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Palin + McCain Equals More Bush
WASHINGTON -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has awesome self-confidence. Chosen by fellow Republicans to be Sen. John McCain's running mate, she told an interviewer: "I'm ready." That confidence reflects her naivete about her role that puts her one heartbeat away from the presidency.
In accepting the nomination as veep, she invoked the greatness of President Truman, based on their small-town origins. But anyone who was around during Truman's era knows there is a world of difference between Palin and Truman. Take, for example, humility.
Truman was vice president for only a short time when on April 12, 1945, he was summoned to the White House and told the stunning news that President Franklin Roosevelt was dead. Truman and FDR were not close and Truman was not deeply familiar with the U.S. military plans for World War II. He also did not know about the atomic bomb.
As the nation's new leader, Truman wanted a few days to move into the White House. He understood the magnitude of his new job. The morning after being sworn in, Truman emerged from his Washington apartment to go to work on his first day as president. He took one look at the three wire service reporters who standing in front of his building.
"Boys," he said to the familiar faces, "the moon and the stars fell on me. If you ever prayed before, pray for me."
So when Palin says she is "ready," one thinks of the two U.S. wars under way in Iraq and Afghanistan -- and the devastating market crash on Wall Street.
There is no question that Palin has given a big lift to McCain and helped boost his ratings so that he's now virtually tied with Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee. As a team, McCain and Palin are on the same page. Both are pro-guns and anti-abortion. She is literally a rifle-toting mama, against sex education and has attempted to ban books she considers immoral from her hometown library.
But Palin's evangelical rigidity on social issues puts her out of step with the modern woman. She is said to be more reactionary than McCain -- if that's possible. Is it any wonder that activist feminist organizations have come out in support of Obama?
The new Republican ticket seems like the current White House tenant. Neither McCain nor Palin appear to have any significant doubts about President Bush's disastrous policies. Palin's gubernatorial tenure in Alaska is personified by massive firings when she took office. She does not tolerate dissent and shuns the media.
It seems clear to me that we would have another imperial presidency if McCain and Palin win the hearts and minds of the American people in the November balloting. Bob Woodward of The Washington Post has been privy to the workings of the Bush White House and has written four books to prove it. In his latest Book, "The War Within," Woodward depicts Bush as a "man of few doubts" who is "still following his gut, convinced that the path he has chosen is right."
Bush, who has switched from using the word "win" in speaking of Iraq to "succeed," has the gung ho McCain-Palin team behind him. The question is, why? Woodward also wrote that Bush was intolerant of confrontations and in-depth debate. He said Bush maintained an "odd detachment" in the management of the war in Iraq "and too often failed to lead."
Bush has never explained why he invaded Iraq -- a country that had no doomsday weapons and did us no harm. It's doubtful that McCain or Palin could explain Bush's mindless mission in the Middle East if they gained the White House.
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McCain = BIG OIL
"Bush has never explained why he invaded Iraq -- a country that had no doomsday weapons and did us no harm. It's doubtful that McCain or Palin could explain Bush's mindless mission in the Middle East if they gained the White House."
To quote the Blues Brothers" "We're on a mission from Gawd"
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
"...never explained..." - that's the line that stimulated a return to my sputtering, which yes, I'am using professional help on, however, if Palin or anyone of even semi reasonable mind where to give a clear explanation of the Iraq Occupation they would make a wonderful Prez or VP..."Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb, Iran...we're in a 100 year oil mission from Gawd" does not come from a reasonable mind - they have slight intellect if any, four more years of canned press conferences of "drill, drill, drill...I shoot moose's...wave flag...ha, ha, ha" is unconscionable!
I am slightly dyslexic, and I keep seeing Nail McPain.
She recently put herself in front of him anyway.
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Is McCain Palin's Bitch?
Can we all celebrate Helen Thomas for her great work, which is a delight to read and all she has done so far. Who of us could challenge the presidents at press conferences as she has done? The lady in red.... Celebrate Helen Thomas. Thanks, Helen Thomas.
She's one of the last real journalists in America. Amy Goodman is another one of that breed.
I would add my voice to the chorus in praise of one of the very few real journalists left in this nation.....and note as well that a Palin Presidency terrifies me, while a McCain or Obama victory only disgusts me.....
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Palin's run for VP is no more naive than Dumbya's run for President. The puppeteers are in charge.
Education is supposed to be the path from cocky ignorance to thoughtful uncertainty.
Palin's cockiness and "not blinking" when asked to be the VP candidate is yet another proof of how education is completely wasted on people like her and Dubya. No doubts, no curiosity, no analytical ability, no thoughtfulness, no thoughts. Just Christian-God-given righteousness and arrogance.
I am an immigrant living and working in Texas amongst college educated Christians. Their "faith-based" knowledge frightens me.
Fal2Gal, "faith-based" belief scares me too, but I think education is not "wasted" on anyone. How to make people understand other people's points of view? I don't know. It's up to us to give every child an education, and keep educating the public via real news coverage about real policies and hope the fundamentalists aren't solidly "locked in", or get control long range.
If the American people fall for it again then, sorry, fooled thrice. Americans will just have to live with the further deterioration of their country and world. It's sad, but Americans did it to Americans through deceit. Every "point" that McCain/Palin make ease America that much closer to a fully faded glory. Without morality a country is nothing.
Bush explained why he was going to war in Iraq before he was ever president. He told a friend that to be remembered as a great president you had to be a war president. Of course for that, you have to have a war. Iraq fit the bill because then he could show up Daddy at the same time. Lucky us.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Bush/Cheney and McCain/Palin are depicted as evil, and pursusing an insane agenda. I agree. But have you thought the deep-seated reasons they do what they do? The wars, the deception, etc.?
It's because deep down, the electorate is averse to change, and asking the American people to reduce energy consumption, to change their consumption to reduce their ecological footprint, and to make other changes is ELECTORAL SUICIDE. Look what happened to Jimmy Carter when he attempted to ask for modest reductions in energy consumption. He's derided as one of the worst presidents in American history, although I think of him as being the best in the last 40 or 50 years. Contrast that with the perception of Reagan. Yes, WE KNOW that Reagan was a doddering figurehead for a deceptive, cheating conservative movement. But he regarded energy problems as an inadequate supply, and worked to keep the status quo going. He's celebrated as a hero, although his policies, then and now, are a DISASTER.
Moral of the story: you can blame the politicians, but they're smart enough to not offend the electorate any more than they need to in order to get elected. Americans don't want to inconvenience themselves with reduced energy, food, and materials consumption. Asking them to do so is political suicide. I think Bush/Cheney are wildly successful, but also hate their values, policies, and philosophy. Without making the electorate willing to make reductions in energy and other consumption, we won't change the strategy of the politicians.
She told an interviewer: "I'm ready."
She must have misheard the interviewer. The interviewer was not talking about bedtime.
Hellen says that Mcsame pain would be like more bush. Well what's wrong with that? Oh, yah, I suppose there are one or two - thousand - reasons why that wouldnt' be good...
Sioux Rose
Examining Bush and his purported motives is rather like looking at a pile of cow dung and from it seeking to divine the future. Helen Thomas quotes those sources that actually place into LEGITIMATE question anything this under-informed, slow thinker PLACED into the # 1 (presidential) slot essentially to open the floodgates for the biggest heists of modern history supposedly conceived. He does not think, there IS no thought process with Bush, neither any capacity to FEEL. He is the figurehead of those that have no conscience and are to money what the addict is to heroin.
GUS: There are some Americans that indeed fit your description, but a good % would probably be willing to alter their ways if the media didn't place into question (like a corrupt defense attorney representing a mass murderer for instance) EVERY dangerous trend currently underway. The climate of dis-information means few know WHAT to believe in. Even in this forum of mostly educated thinking sorts, there are some who buy into some very strange BS.
Sioux Rose
FAL 2 GAL: Your name seems new to the forum. Your description of this sort of person fits, and is the culmination of generations of pro-nationalistic programming, now fueled by similar indoctrinations into false team loyalties that emerge from our intense sports-media complex. Religion uses stylistic programming from both in demanding loyalty from its flock (the evangelical sorts of religion, anyway); and thus those who BELONG to the "WINNING" team feel no onus to question anything. Their certainty that they are the new Chosen will become quite the disappointment when they cross over and the REAL Jesus, or perhaps Buddha, will interview them and ask, "What did you think I meant by whatsoever you do unto the least of these?" If anyone dares answer "BOMB," they get to live in the next zone on this planet or another, absolutely in line for violent destruction.
Unless empathy is cultivated, most need to wear someone else's moccassins to get it. This is why we heard the quote, "Judge not that ye not be judged." I've seen that from the days of my youth, certain situations I was judgmental towards BECAME my own until I began to see the connection between things, and really FEEL for mankind as a FAMILY. No one can evolve, "the only way to the Father is through me," to this higher spiritual consciousness without developing spiritual sensitivity. Using Jesus' name the way some deluded elderly woman clings to her Rosary beads cuts nothing in the way of soul evolution, and the karmic residue that precedes it.
I respect Helen Thomas tremendously (I watched the documentary on her life just this week). I hate to even think of the White House press corp without her.
But, this is no time to be placing trust in either Obama or McCain.
We are in serious, very serious trouble.
We need honest and predictable leadership, not more of the same.
As a nation, we are doomed without taking a real, honest step to clean this mess up.
Vote like your country and life depended on it.
THIS time, it really does.
Vote for Nader.
Ummmm.... So how is voting for Nader going to lead to honest and predictable leadership?
It's kind of funny to see the lefties on pro-Nader CD scream and holler about Palin's lack of qualifications.
Nader's done what again? Oh that's right he exposed the Corvair. Wow! Good enough for me. Sign him up to lead the world.
Between the Red and the Blue candidates is a Green candidate.
I find it sad that you betray an incredible ignorance on the subject yet are unashamed to profess that ignorance. Five freaking minutes with a reputable search engine, a perusal of the bio of Ralph Nader would have saved you from the opinion that you are an acne scarred teenager desperate to be heard, and too ignorant to have anything of value to say.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Don't even worry about about. There are far too many lesser-evilists out there to worry about any 3rd party candidate. Just look at their platforms if you want to know who are the real progressives and who are the posers that are actually Republican-lites. One thing is for sure:
1. A vote for Obama will not end the occupation.
2. Obama wants to increase military spending.
3. Obama's advisers want to keep Bush's Defense Secretary Roberts Gates.
4. Obama wants more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones.
5. Obama wants to add an additional 100,000 troops.
6. Obama wants to intensify the war in Afghanistan.
7. Obama wants to keep over 60,000 troops in Iraq to guard "our" oil.
So if you are for war, imperialism and socialism for the rich vote for Democrats or Republicans! You won't be disappointed!
It isn't that you're too dense to answer a simple question, it's just you don't want to give an answer that would undermine your argument.
I am not voting for Nader you brick.
I am voting Green. If not, I would vote for the Socialist Equality Party or lastly, Ralph Nader.
Anyone not taking large sums of money from Wall St. and opposed to our continued military presence in the ME in order to enrich the MIC, Big Oil, Haliburton, Blackwater and a host of other vultures would be infinitely better than the sold out accomplices and protectors of the Bush Criminal Family, the Democrats.
The rationale is that Democrats:
1) Refuse to stop funding the war after promising to do so
2) Refuse to impeach Bush/Cheny
3) Refuse to hold Bush accountable for torturing
4) Allow right-wingers like Mukasey and others to be confirmed
5) Confirmed right-wingers on the Supreme Court
6) Rubber stamp gargantuan military budgets
7) Allow Bush to spew 935 lies about the war and get away with it
8) Allow Cheny to out CIA agents and defy subpoenas
9) Granted Bush and the Telecoms immunity
10)Allow Guantanamo to stay open so they can torture outside US jurisdiction.
11)Allow themselves to be pissed on by signing statements
12)Insert your favorite Democratic Party capitulation here:_____________________________________. (offshore drilling?)
So for anyone not as thick as you and the other DPAs on CD it would be obvious that the Democrats are only marginally better than Republicans, if that. Therefore the Dims should be dumped and we should be voting for third parties in the hopes they can get 5% and qualify for matching funds.
Yeah, the Green Candidate will win the election, stop the war, put reasonable justices on the Supreme Court, end government sanctioned torture, restore civil liberties, get the church out of the state (and vice versa) and protect a woman's right to an abortion.
Not.
You trolls really don't have a leg to stand on. Your whole argument is "The Dem's didn't do enough against Bush & Co. so vote for people who can do nothing because they have no chance of winning."
You're trolling for the gullible and not getting many bites.
As much chance as an Obama administration will.
Your party's record clearly speaks for itself.
700 billion $ bailout and an illegal war that's murdering innocent human beings.
Personally, I have no other choice as I can't be complicit in the matter(s) at hand.
A group of black protesters holding signs reading "Blacks Against Obama" disrupted Obama's speech in Coral Gables but were drowned out by the crowd's chants of "yes we can."
They were led out by police after a brief interruption.
Dont Conelessa Rice, Colin Powel, and Clarence Thomas have anything better to do with their time?
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
LOL. Seriously.
Is McCain Palin's Bitch?
Helen, Helen, Helen!!
Whatever happened to "girl power"!!
Yes she's had no experience of anything much - as mayor she appointed a city manager to take care of things and left the city in debt.
And yes, as governor she seems to have spent most of her time harrassing an ex-brother-in-law - or encouraging family members and staff to do the same.
And yes she's "mispoken" about the bridge to nowhere, earmarks, being in iraq, being in ireland and running the national guard,etc.
But so what. She's a "heck of a gal" - and a hockey mom !
And if you think she can't figure out foreign policy, just look at how quickly she mastered "executive priviledge".
Helen Thomas observes that Sarah Palin's "evangelical rigidity puts her out of step with the with modern woman. She is said to be more reactionary than McCain - if that's possible. Is it any wonder that activist feminist organizations have come out in favor of Obama?" No wonder at all, and this week's developments on that front of the culture wars is wonderful.
Sarah Palin is to the American womens' movement what Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly are to the civil rights movement for the rights of African-Americans. As a member of a new neo-con front group calling itself Feminists for Life, Ms. Palin would substitute abstinence only lectures for meaningful sex education on contraception. On ideological and religious grounds, she opposes the choice of abortion even for victims of forcible rape and incest, while this newfangled "feminist" front group openly lobbies to nullify Roe v Wade. By coopting some of the rhetoric, the GOP's right wing is trying to redefine (in the image of Phyllis Schlafly) what it means to be a "liberated" woman in the neo-cons' brave new world
Yes, Helen, this sure is out of step.
Trying to read Margaret Sanger out of the history of the womens' rights movement in the United States is rather like claiming to be a big supporter of equal rights for blacks - but just please don't mention that Frederick Douglass fellow. As the media hype and celebrity sizzle of the Palin veep choice subsides, the substance inside is gradually being exposed as the proverbial wolf in sheeps' clothing that this cynical ticket balancing stunt has always been.
As a male who once marched in the streets of Chicago and Philadelphia in support of passage of the Equal Rights Amendment (thanks for the sharp stick in the eye, Henry Hyde), I say take a deep breath, and put your trust in the good common sense of real world women voters to see past the GOP's preposterous smoke and mirrors marketing effort come election day.
When all is said and done, this slickly packaged snake oil is not going to sell within its designated target demographic group.
Bill from Saginaw
Religion is out of step with modern women !
Palin apparently exemplifies Republican feminism. She can have a career, but her genitalia still belongs to men. There's not much we can do about it, she's archaic and the Republicans are archaic, so they are well matched.
When they tell you there's no real choice but McCain or Obama, remember this: they're lying.
When you get to the ballot box, you'll see Nader right there between McCain and Obama in 45 states. When you get to the ballot in 32 states, you'll see Cynthia McKinney. Both have worked tirelessly their whole lives for the Constitution and the People. Both have spoken out against reckless financial deals that now threaten the retirement funds and livelihoods of millions of Americans. Both have spoken out against the occupation of Iraq and for impeachment of Bush-Cheney.
How much longer must your conscience wait?
John M. Wages, Jr.
Candidate, US House of Representatives, MS-01
www.VoteJohnWages.com
Both Nader and McKinney have zero chance of winning.
So which viable candidates are you siphoning votes from?
The Repugs have had the Dim Wits bent over a table for years without so much as a whimper or a peep of complaint. Just mention Nader and the nut cases come out in force, foaming and frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs. Perhaps if you Democrats were actually an opposition party and not an accomplice maybe we wouldn't need third parties. If you opposed Repugs with the same ferocity you oppose Ralph you'd have my vote. You don't own the political process nor do you own our votes. Votes must be earned. They are not an entitlement program. Earn it!
42 million registered democrats and 30 something million registered republicans---huge organizations in every state---tons of money...
Good luck.
What a stupid article. Sorry. Everybody knows Palen is a political cipher and so is the current occupant of the White House, the one Dems are protecting.
Bush has never explained why he invaded Iraq -- a country that had no doomsday weapons and did us no harm. It's doubtful that McCain or Palin could explain Bush's mindless mission in the Middle East if they gained the White House.
-this is a really stupid thing to say in support of the Obama/Biden ticket. One advocated for it, both voted to fund it.
Helen Thomas is a DPA (Dem Party apologist). She doesn't end with the typical DPA "Therefore vote for Obama!" but it's implied. George Bush was about as qualified as Palin and he managed just great with Democratic assistance. And when he really started screwing up and breaking laws the Democrats were quick to grant him retroactive immunity and declare impeachment is off the table.
Palin could be president because the president isn't the one running the oligarchy. He or she is just a gloried water boy doing the bidding and business of the PTB (powers that be).
It won't really matter which of the two establishment parties has control of the government because the policies are designed by the industries that they are supposed to be regulating. Hence it won't really matter that much whether we get a Black Republican or a White one, the corrupt banking industry will be bailed out at taxpayer expense, the little guy will lose his home and the wars will continue,
On the Democratic side we get Biden, the consummate insider of 35 years who has been sitting there all this time while everything got deregulated and said what? What he did say is that he was in favor of the war in Iraq and voted for it. Maybe that's why Obama picked him; to shore up his "military" credentials.
Go Greens! Go Nader! Go any 3rd party that is opposed to war, for people and against corporate and government corruption!
George Bush said, "You're either with us or with the enemy!" Christian fundamentalists, Muslim fundamentalists, fundamentalists of all kinds see the world in black and white like Bush. Progressive fundamentalists are no different. I have lots of differences with Obama and Biden, but that doesn't mean they're the same as McCain and Palin. McCain will appoint right wing idealogues to the Supreme Court. That will lock us in for decades! McCain and Palin will destroy our civil liberties and the last vestiges of the constitution. Obama and Biden, both professors of constitutional law, will not. Yes, my views are closer to those of Nader and McKinney, but a vote for either of them is at least half a vote for McCain-Palin. Sorry, No Thanks. Doc
If your views are closer to Nader and Mckinney, how do you ever hope to get those views realized by voting against them? If you do agree with them, but vote otherwise, then you are siphoning off votes for them, you are undermining their candidacy and, hence, your own principles.
Or, if voting for them is half a vote for McCain, is voting McCain half a vote for Nader/McKinney? Interesting concept. In my calculation, voting for Obama is half a vote for McCain, as the 2 parties are so similar in what they owe their allegiance to (and it ain't the Constitution).
Remember that Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts are, supposedly, experts in Con. Law as well. Would you vote for them to protect your civil liberties? There are a number of people who are Con. Law profs that I certainly would not want to see as Pres., and Obama is one of them. What makes you think that a guy who voted for a bill that gives telecoms immunity from prosecution would appoint a SC justice who would deem that law unconstitutional?
Another DPA staple argument, #7 the "HOW ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?" How about the vote on Chief Justice Roberts?
All 55 Republicans voted to confirm Roberts; 22 Democrats, including Senate Judiciary Committee ranking member Patrick Leahy of Vermont, also voted to confirm Roberts, as did the one independent (Jim Jeffords). 22 Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, voted in opposition.
22 Democrats voted to confirm Bush's Supreme Court Chief Justice.
The "HOW ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT?" argument is a staple DPA red herring because enough Democrats always vote with the Republicans to allow the confirmation of right wingers, but don't count on Republicans to return the favor. Unlike Democrats, Republicans don't betray their base.
All the folks who think there would be 'no difference' between an Obama Presidentcy & McSame-Palin consider if Gore was leaving office right now after 8years (instead of the election being stolen)
1) There would be 2 million less Iraq refugees, tens of thousands less dead(including 4,000 US soldiers/25,000 maimed for life)
2) 8 yrs of action towards Climate Change Legislation
3) More money in Treasury for Health Care, two less right-wing SC Justices, no Patriot Act, no corporate testing in schools, possibly real finance reform legislation,etc...
I have problems with Obama's corporate coziness & his 'strong military' crap(do you think he would get elected saying he would cut the military budget?) BUT his world outlook is vastly different than 'fighter pilot'McCain. Seriously, which candidate do you think would start the next WAR?..
Give me a break on Nader! Which party is he in this year?...If anything vote Green as a radical progressive or a progressive can intelligently vote Obama in a 'toss-up' state & support Greens at the local level...
WAKEUPCALL: It's shocking. I've tried. Obama haters on these threads will shamelessly argue that Gore would have been no better than Bush and Cheney have been.
Nobel Prize winner or The worst president in history and war criminal....hmmmmm..sure they are the same. And so are Obama and McCain. Yeah. right.
It's useless. Let them rant. I detail Nader's investments in defense contractors like Raytheon* and they say nothing. Sure, that is okay because he is their idol. Raytheon=cluster bombs-go ralph. Ralph is invested in Halliburton too!*
*Via his Fidelity Magellan Holdings.
Obama or McCain,
They're not the same,
Try world war three
And the cold war game.
Until recently most of Obama's investments was tied up with conservative mutual funds. Obama also has stock with Skyterra Communications and AVI Biopharma, both happen to get a lot of money from a source Obama should be familiar with: the federal government.
Skyterra Communications and AVI Biopharma, aside from sharing the same deep-pocketed benefactor, the two have one more thing in common. They both provide services in an area that has become a hot-button issue on Capitol Hill and with the electorate: homeland security.
Are you ok with Obama's homeland security investments but not ok with Ralph's having Raytheon stock? Was there a conflict of interest there for Obama?
Better to vote for what you want and not get it, than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
Go CYNTHIA MCKINNEY! GO GREENS! DON"T WASTE YOUR VOTE ON SELL OUTS!
I LOVE how you dismiss Nader's holdings in Raytheon and cluster bombs as a LesserEvil!
Lesser than what?
Nothing is more evil than cluster bombs-sorry.
Look I am not voting for Nader. Get it? Nader is not a saint. Neither is Obama. Nader is not the establishments choice, Obama is. Now that ought to tell you something, but it won't. He had or has a holding in a firm that in turn either had or has Raytheon stock. It is my understanding he didn't directly own it.
Do you know for a fact he still has it? Can you provide the evidence? I love the way you dismiss Obama having stock with companies that do business with the federal government.
You hate Nader because he has/had stock in the MIC but probably are unaware of Obama's stocks and bonds plus you seem aware Obama is calling for more military spending on top of the fact we already spend more on "defense" than the rest of the world combined.
In addition, military overspending starves domestic programs that help people. Why is it okay for Obama to call for increasing military spending but you bash Nader for his stocks?
Tit for Tat.
You have absolutely no idea about what a Gore Presidency would or would not have done unless you own a crystal ball. What did he do as vice president? To ask that question answers it.
When he was VP he sat idly by while we regularly bombed and starved Iraqis. Clinton tore up the safety net and gave us the anti-terrorism bill, after the Oklahoma City federal building bombing, that became the precursor to the Patriot Act.
By the way, Obama voted for the Patriot Act.
Seriously, which candidate do you think would start the next WAR?..
-Obama has indicated he wants to intensify the war/occupation in Afghanistan not end it. Do your homework!
Ric:
1. Palin McCain's rhetoric re Russia has been bellicose, not Obama's, one of McCain's men was there and HELPED START the Georgian conflict. He's helped start a war and fiasco b4 the election even transpires....
2. MCain wants to isolate Iran, Obama engage Iran.
3. Obama wants to pull troops out of Iraq, McCain said he would stay there for one thousand years or until Victory is achieved.
Yes Afghanistan is wrong, and there they are alike, but not alike as described above; and Ric-war with Russia? Again, 'John's' presence there has already been felt, how did that go? A fiasco.
The preceeding examples of McCain's greater foreign policy aggressiveness are clear-cut.
And they mark PalinMcCain the by far more war-like ticket.
Do YOUR homework!
Seriously, Gore and Bush are the same huh? That is beyond all reason to keep it polite, which in spite of the homework crack you are doing,
Cool.