It is an astonishing kind of stupidity that sees us duped into paying for bottles of water - stuff that flows free out of taps
A half-litre bottle of water in your average sandwich chain, now costs 80p. That's around four times the price of oil. And it's not like you've got an oil tap in your own kitchen. If only there were some godforsaken country we could invade in the adorably misguided belief that it would bring the price of this stuff down.
And yet - perhaps because bottling water is precisely the sort of business that would entrance Dick Cheney - we've yet to alight on the killing fields that would get us out of this mess. Not that bottled water giants such as Nestlé and Coca-Cola would class it as a mess, what with the global industry being worth £30bn and rising. For the rest of us, I'm afraid it's time to swallow the bottled water lecture again. Come on: more of it is being sold than beer - you and I know that can't be right.
In her book Bottlemania: How Water Went on Sale and Why We Bought It, the investigative writer Elizabeth Royte covers it all: the nonsense about mineral water's "health benefits"; the struggles of the communities from where this stuff is pumped in its billions of gallons; the huge environmental damage; the debunked science behind the eight glasses a day recommendation; the incredibly rare health scares related to municipal water supplies that are hyped by persons unknown (who could they be?) and drive people to purchase yet more of this stuff - supplies of which are dwindling. She fears water wars. She wonders how unworkably inconvenient it is for people to refill a reusable bottle.
So given that tap water regularly wins in blind tastings, you have to marvel at the marketing genius that continues to sell it to us in ever more mind-boggling quantities. Consider bottled water's hold on women in the 18-35 age bracket, to whom it is most ruthlessly marketed. One of the more pathetic sights available to modern urbanites is that of some office worker lugging round her bottle of Evian in the manner of a supermodel. Was there not tap water where she set out from? Is there not tap water where she is going? She does not look like Gisele. She looks like Linus from Peanuts with his security blanket.
You know who needs drinks carried round at all times because they may require one in transit? Babies. Mewling, puking, lovably helpless - and in blissful ignorance about the concept of self-discipline. In short, they have no control over what happens at either end of their alimentary canal. Perhaps the marketing men could reposition adult nappies, so that the same misguided urbanites could cosset themselves in one of those, in case they need to "go" while walking between appointments.
Guaranteed to make you more angry than the infantilised urbanities, though, is Michael Mascha, author of Fine Waters: A Connoisseur's Guide to the World's Most Distinctive Bottled Waters (Emperor's New Clothes Press; price: your dignity). This book is so pretentious I initially assumed it had been written as a dare. Mascha lectures you about the "terroir" of different bottled waters, about their "mouthfeel", about their distinctive molecular structures. He sees sophistication as changing waters with each course and frets about the sorry state of stemware culture.
"Beyond the flavour considerations," he instructs his late-capitalist disciples, "you should also take intangible considerations like presentation and a water's story into account when choosing your bottled water. I look forward to the time," he continues, "when people can select not only the vodka for their martini, but also the ice."
I look forward to the time when those people are wiped out by a highly targeted plague. Arguably the most loathsome water he plugs is called Bling. I think it is described as a "couture water" - I can't be sure, the book went out of the window at that point - but the bottle is studded with Swarovski crystals and costs £20 for 750ml. Bling is one of those products the mere purchase of which should result in your voting rights being withdrawn in perpetuity. You have just spent £20 on a bottle of water: you no longer have the right to participate in decisions that may affect society's direction.
If you bang on endlessly that bottled water tastes better and that even filtered isn't as nice, you should take a good hard look at Mascha and his preposterous book, because if things carry on at the rate Royte is chronicling, he is the Spirit of Your Future.
It seems increasingly rich that those who laugh at Madonna for drinking her Kabbalah water, blessed by the faux-religion's rabbi, will cheerily fork out for another brand, blessed by some Big Water executive fibbing it's healthier than tap water. Similarly, those who bang on at dinner parties about Nestlé pushing powdered milk in the third world should stop serving Nestlé's brands of bottled water at said dinners. Poor benighted Africans, paying for something they could get for free in the misguided belief it's better for them ...
If this analogy is not sufficiently sledgehammer, they may care to consider that in the 1950s Nestlé pushed its bottled waters "to help lactating mothers and [provide] important minerals for infants". It has since modified its sell, producing in 2002 a catering trade manual called Pour on the Tips, in which waiters were advised they could make $100 more a month using a few simple water-pushing techniques.
This is what a conspiracy theory that actually stands up looks like. The entity we are obliged to call The Man really is fooling you. I'm sorry it's not blowing up the World Trade Centre, or lying about the Titanic sinking. But it's low level mostly because duping you doesn't need anything fancier. He can make you pay between 240 and 10,000 times more for something you already have on tap. Crack open a bottle of Bling and drown your sorrows: Lex Luthor doesn't even get out of bed for schmucks like you.
Marina Hyde is a Guardian columnist.
© 2008 The Guardian
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63 Comments so far
Show AllIt seems, if you want to deliver disease by the water supply, you've got to get the people to drink the water you're contaminating... If you're going to drink tap water, filter it twice and add 5 drops of iodine per gallon...
cd is msm.
backing up dubs_dingleberries:
I was pissing yellow for months regardless how much tap water I drank and I was drinking half a gallon a day for much of that. I noticed when tap water ice cubes melted they left behind floaties in the melt. I'm guessing the floaties were the freezer condensed fungus.
I switched to poland springs and 2 days later my piss was clear...
Thanks for the link agitkid, I wish more people would educate themselves about the effects of fluoridation.
Tap water in California, and many other states, is being poisoned with Fluoride.
http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/
Go figure. What makes you think tap water is safe? And I am sure that bottled water is not filtering out Fluoride, but it does often times involve reverse osmosis which does filter out a plethora of crap that tap water doesn't, not to mention that in many cities the dilapidated state of the plumbing delivers many toxins to the tap.
hemp4victory said:
"What if all our plastics including those bottles were made out of hemp instead of petroleum?"
Any container that biodegrades in a reasonably short time, or when exposed to the sun or some such organic stimulus would be better than plastics that last almost forever.
But I would frankly prefer my hemp bottle do be made with real MJ. The pause that reefreshes.
HAHA! I LIKE IT!
good points hemp is versatile plant with many uses, why not use it to make plastics, and growing something to smoke!
If only we could run our cars off it....
It is quite apparent that the author of the piece has never had the dubious "pleasure" of drinking Los Angeles tap water.
The USA aint lost...it's just been misplaced...the Constitution is in the midst of a Near Death Experience...and..WATER..is looking grim for the future..
Ask ANY rural people that you know..if you know any..and mean really..ACTUALLY rural..not "santa cruz mountains" (45 mnutes to San fran..) But say...Nooooorthern California..et al..
They will tell you..WATER IS GOING FAST!..Period!
In my lifetime, i have seen the water levels drop on Rivers without Dams...by 2/3....and creeks and springs that gav water for generations..ARE GONE...
And there is, surprisingly..a bottled water effect..for example..RIGHT HERE in my own BACK YARD...the "McLellan Mountain Spring Water"..yeah..some folks bought the property with the biggest spring...that comes from THE SAME DEEP AQUIFER and ..yup! TAPPED it..started a whole little enterprise..okay..good ol american closet industry...Iwould be for it..IF...they were not so fucking GREEDY..
See the problem is..that the water...is...not...THEIRS ALONE! and THIS..in my opinion is the REAL THREAT that 'Corporate Water' brings to the table..as some above have stated...they are TOO GREEDY to be trusted with a DEFINITELY DWINDLING RESOURCE!
The Mclellan folks...are taking..essentially what amounts to ALL the water..simple as that..they have the "Big Spring" but people and animals and rivers..(the Mad river and the Van Dusen river as well as the Eel River to some extent..) are ALL dependant on this HUGE underground aquifer..and these people are selling that water to..YOU..in "eight packs"..every time I go on the road..and go into a grocery store...an see the Mclellan Mountain logo..the Big Rock..Mclellan Mountain..a HUGE rock..that i look at from the window of my shack..IT PISSES ME OFF...that this ONE property owner would think...without even a shade of..REGARD..or..Concern..or...SHAME..that they CAn..simply by having access...take as much as they want for themselves...
I have often thought.."what would they do, if I was to tap my spring..and take as much a a could..and what if I bught up..say...EVERY piece of property that comes up for sale and TAP it TOO? What if i began to put a dent in their greed with my own? what would their response be?"
I dunno..i don't know if these people..who are very aggressive..will not meet with the locals to even discuss the reality that they could..in effect...drain te aquifer..already many folks higher up than I and I am at 2600'..(go ahead laugh it up..)while Mclellan witer is at the bottom of the canyon..already they have seen a decrease in water quality and presure in the springs on their property..so..it is pretty "coincidental" as the mclellan people like to put it..well..as they say in one line of work..
"once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thre times is ENEMY ACTION!"
Twas ever thus..
Corporate water..is another form of Corporate Fascism...would they buy ALL the springs? YOU bet your life they would! No hesitation at all..and that..is the problem..it is a fragile resource..and rare despite what some of you seem to think..VERY RARE..try going WITHOUT sometime...like if you get your water from a CREEK and the pelton wheel you use for power in the winter also is on the creek..AND THE CREEK AINT THERE NO MORE...FER SOME REASON...COINCIDENTALLY..
I use SO little water..and it angers me to see such WASTE of a resource that i must work for in every season of every year..creek, spring..problem...problems...
Oh yeah..by the way...OZONE filters..will filter ANYTHING...been drinking from the same creek as the local Fauna and never had a problem..ever..ozone filtration...why waste money on bottles..the EXTREME filtration of water can be done SO cheaply..it amazes me that ANYONE in America has to even THINK about the purity of their water if they have 4 feet of space under their house...counter...shit..ATTIC would probably work...if you had no choice..IN LINE FILTRATION FOLKS..Ozone, and other types..together..in line...and voila..the purest water..so pure in fact that the taste will require you get "used to it"..pure water tastes FUNNY at first...but ours get's tested once a year...and it is PURE...and who KNOWS where hat creek runs...DIG?
what a bunch of stupid fat gringos
\USA and itz 'sheeples' are lost
AndChomskyMakesThree,
How did you come up with AndChomskyMakesThree?
San Francisco bought thier own water, they bought it from the mountains that were once a part of Yosemite National Park. The story of water and who owns it always has a level of dishonesty
Hey wereinthistogether: the plastic island has grown to twice the size of the continental U.S.:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-worlds-rubbish-dump-a-garbage-tip-that-stretches-from-hawaii-to-japan-778016.html
I'm surprised this article didn't even touch on the environmental impact the empty plastic bottles impose.
crfazy zan A coke bottle - why you corporatist pig - string him UP
MAybe he has a real drinking problem with 40 OZ bottles?
da black anarch does not like white middleaged farmers from norther KY - he said so - threfore he is a racist. Anything he says is meant to offend and hurt the soul. HOw do I know? he hurt me, injured my soul and that is that. AMEN
Kucinich was my candidate but I will not write him in nor vote for Nader (as howie d urges)...why? Obama has the potential to begin the change we need and, Dear God, we cannot afford to have him lose to McCain.
I hope that Obama's life experience will inspire him to take on corporate greed (the Bullshit of the corporation as person).I realize that he is not as progressive as most of us would like but I think he has a humanity and integrity that we have not seen in the last 8 years and then some.If elected there is great promise that we the people will again have a chance to be heard.
I'm surprised that no one mentioned that Obama is going to protect us from the greedy water barons...wait...he's not, is he.
This Obama bashing was brought to you by Da' Black Anarch, Freedom and the letter 'Z'.
Cuz of a medical problem I carry a bottle of water: Tap water that travels in a reincarnated coke bottle! :P
This column seems a bit garbled, like it's trying to do too much, mushing water as resource with the pollution of plastic bottles, also mixing in corporate-driven marketing greed. . . . the writer mentions many leftie positions on a wide range of subjects but presents them, sorta kinda, as one focus.
This column is muddled and confusing.
And water politics and economics is muddled and confusing. I wish the writer had used her bully pulpit with more careful focus.
I live in N. California, in the San Francisco Bay Area. I don't own a car. Some days, I travel four hours on public transit (two hours into a meeting in the city, two hours home). During that time, I have no access to water. So I tote my own.
Occasionally, I find myself IN the city (the 'city' in these parts is San Francisco. . . . nobody considers Oakland or San Jose "THE CITY" around here!!!), and there are no functioning public water fountains and, hey, I'm thirsty and my own water bottle is empty and -once-in-a-blue-moon I buy a bottle of water.
Mostly, I go into Starbucks and ask for a glass of ice water. Starbucks triple-filters their water for consistent taste in their coffee and they are always willing to give glasses of water. Starbucks also sells bottles of water and most people don't seem to realize they can ask for a glass. If I am in the city and thirsty and see a Starbucks, I get the free, filtered water. Otherwise, I buy a bottle.
One commentator pointed out that almost all drinks sold in bottles are about ninety percent water. I wish this writer -- and all the lefties caterwauling about the new lefty trend of worrying about water -- would address the whole issue of bottled drinks. It's not just about the water.
It seems to me that quite a lot of folks in this country drink marketing. I drink almost nothing but water. I have one cup of coffee each morning. I typically drink one glass of skim milk daily cause I love milk. And then I drink water.
I have diabetes. since getting diagnosed about six years ago, I have stopped drinking anything but water, my one cup of coffee and my one glass of milk. Why? Because I started to read the nutritional labels on bottled drinks. Almost all bottled drinks are loaded with cheap, crappy carbohydrates like sugar and high fructose corn syrup.
I attended a conference for the past four days. It was full of left-leaning people who, I am sure, would all say that they care about nutrition, the environment, justice, equality, etc.
The organizers made an effort to use plastic eatingutensils made out of potatoes, which are 'recyclable'. We were asked to use the same paper coffee cup throughout each day. We were asked for sorta of meal refuse.
A nice, leftie, liberal crowd of good folk.
What were we served to drink? Cans of what most people assumed was fruit juice. Everyone took those fruit drinks and chugged them down, rejecting the Coca-cola and rejecting the bottled water. For some reason, people think drinking juice in a can is, what, better than drinking water in a can?
One good friend of mine mentioned that he loved the mango juice and had I tried it? I burst out that I hadn't looked at the label but I was sure the 'mango juice' was not pure fruit juice and that it was full of carbohydrates that would spike my blood sugar and make me sick.
Sure enough, he looked at the label. The first ingredient in the 'mango juice' was water, the second ingredient was 'high fructose corn syrup' and the third ingredient was 'sugar'. There were 48 carbohydrates per serving (two servings in the can). Then he and I looked at the Coca-Cola cans: 39 carbs per serving (two servings in the can).
All those careful liberals had been drinking the fruit juice, assuming it was the most healthy choice.
It worked out well for me. Since everyone else grabbed the healthy fruit juice, the very few bottles of cold, plain water were available for me. I am happy to drink tap water but on a hot day, cold water is so lovely.
Our culture is in such a mess. We are living under mountains of marketing spin. Our daily lives subtly shaped in infinite ways by the cancer of corporate greed which strives to suck out every penny of profit it can from people living their simply human lives.
This column, which whines about water in a confusing, disjointed way actually serves the corporate empire, if you ask me. This column adds to our confusion.
The 'problem' is much bigger than bottled water. Every time you drink something in a can or a bottle, be it wine or coffee or water, there is a cost to the earth's resources. This is a redistribution of wealth.
We as a culture are in so much trouble.
Who owns the water in America?
Lawns in arid climates - like So Cal - should be illegal, unless the grasses can live without the insane amount of irrigation and chemicals they mostly do require.
Let's get sane.............
The "good" water of Los Angeles, quite apart from the occasional dose of hexavalent chromium or percholorate of something - and a dash of raidiation from some old spill in Box Canyon, will kill your goldfish unless you treat it, thanks to our water purification process. And THEN, despite SIX votes against fluoride in California initiatives, we got fluoride anyway, which, while it may or may not prevent cavities (and it is in almost all toothpaste anyway) is proven to contribute to osteoporosis.
Perfectly safe. Perfectly save. Perfectly safe. Just keep saying that - they say positive thinking helps.
Is this really news?
There are surely more important things to worry about than the price of bottled water - you don't have to buy it to live!
True story. It hits the heart of a growing stupidy. However, when traveling in the Middle East, Asia, Central & South America, Parts of Africa and Europe, if tap water is available "Don't" drink it. Europe has been charging to use the restrooms for years, and last month I learned some South Americans countries are doing it too.
But back in the US, when I travel with friends or relatives they always pack a large cooler with mainly bottled water and ice, but some sodas and beer.
Meanwhile, in Florida we save 64oz. and larger fruit juice or other containers and fill them with tap water at the beginning of hurricane season rather than buying water.
The bottom line is, until recently a gallon of water costed more than a gallon of gasoline, but some rushed out to buy it.
In the '60s, a Public Health nurse spoke to a group of anti-fluoridation people. She said the reason behind putting fluoride in the water is because:
It's a by-product of making aluminum products, and there's no place else to put it because it's poison.
It can't be buried in the earth because of run-off considerations. It can't be dumped in the ocean(?) or in rivers.
The answer is to claim it's good for your bones and teeth...("it's for the children.")
At least a decade and a half after fluoridation, the dental vans pull up annually to our elementary schools with employees reporting horrible problems with children's teeth.
Whatever happened to the Public Health Service?
I have an excellent book called "Blue gold: The fight to Stop the corporate Theft of the World's Water" by Maude Barlow and Tony Clarke. I read it years ago wihen it was published (2002). The book was endorsed by Naomi Kline, Anita Roddick and Dr. Vandanna Shiva. The New Press.
DUST DEVIL/ALASKA MAID: Interesting postings.
MiMiCCS: There may be an abundance of water, but in many impoverished regions there is no accessibility. Further, although you dispute the EVIDENCE of global warming, when glacial melt is not what it used to be, the people living down those mountains are NOT getting the water they need. This is a problem growing in significance.
I think major desalination operations would be wise, and if the technology became cheaper (could solar power work the operating systems?) it could assist a great many regions that are otherwise going to soon find themselves on the receiving end of intermittent waters and/or droughts.
Thaddeus is on top of this one. My little personal note is just that. I am aware of literature regarding this problem. I.E. Nestle, etc.
As one commenter indicated how agriculture in Arizona was draining the Colorado. I wonder if it isn't residential lawns like here in So.Cal. But I do know that agriculture has grown enormously in Arizona. But remember, that is not the only industry that uses copious amounts of something so dear.
The city water where I live is rated fourth best in the country. You can definitely tell the difference between it and springwater in a blind tasting. I buy bottled Springwater (and not bottled tap water like Dasani) because it tastes better and is less suspect than that coming out of the tap.
As a worker in various industries, I have seen what gets poured down the drain. Those testing our water don't even know what contaminants to test for. While many in New York City where the water is the best waste their money on bottled water, many of us have better reasons. Now if only our public water quality was as big a priority as the development of new and terrible weapons, we could all enjoy our water.
Two books at Amazon.com give some facts on the subject:
Pandora's Poison: Chlorine, Health, and a New Environmental Strategy
by Joe Thornton
Hormonal Chaos: The Scientific and Social Origins of the Environmental Endocrine Hypothesis by Sheldon Krimsky
Tap water is safe the writes says. Maybe in Great Britain, but in the US, especially in Detroit, Michigan, I'm not so sure. I'll drink distilled water whenever I can:
1. Detroit draws its water from Lake St. Claire which is essentially an open sewage sink for about 3.5 million people, assorted boats and numerous ducks.
2. Adding relatively large amounts of chlorine to drinking water, like Detroit does, (the stuff burns your eyes and nose when the tap is run) is not necessarily a good idea. Chlorine is a poison and putting it in drinking water to kill the pathogens seems ok, except the byproducts of chlorine reduction (chlorine combines very readily with oxygen) build up in the ecosystem and in our bodies, causing (you knew this was coming) cancer.
Also, comments by readers about the abundance of water on this planet only show a lack of consciousness; millions of folks go daily with out fresh water to drink and suffer greatly because of that. Water, like every other resource on the planet, is subject to the marketing campaigns working in the temples of the god Mammon. A good deal of misinformation is therefor 'floating' around. Fresh drinking water is used to water crops in Arizona thus drawing down the Colorado Plateau Aquifer to dangerously low levels. The same is true elsewhere in the world, some group of elites decides 'free' drinking water can be piped somewhere else and there will be no shortages. Drinking water is only a small subset of the whole plane's reservoir of water.
Water is in short supply on this planet, especially so with high quality drinking water.
Tap water supplied by state and municipal entities is not necessarily safe merely because we are told it is so.
I would not bandy about your sources of good water if I were you, for there are actually those among our "superiors" who believe that not being chained to bottled water is cheating.
Bottled water is a $30 billion industry and rising? What most people don't think about when they buy bottled water is that they are enabling corporations to buy up more water rights. By the time they come to their senses, they may not have a choice but to buy water because most of the water will be privately owned.
and Bush says "the consumer is smart, he'll figure it out." Apparently not so.
And I do agree, I have long wondered how the younger generation can't seem to make it from house to car to event and then through the event without having that security blanket with them. I suspect it's not so they can sate their seemingly ever-needy thirst, but so they can show how hip they are. For me quitting smoking was as much about having something to do with my hands, and being able to strike poses as the nicotine addiction.
The writer of this Guardian article was paid to write an article acceptable to the editors. This is a timely article therefore, it was accepted.
I live in Southern California and I despise what passes as progress here. I am a native Californian, however. I/we run our tap water through a filtered container that removes most junk and the chlorine smell. The "water company," like they make it, publishes it's required notes about testing and everything is o.k. Well the filter takes out what they claim isn't there and the chlorine smell and taste.
I even drink the water out of the tap, and so have my dogs and my children. My dogs have all lived their expected life times, if not more. My children, well, I suspect their mother was abducted by aliens, so it can't be the water.
So I have a water bottle or 5 for filling for life beyond my house. I have been known to buy bottled water as a matter of convenience for an unusual trip to the desert, etc. But when you know that South Americans will riot in the streets because American corporations want to charge the pesinos for the rain water they collect and water in any other form like they do here, it causes you to think just maybe you and your fellow citizens are fucking idiots.
Personally, I have always equated being charged to drink water as being charged to breathe the atmosphere. Without air, just a few minutes. Without water, 3 days, maybe 7. Food? 20 days to find a job, beg or dumpster dive. In America you'll never starve, but you could die of thirst.
Unfiltered water in the subdivision where I live tastes awful. It is tested every year for safety, and recently had a slightly higher level of some radioactive element or another. Some might want to drink water with less minerals in it due to a high incidence of kidney stones (also known to be a problem in my area). Finally, bottled water is healthier than heavily sweetened and colored soda pop.
In the late '80's I played in a band for a Bottled Water convention (in the US) and though to myself, who would pay for something you get for free almost anywhere? That's show's you how much I know. But I can tell you, there were many times in Mexico, or China when I was glad to see a sealed bottle of water.
What kind of BS is this? Learning from water? Hey, can I buy some of that stuff you're smoking?
Here in our town, parents were recently advised not to use the municipal water supply to prepare baby formula for babies under a year old because the water is flouridated. So what are they supposed to do ? Buy bottled water for their babies and take the risk of the estrogenizing hormones which leach from the plastic into the water, or use the tap water and risk overflouridating their babies ?
The obvious thing to do is to stop flouridating the water, but the powers that be refuse to do so. The more enlightened parents go to one of the local springs and fill five-gallon jugs for drinking water.
The military has so contaminated the groundwater under their bases that it is unsafe for anyone to drink. So the military drinks bottled water at taxpayer expense.
Many villages do not have good water sources and they actually consume massive quantities of soda pop instead, airlifted in under regulations which require subsidized freight rates to the villages.
I actually see nothing wrong with a 'water bar', we would think nothing of people paying for an expensive bottle of wine, why not for water if they can afford it and want to do so ? Water DOES carry information, and i personally enjoy drinking bottled waters from various areas. (Especially since we sell spring water ourselves, not bottled but in bulk as many homes here do not have wells and are not on a city water system -- instead they use holding tanks), after a while when a person becomes accustomed to learning from water, it is really nice to drink waters from around the world.
The BEST water i have ever tasted, bar none, is the clear meltwater which runs down icy channels in a blue glacier on a hot summer's day. FULL of information about the past . . .
My dog drinks straight out of the toilet and he's none-the-worse for it.
I have read that bottled water that has sat on the shelf for a long time contains antimony! Antimony is a metalic element. What is it doing in the plastic?
Virtually every commercially sold drink, beer, water, colas, etc. are 90+ % water. This issue that targets the drink that uses no other ingredients is beyond stupid.
Any belief in the scarcity of water in this water rich planet is laughable. However, since social control is what makes the world goes round, the powers that be will do their best to make it scarce to control you, and the believers in the neo-malthusian religion will buy it. There are enormous quantities of water in Northern Canada. If need be, pipelines could be built that could bring the water to populated areas and to expand farming in Canada. Nuclear desalination plants using sea water piped from the sea could allow us to terraform our deserts. Antactica has 80% of the worlds fresh water locked up as ice. Break up some of the ice shelves and move the ice to Australia (or if Global warming can melt some of it we could ship it in water tankers that would be built to transport it).
Hey Daniel David - do you mean by liberal supreme court justices - Justice Souter. In case you don't know he is as pro corporation as the fascist Scalia. Perhaps we can look forward to more appointees like him once Obama is president. Vote Nader
Then of course there's the island in the north Pacific, just under the surface, made of these bottles. It's twice the size of Texas. Google "plastic island".
The bottles are actually worse than the stupidity.
The people lugging arounf their bottled tap water are the ones who believe that the Israelis are the victims and that the Palestinians are occupiers of Israeli territory.
I bring a plastic container to one of those supermarket machines that cleans the water... there's no question the plastic detritus of this little bottled water fashion is out of control BUT... it would also help (as in it takes 2 to tango) if industries were regulated in such a way that our lakes, rivers, streams and waterways were not chemical discharge centers, so much so that pesticide, herbicide, insecticide, and a body of pharmacological debris were let loose therein. INDUSTRY needs to be regulated, the EPA needs to get its balls back, and money can't be the god to which all governing officials bow down first and foremost. There is a public health aspect to the water situation.
jruebl, AndChomskyMakesThree:
You can do what I do, use a purification filter. I then fill my reusable water bottle if I need water to drink on the go. Got my water bottle on a closeout at a sporting goods store for $1. The water filter costs about $7, and filters for 2 months. It's hard to get any cheaper than that while drinking the best water available via purified tap water.
All tap water is not created equal. When I lived in New York, I would have never dreamed of wasting money on bottled water. However, in Southern California, where I live now, the water quality is AWFUL. I don't know anything at all about water quality in the UK, but I have a feeling that if it were anything like the water here in SoCal Marina Hyde would be singing a different tune.
Well, the Los Angeles County Water Municipality's webpage says that people with low immune systems should not drink the tap water.
This article is clap-trap because its underlying theme is:
the West is spoiled with bottled water while the poor sad Third World has no access to clean water.
Fuck it. I drink bottled water because I don't believe the tap water is safe.
"TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran's OPEC governor said world oil prices could reach as high as $500 per barrel in a few years' time if the US dollar falls further and political tension worsens."
Does this mean that the price of bottled tap water will rise?
...amusing as the author here is seething with anger!
...yeah, total dumbshits. Especially amusing are those old punters in the parking lots lugging 8-packs of 1.5 litre bottled water (e.g. VERY heavy) to their SUVs, in agony!!!
...it still amazes me how fucking stupid consumers are, how easily they are manipulated into buying senseless items like "bottled water". I just don't give a shit anymore...fuck 'em. Let them eat cake, buy iPods and iPottys--and buy 8-packs of 1.5 litre Mattoni bottled water!
ezeflyer July 26th, 2008 2:13 pm
I think people buy bottled water more because of convenience. You can carry a disposable bottle with you, drink it and dump it when empty.
A fair point. I'm guilty of it myself. Maybe its just unthinking. I'll try to be more careful.
hemp4victory said:
"What if all our plastics including those bottles were made out of hemp instead of petroleum?"
Any container that biodegrades in a reasonably short time, or when exposed to the sun or some such organic stimulus would be better than plastics that last almost forever.
But I would frankly prefer my hemp bottle do be made with real MJ. The pause that reefreshes.
I really hate to throw in a monkey wrench--
But when I've been out and about town for several hours on a hot day and stop into a convenience store to quench my thirst, bottled water is healthier than high fructose corn syrup or fatty milk.
I've told my kids: I'll buy water with artificial colorant, sugar, or anything in it, if you want it, but I will not buy plain water at any price. Why? I feel absolutely stupid buying water.
frank1569 asked: "Very old water? Are we really that f**king stupid?"
You betchum, Red Ryder.
P. T. Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute."
So, whether Pet Rocks, Bottled Water, or Bait-N-Switch Presidential Candidates, the scams will never end.
Well, when the sun burns out they will end.
Hysterical.
"Claridge's, a luxury hotel in London, actually has a water menu. Patrons can choose from 30 selections imported from all over the world.
For the most refined palette there is Fine artesian water from Japan at $30 a bottle and $40 a bottle, or Mahaolo from Hawaii, described on the menu as "rare deep sea water" that is "very old." And Just Born Spring Drops from India is apparently "light and not aggressive," at $42 per bottle."
Very old water? Are we really that f**king stupid?
What if all our plastics including those bottles were made out of hemp instead of petroleum? Ok, so hemp is renewable and like solar and wind you can't take it for granted. However, Cannabis relieves people of feeling excessively thirsty and that my friends makes a HUGE difference. At least you can't say that it's impossible to leave the oil alone.
I think people buy bottled water more because of convenience. You can carry a disposable bottle with you, drink it and dump it when empty.
A canteen or other reusable water container needs to be washed and carried around with you when empty, then re-filled with a trusted clean water source.
Too often convenience beats caring.
"I look forward to the time when those people are wiped out by a highly targeted plague."
rof...lmao
[Article would be too-phunny if not SO-'true'.]
well, the corporate scheming is sickening -- the sellout of public resources worse -- however, municpal tap water may be poisonous or nearly so in a vast number of locations -- heavy metals, fluoride treatment, toxic dumping, etc..
see 'alzheimer's' -- rise of other neuro disorders --
the invisible stuff can be harmful, be nice if the author would research
And we all know what 'EVIAN' (the original) spelled backwards is.
America (and some of the rest of the world, too) has grown itself a "marketing-over-substance" problem. The rise of bottled water is proof positive this has happened--a hoodoo literally UNTHINKABLE three generations ago.
(So, BTW, was the residential real estate bubble where granite countertops unfortunately trumped (for thousands and thousands of buyers, especially first timers) the need to actually READ the terms of the adjustable-rate mortgage.)
The only (ONLY) way to roll back the marketing steamroller is to elect liberals (especially Supreme Court judges, via the President) willing to put the rights and welfare of people over the "free speech rights" of non-people (corporations).
We have too much corporate-purchased marketing REPETITION in our culture. It sold us (incredibly) bottled water and much, much more. Our "founding fathers" never imagined millions of electronic repetitions of anything when they talked about "free speech". We need a President, a Congress, and Courts that can recognize and remedy this.
Only liberals will do it, and even they, once there, need proper prodding. Elect first, then DEMAND.
With little more than surfactant-sustained [soapy] surface this bubble aspect of economic 'mandate' invites an increasing multitude of sharp needled pin pricks as weilded by the writer.
No, they are all a delusion;
their works are nothing;
their images are empty wind.
Isaiah 41:29