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Netanyahu Speaks; The Israel-Palestine Ball Remains in Obama's Court
The Israeli prime minister's speech responding to U.S. wishes for the region amounted to little more than rhetorical change.
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin
Netanyahu threw a rhetorical bone to President Obama in his much anticipated
speech on June 14, when he used the term "Palestinian state."
But he conceded nothing of substance, reiterating Israel's continuing
rejection of real Palestinian statehood, independence, sovereignty,
and self-determination. He demanded that the Palestinians recognize
and accept Israel as the "national homeland of the Jewish People,"
not a state of all its citizens, thus requiring Palestinians to accept
the legitimacy of Israel's discriminatory practices. And his speech
continued Israel's escalation of threats against Iran.
Now the Israeli-Palestinian ball remains squarely in President Obama's
court — and the results will be determined largely by his administration's
decision on whether or not to use real (i.e., financial or diplomatic)
pressure, rather than relying solely on public or private urging, for
Israel to comply with U.S. wishes. Without concrete consequences for
Tel Aviv's noncompliance —such as withholding all or part of the $3
billion annual U.S. military aid to Israel, or withdrawing the U.S.
diplomatic protection that keeps Israel from being held accountable
in the UN Security Council — Obama's demands for a settlement freeze
or anything else will have little impact.
"Palestinian State"
It was no surprise that Netanyahu acceded to Obama's demand that he
utter the words "Palestinian state." Despite outrage among
his far-right backers, words are relatively cheap: he never even said
the word "Palestine," nor did he refer to a "two-state
solution" or two states in any form. Instead, Netanyahu described
"two free peoples," each with a flag and an anthem. What's
missing is anything remotely resembling equality or justice.
Netanyahu described "a demilitarized Palestinian state side-by-side
with the Jewish state." He described a non-sovereign, non-independent,
non-contiguous "Palestinian state" that would be forcibly
demilitarized by international guarantee rather than any internal choice;
a "Palestinian state" with no control of its own airspace;
a "Palestinian state" with no control of its own borders;
a "Palestinian state" with no right to sign treaties; and
a "Palestinian state" without Jerusalem. His putative "Palestinian
state" has no known borders, since territory would be determined
only in later negotiations. Israeli settlements, as well as the Apartheid
Wall, the closed military zones, the checkpoints, the settlers-only
roads, bridges, tunnels built on stolen Palestinian land, and continue
to divide the West Bank into tiny non-contiguous cantons or Bantustans,
all remain in place.
Settlements
Netanyahu completely rejected Obama's call for a settlement freeze.
"We have no intention to build new settlements or set aside land
for new settlements," Netanyahu said. So all expansion of existing
settlements — not only for the so-called "natural growth"
which Netanyahu and President Obama openly tussled over — will continue.
Palestinian land, therefore, will continue to be "set aside"
— a polite euphemism for "stolen" — to expand any or all
of the existing Jewish settlements as far as any nationalist or religious
extremists (or, for that matter, any of the yuppie settlers who make
up the majority of the settler population) may wish to build them.
The fundamental problem of the settlements, of course, is not just the
creeping expansion — it's their very existence. All Israeli settlements
in the West Bank or Arab East Jerusalem — not only the tiny propaganda-driven
"outposts" but the huge city settlements like Ariel or Ma'ale
Adumim or the oldest settlements long described as "neighborhoods"
of Jerusalem — are illegal. The 4th Geneva Convention Article 49(6)
prohibits the occupying power from transferring any of its own population
into the occupied territory — settlers don't become legal just because
they live in giant cities of 35,000 or 40,000 people or because they
stay for more than 40 years. The existence of the settlements represents
a continuing violation — and even if Obama managed to impose a full
freeze on all settlement activity, there is no indication yet of what
(if anything) he intends to do about the 480,000 illegal Israeli settlers
continuing to occupy those (however frozen) Jews-only settlements across
the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
Israel as the "State of the Jewish people"
This formulation, a version of which Obama used in his Cairo speech,
is very dangerous. Netanyahu demanded that the Palestinians not only
recognize Israel (a diplomatic action Palestinians have long expressed
willingness to do in return for Israeli recognition of an independent
sovereign Palestinian state), but that they recognize Israel as a Jewish
state. That means recognizing as legitimate Israel's official discrimination
against its non-Jewish citizens. Such recognition would also accept
Israel's violation of the international laws guaranteeing Palestinian
refugees the right to return to their homes on the grounds that a large
number of returning refugees would change the demographic balance. It
might indeed end Israel's permanent Jewish majority, but no government
has a "right" to ensure a preferred racial or religious or
ethnic majority by expelling, transferring, denying rights, or discriminating
against those outside the chosen parameters.
Netanyahu actually admitted he does not believe Israel is bound by international
law or treaties. Israel, he said, needs only to "take into account"
international considerations. "We have to recognize international
agreements," he said, but pay equal attention to "principles
important to the State of Israel." Under that theory, agreements
Israel had already accepted, such as the 2003 "road map" which
required Israel to freeze all settlements including "natural growth,"
or UN Resolution 273 of 1949 which welcomed Israel into the United Nations
on condition that it accept the Palestinians' right of return, are irrelevant
and can be violated with impunity if they don't match "principles
important to the State of Israel."
Israel, the Arab world and Iran
Netanyahu echoed Obama's call for normalization of relations between
Israel and the Arab states. Netanyahu's vision of that "reconciliation"
is clearly tied to his effort to establish, with U.S. backing, an Israeli-Arab
alliance against Iran, describing his effort "to forge an international
alliance to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons." The recent
Iranian elections certainly helped Netanyahu. He will use a confirmed
victory for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the disputed elections,
or even continued uncertainty, protests, and instability in Iran, as
evidence for his claim that Iran remains a direct and immediate threat
to Israel. Netanyahu described the Iranian election itself as demonstrating
that threat and said the "greatest danger confronting Israel, the
Middle East, the entire world, and human race, is the nexus between
radical Islam and nuclear weapons." His audience at that moment
was not only hard-line voters at home, but Israel's supporters in Congress
and elsewhere in the United States, using the "Iranian threat"
to counter any U.S. unease regarding his rejection of Palestinian self-determination.
It remains uncertain how far Obama is prepared to go in building such
a regional anti-Iran alliance. In his speech in Cairo two weeks ago,
Obama urged Arab governments to implement only those parts of the 2002
Arab peace initiative calling for normalization with Israel, while ignoring
the critical Israeli actions the plan recognizes are needed before such
normalization could take place. The Arab plan, endorsed by the 22 nations
of the Arab League, did offer normalization with Israel, but only in
exchange for complete Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 borders, sharing
of Jerusalem, a just solution to the Palestinian refugee crisis based
on international law, and more. Netanyahu followed Obama's lead in ignoring
the Israeli obligations, and in demanding that Arab governments immediately
establish peace treaties, full diplomatic relations, trade, tourism
— in essence, full normal relations — with Israel, getting nothing
in return.
The danger is that such state-to-state normalization between Israel
and any or all Arab governments, if carried out with Israel's occupation
and apartheid policies intact, undermines Palestinian claims, weakens
the Palestinian position in the region and internationally, and legitimizes
Israeli violations of international law. The call for such one-sided
normalization may also be linked to an effort by the Obama administration
to push Israel towards new negotiations with Syria — separating that
process from the Palestinian track. Such negotiations could lead to
some important movement towards ending the Israeli occupation of the
Syrian Golan Heights. But such a move could simultaneously endanger
the central component of Israel's occupation of Palestine. Israel would
try to convince the Obama administration and the U.S. Congress that
any withdrawal from the Golan would be so traumatic for Israel that
the United States cannot press for any motion on ending occupation in
the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, let alone for ending Israel's
lethal siege of Gaza. Just such an impact occurred after Israel withdrew
from the Egyptian Sinai in the context of the 1979 Camp David Accord.
Israel won support for its position that the return of the sparsely
populated Sinai peninsula to Egypt was sufficient to fulfill any requirement
in UN Resolution 242 (or anywhere else) that Israel withdraw from the
territories it had occupied in the 1967 war.
The outcome of the disputed Iranian elections remains uncertain. Civil
engagement, protest, and mobilization is occurring at a level not seen
at least since the student uprisings of 1999; some observers say not
since the Islamic revolution of 1979. But the results remain unclear.
It's important that Obama has remained careful and respectful in his
response, raising concerns about government suppression and the street
violence but making clear that "it is up to Iranians to make decisions
about who Iran's leaders will be, that we respect Iranian sovereignty."
Crucially, he said the United States "will continue to pursue a
tough, direct dialogue between our two countries." Public pressure
must be maintained to insure that Israeli threats of military force
against Iran are not backed up by the United States.
Now, in Obama's court...
Questions remain.
- Will Obama accept Netanyahu's rhetorical use of the words "Palestinian state" as a major concession, sufficient to demand new concessions from the Palestinians?
- If Netanyahu moves one step further and calls for some kind of settlement freeze (whether or not it is actually imposed on the ground), will that be greeted as an important new concession with no response to the continuing illegality of the existing settlements?
- Will the Obama administration's regional strategy focus on building an Israeli-Arab alliance against Iran despite Obama's stated commitment to new negotiations with Iran "without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect"?
- How will Obama respond if there are a few more rhetorical concessions from Netanyahu, even if there is no actual motion on the ground on Palestinian rights?
Or, looking forward…
- Will Obama send his envoy, former Senator George Mitchell, to inform the Israeli government that Washington's next step will be the withholding of this year's $3 billion in U.S. military aid to Israel until there is evidence on the ground, not only in words, of a complete halt in building, selling, recruiting residents, or any other activity in any of the settlements?
- Will Obama announce that continuing to sponsor bilateral Palestinian-Israeli talks is futile when the disparity of power remains so profound, and that instead the new U.S. policy will be to support regional negotiations based solely on international law and all relevant UN resolutions as the basis for ending occupation and establishing a just and comprehensive peace in the region?
Okay. Maybe that last one is still a ways down the line. But stay tuned.
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49 Comments so far
Show AllI have a request for the zionist trolls who will soon be posting their relexive, hate-filled responses.
When you accuse the author of being racist and/or anti_semitic, how about providing quotations from the article which serve as examples of racism and/or anti-Semitism?
You won't, of course, because there are none.
Good article, especially the last bulleted item.
q
quickstepper,
Netanyahu is mistaken to negotiate at all. Israel has nothing it can afford to give away. When Israeli forces withdraw from disputed land, what is the response? Rockets and more rockets. The goal is not now, and has never been a palestinian state. It is now, and has always been to drive Israel into the sea, as Nasser said. Its in the charters and symbols of the palestinian government and culture. Are there legitimate issues? Yes of course. Arabs in Israel seek secular equality at least, but still face discrimination despite having more rights than in any Arab state. Israel was created as a Jewish homeland, and as such, it can't be a democracy in the same sense as much of Europe or the United States is. Until the arab world is willing to accept that a Jewish homeland in the land of our ancestors is legit, there really isn't much to talk about.
Yup, here comes the Zionist trolls outta da woodwork. Nice try at justifying ethnic cleansing, genocide and racist Apartheid; Gimme a break with your bottle-rockets. Israel is per capita the most heavily armed nation on earth, complete with nuclear weapons. Spare me your vicitm BS.
Israel is a proxy for Western racist Imperialism, a textbook case. The neo-Fascist Zionists (and the US Imperial enablers) are going to undermine their own racist state.
Israel cannot survive in its present form. One state, with separate autonomous regions, with equal rights and justice for all, with an international custodianship of Jerusalem would be a fair arrangement. Just like what happpened in the RSA
Boycott Divestment and Sanctions, we gotta fight gainst Apartheid once again.
Socialist:
Why do you single out Israel as the 'ethnic cleanser'? Arab nations expelled their entire Jewish populations during the war of independence, but you don't have anything to say about that do you? You are ignorant, if you think Israel is committing genocide - Do you even understand what that means? Likewise 'apartheid'. As for armaments, the missles that Hamas is firing are not bottle rockets. You're just an idiot.
Israel is not as racist as the ARAB states surrounding it - Where are their Jewish or other ethnic minority populations? Dead or kicked out, fool.
There can't be a single state, because the point of Israel is to provide a Jewish homeland. The arabs already have plenty of places to go. You should get your head out of your butt.
"You should get your head out of your butt." I can see by your eloquent and well thought out reply it is futile to argue with a hatemongering liar like you.
You think with your butt. You did not refute the facts. Your head is still in your behind.
What facts did you put up? That the jews were 'kicked out' by all the neighbouring states? there may have been some kicked out, but most left willingly to join the racist zionist state only to find out that they are second class citizen because of their Arab ethnicity.
There were lots of false flag operation carried out by Mossad in the early days to force the jews from neighouring states to move to Israel.
So what facts are you talking about?
Nobody believed you, so he didn't waste his time refuting you Zionists... yet again...
and again...
and again...
and again...
and again...
and again...
Of course not. Facts mean nothing to you. Israel can do nothing to satisfy people of your ilk except to cease to exist. Well, that's not going to happen.
I'm sorry, but facts have a pro-Palestinian bias.
No wonder you Zionists have nothing but lies and distortions.
Israel is an immoral and illegal invasion, and I admire those who resist this genocidal occupation.
Zionism is a moral monstrosity.
Your comments are not conducive to intelligent dialogue and reveal a narrow minded outlook, sorry.
Intelligent dialogue requires an honest exchange. Your hatred of Jews prevents this. Your brand of 'dialogue' deserves only ridicule.
"Intelligent dialogue requires an honest exchange. Your hatred of Jews prevents this. Your brand of 'dialogue' deserves only ridicule."
You might notice that with each post your mask drops more and more, leaving behind the ugly face of the truth. "Hatred of jews" indeed. Congratulations, you're officially an asshole. Give AIPAC my regards, and I hope they're paying you a decent stipend for your efforts, although I really think they can do a bit better in terms of quality.
One thing you might consider: each time you play the "hate jews" card, you might be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy in the long run. It won't surprise me to start seeing people start hating Jews simply because they're tired of Zionists telling them repeatedly that they hate Jews.
Stick to the fucking argument, rube, or go home.
It's interesting that Arabs and Jews lived peacefully among each other for centuries until the zionists started pushing the Palestinian Arabs out of Palestine.
I see the same old defensiveness in your answers: Israel isn't as bad as (insert name of Arab nation here); Palestinians fire rockets; women are more free in Israel, and so on.
Even if all of these points were completely true (and none of them is), they would not justify the slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza or the continued stealing of Palestinian land through the spread of the illegal settlements.
To that you'll give the tired old lie that Hamas fighters hide among civilians so the IDF is justified in killing anyone that it chooses.
Your "reasoning" is completely tainted by your prejudices and your complete lack of perspective.
The fact that 'A' is not as wrong as 'B' doesn't make 'A' right.
q
'It's interesting that Arabs and Jews lived peacefully among each other for centuries until the zionists started pushing the Palestinian Arabs out of Palestine.'
This is simply not true. Arabs were not 'pushed out' - They sold the land Jews occupied. Many of the Arabs who sold the land were absentee landlords who didn't even live there.
'I see the same old defensiveness in your answers: Israel isn't as bad as (insert name of Arab nation here); Palestinians fire rockets; women are more free in Israel, and so on.'
Not defensiveness. FACTS. You attack Israel for all its so called faults, without ever acknowledging the far worse conditions arabs live under in the arab states. Why is that? We don't live in utopia, and we never will, so you have to acknowledge that arabs have it better in Israel than they do elsewhere. If they have it so bad in Israel, why aren't they voting with their feet to head for the paradise of Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc.?
'Even if all of these points were completely true (and none of them is), they would not justify the slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza or the continued stealing of Palestinian land through the spread of the illegal settlements.'
You are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. Please demonstrate what was untrue in what I said. There is no 'slaughter of Palestinians'. Tell Hamas to stop using human shields and hiding behind civilians. As for illegal settlements, this is nonsense, because the arabs consider all of Israel to be an 'illegal settlement'.
'To that you'll give the tired old lie that Hamas fighters hide among civilians so the IDF is justified in killing anyone that it chooses.'
Israel does not target civilians. Civilians get harmed when Hamas hides amongst them and uses them as human shields. Hamas also employs children as fighters. Now lets see, how does Hamas fight? By indisriminately firing rockets into Israel. By sending suicide bombers to deliberately kill civilians. Moron.
'Your "reasoning" is completely tainted by your prejudices and your complete lack of perspective.'
What prejudices would those be? Let's see, my friends have been injured by indiscriminate bombings while riding on buses and walking down the street. I have an opinion because I've experienced it. Have you? Do you have any skin in the game jackass?
'The fact that 'A' is not as wrong as 'B' doesn't make 'A' right.'
As I mentioned, we don't live in utopia, and we're not going too. You refuse to acknowledge that conditions in arab states are far worse in terms of civil rights than they are in Israel for arab citizens. You're and idiot.
q
I see you make up facts as you go along. The zionist are great at revising history as they go along. I guess you lie long enough you start to believe in your own bullshit.
you accuse me of lying but provide no alternative argument. You're an idiot.
Yes - who should we believe, you or our eyes?
You Zionist will float any lie.
Palestinians, Jews, Greeks, Armenians were united by the common enemy of oppressive Turkish rule.
Now that you've decided to oppress them yourselves, and throwing in genocide to boot...
actually, words fail me at this point.
You communist idiots are brainwashed. Please fall on your sword already.
Hilarious!!
Falling back on calling people Communists!! I haven't seen that in a long time - like an old friend visiting,
YES, YOU ZIONISTS AND RELIGIOUS RIGHT-WINGERS ARE JOINED AT THE HIP.
Man, it looks like the over-used smear of Anti-Semite/Self-hating Jew backfired, so the Likudnik hatemonger resorts to smearing us as Communists? Neo-Fascists of all stripes do indeed stick together. Thanks Benny Mossad, I am a Communist! Now bugger off back to your hate meeting.
Actually Jews historically had it better living among their Arab semitic brothers--who they are more closely genetically linked to, than they ever fared among the Europeans. And the most oppressive Arab states are the ones typically installed and supported by the US precisely to keep the population from demanding more Rights and control of their natural resources. Arabs do not fare well in Israel, they are considered 2nd class citizens and are viewed much like African Americans in the US or as Premo Levy observed--"the Palestinian is Israel's Jew".
Ben for disclosure, you should tell us how much the Mossad is paying you to post your Hasabara talking points.
Everything you people write is an insult to Jews. You call us racists and Nazis? What's wrong with you? The point of Israel is to provide a refuge from bigots like you and your fellow travelors. Go blow yourself. We are not leaving.
How dare you try to validate your political lies with your religion - which I bet that you don't practice anyway.
This thread is about the harrific and self-destructive policies of a nation and not the religious practices of the Jews.
Stop hiding behind your yarmulke. You're a disgrace to Judaism and to humanity.
q
The wages of overplaying the trump card. Nobody takes the joker seriously anymore.
IF you call him a disgrace to Judaism
then you are calling the VAST MAJORITY of Jews a disgrace to Judaism.
I'm afraid he's not the exception but the rule among Jews.
While I agree, a majority US Jews do not support Zionism or Israel (See Norman Finkelstein, Joel Kovel) However, one cannot see that as the Right Wing Aipac Likudniks dominate the political discourse. The problem is not the lack of anti-Zionist Progressive Jews, it is that they have not organized and spoken loudly enough, when they do they are branded as "traitors" and "self-hating Jews" and the MSM shuts them out. Sound familiar?
My lord, socialist, all you have to do is look around you
the VAST MAJORITY of Jews are either actively pushing to destroy anyone who wants any Palestinian rights
or are allow others to speak in their name.
Not to split hairs, a personal anecdote does not prove anything. Finkelstein and Kovel have research and primary data to back up their claims. Google them, you will likely find the info without having to read several of their books.
But the fact remains and we are in agreement: Anti-Zionist US Jews must step up the effort against Israeli policies. Do not be afraid of being called a "traitor" or "self-hating Jew". How long can the Right Wing hatemongers intimidate you?
For all your angry talk about justice, and insults, and refuge from others' bigotry as you suggest here, it does poor service to the memory of the victims, Jewish or otherwise, of the nazi tyranny for Israelis to employ the same strategy and methods as their killers and oppressors.
Genocide..yes that happens to the Jews and only exclusively to the Jews. Yes, I think I understand. As well as your other cliched talking points, lies, obvious spinning of terms...like "disputed land"--or here is another one of my faves, "natural expansion" as justification to steal more land. Following that to its logical end, any country in the world can claim territorial rights by sheer "natural expansion". Then of course, Israel doesn't declare its boundaries--but expects the people whose lands, homes, orchards, farms that are being bulldozed to acknowledge that their right to exist is trumped by the undefined, non-deliniated state of Israel--while Israel shrieks of its victimhood.
Like the Nazis represented the Germans as monsters, you do no good service to the Jews.
I attended a talk recently held by two of six Americans who visited the West Bank, the Israeli town of Sderot, and attempted to enter Gaza with medical supplies, but were shamefully denied entry by the Egyptian government. Israelis in Sderot whom they met with are outraged by their government's behavior during the bombardment of Gaza back in December and January. Of course, the unacceptance of the state of Israel is in the Palestinian charters. But, in their minds, who wants to accept the government which enforces a highly-repressive caste system where Palestinians end up way at the bottom. Who in their right mind would recognize that? Israel needs to stop it's racism and ethnic cleansing and get with the program.
If the occupation of lands obtained during the war of 1967 is illegal and continued settlements only exacerbate the issue , and with religious zealots not making any concessions, how will peace ever exist.I have a suspicion that the most arable land with access to water will not be surrendered by Israel no matter what. The Palestinians need a contiguous,viable state with financial compensation for confiscated lands. Why not redirect some of the annual three billion to that end? And finally, why has Israel never signed on to the non-proliferation treaty and yet they insist that Iran stop all nuclear weapon development?-an obvious double standard.
You got that right. What do you think the attempted invasion of Southern Lebanon was about? It was not about kidnapped soldiers. It was about stealing the land up to the Litany River. And when they lost, they sprinkled the whole area with cluster munitions.
israel is nothing but a thieving, racist nation.
Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, just like with Apartheid South Africa. It might take quite some time, but it will work.
We need to stop the $3 billion in military aid anyway. We can't afford our own military budget let alone covering one in another country. WE are paying this with our taxes. Perhaps WE ought to have a REAL say in who we aid. If we don't pay our taxes, we could wind up in prison. Our taxes are used to pay for other countries upkeep. So, if we don't pay for some other countries upkeep, we could wind up in prison. Put that way, WE are REALLY getting FUCKED!!!
"Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has brushed aside US calls for a halt in the expansion of settlements saying the regime has no intention to do so."
The U.S./Israeli alliance from Hell hasn't even begun to show the world what it's capable of.
Consider the source, what`s he got about a 50 word vocabulary.
keepthechange, one does that via "reply to this comment," but I can tell you Ben Martin is well within all bounds.
It is choosing to engage w/ this entity that is wrong. I've watched countless ZioThreads hi-jacked as Ethnic Cleansing, Genocide, Torture and Enforced Starvation of POW's was forgotten and minutiae were debated.
To hammer them, hard hitting posts re the 4 topics I mentioned are effective. So effective ZioApologists usually crawl in a hole and disappear in their face.
Palestine Forever.
Good points all.
Unfortunately, ZioApologists, when creamed, often change their names and repost the same lies.
Same tired strategy from the Ben Martins of the world - incessantly refer to a distortive and self-serving 'history' of the conflict and repeat the carefully slanted talking-points, always justify their actions by pulling the 'holocaust' card which they think seems to give them 'carte blanch' to do what they want without consequences, deflect the criticial argument to the 'other' (well the Arabs do it too - well yes, but the thread is about Israel's actions), never actually respond to critical replies but endlessly repeat the same talking points, and ignore or insult those who disagree. In his mind, no matter what we are, because we may disagree with his views we're all ignorant, anti-semites, communists, idiots, nazis, or whatever. What a crock. Just another extremist ideologue who is or should be shunned by free-thinking individuals with just a bit of brain.