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CIA Tactics Endorsed In Secret Memos
Waterboarding Got White House Nod
The Bush administration issued a pair of secret memos to the CIA in 2003 and 2004 that explicitly endorsed the agency's use of interrogation techniques such as waterboarding against al-Qaeda suspects -- documents prompted by worries among intelligence officials about a possible backlash if details of the program became public.
Demonstrators hold a mock waterboarding torture of a prisioner in Times Square in January 2008 to mark the sixth year anniversary of when the United States opened the camps at Guantanamo. The administration of US President George W. Bush authorized the CIA to waterboard Al-Qaeda suspects according to two secret memos issued in 2003 and 2004, The Washington Post reported Wednesday. (AFP/File/Timothy A. Clary) The classified memos, which have not been previously disclosed, were requested by then-CIA Director George J. Tenet more than a year after the start of the secret interrogations, according to four administration and intelligence officials familiar with the documents. Although Justice Department lawyers, beginning in 2002, had signed off on the agency's interrogation methods, senior CIA officials were troubled that White House policymakers had never endorsed the program in writing.
The memos were the first -- and, for years, the only -- tangible expressions of the administration's consent for the CIA's use of harsh measures to extract information from captured al-Qaeda leaders, the sources said. As early as the spring of 2002, several White House officials, including then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Vice President Cheney, were given individual briefings by Tenet and his deputies, the officials said. Rice, in a statement to congressional investigators last month, confirmed the briefings and acknowledged that the CIA director had pressed the White House for "policy approval."
The repeated requests for a paper trail reflected growing worries within the CIA that the administration might later distance itself from key decisions about the handling of captured al-Qaeda leaders, former intelligence officials said. The concerns grew more pronounced after the revelations of mistreatment of detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and further still as tensions grew between the administration and its intelligence advisers over the conduct of the Iraq war.
"It came up in the daily meetings. We heard it from our field officers," said a former senior intelligence official familiar with the events. "We were already worried that we" were going to be blamed.
A. John Radsan, a lawyer in the CIA general counsel's office until 2004, remembered the discussions but did not personally view the memos the agency received in response to its concerns. "The question was whether we had enough 'top cover,' " Radsan said.
Tenet first pressed the White House for written approval in June 2003, during a meeting with members of the National Security Council, including Rice, the officials said. Days later, he got what he wanted: a brief memo conveying the administration's approval for the CIA's interrogation methods, the officials said.
Administration officials confirmed the existence of the memos, but neither they nor former intelligence officers would describe their contents in detail because they remain classified. The sources all spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not cleared to discuss the events.
The second request from Tenet, in June 2004, reflected growing worries among agency officials who had just witnessed the public outcry over the Abu Ghraib scandal. Officials who held senior posts at the time also spoke of deteriorating relations between the CIA and the White House over the war in Iraq -- a rift that prompted some to believe that the agency needed even more explicit proof of the administration's support.
"The CIA by this time is using the word 'insurgency' to describe the Iraq conflict, so the White House is viewing the agency with suspicion," said a second former senior intelligence official.
As recently as last month, the administration had never publicly acknowledged that its policymakers knew about the specific techniques, such as waterboarding, that the agency used against high-ranking terrorism suspects. In her unprecedented account to lawmakers last month, Rice, now secretary of state, portrayed the White House as initially uneasy about a controversial CIA plan for interrogating top al-Qaeda suspects.
After learning about waterboarding and similar tactics in early 2002, several White House officials questioned whether such harsh measures were "effective and necessary . . . and lawful," Rice said. Her concerns led to an investigation by the Justice Department's criminal division into whether the techniques were legal.
But whatever misgivings existed that spring were apparently overcome. Former and current CIA officials say no such reservations were voiced in their presence.
In interviews, the officials recounted a series of private briefings about the program with members of the administration's security team, including Rice and Cheney, followed by more formal meetings before a larger group including then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft, then-White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales and then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. None of the officials recalled President Bush being present at any of the discussions.
Several of the key meetings have been previously described in news articles and books, but Rice last month became the first Cabinet-level official to publicly confirm the White House's awareness of the program in its earliest phases. In written responses to questions from the Senate Armed Services Committee, Rice said Tenet's description of the agency's interrogation methods prompted her to investigate further to see whether the program violated U.S. laws or international treaties, according to her written responses, dated Sept. 12 and released late last month.
"I asked that . . . Ashcroft personally advise the NSC principles whether the program was lawful," Rice wrote.
Current and former intelligence officials familiar with the briefings described Tenet as supportive of enhanced interrogation techniques, which the officials said were developed by CIA officers after the agency's first high-level captive, al-Qaeda operative Zayn al-Abidin Muhammed Hussein, better known as Abu Zubaida, refused to cooperate with interrogators.
"The CIA believed then, and now, that the program was useful and helped save lives," said a former senior intelligence official knowledgeable about the events. "But in the agency's view, it was like this: 'We don't want to continue unless you tell us in writing that it's not only legal but is the policy of the administration.' "
One administration official familiar with the meetings said the CIA made such a convincing case that no one questioned whether the methods were necessary to prevent further terrorist attacks.
"The CIA had the White House boxed in," said the official. "They were saying, 'It's the only way to get the information we needed, and -- by the way -- we think there's another attack coming up.' It left the principals in an extremely difficult position and put the decision-making on a very fast track."
But others who were present said Tenet seemed more interested in protecting his subordinates than in selling the administration on a policy that administration lawyers had already authorized.
"The suggestion that someone from CIA came in and browbeat everybody is ridiculous," said one former agency official familiar with the meeting. "The CIA understood that it was controversial and would be widely criticized if it became public," the official said of the interrogation program. "But given the tenor of the times and the belief that more attacks were coming, they felt they had to do what they could to stop the attack."
The CIA's anxiety was partly fueled by the lack of explicit presidential authorization for the interrogation program. A secret White House "memorandum of notification" signed by Bush on Sept. 15, 2001, gave the agency broad authority to wage war against al-Qaeda, including killing and capturing its members. But it did not spell out how captives should be handled during interrogation.
But by the time the CIA requested written approval of its policy, in June 2003, the population of its secret prisons had grown from one to nine, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged principal architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Three of the detainees had been subjected to waterboarding, which involves strapping a prisoner to a board, covering his face and pouring water over his nose and mouth to simulate drowning.
By the spring of 2004, the concerns among agency officials had multiplied, in part because of shifting views among administration lawyers about what acts might constitute torture, leading Tenet to ask a second time for written confirmation from the White House. This time the reaction was far more reserved, recalled two former intelligence officials.
"The Justice Department in particular was resistant," said one former intelligence official who participated in the discussions. "They said it doesn't need to be in writing."
Tenet and his deputies made their case in yet another briefing before the White House national security team in June 2004. It was to be one of the last such meetings for Tenet, who had already announced plans to step down as CIA director. Author Jane Mayer, who described the briefing in her recent book, "The Dark Side," said the graphic accounts of interrogation appeared to make some participants uncomfortable. "History will not judge us kindly," Mayer quoted Ashcroft as saying.
Participants in the meeting did not recall whether a vote was taken. Several weeks passed, and Tenet left the agency without receiving a formal response.
Finally, in mid-July, a memo was forwarded to the CIA reaffirming the administration's backing for the interrogation program. Tenet had acquired the statement of support he sought.
Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.
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147 Comments so far
Show AllWhile impeachment is off the table, democracy, civil liberties, and our constitution are all on the rack.
America
The last days of the republic
Are upon us. We would know it
If we could only see us from
Tomorrow.
Or could I be wrong?
Perhaps,
It is tomorrow already.
1/27/04
This is the clearest evidence yet that the Bush regime commited crimes against humanity.
So when are you going to DO something about it?
AND THE ELECTION DON'T COUNT!
Doesn't matter who wins, Obama or MCCain... they will let Bush walk.
This has to come from ground level.
Walk in peace.
Never too late for impeachment. What's Pelosi's excuse NOW?! Let impeachment begin and the lies come to an end!!
lolol Pelosi was not only aware of the torture in advance, but she was also in the meetings that approved its use. This is a perfect example of naive Americans expecting the fox to guard the hen house. The left must defeat Democrats if we want our country back.
As I said before, it's never too late for impeachment and JUSTICE. This would go a long way toward healing what is left of our country. PROSECUTION is NOT off the table. The following link is courtesy of ladybroadoak.blogspot.com.
http://ladybroadoak.blogspot.com/2008/10/committee-to-prosecute-bush-revs-up.html
call for executive order banning torture
http://www.nrcat.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=211&Itemid=160
We need to impeach these assholes, but we only have assholes who could do it, but wont, so.........
Democrats approved it, that alone should be a reason to vote for Nader, but I'm sure the cruise missile liberals voting for Obama like to masturbate to torture just as much as Bush and Cheney do, just read John Nichols' article in The Nation:
Pelosi and Torture
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=258258
I tell you, tetti, I do not know how many times U.S. voters can be fooled, but apparently we have yet to reach that particular threshhold. Obviously, we have a corrupt corporatocracy/kleptocracy beyond redemption. BUT, without the complicity of a bought and paid for media, none of this deception would be possible....including the lies of 9/11. When the "true left" creates their own "alternate stream media", a great battle will have been won. In the meantime, we'll vote our conscience and vote Nader!
.Amen.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
When does complicity come "off the table?"
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~~"It came up in the daily meetings. We heard it from our field officers," said a former senior intelligence official familiar with the events. "We were already worried that we" were going to be blamed.~~
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The Military KNEW it was inhumane and still DID IT. Shame...Shame...
what does it take to draw the line against orders from the Chief????
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This is news?
In Oct. 2008?!?
Also just in ... The brothers Wilbur and Orville Wright of Ohio managed to fly a heavier-than-air craft for more than 60 seconds from a beach in North Carolina, secret witness reports indicate.
"It lifted right off the ground and kept going, just like a seagull," the source said on condition of anonymity. "It flew right over my head before it landed down the beach a ways."
This "No sh!+, Sherlock" file drawer needs to be cleaned out a little more regularly.
Anybody who votes for Pelosi on Nov. 4 will have as much blood on their hands as those who voted for Dubya and those who vote for McClone.
...and those who voted for Nader.
and Democrats who voted for Bush...
.Six million of those in 2000......
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
That is too far. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Go to CNN.com an see their "Electoral poll map" and SEE how much of a lock Obama is.
Then come back here and apologize for letting fear control you and trying to use it to control the rest of us.
Another handful of rock salt rubbed into the gaping, festering throat wound inflicted upon Lady Justice by our cutthroat bipartisan Ruling Class!
Nietzsche
Just heard on public radio that the dick was hospitalized this morning for irregular heart rhythm. This Nazi has a heart? Anyway, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Maybe he thought, while lying on that hospital bed, about the innocent people being water boarded.
Karma is a bitch right dick?
This reminds me of Mark Twain's comment in "Roughing It": "... I made up my mind that if the auctioneer's brother's funeral took place while I was in the Territory I would postpone all other recreations and attend it."
I don't know if Deadeye Dick's interment will take place sooner or later, but I wonder if it will be covered in the Grand Media Style employed for reprobates like Nixon, Reagan, and Ford.
Not that I'd watch it, but I'm frankly curious as to whether the usual hordes of celebrity infotainwhores and will vie for play-by-play color interviews and hagiographical melodrama during the excruciatingly tedious real-time megahyped teevee coverage .
I can imagine a coast-to-coast funeral train with each stop absolutely deserted-- except for one, where Dick Whittington stands bowed, tears running down his scarred face.
This isn't news
There were 3 Al Qaida Biggies that were waterboarded...we've always known that
and Tenet the former CIA Chief said the information saved a lot of American Lives...if so...I support it
To paraphrase a Supreme Court Justice "The Bill of rights is not a Suicide Pact"
Please explain how not torturing these individuals, along with many others who were innocent of anything except defending their country against an invader, would have constituted national suicide?
I think you're confused...
No Iraqi Insurgents were Waterboarded...Just the Al Qaida Planners like Kalif Sheik Mohammad
and followup attack plans were thwarted...and American Lives were saved
Now if you are going to say...Oh Yeah...that we KNOW about...well I can't prove a negative (and neither can you) so theres no point in arguing it...
The difference between "us" and "them" is we don;t do it for fun like they do
but I sleep better at night knowing that if it comes down to it we CAN do it...and should
Allow me to be succinct...you're an asshole.
Thanks...I love you too
Kisses, sweetie.....Sure hope YOUR children never have to face torture.
You are one very sick puppy! Please go away and get a grip.
Welcome to AmeriKKKa!!!
We don't do it for fun?! What about the pics released showing American soldiers humiliating prisoners? Were those only planners?
No American lives have been saved from this nonsense. Torture does NOT predicate truthful tips.
Come back to reality Wolf.
you'll have to ask "General" (*Spits*) Janis Karpinski why her MP's did that to legitimate POW's...
Oh thats right...the gutless Clinton Quota appointee never left her tent the whole time she was in Iraq...
I'll make an except about responding to silliness. You spelled the Gen's name wrong. When you find it, go to DemocracyNow for her interview. www.democracynow.org She is against torture.
My Apologies to the ...General.. for spelling her name wrong...
My Comments regarding her incompetence and path of (social) promotion stand
.Your lies will not stand. In interviews and during court martial proceedings it was revealed that the treatment of those prisoners was ordered by CIA personnel and not military, and was supervised by Blackwater agents in some cases.
There is something very wrong with a political position that requires lies and distortions to defend. You should seek a mental health professional, or at the very least re-read the Constitution and discover why you are not a good citizen of this nation
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
.Wolfie, You simply cannot believe much of what you post here. The news about so many victims of torture cannot have escaped you. Thus you are given little in the way of respect.
Its a bitch when we get what we deserve ...
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
The Marine Corporal says anyone doign it is either "doing it for fun" or being ordered to do it. He never did it.
Your favorite Supreme Court Justice, Scalia, is misplaced on the US Supreme Court. He would have made a fine colleague of Tomas de Torquemada.
Well I would prefer that you are all here safe and sound to debate with me than dead in some Al Qaida Mass Murder...So I am unapologetically supportive of all thats had to be done to minimize the threat of radical Islam...I sleep like a baby
"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those that would harm us"-George Orwell
and I hope with all my heart that the plots uncovered were disrupted by well aimed bursts of H&K MP-5 fire delivered on time/on target into the cockroaches about to harm us all
Al Quaida mass murder plot?
What the hell would you call the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis perpetrated by the U.S.?
Um, Orwell did not intend his writing to be employed as an operations manual.
Your copy of Mein Kampf, however, should contain many passages that would adequately illustrate your points.
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Here's a better Orwell:
"And in the general hardening of outlook that set in ... practices which had been long abandoned ... -- imprisonment without trial, the use of war prisoners as slaves, public executions, torture to extract confessions, the use of hostages and the deportation of whole populations -- not only became common again, but were tolerated and even defended by people who considered themselves enlightened and progressive."
I have to say that torture is torture. I don't care who does it. And You know as well as I do that information obtained from torture is about as reliable as you get from the corner drugstore.
Being a POW isn't fun friends have told me, but its a lot worse when you are abused and tortured. I know I wouldn't care to be tested. I can't very well say bad things about the enemy torturing Americans if we do the same thing. We are what we say we are or we are what GWB and his destructive administration have shamed us with.
Is information obtained so far past the fact valuable? I doubt it. Lets not do this again. We are better than this bunch of draft dodgers I think.
.I keep hoping you are correct.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
If they were "called" POWs, they would be protected by the Geneva Conventins. Bush cleverly avoided this "moral hazard".
"the cockroaches about to harm us all" -- That would be the Bush administration, neocons, and fascists.
I am having a double post field day...'scuze Me
I almost feel sorry for you all...come January you won't be able to say its all Bush's fault...
I guess you'll have to demonize Sarah Palin although picking on a woman doesn't strike me as very becoming
No--it is both parties faults, Bush is just the worst president we have had SO FAR!
For your information, we don't have to demonize Sarah Palin because she did it to herself.
Do you know any babies and how they think?
The George Orwell quote you cited is fictitious.
The closest thing to it was in "notes on Nationalism" where he offered the observation: "For the pacifist type of a nationalist, the notion that those who abjure violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf is impossible to accept." In other words, he was suggesting the opposite of the "rough men" quote.
The "rough men" quote (sounds mildly homoerotic nowadays) used to be more often attributed to Winston Churchill, and it indeed sounds more like Churchill, who also said: "I do not understand this squeamishness about using poisoned gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised [Arab] tribes."
Huh? Wrong??? Fictitious? It is a quote in a work of fiction, but that doesn't mean the quote itself is fictitious.
The quote is found on page 253 of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four.
Goebbels sez, and sez it correctly which means you are wrong USAn. Sorry.