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If Obama Cedes Ground on Torture to Cheney, We'll All Pay a Heavy Price
By acknowledging recent crimes while refusing to pursue the criminals, the president has made his position untenable
'Every government assumes deeds and misdeeds of the past," writes Hannah Arendt in Eichmann and the Holocaust. "It means hardly more, generally speaking, than that every generation, by virtue of being born into a historical continuum, is burdened by the sins of the fathers as it is blessed with the deeds of the ancestors."
For Barack Obama this cuts both ways. Talented as he is, he looks much more so when compared with the man who preceded him. Just by showing up and stringing a few coherent sentences together, he embodies an improvement. To earn acclaim in these early months, he hasn't had to do anything good. He merely had to announce that he would stop doing things that were bad.
On the other hand, he has inherited the scarred landscape of his predecessor's tenure. Bush's wars, banks, car companies, secret prisons and untried prisoners are now his. As the candidate he may have promised change, but as the president he must also simulate some sense of continuity. Soaring rhetoric, however hopeful about the future, cannot erase the past, which has a habit of remaining with us.
Herein lies the tension in Obama's deeply flawed attempts to come to terms with America's recent disgraceful record of torture and detainment. As a candidate he was consistent on two points. First, he was opposed to torture and would close Guantánamo Bay. "I believe that we must reject torture without equivocation because it does not make us safe, it results in unreliable intelligence, it puts our troops at risk, and it contradicts core American values." Second, he had no desire to prosecute those who have been guilty of human rights abuses. "I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of the Republicans as a partisan witch-hunt, because I think we've got too many problems to solve."
In short, by acknowledging the crimes while refusing to pursue the criminals he has promised to rectify America's grim recent history without ever reckoning with it.
Events over the past few weeks have shown just how ethically and politically untenable this situation really is. His first term looks as though it may be consumed by these issues anyway - and not on his terms. Having released the torture memos, Obama then reversed his position on releasing photographs that accompanied them on the grounds that to do so would endanger US troops. Having opposed trying Guantánamo prisoners under military commissions, he now supports it. His decision to close Guantánamo has been delivered a huge blow by the Senate, which voted 90-6 to deny the funds necessary to do so. Now he has proposed that suspects who cannot be tried in a federal court because evidence against them was obtained under torture could be held in "prolonged detention" in the US without trial.
In essence, he would transfer the legal architecture of Guantánamo to the mainland, as though the problem were one of geography rather than principle. So much for core American values.
On one level we should not be surprised. Obama was elected by Americans to represent American interests - which, in turn, are informed by American political realities. And the reality is that, with a few notable exceptions, the Democrats have consistently failed to provide an unswerving, principled opposition to torture whenever they have had the power to do so, for fear of being branded unpatriotic. Like their spinelessness over the Iraq war, this complicity in the name of pragmatism ultimately makes them more vulnerable to political attack, rather than less.
The speaker of the US House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, knows this only too well. When asked why she took impeachment off the table before the 2006 elections, she said: "What about these other people who voted for that war with no evidence ... Are they going to be voting with us to impeach the president? Where are these Democrats going to be? Are they going to be voting for us to impeach a president who took us to war on information that they had also?"
This makes the recent fiasco over her confused accounts of whether and when the CIA mislead her on waterboarding seem all the more disingenuous. Allegations of torture from various sources were prevalent by that stage, and she chose not to believe them. Her silence made her complicit, leaving her territory on the moral high ground foreclosed.
This should leave us in no doubt as to where the ultimate responsibility lies. "Where all are guilty, no one is," wrote Arendt. "Confessions of collective guilt are the best possible safeguard against the discovery of culprits, and the very magnitude of the crime the best excuse for doing nothing."
This is precisely how those who have now left the Bush administration have played it. "The president instructed us that nothing we would do would be outside of our legal obligations under the convention against torture," Condoleezza Rice said recently. "So by definition, if it was authorised by the president, it did not violate our obligations under the convention against torture."
But in the absence of moral leadership the national conversation has morphed seamlessly from human rights to national security, where the issue of torture and detention is debated not on the grounds of morality but efficacy.
With the former vice-president Dick Cheney leading the charge, the right has managed to mount a spirited defence of torture in which America's rights as the potential, abstract victim of terrorism supersede detainees' rights as actual victims of torture.
In the heady days following 9/11, argues Cheney, observing constitutional niceties and international conventions was a luxury they could not afford. Waterboarding, he said just last week, "prevented the violent deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of innocent people". Cheney insists that by closing Guantánamo and putting a halt to torture Obama is making the country less safe.
These arguments are not difficult to counter. There is not one shred of evidence any intelligence obtained as a result of torture has been used to prevent further attacks. The best intelligence the Bush administration ever had was a month before 9/11, when it received a memo entitled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US" from the FBI, warning of "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings". No torture was involved; no action was taken.
Conventions are devised precisely to set boundaries in moments of crisis - in periods of relative harmony there is not much need to refer to them. The Geneva convention, in particular, was devised to establish the rules of engagement during times of war. If the very fact of being at war is reason enough to discard it, then it has no meaning.
And finally, if showing the world what America has done would inflame anti-American sentiment then maybe America shouldn't do it in the first place.
The Obama administration's desire to concentrate on the future is understandable. But the past has a legacy and the present has consequences. By ceding the principle to Cheney now we will all pay for it later.- Posted in




79 Comments so far
Show Allvengeance is mine sayeth the lord
how is it that so many well meaning people have no understanding that trying to prosecute the previous administration will completely paralyze and polarize the government
djb May 25th, 2009 8:48 .............Paralysis?...Polarization?............And your point is?? How would anything be any different than what we have now? Do you not condone JUSTICE? What if it was your children being tortured??
And beside all that, as important an issue as it is, it is only serving the real purpose of diverting energy from a re-investigation of the false flag and LIE of 9/11.
djb,
In other words: prosecution is a convenience for use of the rich and powerful? The rich rule by right, not law.
Equality, liberty and and justice are only words in the USA.
Justice and Vengeance are different.
Peoplekind have always believed that prosecuting past offences is a deterrent to future offenses. Do you condone more torture?
Dictators have always seized power or violated laws because of "emergencies"
Obama is protecting War Criminals, every DOJ filing has been the same or worse than Bush's DOJ stances.
State Secrets is phony fascade especially when you consider Obama has recently attempted to block Plame's appeal which involves the revelation of a State Secret that fell into the categorey of a Capital Crime.
Obama is purposely creating a precedent of non-prosecution of War Crimes.
If Obama has done anything other than pressure Spain not to Prosecute,I'll eat my hat,
And by the way, Why are there no prosecutions for War Profiteering, also a Capital Crime.
you forgot "judge not" and "forgive us our debts", not to mention "suffer the little children."
Wonderful theology, vdb! I guess you're not religious.
In fact, one can only forgive something done to oneself. One cannot forgive a torturer for torturing another person. And forgiveness has to do with the soul; it was routine for a judge to pass the death sentence and then to add, "And may God have mercy on your soul."
For the earthly body to be forgiven it has to confess, repent, do penance and then ASK for forgiveness from God and the person wronged.
Rainborowe
"it was routine for a judge to pass the death sentence and then to add, 'And may God have mercy on your soul.'"
and how many would apend the necessary " . . . and mine."?
How is it that so many well meaning people confuse "vengeance" for "justice", and have no understanding that a democratic republic can not exist if its highest government officials are effectively permitted (i.e., encouraged) to exercise executive power unfettered by the very Law that creates it?
· Yr Obd't Servant
vengeance was the US response to the demolition of the WTC.
Justice was not.
vdb May 25th, 2009 12:25 pm...It was a self-inflicted excuse...a False Flag of a sickening degree.
I don't know who-done-it (and I have read all of Griffin's books) but the over-reaction was inexcusable.
however, as far as crazy conspiracy theories go - the one about the cavemen and the boxcutters is a howler.
"the one about the cavemen and the boxcutters is a howler."
Why? Calling those people cavemen doesn't make them so--they were well-educated (American educated in most cases but certainly with a decent command of English among other languages), and the one sure way to get through the security checks in those days, when the X-ray operators were looking for things shaped like hunting knives and guns in luggage and on persons, was the innoccuous plastic handled box-cutter with a cut-off blade. All they then had to do was grab a female member of the cabin crew, talk to the pilot on the intercom, threatening to cut her throat, and that was that. Nobody on the airplanes was expecting anything but a "Take me to Cuba/Beirut/Yemen" scenario.
It seems to me that you are, like the Bushies with the War on Iraq, fitting your "facts" around your theory.
Rainborowe
"Nobody on the airplanes was expecting anything but a "Take me to Cuba/Beirut/Yemen" scenario."
And the look on bush's face in that Florida classroom when A. Card told of the second strike suggests to me that this was all he was expecting that day, too.
But I have no proof.
Where is the proof of the boxcutters?
Did any survive - found next to the passport perhaps?
Rainborowe May 25th, 2009 4:48 pm..May I recommend 911pilotsfortruth.org. ...join the forum,...an amazing wealth of info...see what they think about the box cutter scenario.
The Government is already paralyzed and polarized and this is without any Justice and with the protection of war criminals.
There is no good anything without Justice.
Obama is on a path to prove the people must unite to end the Empire of War.
This is his real mission even if he doesn't know it, to show that we must unite for Truth, Justice and Peace.
All wars are fought in "The name of God and Peace".... and this denial of justice is a tool to keep the ball rolling to continue the theft of the people under the cover of "National Security".
Obama doesn't need the Congress to give him money to close torture camps, they were started by orders and they can end with orders.
Obama has already admitted that the govenment does not have the "Money" even for it's domestic plans.
How is it that so many well meaning people have no understanding that failure to prosecute the previous administration will completely paralyze and polarize the government?
And if vengeance is a bad motive for us mere mortals, then our who criminal justice system should be abolished. Along with rehabilitation (which is ever shrinking), retribution, and prevention of future crimes is the goal of our entire penal system. We have over two million people in our prisons for crimes (far less serious than those committed by torturers), if vengeance is such a repugnant concept, then we should at least be courageous and consistent enough to let these prisons go free.
No it wouldn't. Prosecutions of members of the previous administration would be conducted by the Justice Department, just like all the other federal prosecutions carried on all the time and mostly unmentioned in the media. The executive branch has no part of it, neither does the legislative branch and the judicial branch is only affected when federal prosecutors bring charges before federal judges.
Now, it may distract the population and the radio talkers, but their job is to be distracted.
Rainborowe
Polarize it. Paralyze it before it tortures again.
Inaction beats torture, murder-drones, destabilization, occupation, & the related mayhem.
This is a very excellent and concise comment djb, you clearly understand a piece of the why. Most well meaning people simply are not educated well enough to comprehend what you see. This is not a fault of those individuals, but of a collective society that puts the bulk of their wealth into sports, entertainment and elitism pursuits with one hand while blotting out basics like education with the other. As a mother I have dedicated my life to enriching my children's education as much as possible by enhancing how and why they perceive the world and teaching them that they make up their mind and the world it then creates. Though I do this very imperfectly, I do it as a choice to what I prioritize. For this reason alone, my children would have no problem understanding what you present and they constantly amaze me with their intuitive clarity in thinking thoughts that most adults in our society including me just cannot have because of our lack in comprehensive education. I consider these children the quantum generation and I have most of my hope placed with them and I pray the rest of our society may some day see the children as our greatest wealth.
That would be a good thing! let's face it the government is public enemy number one.
"I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of the Republicans as a partisan witch-hunt, because I think we've got too many problems to solve."
barackstar, listening to this sort of mouthing, it's obvious that one of your problems is how you'll even survive this term, much less referring to it as your "first term."
there is a big difference, of astronomical proportions, between promising change and delivering it. soon now, whenever you open your well-articulated mouth, no one will believe anything you say.
Yeah, as if his term is going to be "perceived" by Republicans as anything but a partisan witch hunt?? Partisan witch hunt was what he won his candidacy on. Lol.
Simply, except for a very few who value particular principles that cannot be compromised for expediency's sake, even though they will creatively and bravely seek to find solutions that others might support, the rest of those who represent us range from an anything goes and spineless swampiness to a desert of rigid, partisanship that is uncreative, frequently incredibly ignorant, and follow-the-leader fascistic and fanatical.
We have done ourselves no favor in the U.S. by becoming the #1 Material Culture on earth. As a result, we have become vapid people with more passion for finding the perfect pair of jeans or shoes than we have passion for our own conduct vis-a-vis the over-all human condition and the condition of our planet earth. Moral midgets are more psychopathic in their thinking and actions than are flawed, but aware human beings trying to do the right thing from a moral base which considers and includes the Common Good.
Right now, it is as if the conscienceless Zombies for Mammon reign, and they are winning whatever it is they expect and want to win ... essentially Money, Power, Control. Damn the blood and gore and screams in the night. Full speed ahead. It's Darth Vader time!
Hello, Richard Cheney et al. ... and there are a lot of et als all over the world.
Perhaps in the next years, pain and suffering and desperation will force us to think, to get in touch with our hearts, develop our survival skills individually and with others, and we will realize that we have allowed ourselves to be dupes, and we will rise up in solidarity because we will know we all are standing on the edge of the abyss, and not only we, but our children and our children's children are the symbols for the end of human history that since its beginnings has prized and celebrated WAR and Conquerors and Conquering -- truly stupid things to celebrate.
It is truly time to Wake Up, isn't it? It is truly time for people everywhere in the world to pick up their marbles, walk away, and refuse to play anymore deadly, vicious, immoral games or support anyone who wants to.
One can dream.
/cm
Never stop dreaming, my friend...it may be all we have left. If enough beings dream the same dream, it could replace the hell which has taken over in this country.
AOM .... AUM, AUM, AUM .../cm
OMMMMMMM!
Shouting "ommmmm" is like
whispering "fire" in empty
movie theater
Haiku d'tete...
Man who whisper "fire" in empty movie theater is too late, too early, do dress rehearsal or have stage fright. I dream, therefore I am. Any mantra is better than no mantra.
Yabba dabba do.
Yes, "Yabba dabba do" mantra goes
along with "Hey Wilma,"
just as "Hey BooBoo" goes
along with a true Yogi.
Yes, any consciousness ( or presence ) is better than none.
Namaste
Hey Man...
I was making a joke...
And it was not directed at you...
I wanted to write a funny haiku...
I am sorry if I offended you...
Good response though...
Touché...!
Might as well get a thousand cats to have the same dream
(apologies to Gaiman)
"Right now, it is as if the conscienceless Zombies for Mammon reign, and they are winning whatever it is they expect and want to win ... essentially Money, Power, Control. Damn the blood and gore and screams in the night. Full speed ahead. It's Darth Vader time!"
That is what a society evolves into under corporatism and I suspect that many of the corporatists consider the modern USA to be some form of utopia.
There is zero will throughout the entire US government to change the existing status quo.
I think it was moron Douglas Feith who said, until something bigger comes along nobody can stop us.
Evidently, it's not Obama and his full compliment of Dems.
The Chinese? The Russians? A major coastal natural disaster?
Whatever stops us, it's going to be very ugly.
Sioux Rose
CEE MIRACLES: I hear you. Deeply felt post, thank you for sharing it.
I think Obama is actually walking the finest straight line on this impossibly thin tightrope: refrain from prosecuting long enough to let Spain legally do the work of discovery and issue warrants for the arrest of those who authorized and implemented torture.
Through diplomatic channels President Obama can deliver as much information as is required to ensure successful prosecution of the criminals in our government without ripping our country apart in the process. Remember, Spain can only prosecute while the U.S. fails to do so. There will be time for that later. In the meantime, we can all keep the pressure on through the media.
gervais999,
You still believe in the inherent "goodness" and well meaning of Mr. Obama. How quaint?
"Remember, Spain can only prosecute while the U.S. fails to do so."
and this failure justifies 0 doing nothing - why?
No offense, gervais999, but: dream on.
· Yr Obd't Servant
gervais999,
You may have a point about Spain, but since Obama is worried about Republican criticism, he couldn't give Spain any info on Bush/Cheney without being charged with treason by the War Nuts.
But Spain can find plenty of evidence in the public domain. And they can find evidence of Obama protecting them in the public domain.
When and if progressives unite, then we will have some pressure that can be felt and gaged.
Why should we pass the buck to Spain anyhow? These crimes were committed in OUR names and it is our responsibility to see that justice is carried out. Obama is a cowardly hypocrite if he keeps walking this "fine line."
Good luck with that.
It's pretty obvious that Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi have made solemn personal promises to Mr. Bush (and probably others) to avoid prosecution in "payment" for Mr. Bush's silence during his Texas retirement. Although Mr. Cheney should have, he made no such promise to keep silent.
I should think Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi would find anything Mr. Bush might blurt out in his quaint ham-handed fashion could only cast a good light on them by contrast. When the man had a staff of government paid experts who's job it was to keep the man's foot out of his mouth he still managed to step in it (his mouth and shit at the same time) on a quite regular basis.
Oh, I can't imagine that old Mr. 22% is worth all that. More likely the rot spreads on both sides of the aisle. Democrats chimed in on torture, funded the war. The Republicans led the charge into hell, but most of the Demos have bankrolled it, been bankrolled by the death lobbies, and stand to lose a lot as these things get dragged out.
There are a lot of war crimes to go around. Were Americans to try their government by the standards of the Nuremberg trials, the nation would need a special election to replace the heads of state -- so to speak.
And this is the same author who told us to embrace hope from Obama? Obama promised nothing on ending torture so it is to be assumed that he'll continue it.
Based on his record thus far, it would make no difference if he had made such a promise.
q
The headline is misleading. Why ask *IF* when he already HAS?
Exactly, RichM! Welcome back to Common Dreams.
Like most USAers, O'bummer is driven by fear, in his case he don't want to get shot like JFK.
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