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McCain Evolved From Reluctant Warrior to Interventionist
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful John McCain fixed his sights on Saddam Hussein long before President Bush sent the U.S. military to oust the Iraqi dictator in March 2003.
Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain (R-AZ) listens to Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) during the presidential debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee October 7, 2008. Although he's cultivated a maverick image, McCain's fixation with Iraq, and with regime change more generally, is squarely in step with his party's neoconservatives, many of whom now work for his campaign. (REUTERS/Jim Young)
Four years earlier, the Arizona senator told a Kansas State University audience
that Saddam was amassing illicit weapons, and that the U.S. should arm
opposition groups to overthrow him, along with North Korea's leaders
and other "odious regimes."
Saddam, however, no longer had any chemical, biological or nuclear arms programs. Covert U.S. efforts to oust him had all failed because the Iraqi opposition was riddled with feuds and Iraqi spies, and because the exiles whom McCain favored - led by Ahmad Chalabi, a purveyor of bogus intelligence on Iraq who also had ties to Iran - had virtually no followers in Iraq.
For years, McCain repeated the same assertions about Iraq's weapons programs and ties to terrorism that the Bush administration later used to make its case for invading Iraq. Today, he insists that the war was right and that last year's surge of additional troops to Iraq has put the U.S. "on the road to victory" there.
Although he's cultivated a maverick image, McCain's fixation with Iraq, and with regime change more generally, is squarely in step with his party's neoconservatives, many of whom now work for his campaign. Neoconservatives believe that the U.S. must preserve its unchallenged global dominance and military superiority, and reshape the world, by force if necessary.
"There is no question that he (McCain) reflects the hard-line neocon view," said retired Army Brig. Gen. John Johns, a former supporter who's known McCain since his return from Vietnam but is backing Democratic nominee Barack Obama. "With his attitude, his finger on the trigger, the slightest thing will (cause him to) execute that philosophy."
Not true, responded Max Boot, a McCain campaign foreign-policy adviser.
"He is not a warmonger, as the caricature has it, but someone who is very prudent on the use of the American military," Boot said. "He takes things on a case-by-case basis. He has no overarching ideological vision that he would impose on the messy reality of the world."
McCain says that as a Vietnam veteran and a former prisoner of war, he "hates war" and believes that force should be the "last option."
He promises to employ "all instruments of national power" - military, economic and diplomatic - and work with allies to deal with adversaries, and with Democrats to forge bipartisan foreign policy.
"Senator McCain has always made his own calls based on his assessment of the various situations we face in various parts of the world," Boot said. "He is a very careful, prudent thinker who knows the military and how it should be employed."
The words "diplomacy" and "State Department," however, don't appear on the McCain-Palin campaign Web page, which outlines a national security platform heavy with vows to pump up U.S. military muscle.
While McCain has toned down many of his hard-line pronouncements in this campaign, a McClatchy review of dozens of his speeches, interviews, statements and writings over more than two decades traces an evolution from reluctant warrior to advocate of U.S. military intervention on a global scale.
In speeches and interviews McCain:
- Has vowed, since at least 1999, to institute a "rogue state rollback" policy of arming rebel forces to replace regimes in Iraq, Iran, Libya, North Korea and other nations. He said such nations were developing weapons of mass destruction, supporting terrorism and threatening "our interests and values." (Background material here, here, here and here.)
- Has advocated sending the U.S. military to "back up" those rebel forces "when they meet with reversals."
- Has said that civilian casualties should be a secondary concern of military operations.
- Has invoked a variety of justifications for using force, from defending the nation's security, allies, interests and "principles and values" to halting genocide in places such as Darfur and Kosovo and salvaging U.S. "credibility."
- Has called for the creation of a "League of Democracies" to circumvent the U.N. Security Council when Russia and China oppose the use of force, tough sanctions or other actions sought by the U.S.
Supporters insist that there's much more to McCain. They cite his leadership in restoring diplomatic relations with Vietnam, fighting global warming and promoting human rights, democracy and religious freedom as a long-time president of the International Republican Institute.
"I don't see much of an actual evolution here," Boot said. "I see someone who has devoted his life" to studying military affairs, including "how (military force) can be used effectively."
But a transformation in McCain's views can be traced through his words and stances.
He first gained attention as a freshman congressman in 1983 by breaking with the Reagan administration to oppose an extension of the U.S. troop deployment in Lebanon.
McCain also resisted the use of ground troops to end the 1990-91 Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, arguing that U.S. airpower could drive out Saddam's forces. He opposed invading Iraq - which at that time had chemical, biological and nuclear arms programs - because U.S. troops "couldn't tell a Shiite from a Sunni" and Saddam would be turned "from the bum he is" into a "hero" of the Arab world.
Two years later, McCain sponsored a resolution demanding that the Clinton administration immediately withdraw U.S. forces from Somalia after 18 U.S. troops died in a battle with al Qaida-training fighters depicted in the film "Blackhawk Down."
"The American people did not support the goals of nation building, peacemaking, law and order, and certainly not warlord hunting," McCain said in an Oct. 14, 1993, Senate speech on Somalia.
In the same speech, he decried as "baloney" the notion that a withdrawal would diminish U.S. prestige and insisted that Congress had the constitutional power to pull U.S. forces out of unpopular foreign conflicts if the president wouldn't.
The following year, he demanded that U.S. troops leave Haiti. "In Haiti, there is a military government we don't like," The New York Times quoted him as saying in July 1994. "But there are other governments around the world that aren't democratic that we don't like. Are we supposed to invade those countries, too?"
Yet when it came to Iraq, a far more formidable challenge than Somalia or Haiti, McCain embraced the neoconservative belief that a U.S. occupation would foster peace and democracy throughout the Middle East. He also backed the U.S. military's lead role in Iraqi reconstruction, argued that a withdrawal would weaken U.S. stature and, contradicting his statement on Somalia, asserted that only Bush - not Congress - had the authority to order a pullout. (More here and here.)
McCain's apparently ideological shift began after Haiti. His conversion coincided with his becoming president of the New Citizenship Project, a neoconservative advocacy group that was founded in 1994 by columnist Bill Kristol.
The group initiated the Project for A New American Century, led by Kristol and Robert Kagan, a former State Department official who now advises McCain's campaign.
It was a leading voice of neoconservative security policy and an advocate of using force to topple Saddam's and other anti-U.S. regimes. Its founding members included Vice President Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and other key Bush administration officials who pushed the Iraq invasion.
The committee, whose directors included Randy Scheunemann, now McCain's top foreign-policy adviser, was a key advocate for the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, which McCain co-sponsored. The act funneled millions of dollars in U.S. aid to Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress and other opposition groups, and made "regime change" the U.S. policy. (More here and here.)
Initially an opponent, McCain became a strong supporter of the 1996 U.S.-led intervention in Bosnia, although some conservatives and U.S. military commanders questioned the country's importance to U.S. security. He also backed NATO's 1999 intervention in Kosovo, lambasting the Clinton administration for a restrained bombing campaign against Serbia, and urging NATO to mount a ground invasion, as well.
Air strikes "needed to be, from the beginning, massive, strategic and sustained," McCain said in an April 1999 speech. "No infrastructure targets should have been off limits. And while we all grieve over civilian casualties as well as our own losses, they are unavoidable."
Responding to the 9/11 attacks, McCain called for unleashing the "full fury of American power" against al Qaida and other radical Islamic groups and urged the Bush administration to make civilian casualties a secondary consideration.
"We cannot allow the Taliban safe refuge among the civilian population," McCain wrote in The Wall Street Journal on Oct. 26, 2001, of the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan. "We must destroy them wherever they hide."
His willingness to tolerate civilian casualties has proven to be off the mark.
Thousands of civilian casualties in Afghanistan and Pakistan over the past seven years are now recognized as a key reason for the Taliban's resurgence, as popular outrage has brought the insurgents fresh support, recruits and propaganda windfalls.
McCain also argued against fighting terrorism with "half measures," even at the cost of destabilizing pro-U.S. regimes in the Middle East. He insisted that using massive force would convince Islamic extremists and ordinary Muslims that resistance was futile.
"We must change permanently the mindset of terrorists and those parts of Islamic populations" who did not believe that the United States was prepared to "wage a relentless, long term, and, at times, ruthless war," he wrote in the October 2001 Wall Street Journal column.
McCain also used the 9/11 attacks to justify the ouster of Saddam. On Oct. 29, 2001, he said on CNN that there was "very clear" evidence that Saddam had played a role in the 9/11 attacks. There was no such evidence. As soon as there's a government of "some kind of minimal viability" in Kabul, "the next step is Iraq," he said.
In January 2003, as U.S. forces were fighting in Afghanistan and massing to invade Iraq, McCain proposed a unilateral U.S. attack on North Korea if other nations failed to join the "aggressive, multilateral isolation of" the isolated Communist regime.
"Spare us the usual lectures about American unilateralism," McCain wrote in Kristol's magazine, the Weekly Standard. "We would prefer the company of North Korea's neighbors, but we would make do without it if we must."
McCain has since shifted his posture, and he now backs negotiations to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.
He's also shifted his position on Iran's defiance of U.N. demands to suspend its uranium enrichment program, which many experts believe is intended to make nuclear weapons.
After rejecting direct talks with Tehran, he now says that he'd hold them at the secretary of state level. He also advocates tougher international sanctions, including limiting sales of gasoline and other refined petroleum products to Tehran, a step that Bush and the European allies have ruled out as too harsh for ordinary Iranians.
McCain also wants to slap financial sanctions on Iran's central bank, which Bush and the European Union have resisted, and he's refused to rule out the use of force.
"There is only one thing worse than a military solution," he said in a December 2006 speech, "and that ... is a nuclear-armed Iran."



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Show AllIf liberals are amazed at the loud reactionary left wing conservative 2% here that prefer McCain gets into power instead of Obama, they can understand how Stalin, Pol Pot and Caescescu took over.
The Dems have right wing conservatives and progressives have left wing conservatives. They may be an undemocratic minority, but because they are the loudest, most opinionated and radical, they take over. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Liberals need to be rescued from left wing conservative "progressives".
Dem cool-aid drinkers like you are the reason we keep electing cruise missile liberals like Obama, who sounds just as interventionist as McCain. Why can't Democrats see reality?
All we've learned from the last several general presidential elections is that 3rd party candidates, except under instant runoff voting conditions, are little more than spoilers. As such, they are excluded from consideration.
Single-issue voters (especially in this regard) might have difficulty deciding between the two, but, when one examines the complete package, Obama offers a great deal more than McCain. Moreover, Democrats are far more open to instituting Instant Runoff Voting than Republicans.
Lies. Democrats are Republicans in disguise. Beautiful rhetoric, fascist actions. Democrats have aided and abetted each one of Bush's crimes in the last 8 years, stop apologizing for them. Start voting for the real progressive candidate.
As for 3rd Parties being spoilers, you're correct. They're spoilers of the farcical charade offered by Democrats and Republicans as real elections, and that's why they're hated and ostracized.
That bug up your ass has been gnawing at your brain. On social, environmental and economic issues there is no comparison - Republican policies are completely destructive. Obama's military posturing is exclusively for broader appeal. I'm certain he will willingly bow to the will of a more progressive Congress on ending the twin Clusterfucks.
Again, the ONLY way to restore relevence to third party candidates is through Instant Runoff Voting. Republicans surely don't want it, but Dems, once they realize how well IRV will serve them, will eventually support it.
Leaving Republicans in power will do nothing to address your complains.
Stop lying, I'm sure you'll tell us next that the bailout approved by Pelosi, Frank and Dodd is a great progressive accomplishment for the economy. And their caving in drilling's a great progressive accomplishment for the environment. And their passage of the FISA bills's a great progressive accomplishment for civil rights.
Democrats and their voters are pathetic.
The behavior of a few is not indicative of the group as a whole. Few were more pissed off than me when Pelosi stated "Impeachment is off the table." But your assertions are even more suspect:
You can claim that FISA was passed with the help of SOME Democrats, but 28 of 48 Democratic Senators opposed (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2248/show)
The same with the House: The Dems opposed 128 - 105; all but 1 of the Repugnantcans supported it.
(http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll437.xml)
With regard to the offshore drilling provision, you probably should read the contents of the entire bill HR1433 re: HR6899 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:3:./temp/~c110UOYPt6::) before giving your knee-jerk reaction.
You have yet to describe how to resolve the conflict. You're great at crabbing. How about proposing a solution.
Why don't you stop? Stop apologizing for Democrats.
Obama voted for the FISA bill, case closed.
The solution to the conflict is stop voting for Democrats and vote for the real progressive. Case closed.
Stop with the smoke-screen. Stop lying.
"The solution to the conflict is stop voting for Democrats and vote for the real progressive. Case closed"
Real Progressives? Where? The only opportunity for putting real progressives on the ballot is in the primaries. If the best progressive candidates didn't earn a position on the ballot, you insist on voting for the greater evil or contributing toward another losing cause? That's just stupid!
Getting little known progressives onto ballots takes a lot more than complaining while supporting neocons and no-names in general elections. Seek out progressive candidates who reflect your views before the primaries. Work for them. Either join the campaign directly or indirectly by conversing about your choice with friends, family and colleagues. Donate! Acquire lawn signs, bumper stickers and campaign pins.
In 2006, the Illinois gubernatorial campaign had a third party candidate that did express views similar to my own. Rich Whitney, the Green Party candidate, ran against Rod Blagojovich and Judy Barr Topinka. His shoestring budget couldn't afford to provide lawn signs or buttons, but his website provided the artwork so that industrious supporters could create their own. We did and in some counties, Whitney garnered 24% of the vote.
I also supported the candidate who opposed Democratic Party member Jill Morganthaler in Illinois' 6th Congressional District primary, Stan Jagla. On a budget of $2000 for his entire campaign, 5% that of Morganthaler's, Jagla spent most of it fighting legal challenges to our petitions, but we put $300 into ads on our local progressive talk radio station. We achieved 26% of the vote. The party took notice of our efforts and is now supporting his run for Circuit Court Clerk in heavily Republican DuPage County, IL.
The point of all this is get up off your lumpy, lazy ass! Stop whining about the dearth of acceptable candidates and do something about it! Support your preferred candidates early in the process when it matters instead of grousing about it when its too late! In words as applicable to war supporters as they are to these political battles:
SIGN UP or SHUT UP!
Storky, Madam Pelosi orchestrated a psych-ops attack against the American people whereby members of her party feeling the most pressure from their constituencies were allowed to vote against the Likud/AIPAC/PNAC imperatives while Pelosi assured enough Demok votes were available for passage to keep the mammon flowing into the party.
True! But remember that Pelosi is NOT representative of the entire party, just the few who rely on the old Democratic Party machine of the 1960's. They are has-beens and will soon become irrelevant and get squeezed out of office.
Liar, she's the party leader, what are you talking about, "not" the representative of the entire party? 98% of Dems are like Pelosi or worse.
That's right - everything I say is a lie. . . like that right there!
"Republican policies are completely destructive."
You mean the same Repug policies that the Bush-accomplice Dems have voted "yes" for repeatedly since 2000?
"Obama's military posturing is exclusively for broader appeal. I'm certain he will willingly bow to the will of a more progressive Congress on ending the twin Clusterfucks."
What drugs are you on? What more "progressive" congress? You are not "certain" of anything. You are simply engaging in the typical Dem kool-aid drinker wishful-thinking and false hope.
I bet you were one of the people who were jumping up and down the night the Dems became the majority in congress and you were chanting this long list of what the Dems and Pelosi were supposedly going to do. The Dem kool-aid drinkers were saying "Pelosi is not serious when she says impeachment is off the table. She's just saying that to fool the Republicans. She will start impeachment...You'll see."
Well, as we can see, NONE OF IT HAS HAPPENED. NONE of what the Dem kool-aid drinkers said their beloved Dems were going to do after becoming the majority has happened. It was all grandiose wishful-thinking and false hope.
As for Instant Runoff Voting, is not Instant Runoff Voting done on the same vote-flipping, easily-hackable and corrupt voting machines that the standard type of voting is done on?
Which elections did "third parties" spoil?
Didn't Gore win the popular vote in 2000?
When the uncounted Florida ballots were counted (after the Supreme Count gave Bush the Presidency) they found Gore won the electoral contest.
http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm
In 2004 Nader received 463,653 votes, or 0.4%.
I haven't heard anyone claiming Nader cost Kerry that election.
So, have the Democrats done anything to fight electronic voting fraud, voter purging, or the electoral college? Like they pledged to?
If you want to rant about third party spoilers, go yell at Perot.
Would you please list the great deal he offers?? His positions and his votes almost always mirror McCain's. He hasn't offered any huge leadership on any issues. I've seen the list of things he's co-sponsored, but he hasn't taken any risks (Obama) on anything that matters to me. But if he is substantially different, you owe it to us to tell us how so??
The ONLY people I see who have "spoiled" anything are the rotten and despicable D and R scum in congress and in the White House. No "third party" candidates required or demanded that the Ds and Rs vote "yes" over and over and over to give the Bush regime anything they've wanted since 2000.
No "third party" candidates demanded that the Bush-accomplice Dems help put Alito and Roberts on the Supreme Court.
Why can't Democrats see reality?
Because they don't want to. They are more comfortable in their Denial as long as the politician has a D behind his/her name. These voters have been programmed with D party line politics from an early age by their parents/guardians. Try deprogramming that crap! That programming is the same as the supreme being shit. It's impossible for most people to deprogramme this shit without professional help. And that is, in part, why nothing changes.
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Anyone who supports Barack Obama has to ask themselves the following questions.
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for wanting to raise the Pentagon budget?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for not supporting single-payer healthcare?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for voting for F.I.S.A?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting Joe Lieberman?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting the war in Iraq?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for wanting to escalate the war in Afghanistan?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for wanting to invade Pakistan?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for wanting to invade Iran?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for barely mentioning torture?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for not mentioning the poor and the working poor?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting the $850 billion Wall Street bailout?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for not mentioning corporate welfare -- corporate welfare averaging BEFORE the $850 billion bailout $125 billion per year.
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting companies like Wal-Mart's?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for taking millions of dollars from Corporate America?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting Henry Paulson, the former head of Goldman-Sachs; or Robert Gates, the current Secretary of Defense?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for voting for the Patriot Act as well as the reauthorization of the Patriot Act?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting the bankruptcy bill, a bill that punitively affects the average wage earner?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for supporting an increase in the US military presence throughout the world?
-- Why isn't Obama criticizing McCain for taking impeachment off the table?
The answer to ALL these questions is the same .. BECAUSE OBAMA IS DOING THE SAME THING!
What say you America ?????
http://www.votenader.org/index.html
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When are you Nader trolls going to post something new? Maybe when your candidate comes up with a way to be relevant? Otherwise knock off the spamming, we've all seen your drivel before.
A few months back when McCain came to Buffalo, where I was living, I participated in a protest against him.
This article reminds me why I protested. This man is scary.
That will only occur, ezeflyer, when left-leaning voters view the corporations as public enemy #1. I know many voters who, although they have never voted for a Republican, do not view corporations as the root of the fascist, neocon (call it what you want) trend that we have witnessed in the US.
Like McCain, Obama wants to escalate Afghanistan, bomb Pakistan, and listen to commanders on the ground in Iraq ("stay the course", like Bush). Who's the interventionist again? Who's the neocon? And how can you tell these two mobsters apart?
Blind fools.
Don’t be silly, tetti_tatti, it is easy to tell them apart. For one thing, Obama has said he may keep on Bush’s defence secretary, Gates. For another, Obama has reserved a place in his administration for Bush’s Secretary of State, Powell. So you see, McCain and Obama are worlds apart, why, just these two examples suggest that Obama has more in common with Bush than he does with McCain.
You forgot that Obama wants Henry M. Paulson, Jr. to stay as Secretary of Treasury.
From now on we should start calling *Republican* voters the Lesser Evilists.
I agree, it is easy to tell them apart.
Neocon Obama wears a flag lapel pin and Neocon McCain doesn't. (At least when I saw McCain the other night while flipping channels he didn't have a pin on).
While it is true that McCain is a worse neo-con, it is also true that Obama is also a neo-con - so perhaps we should work together and start electing actual progressives!!! And you know what? We can't do that if we continue to make excuses for politicians such as Obama.
Dennis Kucinich's platform was complete and immediate withdrawal from Iraq in 3 to 6 months. Just imagine every enlisted soldier and hired contractor out of Iraq by this coming July as ordered by President Kucinich. Every newly constructed permanent military base abandoned including the extreme-fortress embassy. The green zone a Ghost Town. Sounds too good to be true, huh? I met countless people who loved what Kucinich stood for during the primary campaign, but they all told me how unelectable he was. So now we have neocon-lite Obama. Remember Obama voted in favor of warrantless spying on Americans and granted the telecoms immunity for violating Our privacy.
How are "we" going to start electing actual progressives on easily-hackable and corrupt voting machines which flip votes? How is that going to happen or did someone forget about that little snag in the equation?
How are "we" going to start electing actual progressives when most (if not all) so-called "liberal" talk show hosts have their head up neocon Walk On Water Obama's ass just because he has a big D behind his name? If these talk show hosts were truly "progressive" (HA!) they would be supporting Nader/Gonzalez or maybe McKinney/Clemente and not this neocon Obama. The man is a FRAUD.
But all I hear from the so-called "progressive" talk show hosts is tow the D party line shit. The Dead Democratic Party has shit on us, slapped us up side the head and essentially told us "Fuk off, we don't give a fuk what any of you think" and STILL these Dem kool-aid drinkers continue to support them. It's incredible. Clearly, some people enjoy and thrive on dysfunctional relationships.
I've already voted for Nader/Gonzalez and Cindy Sheehan to replace Bush-accomplice Pelosi.
Don't forget McCain's chairmanship of the International Republican Institute.
John McCain and the International Republican Institute (IRI)
John McCain has been chairman of the International Republican Committee for over a decade. They are probably most well known for funding the "National Endowment for Democracy" (NED)
which is one of those Orwellian-named groups that does the exact opposite of what their name suggests. What these groups do is to help overthrow democracies worldwide. A good recent example is the coup(s) in Haiti which finally overthrew the democratically elected Jean-Bertrand Aristide government (the Lavalas political party) on February 29, 2004. Another example of the IRI/NED is the failed coup in Venezuela.
I'll focus on Haiti, just because the results have been worse. In Venezuela, the population rose up against the coup and reinstalled the person they have elected overwhelmingly over and over, Hugo Chavez. Say what you will about Chavez, but for the US to try to overthrow him is illegal. But in Haiti, the IRI succeeded and threw out a popularly elected government with the help of a rightwing pro-corporate organization called The Group of 184. One of the reasons that good information about what's happening in Haiti does not make it onto the TV is that the Group of 184 includes the main media provider in Haiti, and news agencies from the US often just re-print whatever press releases come from them.
The results of the coup have been horrible: massacres and starvation.
US policy toward Haiti is a good example of "Democrats are bad, Republicans are much worse" foreign policy. Sort of like, with Clinton you starve Iraq but with Bush you invade. With Clinton, there was this weird policy of letting Aristide live in the US after the 1st time he was overthrown, but not helping to re-install him, not helping to re-install the democratically elected government. But with John McCain taking over the IRI and Bush taking over the presidency, they were finally able to out the former priest Aristide, something they'd tried back when Bush 1 was president.
Article from July 16, 2004 - The Other Regime Change: Did the Bush Administration Allow a Network of Right-Wing Republicans to Foment a Violent Coup in Haiti?
Stan Goff led a Special Forces team in Haiti in 1994... what he saw there and what he learned about the history when he came back make him a good dissident source of information.
Incidentally, my "favorite" factoid about Haiti is that when Woodrow Wilson invaded it, he said that it was to keep US citizens safe from the Huns. In a long list of countries the US has invaded, Haiti ranks #1 in this hemisphere.
Well, I'm just confounded that anyone here would want McCain. Why in the world you favor him is beyond me. But, go ahead, give him your vote, I don't think it will help him.
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Again, nannie? You really are broken record.
Terror = State Of Intense Fear
Terrorist = One That Inspires Fear
Hypocrite = A person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
= A person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
How many hypocritical terrorists are harbored by the US?
Countless. Who is bringing them down to justice?
Karma will.
To believe that McKain has the capacity to run this nation even after the worst president ever before him equals utter delusion. But maybe that's the project for a new american century.
The Pursuit of Insanity.
May all Beings be blessed. Specifically the weak and ill minded.
"He has no overarching ideological vision that he would impose on the messy reality of the world"
Neocon Max Boot really belted out a whopper, referring to McKane. In fact, McKane and Boot share the same "overarching ideological vision" as signatories of the notoriously hyper-imperialistic PNAC. You can't get more friggin IMPOSING than PNAC, without pulling out the guns. To top it off, the "messy reality" Boot whines about is THANKS TO the neocons themselves and their comrades in arms. Mega-catastrophes follow PNAC around like lost puppies. Just look what happened to the WTC/Pentagon on 9/11.
If this blinkered war horse "hates war," then why does he ALWAYS support it?
Maverick: A fast talkin', gunslingin', gamblin' con-man with a thirst for cheap booze n' compliant young wimmen.
Great character for a movie, wrong characteristics for President
Why does no one in the media address McCain's odious past? Isn't there ANY integrity or feelings of need to get the truth out to the Lemmings?
Just the fact that the doughy senator is the spawn of a treasonous admiral that COVERED UP the murderous israeli attack on the USS Liberty should tell all needed to know for voting purposes. And as for the allegations that he signed over THREE DOZEN statements for Hanoi and lived most of his "captivity" in a hotel room.....?
The abandonement of his brothers in arms concerning V.A. benefits and voting against MIA and POW demmands for information.
He is, in short, a swine,....a neocon swine on TOP of everything else and the damn "journalists" and media outlets should pursue the TRUTH about all these charlatans and FORCE FEED it to the Lemmings if necessary!
Nowadays You got to turn to MTV or Rolling Stone to get the real info.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Read this and it becomes even more apparent that republicons are just a bunch of inbreds if they cheer up to this ludicrous guy. Pray that God forgives America for this 'hopeful' that even propagates that he can still win. Only with some more election rigging...
May all Beings be blessed. Specifically the weak and ill minded.
"Pray that God forgives America for this 'hopeful' that even propagates that he can still win."
Well, if there were a "God," SHE wouldn't have allowed either Neocon Walk on Water Obama or Neocon McCain to have been nominated in the first place or go into politics for that matter. So it seems to me, prayer will be a waste of time. It will accomplish as much as wishing and hoping.
As for your reference to "America" there are three: North, Central and South. I take it you were referring to the States, and not all of North America.
Thanks, I will keep that in mind the next time I hear any of Your politicians proclaim "God Bless America" that actually nobody knows which one it is. As for 'God', I am a Buddhist, as such I don't believe in he/she. Next time I will mark my post with an Irony placard...
May all Beings be blessed. Specifically the weak and ill minded.
McCain has had so many tenets it is hard to tell week to week what he is for this week! At one time I had a lot more respect for John McCain. That was way back in 2000 when he had a little crediability. In those days, I think he might have been a Maverick. As much as a Republican can be a Maverick and still stay in the party that is. But, he is like all Republican's he has become tainted with the Neocon stain. Which is required if he wants to win an election. And they also have to bow to the religious nuts in the party to get elected. Which brings the likes of Sarah Palin. So I don't bother with any of them these days! It isn't worth the effort!
McCain is a Maverick like Bush is a Cowboy.... Grade School fantasy.
The reason why Obama doesn't say all those things that the 3rd party candidates can say is because the 3rd party candidates know they don't have a chance to win in a winner take all two party system. The ideas are good and we are evolving towards that but they are too radical for the People and the system. After the election they will have a chance to organize so that they don't cancel out each others Votes.
Instant runoff voting would be great and I hope 3rd parties can move in and infiltrate the Dems and Republicans and push Obama to go for that needed change.
I see a big difference between a McCain and Obama and like any survivalist I will take the lesser evil any day!
Now Obama is being accused of everything...Terrorist Socialist, Commie even from some of our 3rd party folks who accuse everyone a liar but them that now Obama is the "greater" Evil.
Now that is a whooper if I ever heard one..
The world is moving to the left and Obama represents to me America's movement to the left, so I will vote for him here in Florida and then try to push him to make peace for the USA and the planet.
The rest of you will have to fend for yourselves!
The fourth estate is the fifth column. Nobody is let through the corporate media unless they're sufficiently neocon, Carter, Clinton, and Obama included.