad, I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons ... "
I’m not defending _____, I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons ...
Fill in the blank with anyone of the following:
Bush I
Bush II
Obama
Netanyahu
Uncle Sam
and the list goes on ...
What always disgusts me about media coverage of the Middle East is political and cultural ignorance. Ahmadinejad is largely a front for the mullahs. As for his rhetoric, hyperbola is traditional in the Middle East and North Africa.
Is it just me, or are we so deep in debt that we're talking about cutting Soc.Sec. and Medicare? That's a good time to go spend several billion dollars a week attacking a country that poses no threat to this country? The cognative dissonance is astounding. Great piece Matt.
"johnnyred"
Actually, the attacks on Social Security (which are already underway - the "payroll tax holiday is one) and the warmongering are both aspects of corporate control of everything. The various medicare "plans" are part of the scheme to eventually turn it over to the private predators.
There is no "cognitive dissonance" among the corporate capitalists. They are totally focussed. You are assuming that these are people who give a rat's ass about anything beyond money and power.
They do not.
The richest will never be rich enough and decades ago the workers were reduced to "human resources" to be used and discarded in the worship of monetary wealth.
This is typical of how greed and lust for power have always caused empires to destroy themselves.
Only this time, it is a global empire of greed and environmental degradation which has no allegiance to anything other than money.
If these criminals need to lie, manipulate, or destroy this nation or any other nation for monetary gain, they have and they will.
They own the governments of most of the world (especially Washington) and they own the UN.
I enjoyed the article until this:
"Now they seem to make sense to almost everyone here at home, and that to me is just as a scary as Ahmadinejad."
Come on, Matt. It is far scarier that the US little people give a pass to the fiends in charge here. These fiends are several orders of magnitude more malicious and dangerous than Ahmadinejad as they possess weapons in quantity and quality several orders of magnitude greater than those of Iran, Ahmadinejad is not actually in control of Iran's foreign policy or military, Iran does not have the history of aggression, of being bloodthirsty and completely callous, with regard to other countries that the US does, and Iran does not operate under the grand neoliberal delusions of our master plutocrats.
good point
to be outspoken in amerika requires a caveat or a disclaimer
ie: if you write an article critical of zionism then usually the writer has to point out that he is jewish
as far as ahmadinejad goes - i don't think anyone in the west knows this guy at all, one way or the other. he is reduced to cartoon character status as part of the propaganda psyop
is he crazy - is the wrong question because it aint none of our business. he is a leader in another country and whoever they put in power is their business, not ours
is he crazier than obummer
is he crazier than romney
santorum
pelosi
reid
kantor
boehner
or netanyahu
and who is more batshit crazy than avigdor liberman
amerikans are the last people in the world who should be throwing around the crazy politician slurs
not while john mccain or dick cheney still draw breathe...
Exactly. Tabibi fuels the flames of war when he says he is nuts and a monstrous dick. I could say that about a lot of people, but why would a respected journalist who I believe opposes war against Iran, give the war mongers fuel?
"Tabibi fuels the flames of war when he says he is nuts and a monstrous dick."
He also brings the level of his discourse WAAAAYYYYyyyy down with his puerile choice of adjectives.
Matt writes for Rolling Stone and has an infinitely more mainstream audience than any purist posting on CD. He needs to make the article relatable for a more typical American reader. I don't find that to be a malicious turn of phrase, and it's doesn't have any bad implications. It puts things in a context that might, just might, burrow into the thick American skull and resonate.
Your comment is well taken, Peace Czar. It is important to remember that Taibbi is a CORPORATE MEDIA journalist. Not only does he work for Rolling Stone, he has worked , (maybe still does?) for NBC (General Electric). He is not like some of us "purists" on CD. When it comes to designated enemies of the US, he accepts the mendacious premises of the corporate media.
You should change your screen name to Propaganda Czar.
The deragatory use of the word "purist" to describe those who don't tow the line that Iran is run by a madman. This is insulting nonsense, and you use it to support the idea that it is necessary to throw emotional insults at Iran in order to improve the propaganda to get through "thick American skulls" (a very elitist word choice) Matt's insults actually serve to thicken those skulls by framing the situation as the US vs. the madmen in Iran.
I also notice that the word oil is not mentioned even once in this article, and Matt re-enforces the false idea that this brewing war is not all about oil.
Please, Matt, we know you have to diss Ahmadinejad to have some sort of street cred with the average American who has been deluged with such propaganda. However, such talk demeans us all especially when posted on Common Dreams. That kind of talk worked with Saddam a decade ago but it doesn't work with Almedidnajad, who was popularly elected with 60% of the Iranian vote. Our media has gone out of it's way to twist everything he says or doesn't say. It is scary what a zionist translator can do with one of his speeches. Those translations are widely spread by our MSM and become hardened facts. Given the state of Iranian politics, I think he is fairly moderate. As it was pointed out, he doesn't really have control of the Iranian nuclear program. Almedinajad is merely our current Emmanual Goldstein.
Maybe Matt also feels that he has to insult Ahmadinejad in order to have some cred with the corporate and CIA dominated journalistic gang.
"I’m not defending Ahmadinejad, I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons..."
Now, who should "allow" or not allow any other country to have nuclear weapons? The United States, of course. That's what we do: tell everybody else what they can and cannot do. The knight on the white horse riding into battle with the banner of righteousness flying high. The image never changes.
And we must keep reminding the world when our government does this crap that we, the US, are the only country in human history thus far, to have used an atomic bomb on a civilian population....twice! Horrific, and if we don't get control over this corporate state, it will be used again in our name. Dissent is also patriotic. I have no illusions about extremists of every stripe, but foreign adherents are not alone or in a vacuum. One need not look far to see many here. Washington is full of them on both sides of the isle.
"I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons..." Everything Matt says is fine but this little ditty. To be a 'monstrous dick' sends spasms of jealousy through the Washington /N.Y. Axis. Could be the Red Line those tough guy teddy bear neo-con geeks are waiting for to start the bombing.
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Why is anyone, especially those who have an IQ that is higher than a shoe size, listening to the drivel that comes out of the corporate media? Call the corporation that sends the propaganda into your home via the TV and tell them that you desire to cancel your subscription to their lies. Then take your TV outside and place on the curb and smash it to smithereens with a sledge hammer.
Before cable, that made sense. But I get Free Speech TV, and it is worth watching. Have you never seen it?
Fine down to the last paragraph. Then he says everyone is buying this incredibly one-sided version of justice (and he didn't even mention that the US threatens to go to war on the basis of a possibility that Iran MIGHT someday build a nuke, while we all know Israel has 2-300 and gets a pass--and never mind the thousands the US has). But is this so, or is it only true that the "everybody" with a mike on television accepts this? In other words, the Beltway crowd, the media wing of the corporate-government-media complex? I cherish the belief that the American people are better informed and less stupid than they were last time around...but we will likely be told that most of us support a war. That claim is part of the propaganda, part of the manufacturing of consent, persuading us that our opposition is a minority viewpoint that will only cause us personal problems and can't prevail.
But maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses here.
Let's not lose sight of what's really going on here. Iran is now the next step in the total domination of the Mid East by the US and Israel. Replace Iraq's non-existent "weapons of mass destruction" with Iran's nuke scare.
Iran's not playing ball and they will pay. As did Iraq, Lybia, etc..........
Who's the real monstrous dick here Matt?
PS - Paul Wolfowitz to Wesley Clark in 1991: (from a Greenwald Salon piece)
"But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region – in the Middle East – and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet regimes – Syria, Iran [sic], Iraq – before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”
I can't help but think that if Iran actually developed nuclear weapons they'd no longer be a threat. Now that North Korea has nuclear weapons we don't hear one bad word about them. Like they might launch an attack for "no reason" and that they "sponsor terrorists". It would be ironic if the only way to world peace was "total nuclear participation".
Absolutely. The thugs in DC and Tel Aviv only understand one thing: power. And if there is one thing Burnett said that is plausible, it is that Iran is almost certainly seeking nuclear weapons. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone, when faced with war-monger predators which, unlike Iran, have a demonstrated history of terrorism and aggression?
We are starting to have a war deficit: corporations need to move stuff, our morons need to march and shake their fists. (Money spent on elective war is truly well spent, but wasted on Soc Sec, education, school lunches, unemployment, public works, prosecution of white-collar crime, reproductive health, relief of dire poverty) Shall we work for the Green Party, try to disrupt the Place-holder auction in Nov? Since "democracy" is long gone--or never was--disruption is what we have left. Move your banking to credit unions. Shop independent and shop less. Re-use. Small things, but something. I'm afraid we see in Syria what will happen to us if we really threaten our Overlords' War Machine. The CNN twits do have their right to speak their demagogery, and to cash their checks: We must remind people its really a deadly form of SNL. Thanks Matt and CD commenters.
I think you are exactly right about Syria being an example of what would happen to us if we dared to really threaten the status quo.
"Shall we work for the Green Party, try to disrupt the Place-holder auction in Nov?"
Precisely, the urgency for voting for a 3rd party has never been more pressing - a revolution at the polls is the best way to demonstrate very clearly what we want. You can march in the streets all you want, you can site all the "polls" you want, but in the end the ones in the voting booths are the only ones that count with the pols who are running this show.
Both parties are fatally beholden to special interests with money and those special interests are itching for war with Iran. If Obama is convinced we need a war with Iran for him to be re-elected, a war with Iran is what we will get ... and if that happens the only way to stop it is to throw the war mongers out. Only a concerted and convincing threat to his re-election coming from outside has a chance of diverting him from this course, IMO ....
http://www.jillstein.org/
It's just not true that "only the ones in the voting booths" count for the politicians. Surely the people with money can have a huge influence even if they don't bother to show up to cast thir one measly vote.
The Vietnam War wasn't ended because people went to the polls to express their opposition to it. It had to be ended because it was being lost on the battlefield, because it was tearing the US apart, and because morale and discipline in the armed forces was being undermined.
We'll have to leave it to Iran and whatever allies it can find to deter the US and Israel if they can. But in the rest of the world, it is crucial that people "vote with their feet" by coming into the streets, flooding the media, and confronting politicians every way they can.
It would also help a lot if Americans would, for once, reach out to their fellow citizens in the armed forces and work with them to rouse opposition to a war with Iran among their comrades. Let's not wait until the body bags do that work, let's do it ourselves.
The only convincing threat to Obama's reelection, at this late date, can come from the Republicans. And they will be shrieking for war. Dreaming that a serious campaign against Obama can be conjured up at this late date from the Left is pointless. The presumption that the US electoral system is flexible enough to allow such a thing is naive. I'm not talking about repression, just the technicalities and difficulties of finding a candidate, raising money, getting on the ballot, getting media attention, etc.
So the word has to be: everybody out on the streets to stop the war before it starts. Show the establishment that war with Iran will mean disruption, unrest, and massive opposition at home. Reach out to the soldiers and let them know they have other options than simple obedience. Let them know they will find wide support if they refuse to follow orders to make war on Iran.
I was "in the streets" several times in '03 against the Iraq war - part of what is recognized as the biggest demo in history against a war - before a war. Fat lot of good that did ... And doing it again won't amount to much more if TPTB decide war is in their best interests.
You are right that money influences a good deal - but, at the end of the day you can have a gazillion in your political "war" chest, but if enough folks don't pull your lever, you lose. That is what all that money spent on elections is for - it doesn't buy votes, it buys access to the media to convince you to vote in a certain way .....
"This late date" - guess what, there are folks who have laid the groundwork on this already and have been for some time - it is not too late, all you have to do is get on board. The first thing necessary is to believe it can be done - belief in and of itself, is not sufficient, but it is necessary - otherwise you won't even try - and too many for too long have not tried.
So be part of that effort -
All those folks who hate all the money in politics, and just about everybody says they do - promise to not vote for any candidate that has a Super Pac - that eliminates ALL the Dems/Reps. If we just started there we could clean it up lickety split ...
http://www.jillstein.org/
Aquifer: The logic of your post is eclipsed by the knowledge that Touch Screen voting machines can be made to produce the vote count programmed into them. And then there is the pesky problem of things like pesky chads, wrong names placed on felon lists, voting booths in slim numbers existing in Democratic districts, and all other sorts of vote count hocus pocus and devious chicanery.
If we could take the $ out of elections
And if the vote count didn't fall under proprietary laws that protect the machine operators, rather than the public
If politicians didn't lie about their platforms
And if more than 2 choices were allowed
Then making proud proclamations about the wonders of voting... would make sense.
"If we could take the $ out of elections"
And how, precisely, do you propose to do that? Legislation? A Con. Amendment? Both of which need the actions of the very parties who benefit from the lack of either. Want either one? Gotta change the composition of the bodies who are responsible for producing them.
Or, how about folks refusing to vote for anyone who takes money from Super Pacs? Who does that leave? Surprise, surprise - the 3rd parties ....
More than 2 parties ARE allowed - there have been more than 2 on the ballot for some time ... Didn't you notice? Or didn't you vote ...
Voting isn't "wonderful", although folks have fought and given their lives for the right to do it, but ballots, IMO, sure beat bullets - or do you have another idea? If so please share it ...
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We are starting to have a war deficit: corporations need to move stuff, our morons need to march and shake their fists. (Money spent on elective war is truly well spent, but wasted on Soc Sec, education, school lunches, unemployment, public works, prosecution of white-collar crime, reproductive health, relief of dire poverty) Shall we work for the Green Party, try to disrupt the Place-holder auction in Nov? Since "democracy" is long gone--or never was--disruption is what we have left. Move your banking to credit unions. Shop independent and shop less. Re-use. Small things, but something. I'm afraid we see in Syria what will happen to us if we really threaten our Overlords' War Machine. The CNN twits do have their right to speak their demagogery, and to cash their checks: We must remind people its really a deadly form of SNL. Thanks Matt and CD commenters.
My barometer of public attitude on matters political is YAHOO! News. Commentary is almost invariably dominated by the right. When it comes to recent articles on an attack on Iran, however, comments are lop-sidedly hostile to the U.S. engaging in or supporting Israel engaging in such. Almost invariably, comparison is made to the hype building up to the invasion of Iraq. Then comes dismissal of an invasion because attention should be focused on the U.S. economy. Although not often expressed, this latter concern seems to presume the public perceives an attack on Iran carrying an economic cost the country can ill afford. With Oh Bummer facing reelection in November, given the public attitude which my admittedly selective barometer indicates, I do not think Oh Bummer will countenance an attack on Iran before at least November. His primary reason for supporting an attack is to ensure the Jewish/American vote. But, assuming I am correct about the broad public attitude against an attack, in weighing the costs and benefits, the costs of an attack far outweigh the benefits of the Jewish/American vote. Indeed, Jewish/Americans being all gung ho on an attack seems to me problematic anyway, except in the rhetoric of AIPAC. If I am correct in my analysis, I do not think Oh Bummer will countenance an attack on Iran after the election either, because he need no longer fear losing Jewish/American votes, which I think is a scarecrow in any case.
It doesn't matter much whether Obomber countenances an attack. Any attack will almost certainly be preceded by some kind of provocation or false flag event, to make it look "defensive." The propagandists in the media are already laying down the "plausibility" of an Iranian attack (which is NOT plausible). What is more, Israel has a long history of false flag events. It is the stock in trade of their Mossad, something they have done repeatedly to justify their recurring aggressions.
Once the false flag event is perpetrated, Obama will have no choice but to be dragged into war, because he will certainly never accuse the Mossad or the CIA of perpetrating a false flag. False flags must never be mentioned at all. They are the dirty little secrets of nation states.
Yeah, I'll acknowledge "false flag" events. Diane Sawyer has already tried a "false flag" event when beginning a broadcast with Iranians bumping off Israelis, this news "report" accompanied by all requisite dramatic flair. Noticeably, NBC News did not make a big deal out of these hits; neither did "major" newspapers. CBS Evening News is not watched in our household. However, even dear sweet Diane didn't play the assassinations for more than one broadcast. This might be because often appearing in Yahoo! News comments is these assassinations are payback for the Israelis assassinating Iranian nuclear physicists. This is my point, manufactured "false flag" events concerning Iran do not seem to be gaining traction. In fact, the public seems to be recognizing them for what they are. "Bebe" and AIPAC have got to be gnashing their teeth over this. (One last non sequitur. What is Diane Sawyer doing anchoring the news anyway? She perpetually looks like a deer in the headlights.)
Some good points there. Your second paragraph is SO TRUE, and I expect that is what will actually happen.
This quote by Philandrel is grotesque, deceptive, and inflammatory:
" Indeed, Jewish/Americans being all gung ho on an attack seems to me problematic anyway,"
I don't have the link (maybe someone else does) but polls show that even inside Israel, there is no majority consensus FOR war. And certainly not in the U.S., nor among Jews as a total group.
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There are many Jewish progressive thinkers, so for you to paint with a single brush stroke to presume that all Jews support aggression--either by Israel or on the part of the U.S.--is false!
A true Progressive does not take the side of aggression. There are some Jews who may be gung-ho for war, but they tend to be conservatives. Just as much of the MIC may be gung-ho for war and it certainly is not comprised of any Jewish majority.
I am tired of this sort of sloppy analysis. No position speaks exclusively for an entire demographic.
Obama may want Jewish votes, but he'd be more likely to get them if he honored his own word and directed policy towards the things that matter most to ALL citizens.
Obama is not afraid so much about losing Jewish voters. He probably is concerned that very wealthy zionists will fund ad attacks on him.
There are several related factors that fuel the US wars in the middle east. The best succinct summary that I've seen is:
Bank
Oil
Isreal
Logistics (Pentagon/MIC)
The role of wealthy zionists is a factor in US elections. For instance, it's no coincidence that Gingrich began babbling about Palestinians being an invented people shortly after receiving several million from a very conservative zionist casino 0wner.
If one does not genuflect before AIPAC one cannot be elected President.
let us all keep in mind the inconvenient fact that iran's nuclear program is not against the law - any law
they are peace loving and non-aggressive but it doesn't matter. if they want to build nukes they have the legal right to do so
denying rights abroad is soup de jour for amerika just as it has become here in the fuherland - oops i mean fatherland - oops i mean homeland
we used to be "the good old usa" before we took to using nazi language - like homeland - which is a language to make fascism subtly more acceptable
those were the days...
the fact of amerika is that we need wars - endless wars - all the time
we would go to war with the cub scouts of amerika if they were all we could find
iran is not a threat to amerika nor israel either one - but it don't matter
when you look at the clusterfuck we have created in iraq, afghanistan, libya, and egypt - you know all the freedom and democracy we are spreading there - you think we'd stand down and re-assess, but no
for the most part these wars have never touched the furher l;and, i mean fatherland, i mean homeland - oh hell i mean the good old usa, but a war with either syria or iran will change that
we will feel those wars - they are going to ruin the country
just ask goldman sachs and their chief blankfein who have a massive short of 4 billion dollars bet against the decline of amerika
"Goldman Sachs executives deceived clients in order to profit off the brewing financial crisis and then misled Congress when asked to explain their actions, concluded a top lawmaker who led a two-year investigation into Wall Street's role in the meltdown.
Carl Levin, chair of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, will recommend that Goldman executives who testified before his panel, including chairman and chief executive Lloyd Blankfein, be referred to the Justice Department for possible criminal prosecution"
"The investigation found a "financial snake pit rife with greed, conflicts of interest, and wrongdoing," Levin said.
More than any other government report produced in the wake of the crisis, this account names names, blaming specific people and institutions: Goldman Sachs, Washington Mutual, Moody's Investors Service, Standard & Poor's, the Office of Thrift Supervision and others. It targets four types of institutions, all of which it says played key roles in causing the crisis"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/14/goldman-financial-crisis-prosecution_n_848994.html
so the guys who set up the economic implosion in the whitehouse have now bet against amerika. do you think they want to see amerika rebound - it would cost them 4 billion dollars
if i can quote the 8 year old macauley culkin in home alone: i don't think so....
I agree, especially the language point on homeland. Also "freedom" has a nice Nazi-like ring:
"What we have to fight for is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the creator"
- Adolf Hitler. This one has it all -- homeland security, freedom, and a mission from God.
"The German people are not a warlike nation. It is a soldierly one, which means it does not want a war, but does not fear it. It loves peace but also loves its honor and freedom"
- Adolf Hitler. Nothing more honorable than defending your freedom by killing innocent children.
Hitler occasionally spoke the cold truth:
"Only force rules. Force is the first law"
- Adolf Hitler
Obama never will say that.
good stuff tom
Boy is that good news! If Iran is "the biggest threat we (the U.S.) face today" then we have nothing to worry about! Simply stop the rhetoric & open up dialogue with Iran, tell Israel to return to pre 1967 borders, recognize the State of Palestine, end the embargo against Gaza as well as the perpetual 3.5 billion dollar gift by U.S. taxpayers to Israel each year and continue the IAEA inspections so that we can then dismantle the U.S. military and focus on real problems like security for the 99%, the environment, alternative energy production and restoring democracy here at home.
The news is of such Orwellian proportions, that I'm terrified that Americans buy into this crap. Now that students don't bother reading Orwell or learning critical thinking skills, we have redirected our focus on such patriotic past times like... 'support the troops', 'God Bless America' and constant reinforcement of how we live in the 'greatest nation on earth'. I'm afraid that we are developing a fanatical country that has no rivals in history. We have blended theocracy with consumerism to create an ugly hybrid that is ready to devour 'others' to protect our right to shop and accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior. And after watching this incredible delivery of propaganda on CNN, most Americans still call CNN part of the 'Liberal Conspiracy' that is trying to take our freedom away! Wow. This is one f**ked up country.
She a tiny hockey puck, playing illusions for the sleeping masses...Sad.
American Zionists make clear that their first loyalty is to Israel. Why aren't such candidates for office asked whose interest they will be representing? Add that we have dual citizen Israelis and no small number of Zionists being paid tax dollars to set US policy for the Middle East and Israel. Is it any wonder so much of officialdom is beating the go-to-war-against-Iran drum? Our media, of course, considers its mission to broadcast the propaganda.
Erin Burnett, just the latest CNN high profile, low life presstitute. Erin better watch her back. She's trolling the waters regularly swarming with the likes of Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, Andrea Mitchell, Martha Raddatz, Maria Bartiromo and Wretchin Carlson! Wow, now thats a scary lineup of Harpies if I ever heard one. I think I would rather go swimming with a bunch of Tiger Sharks! You would be far less likely to get bit!
"I’m not defending Ahmadinejad, I think he’s nuts and a monstrous dick and I definitely don’t think he should be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but to me this issue has little to do with Iran at all."
Why NOT defend Ahmadinejad? What makes him "nuts"? He demonstrates a lot more sanity than USrael's (mis)leaders, and has for years. It troubles me, though I'm not surprised, that a writer like Taibbi is willing to go this far down the road of accepting absurd premises long laid down by the Ministry of Propaganda. Ahmadinejad has consistently been slandered in the corporate media, in order precisely to make him *appear* nuts.
His words have been twisted into what he did not say--that Iran intends to annihilate Israel. What he said was, as happened to the apartheid regime in South Africa, Israel will vanish from the pages of history. That is quite different from stating Iran intends to wipe Israel off the map. I think progressives should challenge the false, imperialistic premises promulgated by the US imperialists and their cheerleaders in the corporate media. Iran is not the war monger state here. Iran has not attacked one of its neighbors in at least two centuries. Israel has repeatedly attacked its neighbors. And the US has attacked one nation after another for its entire existence. The US has been the most belligerent nation in the world for the last two centuries.
As to the nuclear issue, the US has done more to foster escalation of nuclear arms than any country. It bequeathed these Satanic weapons to the world, used them against civilians, and now presumes to dictate which countries shall acquire them and which shall not. On what basis of legitimacy? None whatsoever. It remains in noncompliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, since it is failing to make any effort at global nuclear disarmament.
The American media always claim that any foreign leader who defies or opposes the US is insane. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Saddam, Nasser, Qaddafi --- all are targeted as "nuts". In fact, none of these men are or were "nuts" in any clinical sense, although, like the rest of us, they had and have their neuroses and foibles.
The tendency to single out certain individuals is an example of the American cult of celebrity, which can attach itself to people whether they are seen as "good" or "bad". In some cases this feeds on the "cult of personality" that some leaders promote in order to establish unquestioned dominance in their countries, and thus becomes a kind of upside down version of the personality cult itself.
Kim Jong-Il inherited the personality cult his father had initiated. It was effective in preserving his power in North Korea, which was its purpose, but had the side effect of making him seem "nuts" to Americans, with their very different style of personality cult. But in both North Korea and the US, Kim Jong-Il had a cult of his personality, one positive, one negative.
Ahmadinejad, who is in many ways similar to a common American political type -- the Mr. Average who is seen as the authentic voice of the people by his supporters -- does not have a personality cult in Iran. He is subordinate to the Supreme Leader, and is content with that status. But, because the Supreme Leader keeps in the background, Ahmadinejad has developed a negative personality cult in the US, which always craves a celebrity. Some of his statements, which are characterized as "nuts" in America, are simply the boorish, ill informed nonsense that people like Sarah Palin spout all the time (and by which they win much support).
America would do better to reflect on its own deep need for celebrities, and whether that need is blinding them to international realities. If there had not been negative personality cults in the US for Saddam and Qaddafi, for example, perhaps the US would have been able to assess the real consequences of acting out the emotion their cults aroused among Americans, rather than rushing to make war on what turned out to have been phantom "threats" to the US.
LEEZ: Good post. Celebrity must be added to something deeper, something that speaks directly to the myth of America's inception: and it is that every cowboy needs an Indian. The tale of the good guy versus the bad guy doesn't work unless the media paints today's poster boy for evil with characterizations suitable to the plot-line. The MIC has become the world's wild wild west collective cowboy enactment, and to prove its prowess on a near-constant basis, it needs a ready supply of made for TV (fiction-driven) enemies.
Imagine the Hollywood minds that went to work designing the Navy Seal kidnap, and oh, so neat/no evidence left behind, "heroic" murder of the would-be Bin Laden?
Designed, no doubt, by the same minds that had Bush reading at an elementary school when the big 911 enchilada came down; or Bush, in macho flight suit on the air-craft carrier to do his own presidential salute to Dirty Harry crossed with John Wayne. Then it's Bush serving plastic Thanksgiving turkey to the troops, and Bush looking under a desk (oh, so funny) in pursuit of the WMD... after a million died for the entire bloodthirsty conceit.
An empire in decline needs a compelling, consistent storyline to latch onto. Saddam, Qaddafi, and now Almadinejad have been unwittingly cast into the plot line. They must be described by the Captured media complex, accordingly.