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Van Jones's Resignation: Bad for the Country and Bad for Obama
I signed the same statement on 9/11 that Van Jones signed, and there was nothing immoderate about it. It didn't say what the Right claimed it said (and the mainstream media chimed in without investigation). I'll explain below.
Jones's resignation is bad for the country and for the Obama administration. It's bad for America when progressive views are an excuse to purge someone from the administration while extremist right-wing views of past administrations were always given a "pass."
Van Jones's forced resignation is a huge defeat for the forces of sanity and humanity, and represents a deep failure of the Obama-ites to understand the nature of the challenge they face from an increasingly fascistic Right wing.
Jones was the first African American environmentalist to have become a national figure (his book became a national bestseller), and was brought into the administration to help enlist minority communities in the struggle to save the environment from decades of abuse.
Right-wingers pounced on him
for a speech in which he allegedly called Right-wingers assholes,
though he used the same word to describe himself and the Left. But what
gave them a supposedly clinching argument was that he signed a
statement calling for an objective investigation of 9/11. Scroll down
to see the full text of what it really said -- not what the media
claimed.
The forced resignation of Van Jones demonstrates the lack of backbone of the Obama administration.
Jones was a rare progressive appointment among the wide array of Wall Street sycophants and inside-the-Beltway pragmatists who have misled Obama into a path that has caused him to lose his initial popularity and severely endanger his presidency.
The notion that Jones's past could have a serious impact on the future of health care reform defies all plausibility -- those who will oppose health care reform will do so just as strongly without Jones's presence in the White House as they would have had he remained. The message being given by the Obama administration is clear: if you on the Right critique us, we will pander to you and abandon our friends.
In conditions of expanding prosperity, this would create the possibility of a resurgence of McCarthyism throughout the society. In conditions of growing economic pain, this kind of mimicking of the worst behavior of the German middle-of-the-roaders during the Weimar Republic sets the stage for the possibility of a genuine home grown fascism in the U.S.
If, God forbid, that should happen, people will look back to the capitulations on health care, human rights, and many other policy areas of the Obama administration, but will give equal importance to the abandonment of Van Jones and the signal it gives to the Right.
As to how Jones could have signed the statement below, let me make clear that neither he nor I, who also signed the statement, signed something accusing Bush of being directly involved in 9/11. I did authorize my name to be used to call for an investigation of the claims of those who deny the official story of 9/11.
Conspiracy Theories and the "Truthers"
I am now and was then an agnostic about what actually happened to make 9/11 possible, but do agree with those who say that there are enough inconsistencies and problems with the official story to warrant an impartial investigation by people not connected to the government of the United States and not bound by political considerations. I think that such an investigation would be a great advantage to everyone.
I have often found myself surrounded by people obsessed with 9/11 and acting in ways that I would call the behavior of "nut cases" because they are so sure that they know not only what I agree with -- namely that the inconsistencies deserve further investigation -- but also what I disagree with, namely that there is a prima facie reason to believe that President Bush had concrete prior knowledge of an attack on the United States and for political reasons allowed it to happen. Frankly, I don't believe that one bit, but that is one of the reasons why I'd like to see an impartial investigation by people who have no political stake in the outcome of that investigation, and with the power to subpoena all relevant documents. Such an investigation could once and for all put these paranoid types to rest or at least silence them. So that is why I signed the call.
What the Right did, with the help of the 9/11 "truthers," was to distort the intention of at least some of us who were asked to sign the statement. The "truthers" published that statement with their own speculations of the role of Bush, and the way that it appears on their website makes it possible for someone to imagine that the signatories to the statement were all agreeing to their framing--and that is simply not true. Conversely, the Right used that deceptive form of publicity by the "truthers" to affirm something that Van Jones and others made clear we never intended to sign, namely the claim that Bush was knowingly involved. (One reason I don't believe Bush was part of 9/11: it was too well executed for that bungler to have been involved. Even Cheney seemed incapable of pulling off a serious military move, much less something that would have required the coordination and secrecy to make 9/11 happen, and then keep secret the involvement of others for the next eight years. Though it worked very much in favor of their militarist policies, they were far too incompetent to have made it happen.)
I was asked to sign a letter that I was told had four demands:
1. An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
2. Immediate investigation in congressional hearings.
3. Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
4. The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.
I did not authorize my name to be used for all the other stuff that I now see was included surrounding the letter, namely the sponsors of that 911truth.org, and would not have had I been aware that all that stuff was presented in ways that suggested that I agreed with it, and though I do recognize a few of the people I'd consider "nut cases" among the list of signatories, my guess is that most of those who signed were, like me, unaware of the context in which our names would appear.
Some time after signing that, I was asked to be part of a book of people questioning 9/11. In that book I said what I'm saying here -- that I am an agnostic on the question of what really happened, neither believing the official story nor the alternative stories that I've heard presented. However, in that article I made clear that I believe that the people pushing in that direction of trying to make this into a big issue were making a mistake, not because I knew that they were wrong, but because I don't think that progressives or spiritual progressives like myself should be wasting their time uncovering conspiracies.
My own experience with the FBI and other law enforcement groups during the anti-Vietnam-war movement period in the 1960s and 1970s leads me to believe that there are far more conspiracies than most of us would believe, but they are fundamentally irrelevant to what shapes American policies, and hence not worth spending much time on unless one's goal is to become a famous investigative reporter. The uncovering of Watergate, in my estimation, actually served to focus attention away from the structural problems in American politics and economics that generated American need to dominate much of the world, and instead into a focus on the specific criminal acts of Richard Nixon.
I would have been far more interested in seeing the war crimes actions of Dr. Kissinger brought to justice, and the military industrial complex which he represented and the FBI that engaged in illegal acts exposed by the Frank Church investigations into Co-Intelpro in 1994 and 95. So, I've urged these people to stop putting their energy into this focus on 9/11, which is, in my view, a waste of time and energy. Yet, for the good of the country, I would like to see some impartial investigation done if that were imaginable (it certainly won't be generated by the Obama administration or by the current Congress), to answer all the legitimate questions that have been raised and not yet answered.
My
guess is that they can be answered in ways that will disappoint those
who think that the whole thing was a conspiracy, because most of what
seems most questionable or implausible is based on the theory that
people normally act rationally, whereas my own experience as a
psychotherapist for several decades leads me to believe that what
seemed irrational and hence possibly intended for some other purpose
(for example, the way so many people ignored the warnings being given
to FBI and other intelligence agencies in the months before 9/11
warning about many of the aspects of 9/11) turn out to be just the
normal stupidity and lack of attention that one finds pervasive in so
many of human institutions and social practices, and not a reflection
of a conspiracy to win political advantage!!!
But this kind of complex answer doesn't fit into a sound byte, does it?
The bigger issue remains: how Obama responds to the assaults from the Right. The pattern he sets by allowing his assistants to force Jones to resign (or set by Jones himself in the unlikely case that he made the decision without such outside pressure) is one of capitulation -- and that will only guarantee yet more extreme assaults from the Right. Wilhelm Reich in the late 1920s analyzed the growth of fascism in Germany, and one of his important observations was that the fascists managed to intimidate people because the Left was not in the streets challenging them. Luckily, we are not yet at a point where the Right is scaring people in the streets of American cities, but they are doing so through the media. What is needed is a vigorous challenge in the media from liberals and progressives, and the obvious place from which that should be coming is the Obama administration. If, instead, they wimp out, as so many congressional Democrats have done for the past many years, the Right will be encouraged and tens of millions of decent Americans will become fearful and withdraw from public involvement, allowing a path to power for some of the most hate-oriented forces in American society. Historians may well look back at the Van Jones resignation as an important step in that process of shifting the society, so recently rejoicing at having gotten back on track toward progressive values, toward a renewed McCarthyism or worse.
Of course, I have lots of compassion for Obama and for Jones, because when they peer out into the society they don't hear enough voices speaking out on their behalf. Please read the September/October editorial I wrote on that topic! And I have compassion for many Americans on the Right who have been deeply misled both about the facts and about how to understand them by rightwing media like FOX, and by spineless liberal politicians and media who rarely provide Americans with an alternative context through which they can analyze their experiences and the news. But that compassion should not lead us to inaction, but rather to vigorous advocacy of a spiritual progressive perspective, recognizing that many Americans would actually be quite moved were they to hear such a perspective and see how that could be tied to specific programs to heal and transform our world.



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(One reason I don't believe Bush was part of 9/11: it was too well executed for that bungler to have been involved. Even Cheney seemed incapable of pulling off a serious military move, much less something that would have required the coordination and secrecy to make 9/11 happen, and then keep secret the involvement of others for the next eight years. Though it worked very much in favor of their militarist policies, they were far too incompetent to have made it happen.)UNQUOTE
Rather, Bush and his administration are quite able criminals.
Granted, it would have taken military assistance to bring down the towers - think Blackwater, KGB -- and recall that Cheney had his own private hit squad for assassinations.
Meanwhile, Obama found it necessary in one of his prior speeches to admonish Americans to drop notions of a 9/11 conspiracy which suggests that he recognizes this as an
explosive issue.
Finally, it's up to the public to seek truth re 9/11.
Since the days of the Church hearings revealing CIA crimes, there
hasn't been investigations which actually reveal anything,
except the intention to cover up the crimes.
If we want single payer heath care -- it's also up to us
to get it. The GOP calls out its thugs -- their "pro-life
murderers -- NRA gun nuts -- and their new anti-health care reform thugs.
But where are those who support single payer MEDICARE FOR ALL being called
out -- not by Unions, not by the Democratic Party, not by liberal women's
organizations. It's a one sided debate by thuggery.
The coup on JFK was a coup on a "people's" government.
If we want it back it's going to be a very serious battle
for it.
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
This administration doesn't just have a lack of backbone--it has a complete lack of credibility--you democrats have been had but you just can't admit it. My question to you is just what will it take to realize the truth? When GWB was waging war you called him a chicken-hawk because he was a deserting coward--this guy that you love never even went into the service for his country--now he thinks he can win his war--he will only loose our freedom and our entire way of life as we know it...
2nd thought--you already know how honest your congress is--it's the best one money could buy!
"Jones was a rare progressive appointment among the wide array of Wall Street sycophants and inside-the-Beltway pragmatists who have misled Obama into a path that has caused him to lose his initial popularity and severely endanger his presidency."
Obama promised change. Van Jones represents change...hope he keeps on writing and speaking.
I appreciate Michael Lerner's balanced viewpoints on the 9-11
suspicions.
I cannot imagine my rough-hewn New England forefathers who arrived in 1634 seeking religious liberty (for themselves, if not for others--Puritans), NOT calling Republicans assholes--anti-American, anti-worker, anti-female, anti-science, anti-human assholes.
sierra7
Covert politics/actions truly have enormous impact to the American people.....who, in most cases are entirely unaware of the actions of the "invisible" government. That that entity exists has been proven time an again.
Label it what you wish, conspiracy or crimes of omission/commission, they are still crimes against the American people.
Investigations into those crimes have been thwarted (conspiracy) time and again by the courts and judges that are on the fascist right......so that the details of those crimes will not "reveal state secrets."
That is how those kinds of actions affect our policies. And, more times than not in a very negative way.
We are not all naive, sir.
Considering the history of the Bush family -- especially Bush senior having headed the CIA and befriending the Saudi Royal family and the bin Laden's (which in any other profession would be seen as a conflict of interest) I find the lack of interest in an unbiased investigation of 9/11 to be mind boggling. On the other hand, I suppose anyone who values their own life, wouldn't touch that kind of an investigation with a ten foot pole.
I don't so much give the Bush's or Cheney/Rumsfeld credit for intelligence to pull off such a feat, but I give them their absolute due on greed, corruption, and self-interest damn the cost to others.
I signed that petition and I called Dennis Hastert's office in a rage when it looked as if Congress intended to not even allow a biased investigation to go forward.
I hope Van Jones pushes harder and shines all the more brilliantly outside the tentacles of the great disappointment of the Obama administration.
First of all I want to commend Michael Lerner and the rest of the staff at Tikkun for their thoughtful publication. For those of you searching for evidence that not all Jews are Zionist Xenophobes, Tikkun is a good place to start.
Having said that, I must disgree with the statement: "Van Jones's forced resignation is a huge defeat for the forces of sanity and humanity".
I don't really think Jones was forced out. I think he looked around after 8 months and realized that neither he nor any other person serious about meaningful reform would be able to accomplish much of anything serving the Beige Bush or the mostly pusilaminous pansies that make up the Democratic majority in Congress and the Senate.
Unlike Geithner and Summers who are only too happy to further line their bank accounts through the influence they can peddle or Eric Holder who is corruptibe in the name of being a "team player", Jones has values and objectives that were not open for compromise or negotiation.
His resignation is a signal to any other unfortunate souls working for President Marshmallow* that serious reformners are not welcome in the Obama administration. What they want are hot-dogging BS artists like Hillary (Clinton) Janet (Napolitano) and Katherine (Sebelius). Woo hooo!! Bring on the girlzzz!
* marshmallow= a sweet confection consisting mostly of nutritionless refined sugar which turns into a puddle of goo whenever a little heat is applied.
Poet
Your thought about Van Jones deciding his own fate seems more in line with his character. He has work to do and he would take matters into his own hands.
I agree. At the same time, I can also understand 'hoping' you might make a difference on your own. The glaring fact that Obama did not have Jone's back on this has the potential to awaken more people to the flim-flam man's true loyalties.
Reikiiflowing sez:
"The glaring fact that Obama did not have Jone's back on this has the potential to awaken more people to the flim-flam man's true loyalties."
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Thanks for the reminder of a great song from the late Laura Nyro that just gives truth to your usage of the term "flim-flam man":
Flim-Flam Man
Hands off the man, the flim-flam man.
His mind is up his sleeve, and his talk is make believe.
Oh lord, the man's a fraud, he's a flim flam man.
He's so cagey, he's a flim-flam man.
Hands off the man, flim flam man.
He's the one in the Trojan horse, making out like he's Santa Claus.
Oh lord, the man's a fraud, he's a flim-flam man.
He's a fox, he's a flim-flam man.
Everybody wants him, the people and the police
And all the pretty ladies disarm.
Oh yeah, the beautiful gent, you know he has hardly a cent.
He pays his monthly rent with daily charm.
Hands off the man, the flim flam man.
His mind is up his sleeve and his talk is make believe.
Oh lord, the man's a fraud, he's flim flam man.
He's so cagey, he's an artist.
He's a fox, he's a flim-flam man.
To hear Laura's remdition (and sing along, please, it'll put a smile on your face) go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0e9l9V5Lc
Poet
Half right.
Xenophobe? No.
Zionist? Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lerner_%28rabbi%29#Criticism_of_leftist_antisemitism
Criticism of leftist antisemitism
"For many years, Lerner has been an out-spoken critic of anti-Zionism and modern antisemitism that has arisen among some leftists. In 1992, he wrote The Socialism of Fools: Anti-Semitism on the Left, in which he described the manner in which the left often denies the existence of antisemitism; defended Zionism and distinguished legitimate criticism of the State of Israel from Israel-bashing and antisemitism; and suggested ways in which progressives can fight antisemitism on the Left.
In 2003, Lerner criticized the left-wing anti-war ANSWER Coalition for the antisemitism that he and others believe is reflected in the rhetoric at ANSWER-sponsored demonstrations. He later claimed that the ANSWER coalition — of which Lerner's Tikkun Community was a member — barred him from speaking at their rallies against the 2003 invasion of Iraq because of his criticism."
My use of the term Zionist referred to Lerner's opposition to various policies of the Israeli government--especially concerning occupied territories and the treatment of Palestinians.
Anti-Zionism does not equal Anti-Semitism anymore than opposing the Nazis meant opposing all things German. The former criticizes policies of the government of Israel, the latter criticizes all things Jewish: ethicity, religion, and culture.
Poet
"My use of the term Zionist referred to Lerner's opposition to various policies of the Israeli government--especially concerning occupied territories and the treatment of Palestinians."
Your use - is not what Zionism means.
"Anti-Zionism does not equal Anti-Semitism anymore than opposing the Nazis meant opposing all things German. The former criticizes policies of the government of Israel, the latter criticizes all things Jewish: ethicity, religion, and culture."
Right. What's your point? I never said "Anti-Zionism equals Anti-Semitism", I feel the opposite. But he is clearly a Zionist.
Perhaps you are confused by the definition of Zionism.
"Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890"
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/zionism.html
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The worst part about giving in, is the rabid right smells blood and the Democrats made the mistake of retreating in a run.
The dogs are in pursuit now, logic is out the window.
Michael Lerner states a good resonable case, the notion I take issue with is:
The message being given by the Obama administration is clear: if you on the Right critique us, we will pander to you and abandon our friends.
Yes, Van Jones is a "friend", but he is much more. He is a levelheaded, solid, hard working, effective person with a timely vision, when those qualities are sorely needed.
Each and every one of Rabbi Lerner's "beliefs" about 9-11 are only that... Beliefs...
The beauty of the Talmud is that Hebrew scholars have analyzed and dissected and argued about each and every word for thousands of years, presenting different interpretations and perspectives until reason and logic triumph over blind faith and wishful thinking... I would only hope that todays scholars would do the same with the events surrounding 9-11... But I am not holding my breath...
I doubt they will do an in-depth analysis into 9-11 because they are afraid of what it would reveal...
They don't want to know about the "dancing Israelis" that the FBI picked up that turned out to be Mossad agents... Nor do they want to know about the controlled demolition of the WTC complex... Nor do they want to know about the Saudi hijackers who are still alive, or how they were CIA assets being used as "Patsies" to get American sentiments to support the invasion and occupation of two countries and the demonization of Arabs and Islam... Nor do they want to think that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA operative in Afghanistan in the 80's, and the Al Qaeda network were CIA assets... Nor do they want to know about all of the Israeli-American dual citizens in positions of power in the Bush & Obama administrations, or how the Lobby has influenced US foreign policy over the years...
They don't want to know about the 39 Naval intelligence officers killed and their case files that were investigating the financial fraud in the pentagon to the tune of $$$ trillions that were destroyed when the missile hit the pentagon... They don't want to know about the thousands of FBI and SEC case files of ongoing investigations and litigations into corporate fraud (like Enron, etc) that were in the twin towers and destroyed during the controlled demolition... Nor the truck loads of gold and silver that were removed from the basement vaults prior to 9-11, or the $$$trillions of worthless securities certificates that were used to destabilize the Ruble and take down the Soviet economy in 1991, due to be payed back on 9-12-2001... These are all fantasies of psychologically imbalanced crazy people...
They don't want to know these things, and if they did, they don't want to speak publicly about them out of fear of reprisals, being branded a conspiracy theorist or worse, and losing their social status as a "spiritual progressive"...
Google & Read "Collateral Damage of 1 & 2" by EP Heidner and "the Power of Israel in the US" by James Petras to get an idea of what I am talking about...
16 Naval officers were killed at the Pentagon, not 39.
Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts.
Popular Mechanics
Associated Press Picture shortly after the plane impacted clearly shows wreckage from Flight 77 on the Pentagon's lawn — proof that a passenger plane, not a missile, hit the building.
I won't dispute the number of naval officers killed, for even one is one too many...
I don't trust the testimony of the CEO of a defense contractor any more than Chertoff's writing in Popular mechanics...
David Ray Griffen has debunked the debunkers, and the airplane parts look more like that of a Globalhawk drone than a Boeing 757...
I notice you didn't contest any of the other claims, perhaps you agree, perhaps you cannot refute them... I'd like to see you try...
First a missle, now a drone. By the way,
The Global Hawk was still under development at the time of 11 September 2001.
KCE Structural Engineers PC is not a defense contractor.
25 eye witness documented accounts of ordinary citizens who saw a passenger jet fly into the Pentagon.
Rabbi Lerner does not want to believe that Bush had anything to do with the events of 9/11/01. As Webster Tarpley points out in his book 9/11 Synthetic Terror, Bush was probably a patsy while Cheney in all likelihood was the one who had inside knowledge of what had happened on that day. What Rabbi Lerner should keep in mind is that it took Bush an astounding 441 days to finally get an investigation [such as it was], underway whereas after the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, the Challenger disaster and the killing of JFK, an investigation was launched not more than three weeks after those events had taken place. Rabbi Lerner should ask himself what Bush and Cheney were trying to hide with putting off that investigation for such a great length of time [and then compounding their error by appointing Henry Kissinger of a all people to run it]. Why did Bush not testify without Cheney by his side? Why did Bush and Cheney talk to the 9/11 Commission behind closed doors, without a transcript and not under oath? Rabbi Lerner should ask himself who was in the best position to pull off those attacks, a very tall bearded man living in a cave thousands of miles away in Afghanistan or those much closer to what had happened such as key members of the Bush administration as well as the military command structure of this country? Were they attempting to keep their complicity hidden?
Cover-up or inside job, take your pick.
Come to think of it, after Obama reversed his position on offshore drilling last year on the campaign trail, I'm surprised that Van Jones even chose to be part of the Obama administration and get abused and then thrown out !
Rabbi Lerner expresses appropriate alarm at the dismissal of Jones. Those of us who remember the McCarthy period recall that people similarly lost their jobs for signing a petition or being caught with "subersive" literature. Let's not pander to right wing fanatics who will do anything to bring Obama down.
The "post comment" button is like a crosswalk... You only need to press it once, then wait for the light to change...
Sioux Rose
G.M. While your comment was witty, you might cut him some slack. Mercury is retrograde, and I know my computer has been slow and acting strangely which is par for the course when Mercury enters one of these phases. I spoke about this on a TV show in L.A back in 2002 and a caller mentioned that at the L.A. airport when Mercury is retrograde signs are posted so that the air traffic control personnel double-check all their reads before directing planes to land! The little winged 'god' plays tricks with our minds and perception; plus it happens to be the trickster planet! It also "rules" all communication technology, so much of it will behave in an anomalous manner until the end of this month. This is NOT a good time to purchase a computer or auto or anything run on an electric current.
Thanks for the reminder...
I did the same thing on another thread... Pressing the button three times before it submitted...
I was sharing my comment based on my own experiences...
Sioux Rose
Listen, you linear, left-brain clod, that is WHAT the LA airport did in 2002, and I presume it is still a protocol. Your lack of imagination is a black hole that sucks everything inspired into it. Go away. You bore me.
shach, you have exposed the fundamental difference between the Van Jones case and the McCarthy era. No congressional committee has investigated Mr. Van Jones and no one will. If in the future you dip into history again make first sure that you know what you are talking about.
shach, you have exposed the fundamental difference between the Van Jones case and the McCarthy era. No congressional committee has investigated Mr. Van Jones and no one will. If in the future you dip into history again make first sure that you know what you are talking about.
Rabbi Lerner expresses appropriate alarm at the dismissal of Jones. Those of us who remember the McCarthy period recall that people similarly lost their jobs for signing a petition or being caught with "subersive" literature. Let's not pander to right wing fanatics who will do anything to bring Obama down.
Rabbi Lerner expresses appropriate alarm at the dismissal of Jones. Those of us who remember the McCarthy period recall that people similarly lost their jobs for signing a petition or being caught with "subersive" literature. Let's not pander to right wing fanatics who will do anything to bring Obama down.
Rabbi Lerner expresses appropriate alarm at the dismissal of Jones. Those of us who remember the McCarthy period recall that people similarly lost their jobs for signing a petition or being caught with "subersive" literature. Let's not pander to right wing fanatics who will do anything to bring Obama down.
Rabbi Lerner expresses appropriate alarm at the dismissal of Jones. Those of us who remember the McCarthy period recall that people similarly lost their jobs for signing a petition or being caught with "subersive" literature. Let's not pander to right wing fanatics who will do anything to bring Obama down.
Good article and many good comments here including those of oldgoat and Poet.
For some reason, the song "There's a Place for Us" comes to mind. What is the place for Van Jones in the future? It is probably a place for me too.
Joe
If anyone hasn't noticed, there has been a concerted effort on the part of the right to force removal of progressives and liberal grassroots groups from any positions where they might have an influence in decisions. The Van Jones forced resignation is but one example. The US Census cutting ties with ACORN, based a mere inuendo, is another.
And the Obama administration has willingly complied.
I am grateful to have read Rabbi Lerner's thoughts. I agree with everything he has said.
I have one area of disagreement. Rabbi Lerner says that the rising fascist right is not scaring people on the streets. I think they are scaring people on the streets. What else can you call showing up at town halls with loaded guns and shotguns, packing heat to listen to the president speak publicly?
And the right is rising, loudly, in the streets. The tea-baggers ahd a loud, angry Washington march just yesterday. Forces in the right are very intentionally seeding fear at public events, on the street.
I think the rising fascist movement will keep rising. Whites will not be the majority in USA fairly soon, stripping endless, unearned rank and privilege from white people. They are not going to lose their power gracefully. They intend to hang onto it, whatever it takes. I think things are going to get a whole lot scarier.
I am grateful to have read Rabbi Lerner's thoughts. I agree with everything he has said.
I have one area of disagreement. Rabbi Lerner says that the rising fascist right is not scaring people on the streets. I think they are scaring people on the streets. What else can you call showing up at town halls with loaded guns and shotguns, packing heat to listen to the president speak publicly?
And the right is rising, loudly, in the streets. The tea-baggers ahd a loud, angry Washington march just yesterday. Forces in the right are very intentionally seeding fear at public events, on the street.
I think the rising fascist movement will keep rising. Whites will not be the majority in USA fairly soon, stripping endless, unearned rank and privilege from white people. They are not going to lose their power gracefully. They intend to hang onto it, whatever it takes. I think things are going to get a whole lot scarier.
Saying that whites "are not going to lose their power gracefully." is a gross over generalization that ignores:
a. that many "whites" accepte and support racial equality
b. class issues - not all whites have power to lose. Many teabaggers fit that description; although many are also middle class.
c. This type of racist reaction has been around for decades and yet we still continue to move forward on issues of race.
Racism needs to be opposed but the teabaggers are really not a fearsome movement. If you want something to be afraid of, try researching the current attempts by rightist evangelicals to take over the officers corps of the US military. There may also be a similar conspiracy underway to dominate the upper levels of American police forces.
Now that's scary because the only way the radical right could really threaten the Obama's government would be through the collusion of the military and the police.
Saying that whites "are not going to lose their power gracefully." is a gross over generalization that ignores:
a. that many "whites" accepte and support racial equality
b. class issues - not all whites have power to lose. Many teabaggers fit that description; although many are also middle class.
c. This type of racist reaction has been around for decades and yet we still continue to move forward on issues of race.
Racism needs to be opposed but the teabaggers are really not a fearsome movement. If you want something to be afraid of, try researching the current attempts by rightist evangelicals to take over the officers corps of the US military. There may also be a similar conspiracy underway to dominate the upper levels of American police forces.
Now that's scary because the only way the radical right could really threaten the Obama's government would be through the collusion of the military and the police.
Van Jones is a visionary who understands how we can solve our economic and ecological crises at the same time. Let's put him back to work.
Join the call to draft Van Jones for governor of California:
http://bit.ly/DraftVanJonesCA
Regarding 9/11, I agree that it merits a new investigation, but the behavior of many 'truthers' has discredited their cause. Here's an idea - could we start a new movement called the "Reinvestigate 9/11" movement? I see the problem with "9/11 truth" as being that this vague term has become tied up with a lot of ideas that most people don't consider credible. The more straightforward name "Reinvestigate 9/11" zeroes in on a specific demand that many agree with. After all, a 2006 Zogby poll found that 45% of adult Americans support a new investigation of 9/11:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2502
Finally, we have to dispel the myth of the spineless Democrat. If they don't do what progressives want or expect them to do, it's because their agenda is different from ours. Simple as that. Attributing their failure to support progressive causes to psychological factors only leads us away from critical analysis of their actions. For a better way to predict the Democrats' actions, look at where their campaign money comes from.
Nice point at the end, GF. The Democrats on the Hill really do support their "constituents" - namely, their corporate sponsors. It's important to make that distinction.
-TIA
Government will just plod along accomplishing next to nothing or even moving backward because of the complacency of the people.
Of course the democrats and the president give in to the screaming, angry right. This is the tendency all over the US: when someone screams, someone else rushes around to quell the noise. The noise is everywhere, over everything, and people just can't take it any longer.
The right has been using this technique for years. It works because far too many people are gullible. And so the pattern of action has been established.
It's going to take far more than a credible opposing political force to change this setup, because at this time, trust among people in this nation has reached a very low level.
I heard someone say that people in government are like frogs in a well: limited vision and little ability to change their situation.
The levels of stress in the US are enormous. People are not calm, they're overtired, they don't eat properly and they work too much.
Given this situation, who can think clearly? People of fine intentions can write volumes about the way things ought to be, but when the entire nation is stressed, even the greatest ideas cannot take root.
That is why the nation is bogged down in wars overseas and wars over everything at home. Even these wealthy corporation people are hopelessly stressed: when all they think about is their own money and seek to have government do things their way, they're sowing the seeds of their own demise—as are these Republicans. Stress interferes with the ability to do long-range thinking: it's just fight or flee, the old fight-or-flight response. This is how the nation works right now.
But that can be changed.
The TM technique is likely the most effective stress-reducing program available.
It is worth examining. In school programs across the nation, the TM technique is transforming students and the outcome of their education. Over 600 studies document its effectiveness over the wide range of human life.
I cannot help but take this direction because the world has been as it is for a very long time. Only new knowledge will lift this boat from its troubled seas. And the knowledge of consciousness just may be that knowledge.
www.tm.org
Do people who are mourning Van Jones resignation actually agree with his views on "green capitalism"? If so, don't worry. Even with Van Jones gone, Walmart and BP will continue his legacy.
I would be for green socialism, if we had socialism.
Joe
I agree.
Because "green capitalism" is a sick joke.
Promoting "green jobs" during a "jobless recovery" is especially cruel.
Van Jones should have promoted "green socialism" instead.
The White House was built , hell the county was built, with blood sweat and tears...suffering!!....of people that were robbed of their life, separated from their families. There will, therefore, never be anything good that comes out of it.
"Do people who are mourning Van Jones resignation actually agree with his views on "green capitalism"? If so, don't worry. Even with Van Jones gone, Walmart and BP will continue his legacy."
That was actually my only real problem with him. He seemed to switch from being a proud socialist to a capitalist right quick once he got a cushy spot on Obama's corporate-friendly team.
I hate when radicals lose their teeth once they get a nice job, which gives credence to the canard that radicals are just bitter people who didn't "make it" because they weren't "good enough" or whatever.
You're not going to dismantle the system from within. Getting your foot in the door doesn't make you more "responsible" and "mature." It just makes you one of THEM, and when you rebel, THEY just kick your ass out.
Not that Van Jones didn't flirt with identity politics despite having ideas for change that were highly sound and socialist (no shame in that). He did say some things here and there that chafed me a tad regarding race, but again, he ditched all that once Obama Inc. hired him on didn't he?
Maybe, hopefully, Mr. Jones can do more good outside of the seductively corruptive Beltway. I think he can, and I think he will.
I have to say that there wasn't any big controversy here that led to Van Jones' resignation. I agree with Poet's contention below that maybe Jones was looking for a way to get out of an administration that just puts out rhetorical spins.
Obama's environmental positions on the campaign trail were far from green - things like "clean coal" and nuclear power. How can any environmentalist support those kinds of things?
So, let's not make a big deal over this incident. The Obama administration just doesn't have strong policies in place that would help protect the environment. If it did, the disappearance of a personality or two wouldn't make a difference. Also, be clear that the Obama administration isn't the slightest bit "progressive." It's bad that Obama didn't support Jones against scurrilous attacks, but why would he?
As for 911, we can complain all we want about being diverted by things like the melting temperature of steel and whether jet fuel can cause such structures to melt, etc., etc. While it's kind of interesting, I agree that it saps our political energies. But by all means, do check out the truthers claims. The "evidence" needs to be convincing at the trial level. So far, I understand the motive, but I haven't seen the proof.
These questions will never go away because of the criminal nature of the Bush administration, and the fact that the official investigation was hamstrung and limited.
The Bush administration committed many crimes, and Bush admitted to most of them. We've got the opposition party in power now and they won't investigate. In fact, the Obama administration is adopting the same criminal policies!
Don't be afraid of the teabaggers. They're zombies, but they disappear and aren't a genuine grassroots movement. Be afraid of what your government has become and the rights you've lost. The Repugs are awful, but the Dems don't represent us either.
-TIA
Well, if the Right keeps hitting the streets and the Left is writing irate comments on the net, nothing will change.
I am happy that at least Bill Maher sees it the way I do: Best comment re the question in the article about how the Democrats ought to react.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/new-rule-float-like-obama_b_284151.html
BTW, here in Europe we are all sharing this feeling right now that they are simply nuts over there across the Atlantic.
People actually demonstrating against universal health care...the same people who gladly footed the Iraq bill are now protesting against "government spending"...unbelievable!
With the myriads of lies that are being spread about health care in the US, I can't understand that nobody in otherwise litigation-happy America has sued the Limbaughs and Becks and Palins for libel and sued them for millions...no, this is not about freedom of speech! These people are copying Goebbels, as in "if you keep repeating a lie often enough, it will be perceived as the truth."
Stand up and be counted and fight them! But not just on the net!