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American Antiwar Movement Plans an Autumn Campaign Against Policies on Afghanistan
A restive antiwar movement, largely dormant since the election of Barack Obama, is preparing a nationwide campaign this fall to challenge the administration’s policies on Afghanistan.
Medea Benjamin, right, co-founder of the antiwar group Code Pink, protesting at the 2008 Republican National Convention. (Robert Stolarik for The New York Times)
Anticipating a Pentagon request for more troops there, antiwar
leaders have engaged in a flurry of meetings to discuss a month of
demonstrations, lobbying, teach-ins and memorials in October to
publicize the casualty count, raise concerns about the cost of the war
and pressure Congress to demand an exit strategy.
But they face a starkly changed political climate from just a year ago, when President George W. Bush provided a lightning rod for protests. The health care battle is consuming the resources of labor unions and other core Democratic groups. American troops are leaving Iraq, defusing antiwar sentiments in some quarters. The recession has hurt fund-raising for peace groups and forced them to slash budgets. And, perhaps most significant, many liberals continue to support Mr. Obama, or at least are hesitant about openly criticizing him.
“People do not want to take on the administration,” said Jon Soltz, chairman of VoteVets.org. “Generating the kind of money that would be required to challenge the president’s policies just isn’t going to happen.”
Tom Andrews, national director for an antiwar coalition, Win Without War, said most liberals “want this guy to succeed.” But he said the antiwar movement would try to convince liberals that a prolonged war would undermine Mr. Obama’s domestic agenda. Afghanistan, he said, “could be a devastating albatross around the president’s neck.”
But there is also a sense among some antiwar advocates that Mr. Obama’s honeymoon with Democrats in general and liberals in particular is ending. As evidence, they point to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll showing that 51 percent of Americans now feel the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, a 10-point increase since March. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
“We’re coming out of a low period,” said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of the antiwar group Code Pink. “But as progressives feel more comfortable protesting against the Obama administration and challenging Democrats as well as Republicans in Congress, then we’ll be back on track.”
The Obama administration has opposed legislation requiring an exit strategy, saying it needs time to develop new approaches to the war. “Given his own impatience for progress, the president has demanded benchmarks to track our progress and ensure that we are moving in the right direction,” a White House official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The October protest schedule is expected to include marches in Washington and elsewhere. But organizers acknowledge that it may be difficult to recruit large numbers of demonstrators. So groups like United for Peace and Justice are also planning smaller events in communities around the country, including teach-ins with veterans and families of deployed troops, lobbying sessions with members of Congress, film screenings and ad hoc memorials featuring the boots of deceased soldiers and Marines.
“There are some that feel betrayed” by Mr. Obama, said Nancy Lessin, a founder of the group Military Families Speak Out. “There are some who feel that powerful forces are pushing the president to stay on this course and that we have to build a more powerful movement to change that course.”
The October actions will be timed not only to the eighth anniversary of the first American airstrikes on Taliban forces and the seventh anniversary of Congressional authorization for invading Iraq, but also an anticipated debate in Congress over sending more troops to Afghanistan. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the commander of American forces in Afghanistan, is widely expected to request additional troops, beyond the 68,000 projected for the end of the year, after finalizing a policy review in the next few weeks.
The antiwar movement consists of dozens of organizations representing pacifists, veterans, military families, labor unions and religious groups, and they hardly speak with one voice. Some groups like Iraq Veterans Against the War have started shifting their focus toward Afghanistan, passing resolutions demanding an immediate withdrawal of troops from there. Others, like VoteVets.org, support the American military presence in Afghanistan, calling it crucial to fighting terrorism.
And some groups, including Moveon.org, have yet to take a clear position on Afghanistan beyond warning that war drains resources from domestic programs.
“There is not the passion around Afghanistan that we saw around Iraq,” said Ilyse Hogue, Moveon.org’s spokeswoman. “But there are questions.”
There are also signs that some groups that have been relatively quiet on Afghanistan are preparing to become louder. U.S. Labor Against the War, a network of nearly 190 union affiliates that has been focused on Iraq, is “moving more into full opposition to the continuing occupation” of Afghanistan, said Michael Eisenscher, the group’s national coordinator.
“President Obama risks his entire domestic agenda, just as Johnson did in Vietnam, in pursuing this course of action in Afghanistan,” Mr. Eisenscher said.
Handfuls of antiwar protestors can still be seen on Capitol Hill, outside state office buildings and around college campuses. Cindy Sheehan, for instance, has set up her vigil on Martha’s Vineyard while Mr. Obama vacations there. But many advocates say a lower-key approach may be more effective in winning support right now.
An example of that strategy is an Internet film titled “Rethink Afghanistan,” which is being produced and released in segments by the political documentary filmmaker Robert Greenwald. In six episodes so far, Mr. Greenwald has used interviews with academics, Afghans and former C.I.A. operatives to raise questions about civilian casualties, women’s rights, the cost of war and whether it has made the United States safer.
The episodes, some as short as two minutes, are circulated via Twitter, YouTube, Facebook and blogs. Antiwar groups are also screening them with members of Congress. Mr. Greenwald, who has produced documentaries about Wal-Mart and war profiteers, said the film represented a “less incendiary” approach influenced by liberal concerns that he not attack Mr. Obama directly.
“We lost funding from liberals who didn’t want to criticize Obama,” he said. “It’s been lonely out there.”
Code Pink is trying to build opposition to the war among women’s groups, some of which argue that women will suffer if the Taliban returns. In September, a group of Code Pink organizers will visit Kabul to encourage Afghan women to speak out against the American military presence there.
And Iraq Veterans Against the War is using the Web to circulate episodes of a documentary, “This Is Where We Take Our Stand,” filmed in 2008 at its Winter Soldier conference, at which veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan testified about civilian casualties, combat stress and other tolls of the wars.
The group’s leaders say they do not expect many people to take to the barricades against the administration any time soon. But that will change, they argue, as the death toll continues to rise.
“In the next year, it will more and more become Obama’s war,” said Perry O’Brien, president of the New York chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War. “He’ll be held responsible for the bloodshed.”- Posted in

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Show AllStanding outside office buildings is too high key? GAG !!
Going to see how many people/outfits can fit in my spam list:obama,all his cronies,dems,repugs,moveon,and now votevets.org.As a vet there is no excuse any of this occupation of another country.For what?9/11?We have killed more innocent people than a ton of 9/11's!"War,what is it good for?Absolutly nothing!It is to late for the first to die but who wants to be the next or the last for a lie and for people who consider themselves better than anybody else,corporations that are considered "persons" but I dont see their blood shed for the lucre that comes to them?Money will not save their hearts and minds and mainly their Souls.Tony
You summed it up so well , Tony.
this is so sad...just more war, war, war, lies, propaganda...the powerful and the rich profiteering ...ordinary americans and people elsewhere sacrificed on the Games of Profit and Blood planned and instigated and promoted by
people with such coldness and cruelty . there is simply no other way to say it.
there was a famous person, i always forget those names from reading so many over the years, that said:
"how I hate these people in the comfort of their offices who send men and women to kill and die - against people who otherwise have no quarrels with us"....
for that is really what it is about. it is so sad. so many lives, both american and outside america , destroyed..women, men, children , old, young, even rich or poor...entire cultures and relationships that were , if not the best, better were left alone for having become WORSE because of US wars and intrusions.
there is a film -- I hope you can find and watch it on DVD..
"THE KITE FLYER"...although it is centered upon the experiences of two little boys who are best friends..starting from when the Soviets occupied afghanistan to prop up the communist regime..while the USA also egged on what BECAME the Taliban and al qaeda...
and how the boys were estranged after a sad episode to the "poor" boy - and the rich boy escaped with his dad to the USA after the Taliban was "victorious" (remember the USA beefed THEM up) ...
and how he had to go home to "correct" a very old "sin" he committed against his childhood friend who who was so loyal and sacrificing for him ....
you will see how these "war games" have destroyed what WAS once a BEAUTIFUL, UNIQUE in its own age-old ways , culture of the afghanis...with their own sets of ethics and honor and freedoms ....
you will really cry after watching it.
Wikipedia:
In Kabul, before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, well-to-do teenage boy Amir and his very loyal Hazara servant Hassan (the son of his father's servant Ali) are best friends. Amir goes to school, but Hassan does not; as a result, he cannot read. Amir likes literature and reads stories to Hassan. His father Baba (A Persian term similar to "papa" in English) thinks he is not tough enough, Amir lets Hassan protect him when he is bullied. Amir worries that Baba does not like him because Amir's mother died giving birth to him.
Amir also writes a story himself. Amir’s father is not very interested, but his friend Rahim Khan reads it and encourages him.
One day Hassan and Amir come across Assef, a bully with rancor towards Hazaras, and his two friends. He prepares to fight Amir and Hassan, but Hassan threatens him with his slingshot. They back off but Assef warns them that he will take revenge.
Amir and Hassan like kite fighting. It is a popular sport in Kabul, in which the lines are coated with a mixture of finely crushed glass and glue, for cutting the line of a competitor. In the competition whoever catches a kite of which the line is cut can keep it. Therefore children run for them. Hassan is the "kite runner" for Amir. He seems to have a gift of knowing where they will land. Amir wins a tournament. Hassan fetches the kite Amir has cut, but runs into Assef and his two henchmen. Assef demands the kite, but Hassan refuses to give it up. Because of that, Assef beats and rapes him. While looking for Hassan, Amir approaches this scene, and hiding, watches the rape. He neither defends Hassan, nor calls for help. Amir and Hassan never tell anyone what happened, and do not talk about it among themselves. When Amir comes home he is finally praised by Baba for winning the tournament, but Amir realizes that the opposite would have been the case if Baba had known what had happened.
Amir and Hassan both become emotionally downcast. Amir feels guilty of being a coward, realizing that Hassan was brave; if Baba knew what happened he might love Hassan more than him. Amir decides it would be best if Hassan would leave. He suggests to Baba to hire other servants but Baba angrily refuses. Amir frames Hassan as a thief, and Hassan falsely confesses. Baba forgives him, despite the fact that, as he explained earlier, he believes that "there is no act more wretched than stealing". Ali and Hassan decide to leave, in spite of Baba begging and ordering them to stay.
A short while later, the Soviets invade Afghanistan; since Baba is well-known as an anti-communist, Amir and Baba fled; Rahim Khan will watch over the house. On the way a female refugee is about to be raped by a Soviet soldier; Baba defends her, in spite of Amir's justified fear that Baba will be killed. The soldier's superior prevents harm to the woman and to Baba. The refugees hide in the tank of a fuel truck on the road to Peshawar, Pakistan. After waiting six months, Baba and Amir were granted visas from the Immigration and Naturalization Service and were allowed to relocate to the United States.
They start living in Fremont, California. After having lived in luxury in an expensive mansion in Afghanistan, they now settle in a humble apartment. Baba begins work at a gas station, and Amir goes to community college. Every Sunday, Baba and Amir make extra money selling used goods at a flea market in San Jose. There, Amir meets Soraya Taheri and her family; Soraya is interested in Amir's writing skills, although her father, a former Afghan authority called General Taheri, is contemptuous of them. Baba gets very ill, but is still capable of doing Amir a big favor: he asks the general permission for Amir to marry her. He agrees and the two marry. Shortly thereafter Baba dies, happy for his son's good life, but sadly long from his beloved motherland Afghanistan. Amir and Soraya learn that they cannot have children. Amir's first novel is published; Amir has dedicated it to Rahim Khan, who (as opposed to Baba) encouraged him as beginning writer.
Amir receives a phone call from Rahim Khan (this is partly already shown at the start of the film, so the rest of what was shown until here was a long flashback), telling him to come to Pakistan, because "there is a way to be good again". (Perhaps he knows that in the past Amir framed Hassan as a thief, or he refers to not keeping in touch with Hassan.) Amir agrees and flies to Pakistan to meet him. Rahim Khan tells Amir that he had hired Hassan as caretaker of Baba's house, and that the Taliban ordered him to give it up and leave, but that he refused, and was killed. His wife desperately attacked them and was killed too. Hassan was actually Amir's half-brother, being an illegitimate son of Baba. Amir is angry for having been deceived all his life. Rahim Khan gives Amir a draft of a letter that Hassan was going to send to Amir: he is sad about what happened to the country and hopes Amir can visit him one day.
The reason that Rahim Khan has called Amir to Pakistan is to go to Kabul where Hassan's son, Sohrab, is believed to live in an orphanage, and to take him out of Afghanistan to give him better living conditions. First Amir is reluctant to go and offers money to have Sohrab brought out of the country by somebody else, but Rahim Khan thinks he should do it himself.
Amir agrees; he returns to Taliban-controlled Kabul with Farid as a guide and driver. Reluctantly Amir follows Farid's instruction to glue on a fake beard, as a beard is compulsory under Taliban rule. When Amir watches a passing Taliban patrol, Fahrid urges him never to stare at them.
Zaman, the director of the orphanage where Sohrab is supposed to be, tells them that a Taliban official comes once every two months to take a child (usually a girl, sometimes a boy) and bring some money very needed to feed the orphans. Sohrab was one of them. Amir reproaches him for allowing that, but the man says that if he refuses they take ten children, and besides, he needs the money for the remaining children. Reluctantly Amir goes with Farid to a football match (with bearded players) where in the break an adulterous woman is stoned to death, because there he can meet the man who took Sohrab. Amir sets an appointment with this man and meets him at his home. There he finds out that the Taliban official is Assef. Violating the ban on music and dancing, music is played, and Sohrab is introduced to Amir dancing to this music; apparently Assef made him his dance boy. Assef orders his guards to leave the room. Doing what he could not do as a child, Amir stands up to Assef and demands that the boy be released to him. Assef agrees, but as the price Amir has to pay for the boy, Assef attacks Amir brutally. However, Sohrab has the slingshot with him which he got from his father, who got it as a birthday present from Amir long ago. Amir is saved when Sohrab uses it and shoots a brass ball from the base of a turned-over table into one of Assef's eyes. Amir and Sohrab manage to escape the house, and leave with Farid, who waited in the car, while under fire from the guards. Without further complications (though paying a bribe at the border) they leave the country.
Amir returns with the boy to the house of Rahim Khan, but he has died. The traumatized boy runs away from the hotel, but to Amir's relief he returns. He says he feels dirty because of what Assef daily did to him.
Amir takes Sohrab, who is still traumatized and withdrawn, back to Fremont, California. At dinner one night, General Taheri asks why Amir brought "that Hazara boy" back with him. Amir, again showing courage in the face of an overbearing figure, tells the General the truth and insists that he never call Sohrab "that Hazara boy" around him ever again. Later, Amir shows Sohrab the tricks of kite flying. Slowly Sohrab begins to interact with Amir, who enthusiastically runs the kite, saying to Sohrab the phrase Hassan said to Amir in the past: "For you, a thousand times over."
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We need the oil. Afghanistan is the route of a planned pipeline. Our military uses more oil than any body else, so to be the "power", we must go after the oil.
On the "Oil Drum. com", there is a discussion of EROEI ( Energy returned on energy invested). We may be getting to the point that we are using more oil to run the military than we will gain access to by controlling Afghanistan. Our track record in Iraq doesn't seem to bode well for our endeavor.
You may want to email the President and tell him that Afghanistan = tar baby.
Afghanistan is the route of a planned pipeline.
I thought that it was a natural gas pipeline to India that we destroyed America for.
I remember a bumper sticker from the late 1960s: "War is good business--Invest your sons." Some things never change.
The endless wars that the U.S. is entangled in are all about profits for Haliburton, Blackwater, General Electric, et al. Barack Obama and the rest of the sellouts in Washington are cashing in as well.
Welcome to Amerikkka. Sieg heil.
When we say US elites are down and out we're referring to a much greater discrediting than was witnessed over the past eight years. It extends much farther back. Recognition today of the failure of US policies over the past fifty years is widespread, like never before. The folly of the Cold War is now widely recognized. The folly of the economic system, the fossil gluttony, feverishly promoted by US elites over the past fifty years - widely recognized. The US transport infrastructure is widely recognized as a massive boondoggle, so is the US healthcare system copied by nobody. US academic intitutions are losing stature, their flagship ideas discredited. This is why US elites are sliding down the slippery slope toward fascism. They've lost what they cherish most - influence and power. They are behaving like babies who lost their rattlers. The little devils are most vulnerable today. The people's opportunities have never been better.
without jumping to conclusions about how the ordinary Japanese feel about the US "model" -- considering japan's own imperial attempts that it KNOWS - at the very least, all of asia will never forget -
it's news today that the recent elections for parliament - has - only for the second time since world war 2 - resulted in a LANDSLIDE defeat of the erstwhile ruling "Liberal democrats" to the SOcial democrats...
the winners - in the lower house having won at least 200 seats out of a little over 300 (supermajority will be 220) ..
and something comparable in the upper house
seesm to portend that the former "opposition" already had made known that they wish to BAN US nuclear weapons anywhere in japan ...wish to move closer to china and repair lingering bitterness from the "SINO_JAPAN" war that later morphed into the pacific theatre of World War 2..
the japanese clearly seem unhappy with the declining economy - and seem to point fingers at the reason being the vestiges of what are called there as "US DICTATES".
the new majority is of course promising to continue friendly relations with the USA ...as why shouldn't they? but they seem to have long decided - and on THAT basis WON the landslide - but they also seem to have made it known that wish to end their "commitment" to the USA"s military war in afghanistan...and along with the ban on nuclear sites by the USA - supposedly because these are against what they say is their "Pacifist constitution" - which they naturally had to show after being the clear aggressors in world war 2 in asia.
they are already hedging their bets for the long-term...the rise of china and its "gathering" other asian countries into an economic zone to rival the west ...would have been obvious by now to the japanese...
THEY can not remain a vassal of the USA and still maintain a "leading" voice in asian affairs - unless they wish to be seen as a US puppet and Stooge.
they are clearly deciding that it is better NOT to be seen as the "outsider" among ASIAN nations emerging as economies...even as their former enemies they occupied and still owe much to , such as china and korea..have long already been critical of US dominance...
the japanese clearly also have noted that the TWO koreas continue to come closer despite the still vast differences stemming from the "cold war" (which, after all, was ALSO instigated by the USA) - as witness the visit by the NORTH koreans to south korea last week at the state funeral of the south's former president - who HIMSELF was critical of US dictates - and have agreed to strengthening "family ties" between the sundered families between the north and south.
in other words - a VERY STRONG asian cultural process is at work here -- even against the present many critical differences and rivalries...one strong enough to show asians that - despite THEIR differences - there is a greater difference between THEMSELVES and THEIR regional interest as a bloc --- and the USA, which , they all know from their own histories has mainly been IMPERIAL as easily as was japan's.
this seems a trend that it is time to "diversify" their "loyalties"....or wean themselves a little distance from US "dictates"...
this is from NEW York Times.
we'll see what happens from this. but it seems that japan is recognizing more fully that probably at least as much of its own future prosperity depends ON being PART of asia , rather than a "nominal western power" - as the USA largely shaped it after world war 2.
however that comes about - what it shows is another lesson in history...
applied to the USA....
its own imperial designs and wishes to remain the globes hegemon , unchallenged, forever ......
CAN NOT BE MAINTAINED....partly for reasons of ITS own doing...
partly because other countries will EVENTUALLY seek their own "independence" ...it's just the nature of things, it seems....
although , as Lee Hamilton of the 9/11 Committee and Watergate inquiry -- said a few years ago:
"we americans -- we NEVER learn , do we?"
something to consider........in yet another gradual but tectonic shifting of polarities -- which aren't exactly going to be to the liking of the USA.
this is also a "testing time" for -- AUSTRALIA.....
the question that will eventually be posed to australia:
"ARE YOU a western nation wishing to continue to impose US dictates and merely an outpost for that -- or are YOU part of the Asian regional complex?"
in many ways -- the recent jailing by CHINA - whatever those accusations are about "spying and bribery" - against officials of Australian Companies doing business in china
is really a deeply buried QUESTION of that nature to australia..it is really being served "notice" to declare its "identity"....DESPITE its white majority and social and economic structure.
Please stop referring to these parasites as 'elites'.
"The health care battle is consuming the resources of labor unions and other core Democratic groups."
~The HealthCare issue, an Election issue (used for votes and a wedge) is once again being used to divide the people and divert their attention from the ongoing Illegal Wars!
"The recession has hurt fund-raising for peace groups and forced them to slash budgets."
~The Recession and the Wars (and arguably HealthCare) can ALL be solved by paying attention to and ELIMINATING the TRUE cause of ALL of these issues, the "federal" Reserve. We Need to Support HR1207 & S604 as the beginning steps towards ENDing the "FED" - Then Mark my words, you will see ALL the other problems begin to get solved.
"And, perhaps most significant, many liberals continue to support Mr. Obama, or at least are hesitant about openly criticizing him."
~You silly, Ignorant people NEED to WAKE UP and Realize Obama is NOT one of you, He does NOT want to END the WARS, HE Wants to ESCALATE the WARS and HIS Bank Account as well. Obama is a HOAX - He is a FASCIST - OBAMA Truly is A JOKER!
“People do not want to take on the administration,”
~People better UNITE, set aside the FALSE Left/Right Paradigm, start acting like Americans and Take on the Corrupt Administration and the Over all Corrupt Government System and Elitist Banksters, Before it is Too Late, and We NO Longer have a Free County to defend!
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Ditto!
I wish the health care battle were consuming more of the resources of the unions. The response so far seems tepid to me. But maybe I am missing something.
Joe
“He’ll be held responsible for the bloodshed.”
Would this be using the B/C punishments as a model?
The only choice for traitors should be: " Would you prefer nylon or hemp?"
(“Given his own impatience for progress, the president has demanded benchmarks to track our progress and ensure that we are moving in the right direction,” a White House official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.)
What reason is there to be "anonymous"....NOTHING WAS SAID!............Progress? Benchmarks? Right direction? Typical Obama rhetoric that amounts to a big ZERO. And this is what the Obamamaniacs are holding on to? PULLEASSE!
Marian Cole,
We need to remind President Obama that we(I)think killing and maiming people is not an honorable pursuit nor will it make anyone safer. There are many good people with stellar intellects in this Nation and Iraq and Afghanistan who could negotiate a peaceful way out of both of these Wars. The waste of lives needs to end now.
The main thing I can't understand about President Obama is his Afpak war recalcitrance. Is he appalled at the thought of another attack on the United States and so thinks the best answer is to fire bullets and drones indiscriminately in every direction? I am deeply moved by the Silver Spring testimony of a certain Winter Soldier, who said that not only do we kill the wrong people but that we ALWAYS kill the wrong people.
Three times in the past two weeks I have gotten into horrible discussions with people who think the Afpak war is the way to go. Apparently they think we're killing the "right" people. But when you scratch at the information they use to justify their view, you find that they are deeply influenced by the James Bond movie DOCTOR NO. Osama Bin Laden is in a cave so huge that it contains an entire fleet of airliners revving jet engines. And out the rear of the cave, behind a false wall, exends a wormhole through which the planes will fly to San Francisco. And the cave is chock full of terrorists. They're all in one place! So with a single, well-placed bomb we can rid the world of terrorism forever.
So what is the answer? said one of my antagonists, a man with whom I had just been having a delightful discussion about other subjects. That "we come home and bury our heads in a sandbox?"
Come home, yes. Bury our heads in a sandbox, no. Take care of problems at home, yes. Quit meddling where we don't belong, yes. Quit recruiting new members of the Taliban through our presence, yes. And quit broad-brushing or profiling "the Taliban," a name that sounds like "Caliban," a famous monster in Shakespeare who is like Haji in Iraq or nigger in the old America. Apparently "the Taliban" contains all sorts of people, and they don't fly airliners and fire another squirt gun into the face of another school girl every five minutes.
Apparently (the information is sketchy), the acid squirting happened twice or so and nobody is sure who did it. Dexter Filkins, the former New York Times reporter, raised all the money necessary to fly the most disfigured girl to Texas for restorative surgery. Her family won't permit this, however, because they are afraid of reprisals.
This is typical. As long as we keep our insane military presence in Afghanistan no one can do ANYTHING. And I'm very sure that the presence of our wrong-shooting, wrong-bombing soldiers and contractors isn't helping Greg Mortenson of the Central Asia Foundation to build new schools.
"American troops are leaving Iraq, "
Really?
US troops levels in Iraq 2009 = @ 130,000
US troop levels in Iraq 2004 = @ 108,000
Projected US troop levels in Afghanistan: @ 68,000
Obama's plan (Bush's SOFA) states that:
Early 2010: 128,000
August 2010: 35,000 - 50,000
By the end of 2011: Complete withdrawal
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/06/200963054650513164.html
Yet Obama has also pledged not to withdraw forces faster than 1-2 brigades per month.
Brigade strength typically ranges from 1,500 to 4,000 personnel.
If withdrawal only starts (from the level of 130,000) in Jan. 2010, and we withdraw 2 brigades a month with a maximum range of 8,000 troops (two brigades at maximum levels), we wind up withdrawing 64,000 troops by August 2010. Leaving a minimum of 66,000 troops in Iraq. Not 35,000 - 50,000.
So now we get closer to the truth.
Brigadier General Heidi Brown, in charge of overseeing the US withdrawal from Iraq says:
"No Change in Iraq Troop Levels Until After 2010 Election"
"Gen. Brown also hinted that the August 2010 goal had been significantly revised, however. Whereas before President Obama had planned to leave up to 50,000 troops “indefinitely” beyond the official end to combat missions, she suggested the target level was now “50,000 to 75,000 troops.” Furthermore, the remaining troops “would pick up additional duties from departing troops.”"
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/08/30/us-general-claims-iraq-pullout-moving-forward/
Leaving 75,000 troops + an unknown number of contractors (over 190,000 in early 2008), is NOT leaving Iraq.
Saying that we "hope" to be fully out by 2012 (unless "conditions on the ground change" is tantamount to Cheney's famous assurance that the insurgency was in it's "death throes" or Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam War.
We are still occupying Iraq.
Iraq should be part of this protest as well as Afghanistan.
"Mr. Greenwald, who has produced documentaries about Wal-Mart and war profiteers, said the film represented a “less incendiary” approach influenced by liberal concerns that he not attack Mr. Obama directly."
What an unbelievable coward! They are literally admitting that they are going to avoid "directly" criticizing the President, NOT because he doesn't deserve it, but because people like him.
When trying to educate Obama supporters is it really such a good idea to coddle their fantasies and level of indoctrination? Is the corollary true, that if talking to a proud Republican, we should omit criticism of Bush from criticism of the Iraq War?
"But many advocates say a lower-key approach may be more effective in winning support right now. "
Great! Just what we need - if the slumbering peace movement gets any more "low-key" it will slip into a coma.
Another Catch 22 to add, Pudepoh, is that there's no mention in the Iraq withdrawal plans of the mercenaries in Iraq, who outnumber U.S. soldiers, I understand.
As for the tepid reactions quoted in this article, it probably just reflects the sources of this New York Times reporter, or the article's slant. Only loyal Dems project this "let's give Obama more time" kind of attitude. Most long-time antiwar activists are disgusted by Obama.
-TIA
I will march against the war in Afghanistan as I have against so many other wars, proxy wars, low intensity conflicts, cold war and economic sanctions,and torture through the years. I was ready to retire because I am getting tired of dreaming I can change things and end the violence.I now hope for the young people to take over. But I will be there to witness and express outrage that our nation is engaged in killing innocent civilians as if they are expendable because American civilians were killed by terrorist as if they were expendable because Muslim people were killed by US funded and organized wars and imposed economic sanctions as if they were expendable.
I will march in witness against the horror of the endless cycle of cruelty and violence. I will join many others who share a common dream of reconcilation instead of retaliation .
Dear friends of peace, in a world that needs to trust again,
This is a sincere call for all peacemakers to unite for the Peace Trek in the Great Afghan Outdoors on the 25th of Sept 2009
I feel that the historical and sociopolitical timing and place-events are opportune for non-violent peace to have a united, majority voice.
Humanity has been in the non-creative, escalating grip of violence for too long now.
Worldwide public opinion is swinging against the Afghan war. Peacemakers need to ‘seize the swing’ towards peace together.
I don’t know what else to say.
If 100,000 plus troopers ( perhaps a greater surge to come )can represent their countries in the Afg/Pak war, we ask for peacemakers to come.
Please come if you can. Invite someone else if you can’t.
With dignity in Afghanistan,
Hakim
On behalf of Our Journey to Smile
http://ourjourneytosmile.com/blog
It will be interesting to see the turn that this movement results in
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