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Whale Cull Plan Sunk as National Delegates Fail to Agree
Discussions suspended for a year after hunters and opponents struggle to find common ground at IWC meeting
Talks on replacing a moratorium on whaling with a controlled cull have hit an impasse and will be suspended for a year, delegates at a meeting of the International Whaling Commission (IWC) said today.
A harvested whale is butchered in Iceland, one of the countries involved in the IWC meeting. (Photograph: Ted Spiegel/Corbis) Negotiators
in the Moroccan city of Agadir said the proposal, aimed at breaking the
long-running deadlock over the emotive issue of whaling, failed because whale-hunting countries and anti-whaling delegations could not find enough common ground.
"This means these talks are finished," said Sue Lieberman, who was heading the delegation of the anti-whaling Pew Environment Group at the talks.
One national delegate said talks on the proposed changes to whaling policy had been put on hold until the next annual session of the IWC.
"It seems this means that there is going to be a one-year break in negotiations," said Uruguayan representative Gaston Lasarte.
A moratorium on whaling has been in force for 24 years but Japan, Norway and Iceland have caught thousands of the animals since the 1980s, arguing that they are not bound by a total ban. Their actions have met international condemnation.
The compromise proposal under discussion at the IWC meeting would have lifted the moratorium for 10 years but imposed strict controls on the limited whaling that would then be allowed.
Some environmental groups have given qualified support for the proposal, saying if it was not possible to stop all whaling now, at least it should be limited.
But the proposal was opposed by supporters of whaling who said it amounted to a back-door ban on the practice, and by some anti-whaling campaigners who described it as a sell-out to the whaling lobby.
"We had two days of useful talks but we still haven't got a consensus resolution," said Geoffrey Palmer, head of the New Zealand delegation in Agadir.
"There is an absence of political will to bridge the gaps and to compromise."
Japan's delegation also blamed a lack of flexibility in the proposals, which were put forward by the IWC's chairman Cristian Maquieira, for sinking the talks.
"Unfortunately, there are some members who are unhappy with the chair's proposal and who do not accept it as a basis for discussions," the Japanese said in a statement.
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Show AllWatch the movie "The Cove" to see the dangers of Whale and Dolphin meat to human health. We're talking about swimming toxic waste sites, tons of mercury.
I am very sad, but not surprised at what happen. When is the world going to say enough of this crap, and stand up for the moral imperatives in life?
Some might ask is fighting for the environment, wildlife, marine life, plant life, clean water, air, and land to live on a moral imperative in life. For me, the answer is yes. I am Catholic and I remember being given a book when I was a little girl about St. Francis and the animials. I loved that book and through the years my love of nature and the environment grew out of that little seed planted that we as Catholics must be good caregivers to all of God’s creation. I know Pagan friends who also feel the same love and spiritual blessings by being close and honoring nature around us. Native Americans have that same love and desire to protect the planet. All three spiritual paths I mentioned encourage people to be good caregivers of the planet. They all know that when we destroy the environment and are left with a toxic wasteland and animals and plants that no longer exist that man is loosing a part of himself that can’t be replaced. I know a lot of people don’t understand me and that is ok. I am used to that.
Because man does not have the courage to stand up and do what is right against those forces in the world who do not give two hoots about anything or anyone else that doesn’t bring them a profit; we will continue to see this action of talking big but doing nothing repeated time and time again. Not only with this issue but with other issues that are just as much of an moral imperative.
WHAAA! boo freaking hoo, Japan, Iceland, and Norway. Big mean whale killing babies; irresponsible, stupid, and ridiculous. You all need to get a stiff spanking and to get sent to bed without your supper, and you're not having a birthday this year. I'm sure that the whales most certainly agree that your actions must not be stood for in an enlightened time.
They can communicate with us, they are our gentle ocean friends. They are too advanced and evolved to eat. Leave them alone.
Japan, what in the heck is your problem? You have plenty of means to grow food. You have enough money to buy food and import it. You don't HAVE to eat whales, do you?
Iceland, there are only 317,414 of you in the whole country, and you only use 1% of your available tillable earth for agriculture. I think you need to stop being so lazy and grow some vittles for your small population. You don't have an excuse to do something so horrible as kill whales and eat them. Just start farming more.
Norway, I kinda understand why you don't want to just live on fish and potatoes, but what you should do is all 4,768,212 of you have to start making it part of your culture to make rich compost and start building up your soil. Build greenhouses, and dig out rocks. start making good dirt, or import it. If you want to eat, you should take steps to make your country able to produce food. You have herds of animals, you have grain. You can take that manure and make your country more able to sustain you.
And don't give me that argument that this whale whaling is cultural. That's just an excuse. It's illegal under international treaty, and just because you're all too immature or stone-age violent to understand that whales are endangered, doesn't mean you should be able to get away with murdering them and eating them like carnivorous canine savages.
We all have to adjust our cultures to meet with the enlightenment that is being bestowed upon our race. The human race is no longer a race of people scratching in the dirt and eating bugs, shivering under a rock. We have the means to move and be versatile, growing food should be our first priority. Learning and teaching each other how to adjust their culture to make it a part of their culture to grow open pollinated non GMO varieties of all of the foods that we enjoy, and to reap the harvest of a love for gardening, and moving people to areas of land that can sustain larger populations would mean the end to world hunger. It's that simple, folks. Just move people to farmland and show them how to grow food, or show them how to turn their own land into land that will grow good gardens.
Why do we have to kill whales when there are plenty of beans to eat?
I dunno, firing a harpoon with a bomb in it into the largest species on earth, especially if it is a mother with a calf, must give the whaler a rush like the guy who shoots a deer through a scope sighted rifle from a quarter mile away. He feels he is a mighty hunter. The deer didn't even know it was in danger.
My wife and I have had many wonderful interactions with the cetacea and found them to be intelligent, warm, gentle and friendly.
Ah well, this is a funny world. I couldn't see myself bashing a baby seal with a club so I could take its skin, either. Guess I'm just a softy.
The problem is easy to solve. Just do what previous Presidents have refused to do, even though a law requires it: impose strict tariffs on goods from nations that violate the ban. That is, for all practical purposes, stop importing goods from Japan.
It won't hurt Japan as much as it would have a decade ago, now that they make many of their cars here, but lots of things are still imported. Iceland couldn't care less about such tariffs, but Norway might.
Some years back Japan was smacked for overfishing tuna and cutbacks were enforced, so then they had less stocks to plunder and make ridiculous amounts of money off of.
I think that was about the time that the Japanese market suddenly remembered it had a 'traditional right' to go and hunt whales and use them for food.
So they came up with the ludicrous idea of hunting whales for 'research purposes' because of a loophole in regulations.
Despite promises and utterly half-hearted threats, Australia hasn't done anything to stop the whale killing for years.
The latest 'attempt' by the Australian government is a legal challenge but of course even that's going to go nowhere. And would you believe there's even been arrogant predictive threats that it might make Japanese whale hunting completely legal?
Normal people are outraged at the whale slaughter but for politicians and businessmen it's just a case of a game they play out in front of the public whilst backroom agreements continue the killings.
How powerful is Japan perceived with all this whale hunting stuff?
They can have one of their ships deliberately sail over and destroy a protesting ship, sinking it and endangering the crew, but of course there's "insufficient evidence" to determine what happened. Obviously officials refuse to look at the 'other video' of that incident taken from a third ship which showed the Japanese ship accelerating and turning into the protestors ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rar9zxH1kts
All the mainstream media and officials would rather just screen the 'official' video of the incident taken form the guilty Japanese ship itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGDNkjFUGo
The Japanese ship claimed the Ady Gil accelerated and turned into it's path.
Really?
Look at the backwash from the Ady Gil's motors. It's not going anywhere until the Japanese ship turned upon them and a collision was imminent, then the Ady Gil was starting to power up to avoid the collision but it was too late.
Ask yourself this if you believe the Japanese fairy tales, why would the crew of the Ady Gil in a very expensive high-tech but non-metal hulled boat throw themselves against the cutting edge bow of a much larger juggernaut knowing that the large ship can't stop and so the Ady Gil would surely be crushed?
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All the Australian government has to do is to say to Japan that owing to public outrage and opinion worldwide, Australia will curtail Japanese investments in Australian matters as well as curtailing exports such as minerals until such time as the whaling stops.
The Japanese whaling industry is incredibly small in comparison to everything else in terms of the returns it produces in general to Japan so some incentive for it to stop would easily accomplish it's abolition.
But all we get here in Australia is such utter drivel from the Prime Minister (who's just been ousted) that 'Japan is a friend and we should try to work out our differences as friends before anything else'.
In other words, shut up you greenies.