Subscribe to Common Dreams News Updates
Most Popular This Week
Popular content
Today's Top News
Ravitch Warns Obama on Education Policy: 'Change Course Before it is Too Late"
Education historian Diane
Ravitch has been talking with thousands of people as she
crisscrosses the country talking about education reform and her New York
Times best-selling book, "The
Death and Life of the Great American School System."
I have written a lot about Ravitch recently because I think she occupies a unique place in the world of education. For years, she was part of the conservative wing of the education world, serving as an assistant secretary in the administration of President George H.W. Bush, and becoming a vocal backer of the second President Bush's No Child Left Behind initiative.
But after looking at the data -- one of the mantras of today's misguided education leaders -- Ravitch reversed her position on NCLB, calling it a failure. And she has become a strong critic of using business principles to run public school districts.
It is the rarest of education book that makes the best seller list, but Ravitch's reads like a scary novel with a plot that drives you to keep turning the page. It would be a great thriller -- if it weren't true.
I conducted an email interview with Ravitch to get an update on what she is encountering as she meets teachers and parents:
Q) I am interested in hearing what you are hearing and learning as you go around the country. Are you getting an earful? A) Over the past three months I have traveled from one end of the country to the other. All told, I have spoken to about 20,000 people, mostly teachers. They are deeply demoralized. They don't like [the $4 billion competition called Race to the Top; they don't like NCLB. They feel that education has been turned into a testing game, with all the life and creativity sucked out of it. Most of them worked for the election of [President] Obama and were hopeful that NCLB was finished.
Imagine how shocked they were to discover that Race to the Top continues the testing regime, expands the Republican push for charters, and now demands that teachers be evaluated by their students' test scores. So, teachers feel trapped. Wherever I go, people ask the same question: "What can we do to stop this madness? Who can we turn to? Who will speak for us?" I don't have very good answers for them, though I do my best to encourage them not to lose hope. Bottom line is that I have yet to encounter a teacher who feels hopeful about what is called "education reform" today. Instead, they see it as an attack on public education and on the teaching profession.
Q) Why do you think your book became a best seller? What space is it filling? A) My book is in its 7th printing in its first three months and it continues to do well. The book has a couple of important pluses: As a historian of education, I am able to explain the historical background of many current policies; readers like that. Also, I write for non-specialists; I avoid jargon. Readers like that too.
I truly think that its popularity has been driven by teachers and parents who are looking for an alternative narrative about the current era of "school reform." Teachers and parents don't understand why President Obama latched onto charters and testing, and my book provides historical context. I have received literally hundreds of emails from teachers thanking me for giving them hope. I am not sure why they find it hopeful, because the situation these days looks hopeless.
As a historian, I cling to the belief that bad ideas eventually lose steam and that evidence will eventually prevail. So much is at stake -- really, our children and our future as a nation -- that we can't afford to lose hope, to stop pushing for a broader, more generous conception of education. We must stop blaming the schools and teachers for social conditions that are beyond their control. We need a far better vision of education than NCLB, the Race or Obama's Blueprint [for school reform] offers.
Critics say that I am defending the status quo, but nothing could be farther from the truth. I have been a critic of the status quo since long before most of today's so-called reformers were born. We must lift our sights and recognize that no high-performing nation is tying its education system to basic skills testing and privatization.
Q) Who have you been meeting as you've been traveling? A) I have talked to anyone who wants to hear me, within the limits of my energy. My audiences are usually dominated by teachers. Many have already read my book. Frequently, I get a standing ovation before I begin speaking and then again when I conclude. I have been around for many, many years, and believe me, this is not what I expected or what I am used to. I have talked at universities, to administrators, to teachers' unions, to school board members, to students in education programs.
Wherever I have gone, the response has been the same: People are worried about what is happening today; they detest NCLB and they now realize that Race to the Top is more of the same and probably worse. My most interesting experience recently was as the keynote speaker at the Reverend Jesse Jackson's Rainbow-PUSH Coalition conference. The audience of parents, teachers, and students was very warm and welcoming. They are fearful for the future of public education. They are concerned that public schools in minority communities have been targeted for privatization, and they don't think this is a positive development.
Q) What specifically have teachers been saying to you? Parents? Principals? A) The story everywhere is the same. I hear that schools have become totally focused on state tests. People are sick of seeing education reduced to test scores. Everyone seems to recognize that standardized tests should be an indicator, not the end of education. They hate the idea that schools are being closed because of low test scores. They know that the schools likeliest to suffer are in low-income communities. They don't want to lose public education. Yet everyone--teachers, parents, administrators--feels helpless, not knowing where to turn because they are now up against a bipartisan consensus around bad ideas. Who will be their champion?
Every teacher knew about the firing of the entire staff at Central Falls High School in Rhode Island; every teacher that I encountered was dismayed that the mass firing was applauded by Secretary Duncan and President Obama. Even though the firing was eventually canceled, teachers got the message; what they heard was mean-spirited, punitive, and deeply indifferent to the real problems that teachers face today in struggling schools. I met young people preparing to teach who wondered whether they had chosen the wrong career, given the way that teachers are to blame if students don't get high scores.
Q) You know the history of education policy -- and the effects -- as well or better than anyone. What are the biggest mistakes the Obama administration is making right now? A) The biggest mistake they have made is that they bought into the consensus around high-stakes testing, this NCLB belief that someone must be punished if scores don't rise every year, especially "bad" teachers. They adopted Republican ideas about accountability and choice, and they have used Race to the Top to promote more privately managed schools and more high-stakes testing.
Living outside the Beltway, I am struck by the fact that the education think tanks in DC are like an echo chamber. Almost all share the "consensus," and because they agree with one another, they think they are right. The Obama administration bought into that consensus, and seems utterly tone-deaf to how their agenda is received outside the Beltway.
Teachers -- not just union leaders -- are unhappy, frustrated, and demoralized. So are parents, because they don't like the high-stakes testing regime either. They don't like that their children are losing time for the arts, science, history, geography, physical education, foreign languages, and everything that is not tested. They may not be well-informed, yet they know that their children are missing out on a good education.
Q) Have you met with any Obama administration officials? Members of Congress? What do you say? What did they say? A) I was recently invited to meet with high-level administration officials in the White House. I told them my concerns. I told them what I have heard from teachers and parents. They told me I was misinformed. I think they should listen more to the grassroots, not just to the think tanks and the media. Over the past few weeks, I have met with many Democratic members of Congress. I have met some really impressive members who understand how destructive the current "reform" movement is. Many agree with me that the emphasis on evaluating teachers will simply produce more teaching to the test, more narrowing the curriculum, more gaming the system. They have heard from their constituents, and they don't like what is going on.
But frankly, these same Congressmen and women tell me that they are probably helpless to stop the President's agenda. The Democratic leadership will give the President and Secretary Duncan what they want, and they will have the support of Republicans. That leaves the Democrats in a quandary. They were not happy to see Secretary Duncan campaigning for his approach with Newt Gingrich. Maybe it will turn out to be a winning strategy for Secretary Duncan. He may get what he wants. It just won't be good for American education or our kids.
Q) When the administration officials told you you were mistaken, what did they say you were mistaken about? A) I asked why they are pushing states to increase the number of charter schools, when studies and NAEP show that charters don't get better results on average than regular public schools; they said they are not pushing states to increase the number of charter schools. I was incredulous because many states lifted their charter caps in hopes of getting RTTT money. When I asked if they thought it was a good idea for state legislatures to set professional standards for evaluating teachers, they again disclaimed any connection with what states are doing to get RTTT money, even though the administration wrote the criteria and the states are responding to them.
Q) If you got a chance to talk to President Obama, what would you tell him? A) I would urge him to change course before it is too late. I would tell him that charter schools in the aggregate don't get better results than regular public schools. I would tell him that his push to have teachers evaluated by student test scores is wrong, and that standards for evaluation should be designed by professionals, not by politicians. I would urge him to stop using language of failing, punishing, closing, and firing and speak instead of improving, building, supporting, and encouraging.
I would urge him to think about ways of strengthening American public education because it is one of the foundational elements of our democracy. I would urge him to speak about the importance of a strong curriculum for all kids in every school, one that includes the arts, history, literature, foreign languages, civics, economics, physical education, science, and mathematics. I would urge him to recognize that high-stakes testing in basic skills steals time from everything else that should be taught and that it is thus undermining education. I would also implore him not to recommend testing every other subject, as there would soon be no time for instruction, only testing.
Q) Do you think there will be political consequences for the administration's education policy? A) The administration's alienation of teachers is a really bad idea politically. There are four million teachers, and they vote. They have families. There are retired teachers, who care deeply about our public education system. The President is heading into a tough mid-term election. I don't see the point of cultivating Republicans and endorsing their agenda of privatization and tough accountability, because they won't vote for him anyway. And I don't see the point of disrespecting public school teachers, who are one of his core constituencies.

51 Comments so far
Show AllDidn't read the interview, don't care tooo.
Just another beaurocrat, that after administering
draconean policy, then retires
gets a conscience
worries about their legecy
and says they were wrong.......
SCREW YOU DIANE RAVITCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BABOON, you really are a BABOON. Stop it. If you don't bother to read the article or the essay, then just go climb up and sit in your tree.
What's the point of YOUR words on Common Dreams if you don't bother to read the words you have written off as not worth reading?
Maybe you want a medal for ignorance?
Please don't waste our time anymore.
Have a banana and go away.
/cm
Why would someone who prefers to remain unenlightened read anything? Do us a favor and don't bother to comment on the next article you don't read.
Maybe you should start reading a little more and pay attention to what the quality of education is doing to great communicators such as yourself. You might even learn to spell! An idiot at the keyboard is still an idiot.
I do not agree. For years she has been an attentive educator who had the best interests of the children at heart. Even at her most conservative, she advocated a rich educational experience for all children, which was a departure from both Dickensian austerity and trendy buzzword visions of schools.
Now she sees that the pathways she had endorsed toward that goal were completely wrong. She sees the testing, cost cutting and privatization motivations more clearly for what they are, and are not. She sees that they do not serve the intellectual and social development of children, especially children for whom education is their one shot for success or stability. And she has the courage to say so.
In my opinion, she is credible. She is not a remorseful phony Ted Haggard type.
Joe
Joe,
See my reply below.
Thanks,
OYE
forget the crumbs - obama has no problem threatening democratic congressmen with primary challengers and ZERO democratic parties monies if they step out of the neo-con line....
Sometimes (actually, quite often) I wonder what planet policy makers live on.
Arne Duncan got his current job because he plays basketball with the President, not because of any qualifications - consider that the Chicago School System he recently left will be firing a number of teachers soon.
People who have never taught think that teaching is easy, and that if the kids do not learn the material, it must be the teachers' fault. I wonder if Duncan has ever tried to teach a kid to read, or to do long division. I wonder if anyone in the Department of Education has ever tried to do these things.
Basing teachers' job security on standardized test results reminds me of the bumper sticker that says "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Obama is not going to change course, because he's a corporate politician and the corporations do not want an educated populace. It's much easier to control an ignorant, uninformed citizenry who dutifully vote for one or the other of two corporate candidates.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
So now she sees the light? Hardly.
The federal funding/testing game has been a problem since before my kids were in school in the 80's. Problems with the declining quality of education in American schools go back to when I was in school in the 60s and early 70s (reasons posted in earlier threads). NCLB was a farce from the onset, which anyone who actually understood the education problem, the conservative agenda and NCLB could figure out. And any person with a smidgeon of common sense should be able to understand how privatization mis-prioritzes objectives away from quality and the pursuit of higher ideas in favor of expediency and profit margins.
Can anybody explain why education should be in the federal political domain at all? Does the Constitution provide for education, or for education as a Federal Government responsibility? Shouldn't education be one of those consecrated human issues that transcend political agendas? Should there be an education amendment?
It should be under some Federal control so that there is some equality across the states and communities. Furthermore, why do you accept the tenant of "declining quality in education"? There are plenty of smart people in this country at the present who can't find jobs. I participated in the education of my children and I believe they received a fine education and had many opportunities beyond what I saw in the 50's and 60's.
Maybe, instead, there's a declining quality of society that the teachers are trying to service?
Evidently you aren't aware of the numerous ranking studies over the years, or of how American kids fall behind kids of other nations in many areas, especially in math, science and even in knowledge of American history.
And to what would you owe a decline in the quality of society? Many comments in many threads on this forum, as well as many articles (including academic journals) make reference to the dumbing of America.
The tragedy is that the White House has anything to do with education other than enforcing the laws regarding discrimination.
Secretary Duncan is a basketball coach. Coaches are promoted to administration. Coaches run the Public Schools. That is why we have wonderful basketball and football teams; and, demoralized teachers and academic education is suffering. Do not underestimate this negative influence on the culture of the schools. The business community and the republican party love the idea of coaches running the schools. It fits their narrow model of discipline and teamwork. Independent thinking suffers greatly under this spartan model. If coaches are not removed from management of the schools, no amount of reform will flower. Private schools select their management from the ranks of academics. The results are obvious.
Stone,
You stated "Coaches run the Public Schools." In my fifteen years in public education I have not seen that that is the case. Actually very few of the administrators were coaches, except those in the Athletic Director position (which to me makes sense). What I have seen is that the administrators that are hired are all quite young with maybe five years of teaching experience. They are much more easily manipulated into doing the wishes of the district administration as they almost invariably double their salary and to keep the position they must learn to kiss ass of those above. If not they don't last long in that district or are given the worst assignments. What I have found is that even though the administrators agree with and know that NCLB is a crock they continue to implement it to keep their jobs. How sad!
I have my Masters in Administration and was in various mid management positions in business before teaching. I hardly ever got interviews for administrative positions due to, from my perspective, too much experience and not enough "maleability" (or the ability to kiss ass). I refused to play the education administration interview game by saying what the interviewers wanted to hear. I told it how I believed it is/was, so. . ., no second interviews. I realized that I didn't want to become an administrator during the NCLB early days and that I really enjoy the classroom interactions with the students. Plus at this stage of life (soon to be 55) I prefer the time off (administrators put in long weeks) as I realized that I burned myself out in the business world working 60-70 hour weeks.
So I don't believe it is a "coaching" problem but one of people lacking the guts to stand up to what they know is wrong (NCLB and more) in order to make more money than if they were in the classroom.
OYE
Oye, it's good that you found the rare exception. Teachers across America have for many years now lamented the path to Superintendent. It begins as a Social Studies teacher/coach, then assistant Principal, then Principal, then Superintendent. These people major in physical education and minor in Social Studies. Generally they are poor Social Studies teachers. Districts will often refuse to employ a person with a Masters Degree in History explaining that that person is not multi-skilled. Interpretation: That person does not have a degree in physical education as well as History. Teachers know that coach's have a LOCK on administration (management). Until education management (administration) is returned to accomplished academics American Public Schools will remain sub-standard. Allowing a coach to run a school is like allowing a bar tender to run a drug rehab clinic.
"Allowing a coach to run a school is like allowing a bar tender to run a drug rehab clinic." Kinda like having a non-educator be the Secretary of Education, eh? Maybe Joe the Plumber can be Oblabla's Surgeon General, eh?
OYE
the government represents constituents? responds to 'vote' threats?
is one educated, if one believes this?
what if true education is understanding the opposite?
wow - surprise of surprises obomba screws the left once again and proves to be the fascist neo-con he really is....
and america is too god-damn stupid to realize it!
as the nicaraguan dictator somoza once famously said when asked about the lack of a public education system "I want oxen not citizens"
another brilliant quote from the somoza family: “You won the elections, but I won the count.”
and in a rare instance of justice somoza was blown to bits by an assassination team in "operation reptile"
how appropriate
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/somoza/somoza-car.jpg
Other countries get better results with their educational systems. This has been true, we are told, since before LNCB was a dream in dubya's eye. We usually do not try to learn much from this. Maybe we should.
If you're a teacher and a kid refuses to learn, there is only so much you can do. If the US wants to try a system where kids can be kicked out of school and sent to pick vegetables if they don't do their homework you might see dramatic improvement in scores (if that really matters). But, I don't think that's what we really want. More realistically, other nations often employ more "tracking" processes segregating students by ability. Here, we've decided it's beneficial for everyone to share the education experience and have an equal chance. We have a free country and that leaves some fee to chose not to learn, and a teacher can not necessarily change that fact.
Basically, before anyone bashes education and teachers, they need to spend some time trying to teach a group of kids in an academic setting. I've done it and your tools are limited. If someone's parent lets them watch TV until 2:00 in the morning, you aren't going to teach them much that day.
"Everyone seems to recognize that standardized tests should be an indicator, not the end of education." A false statement at face value as it only takes one exception to make the statement false. I (along with many others) do not "recognize that standardized tests should be an indicator" in education. As a matter of fact, there is a multitude of problems with standards and standardized testing-see Noel Wilson's "Education Standards and the Problem of Error". (http://epaa.asu.edu/ojs/article/viewFile/577/700)
Abstract
This study is about the categorisation of people in educational settings. It is clearly positioned from the perspective of the person categorised, and is particularly concerned with the violations involved when the error components of such categorisations are made invisible. Such categorisations are important. The study establishes the centrality of the measurement of educational standards to the production and control of the individual in society, and indicates the destabilising effect of doubts about the accuracy of such categorisations. Educational measurement is based on the notion of error, yet both the literature and practice of educational assessment trivialises that error. The study examines in detail how this trivialisation and obfuscation is accomplished. In particular the notion of validity is examined and is seen to be an advocacy for the examiner, for authority. The notion of invalidity has therefore been reconceptualised in a way that enables epistemological and ontological slides, and other contradictions and confusions to be highlighted, so that more genuine estimates of categorisation error might be specified.
Basically what Wilson says is that there are so many errors and obfuscations in the whole process of standards and standardized testing that as a concept it is invalid. Read the dissertation. I've never seen nor heard of a rebuttal to his discussion as it is too dangerous of a study to even rebut-better to leave it to the dustbins of history, forgotten. It is impossible to rebut and it destroys many of the current educational practices.
And Ravitch told me she didn't need to read it because she has all the answers, again, and that I should read her book (more $ for her) for the answers. Well she couldn't see the very well documented at the time negative effects of standardized testing (NCLB) and charter schools when all it took was a little research to locate it. Blinded by the light of conservative thinking she was at the time. How a professor of education history could not find that information at the time is mind boggling (considering Wilson's study is from 1998).
Although Ravitch has come around to realize that she was wrong in her support of NCLB and charter schools, she still has not addressed the FUNDAMENTAL problems that standards and standardized testing inherently have. Until that time I give little credence to what she has to say as she is still working within a paradigm that has been shown to be false and harmful to students.
I challenge all of you educators here at Common Dreams (and everyone else) to download, read and understand what Wilson has to say. Once you do, you will begin to realize just how far off track we are in using standards and standardized testing in attempting to educate the children of this nation (and even the world) and how harmful to the children these concurrent notions are.
OYE
OYE--When I took my Assessment class at NAU during the 1999-2000 semester, our outstanding prof used Wilson's study as part of the core material, and we spent a good 60% of the semester investigation the efficacy of standardized testing. As an older, non-traditional student, I was struck by the inability of such tests to obtain credible validity thus rendering such tests unreliable assessment tools. Yet, the whole mantra from politicos was the need to institute MORE such tests; that such tests were THE answer. Now, it is possible to design such tests to arrive at a measure of vailidity which allows the assessment to be reliable, but that can only be done with reliability by the classroom teacher, not some testing company that has no way of knowing what the class is being taught, nor the make-up of the pupils.
As for Ravitch, I'm surprised she still has her head connected to her neck for all the damage she did to teachers, students, families, and ultimately the whole US society. That she's making money from her fouls deeds is disgusting to the nth degree.
Karlof1,
I am glad to hear that you understand what Wilson has to say. Kudos to your assessment teacher! I ask of you to please try to get as many people reading this study as possible. I hand out copies of it to anyone who has an interest, even those that don't and to all the administrators in our building. It is literally a "subversive" text.
"As an older, non-traditional student, I was struck by the inability of such tests to obtain credible validity thus rendering such tests unreliable assessment tools." For me it's not only the invalidity of the assessment tools themselves but the invalidity of the concept of standards as used in education. And the inherent harm that applications of said standards and assessment tools do to the individual student.
"Now, it is possible to design such tests to arrive at a measure of vailidity which allows the assessment to be reliable, but that can only be done with reliability by the classroom teacher". I'm not sure that even the classroom teacher has that ability as Wilson pointed out in the beginning chapters. As Wilson notes, knowledge and the acquisition of knowledge fall under the category of "quality" and not "quantity". "Quantities" of knowledge is what standards, classroom testing and standardized testing attempt to measure. A logical impossibility.
And I agree 100% with your last statement.
OYE
Yeah, "standards" were another purely bureaucratic aspect along with testing that made me go from wanting to teach 7-12 to teaching at the JC level, which I did for several years after I graduated until the 2003 California budget crisis made me change my course of action. Now I live in Oregon and no longer teach in classrooms. My family contains many teachers and one administator, and all are very happy they taught when they did and have no envy for the crap teachers must put up with today. I live in a rural county whose schools have the typical problems faced by rural schools, but our teachers, parents, administrators, and students have worked hard to overcome those problems to produce quality education; and despite the tough economy, school and school-related bonds are still passed by the community. I'll spread the study around and try to relay what feedback I get.
As a twenty-one year veteran teacher in an urban public school, I find myself following the advice of Voltaire ("tend one's own garden"), closing my classroom door, doing my best with my students, and keeping quiet in certain contexts when I know to do otherwise would be to risk getting fired.
The chaos and misdirection from local, state, and federal levels of public education are overwhelming.
I question the NEA's leadership: what if every public teacher in America refused to report to duty for a week? What potential power teachers collectively have!
Yet no individual leader—absolutely no one in a position of power—someone who could organize peaceful civil disobedience to effect positive changes—is willing to take charge and to use common sense to do the right thing.
This isn't brain surgery!
I'm acutely aware that the about-to-be-released "documentary" entitled LOOKING FOR SUPERMAN is an all-out attack on teacher unions and a posy of praises for charter schools.
None of the state-level union officials I've contacted seem in the least bit concerned.
I have given my life to public education. I was valedictorian of my own high-school class, and I graduated from a prestigious private East-Coast university (and I never would have done so without enormous, grade-based scholarship monies that have long since dried up) as a well-trained Phi-Beta-Kappa cum-laude who, idealistically, committed himself to the American experiment in allegedly egalitarian, democratic education for every citizen.
My students keep me going. They stay in touch. I know that I have helped to educate hundreds.
But I also close my classroom door; I listen to music; I try not to think about the American government's corporate oversight that has led to the inevitable death of Louisiana and the Gulf; and I try to push away thoughts of suicide because I know that I can help more children in my remaining years in the System.
I am nothing special as an educator: there are thousands across America who have done the same with their lives. How is it possible that we teachers—we parents—we citizens of this Great Experiment in Democracy—are unable to effect positive change?
Must we lie down, slaves to our corporations, to our oligarchy, to Big Brother, who is far more alive and potent than Orwell ever could have imagined?
Are we so scared of being shot or financially ruined if we stick out our necks?
What's coming is bad, no matter how quickly we can reform the public schools. We need strong, intelligent, clear-thinking young people who will perhaps be able to minimize the American chaos that is coming. Pandora's box has long been opened. I want to train my children to think, to read, to lead—and I'll continue to try to do so.
But why, then, am I so utterly despairing?
Is it really far, far too late?
Hold on, brother, hold on! Be strong. There are a lot of us out here, staring desperately into that same black well, waiting for a hard shove to throw us in and not knowing what the hell to do about it.
Maybe the only hope is the tiny little flicker that comes through the tiny crack we might still leave open for our kids, whose own descendents might one day salvage a better world out of this madness. Meanwhile, you are doing what you can. Despair is just another dirt sandwich the rat-bastards make you eat, along with the corporatocratic policies. God knows I've been trying to gnash it down for years.
I know, I know. These are just empty words. The glad-handing, butt-smooching apparatchiks who probably run your district and maybe even your union, would probably give you the heave-ho if you spoke up and there wouldn't be much you or I could do about it. Just remember some of us out here are on your team, buddy.
Maybe we are going down, but we can still go down swinging.
jareilly,
Excellent commentary-so true.
OYE
F. Douglas Penn,
Excellent commentary. I have learned to do the same in "closing the class door" as have many other excellent teachers as we (or at least I) feel helpless in effecting change. I did the "school improvement" committee crap-just another means to make it appear that teachers have a modicum of control on decisions at school. But as soon as I started asking the "wrong" questions the administration was determined to get rid of me. I moved on to another school. Even though I will be tenured (again) this year I will temper my comments somewhat. Even then one of our assistant principals always rolls her eyes at my comments/suggestions because they aren't part of her orthodoxy. I have been trying to "train" the principal to question things or at least realize that my questions/comments/concerns have the students in mind and not necessarily institutional needs (NCLB).
You stated "I am nothing special as an educator: there are thousands across America who have done the same with their lives." How true and by those words one can tell that you are more likely than not a "good" teacher. I applaud you!
Also you stated "Must we lie down, slaves to our corporations, to our oligarchy, to Big Brother, who is far more alive and potent than Orwell ever could have imagined?
Are we so scared of being shot or financially ruined if we stick out our necks?" I think you hit the nail on the head with the financially ruined part. As a single parent with my youngest just finishing high school and having a need to help pay for college for two kids it holds true for me. That's part of the oligarchies way of keeping order (the order that allows the uber elite to get more and more).
I too am at a loss at what to do. I have decided, now that I will have more time not having to take care of my son to start writing and put my ideas out there. I know it probably won't make much of a difference but as Joaquin Andujar used to say "ya never know".
OYE
The term "American Education" is an oxymoron.
P.S. dear Americans, an "oxymoron" has nothing to do with Oxen nor Morons.
What you have is an Imperial Indocrination System, consisting of reciting a pledge of alliegence, attending "USA # 1" pep rallies, and the study of fictional historical accounts where the USA is the good guy.
I'm afraid that to keep hope alive, it will be necessary for the Democrats to make the unprecedented and bold move of nominating a new candidate for 2012.
dmgreenaz,
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen. Better still work for and/or vote for those who espouse/promote your thoughts/ideas instead of the "lesser of two evils".
OYE
True but will only become effective if we would go to an "Instant-Runoff" system...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
I wish we would do something along the "instant runoff" system.
Also in a previous post you stated "Maybe, instead, there's a declining quality of society that the teachers are trying to service?" Quite an interesting thought, I like it and hope you don't mind if I use it. And I might add "trying to service and 'rectify'".
OYE
Feel free and say it hourly on Faux news and maybe it will catch on. LOL.
Stop School Reform. It is a total sham.
I lost my job in 2003. Credentialed Education Specialist. Lost my IRA because of poverty. Couldn't get a job after 5 years of trying in a field that was screaming for credentialed teachers. I owe over 15,000 dollars in student loans that were suppose to be paid back in grant that I received. Lost the grant when I could not get a job. Charter schools are nothing more than not paying decent wage or benefits to substitute teachers. Private companies hire you to teach. Example Kelly Educational Services. Regular teachers have to work for reduced wage. NCLB took creativity out of teaching. Nothing like digging in trash cans to get by. Thank you land of opportunity. All you have to do is yell GEORGE and I will be contacting you after you contact me. I live in Long Beach so that will help you.
"Teachers and parents don't understand why President Obama latched onto charters and testing"
Ha, Ha - Who did they think they were electing? Oh, that's right a "black community organizer" (coool!).
=========
" I cling to the belief that bad ideas eventually lose steam and that evidence will eventually prevail"
Bad ideas? Bad for who? If it's good for the rich and powerful then it's a good idea, even if it's bad for everyone else.
=================================
"The biggest mistake they have made is that they bought into the consensus around high-stakes testing, this NCLB belief "
Bought into? Nope, they know which side of the bread is buttered, where the money's at. There good team players now that they're in the country club. Haw haw haw!
The Dept of Education has outlived its usefulness.
We need to shut it down and get the federal gov't out of the education biz. (I have 14 years of classroom teaching experience 7-12) Schools have to be run locally. If some local areas don't do a good job, that's their problem. What we have now is a disaster and a bureaucratic mess.
cassandra,
I agree with what you say about public education being a local function (with the most local being the classroom itself) with a few caveats. Some of those being that the feds should step in when discrimination takes place a la Brown vs Ed. or the special education mandates. Then it should be the individual state that equalizes monies spent so that all children whether in the debilitated urban core, rural poverty counties and/or the richest suburb can have an equal opportunity at getting a decent education. It is the state that mandates public education therefore it should ensure that it is equitably funded.
I ask these questions of many folks and I've hardly ever gotten a correct answer even from educators: What is the legal basis of public education? And then I ask: What is the purpose of public education? Can you pass my little quiz? If you get one wrong then you are a failure (at least according to our current grading system.
Think about our grading system- A, B, C, D, F. Which one of those actually stands for a word? Yep, F for failure unless you want to consider A for ass-kisser, B for brown nose, C for common child and D for deviant. Foucault points out the power of the education system (and others) to influence how the individual perceives him/herself, that which he calls "subjectification". I'm little Johnny/Suzi and as I go through the school system I keep on finding out that I am a "D" or at times an "F" student according to my teachers. By the time I reach third grade (as some studies have indicated) I already do not want to be part of the process. Why would I be? I'm being told that I am less than everyone else or even worse "a failure". Wouldn't you rebel at that notion? So just our grading practices alone are anti-equality, anti-democratic and even anti-social.
But I digress-back to the civics quiz of the second paragraph. The answer to the both questions is each state's constitution (most people who answer guess the US Constitution). In Missouri the constitution states in Article IX, section 1a: "A general diffusion of knowledge and intelligence being essential to the preservation of the rights and liberties of the people, the general assembly shall establish and maintain free public schools for the gratuitous instruction of all persons in this state within ages not in excess of twenty-one years as prescribed by law". So that a "general diffusion of knowledge and intelligence being essential to the preservation of the rights and liberties of the people" meaning that without an education (diffusion of knowledge and intelligence) a citizen would not be able to "preserve" his/her "rights and liberties".
What are those rights and liberties? The answer again lies with the state constitution and also the US constitution (when state constitutions violate the federal one). In Missouri in Article 1, section 2 it states: "That all constitutional government is intended to promote the general welfare of the people; that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the enjoyment of the gains of their own industry; that all persons are created equal and are entitled to equal rights and opportunity under the law; that to give security to these things is the principal office of government, and that when government does not confer this security, it fails in its chief design." It is a very powerful statement about the rights of citizens and the function of government.
I contend that our many of our current public education practices violate this section from unequal funding among districts, to the sorting and separating function that is standardized testing to even classroom "grades" as currently used. Due to Foucault's subjectification, and there is no doubt that this happens, as by the time I get a student (secondary level) he/she has already internalized where he/she is in the grading pecking order, we have already created for the individual unequal privileges. Someone please explain to me how since "all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the enjoyment of the gains of their own industry; that all persons are created equal and are entitled to equal rights and opportunity under the law" these practices to not, on the face of it, abridge those rights. And since "to give security to these things is the principal office of government, and that when government does not confer this security, it fails in its chief design", aren't we as public educators "failing in our chief design"? To me the answer is obvious-yes! On our own grading scale we, public educators from the top to the bottom have an "F" report card-not in the way most people believe that public schools are "failing" (which despite what I've just written, they aren't, but we could be doing a lot better) but in a totally different way-constitutionally and in a way that is harmful to individual students.
I ask all to consider these thoughts and welcome any comments and/or criticisms of my thinking.
OYE
Problem is that, using Texas as an example, their "local politics" are affecting the Text Book content for 97% of the Country. Local School Boards can not afford to print their own text books, or their own tests. If a child applies to a college in another State,or Country, whose standards are different, what are the chances that he/she would get in. There has to be a consensus on standards. When I lived in Tennessee, either you sent your child to a private school, or they did not get an education.
pooka4741,
The "Texas/California" text argument holds no water. I find it amazing that in these days a textbook manufacturer couldn't work within each states guidelines to come up with a text that would be appropriate. Hell a desk top publisher could do it. It appears to me that the text argument is making a mountain out of an anthill.
"If a child applies to a college in another State,or Country, whose standards are different, what are the chances that he/she would get in. There has to be a consensus on standards." No, there doesn't have to be a consensus on standards as the concept of a standard in education is proven to be false and illusory. It is not a function of primary and secondary public education to sort and separate students for the university system. The universities had been admitting students for years without the benefits of "standards" in pre-university public education.
OYE
Let us not forget that the NCLB was the brainchild of a good friend of GEORGE BUSH.
However, people, do not despair of corporate ninny brains taking over education.
Treat the children as the corporates treat their workers!
For example, Bonner and ASSoc. and their criminal ways of forging e-mails. Were they punished? NO.
The supposed culprit was fired. Aha, so corporate schools will do as corporate ninnys do.
If an employe took the fall, then by gosh, so will the students. Bonner didn't get blamed, so why blame the teachers? Bonner obviously didn't train their employee, and Bonner walked away, then so must those corporate teachers. You see corporarte America takes no blame, in fact, the more the class failed, the bigger the raise for the teacher. There is a scary part to corporate mentality, isn't there.
No, I'm NOT serious; I'm just trying to point up the stupidity of NCLB and Corporate Schools.
You see, Mr. Obama, you better read that book and listen to that lady, because, otherwise, you will start to receive mail like this:
der prseydint obama,
u r duyin thangs rite. butt u ned 2 wuk hardur u no. thwnk u 4 lisnin. eye votid 4 u.
ur frennnnd, willyum.
You see, Mr. Obama, the sad part will be that this letter will be from a future son-in-law. ( and he wrote this when he was 20 years old.) Scares you , doesn't it? Well it should.
Everyone needs to face facts: Obama's economics outlook is Hoover on steroids, his "anti-terrorism" outlook is George W Bush on steroids and most of his other outlooks including his outlook on public education are Reagan on steroids. But unlike those three former Presidents who didn't try to confuse people about who they were, Mr. Obama is a complete fraud.
The Powers that Be, and I don't mean the President, are doing their best to Privatize the Public School System. When you control the Media,and control Congress, and control Education of the Children, within a generation, you control America.
Kinda reminds me of where China and Russia were 40 years ago. Only this time, it is the Corporations, not our Government, that are taking over America. The People can see it, but our elected "Representatives", being in the pocket of those Corporations, continue to dismantle the American System.
"kinda reminds. . .
Agree with you 100%. Who would you rather have "governing" you, a corporation who by law must maximize shareholder value or a system whereby you have at least a modicum of control through representation (and unfortunately that is not what we have now)? Instant runoff elections, more representatives per population, etc. could be a start.
OYE
It is about time that educators...
begin calling the US by their true local given name, and NOT
AMERICA
which includes:
2 countries in north America
13 countries in south America
7 countries (more have proclaimed sovereignty)in CentralAmerica
24 countries in the Caribbean
Now
AMERICA,
who is that?
AMERICA
has NOT yet ceded its 46 territories, plus to US.
Not that I know.
Why do apparently intelligent people keep satisfying the expansionist and colonial greed to own the whole hemisphere? Even if it is by their taking false ownership of the name America and American.
Perhaps the same dullness which has pervaded a whole nation as banks took hold of the senate, the white house and the Constitution. Now the banks kick the citizens out, and the "government" cheers the banks with impunity and unconditioned bailouts.
How sustainable is this dullness, this blindness?
How long can we go on brainwashing the masses by telling them they live in a DEMOCRACY, while its leaders conduct a totalitarian socialist state?
Is this the result of dullness or an unquestioned and poor education?
Wake up US!