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UN Recognition of a Palestinian State Receives Public Approval in Europe
Polls in France, UK and Germany show the majority of people back recognition of a Palestinian state by the UN
The majority of people in the UK, France and Germany want their governments to vote in favor of recognizing a Palestinian state if a resolution is brought before the United Nations in the next few weeks, according to an opinion poll.
Portraits of youths pasted on the West Bank barrier show the flags of countries backing the Palestinian bid for statehood. Photograph: Darren Whiteside/Reuters The three European countries are seen as crucial votes in the battle over the Palestinians' bid for statehood at the UN, which meets next week. All three are pressing for a return to peace negotiations as an alternative to pursuing the statehood strategy, but they have not declared their intentions if it comes to a UN vote.
In the UK, 59% of those polled said the government should vote in favor of a UN resolution recognizing a Palestinian state alongside Israel. In France and Germany, the figures were 69% and 71% respectively. Support for the Palestinians' right to have their own state, without reference to the UN vote, was even higher: 71% in the UK, 82% in France and 86% in Germany.
The poll was conducted by YouGov on behalf of Avaaz, a global campaigning organization that is conducting an online petition in support of a Palestinian state. It is planning to deliver more than 913,000 signatories backing what it describes as "this new opportunity for freedom" to the European parliament .
David Cameron must listen to the views of the public, said Ricken Patel of Avaaz. "The prime minister has a clear choice: stand with the British public and 120 other nations to support a Palestinian state and a new path to peace, or side with the US government, which continues to push for a failed status quo."
The Palestinians appear to be assured of a majority if a resolution is put before the UN general assembly, whose annual session begins in New York next week. However, full membership of the UN requires security council approval, which the US confirmed last week it would veto.
The Palestinians may then seek "observer state" status at the general assembly, which is less than full membership but an advance on their current "observer entity" status.
The US, which is anxious to avoid wielding its veto and potentially incurring the wrath of Arab countries, is pushing for a return to negotiations – a move also supported by the EU, which is keen to avoid a damaging split among its 27 countries.
European foreign ministers are meeting in Brussels on Monday to discuss a common position on Palestinian statehood. Britain and France have said they would prefer to see meaningful negotiations on the basis of the pre-1967 borders with agreed land swaps, but have hinted they may vote for enhanced status for the Palestinians without such a prospect.
Germany is thought to be opposed the Palestinian plan, but on Friday the chancellor, Angela Merkel, said: "I am not going to disclose today our voting intentions, whatever they may be." She added that Germany was wary of unilateral moves. "We are going to use the days that remain to perhaps achieve a few millimeters of movement," she said.
The UN secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon, backed the idea of a Palestinian state last week. "I support … the statehood of Palestinians, an independent, sovereign state of Palestine. It has been long overdue," he said in Canberra.
Israel acknowledges that it has almost certainly lost the battle for votes at the general assembly. Ron Prosor, its ambassador to the UN, said last week: "This is a diplomatic endeavor against all odds ... It is clear to me that we can't win the vote." Instead, Israel was concentrating on securing a "moral minority" of powerful countries, which it hopes will include the EU bloc.
• The Avaaz poll, carried out by YouGov in the UK and Germany, and Ifop in France, was conducted online, with 2,552 respondents in the UK, 1,017 in Germany and 1,011 in France.
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Show AllThe question, of course, is how many European nations will give into American and Israeli threats, and vote against Palestinian statehood (assuming Abbas doesn't back down entirely from the matter). I find it hard to imagine that any of these three toadies will vote in favor.
Well, some of them might go so far as to abstain on the vote rather than comply with the us... Depends on how much more the pols over there fear their own populations in comparison to what the lunatics in Wahshington threaten.
I doubt the populations of the three countries in question feel all that passionate about the matter -- majorities might support the Palestinians' statehood bid, but not enough to man the barricades for them.
I think you're probably right. Only a handful of the Europeans that DO support Palestine as a state will do anything about it. They care as do many others around the world, but most people vote based on their own local problems and the only way to get their governments to change is to convince them that the ruling party will lose if it doesn't vote for a Palestinian state. That is a really unlikely sell for France, Germany or the UK.
No reasonable person could be against this but of course you would never have this idea if you only watch or listen to the corrupt American media.
Well. I am with them 100%.
Vive Palestine!
It already does; thanks to the 2008 massacre, but thanks for trolling.
The "consequences" will be on both sides. The Israelis will no longer be able to carry out illegal pre-emptive invasions, assassinations, blockades, starvation campaigns, water restriction, home demolitions and child imprisonment. Maybe a Palestinian state is just what Israel needs to regain its humanity--if it ever had it in the first place.
What makes you think this? Isn't it as likely that they would feel emboldened to attack a "foreign country" that was attacking it? The world community won't react any differently to Isreal attacking a subjugated Palestine than they would a Palestinian state.
I am not saying it isn't a good idea, but I don't think it will effect the Israelis much either way.
Probably true as regards Americans, but you seem to be confusing the "world community" with the American community. Feelings are very different elsewhere and have, in the last 2-3 decades, moved further and further to the side of the Palestinians.
No. Europeans are not that different and most will not get off their fat asses to do anything. Bet you a dollar. Not enough will care to force any change in government.
Makes you wonder about people who post this kind of stuff they're probably beyond therapy so what hope have they except the hatred they spew out in such forums as this.
A bunch of mainly immigrants have stolen a country a gunpoint. Now they are stealing more of it daily. They have either expelled, subjugated or imprisoned the entire indigenous population. During WW2 armed opposition to the Nazi occupation was lauded, those conducting it were praised and supported as resistance fighters.
Isn't that exactly what these so-called "terrorists" really are - THE RESISTANCE - the legitimate resistance against an occupying power as distinct from the illegitimate occupying power!.
Get used to it "oldy", they'll win in the end, just as the RESISTANCE of France, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Poland, etc. did in 1945
Hasta la victoria siempre!!!!!
I think it is great that the majority of Common Dreams posters are for a Free Palestine and we are literally united here!
The article has no poll about USA citizens and I wouldn't doubt that it would be negative.
It would decrease the threat of war and terror everywhere since Israel used war and terror to get Israel recognized.
But maybe our majority is too conditioned by the media and accepts endless war now.
We'll See
I'm not sure anyone really does, actually. As I mentioned earlier, European leaders aren't much likely to care what Europeans think.
Good answer!
"Why does anybody CARE what Europe thinks?"
Perhaps because there are only five permanent members of the UN security council which have the power of veto. These countries are the USA, Russia (as successor to the USSR), UK, France and China. In the General Assembly, where every single country gets one vote, there are many more European countries than the single country of USA.
Most Americans don't know anything about Palestine because the U.S. corporate media refuse to carry most related stories. All Americans know about the Palestinians is that they shoot missiles into Israel and sometimes set off bombs to kill Israelis. Americans very rarely get any information from the corporate media that explains why the Palestinians want to change things in the Mideast. This is part of a sad and disturbing pattern that is getting worse as America becomes more fascist both at home and abroad. The U.S. media have carefully concealed from the public that the Obama administration plans to veto Palestinian statehood in the U.N. -- continuing the long pattern of siding with Israel on virtually everything. Surprise, surprise.
"The U.S. media have carefully concealed from the public that the Obama administration plans to veto Palestinian statehood in the U.N."
Really? I found it all over the news in the MSM for a couple weeks now. I found 586 articles from the week of Aug 29 - Sep 5 alone which stated there would probably be a veto. Which is before the announcement that we would positively veto a Palestinian state. Articles from the NYT, Rueters, Chicago Sun-Times, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN... I don't think the MSM is as lacking in info as you think it might be. At any rate, the veto is not and has not been a secret since forever.
The UN Partition Plan of 1947 resolution 181 created two states. One Arab and one Jewish and defined their borders. The two states were to come into existence no later than October 1948.
So why is the UN making such a big deal about recognizing a state the UN created?
I hope Obama doesn't embarrass me AGAIN.
I hate to be a spoilsport. After all, every people is entitled to its own nation. But Palestine will be born a failed state. Neither in the West Bank nor Gaza is there rule of law. I recently read that a West Bank bureaucrat admitted that the summary execution of a West Bank Palestinian -- allegedly for collaborating with Israel -- was an outrageous farce. The Palestinian Authority didn't dare challenge the real culprit, who has too much power to be punished. Instead the PA ordered its hit squad to kill some poor slob whose only crime was that he was powerless and was thus an easy mark and could be killed as an example to the rest.
Do we really want another Somalia in the UN?.
I don't understand your argument. While I'd be the first to agree that the Palestinians have a government -- or for that matter two governments -- of questionable legitimacy, this hardly means they don't deserve a recognized state. By your criteria we should probably expel most states from the UN, and probably starting with those whose chief executives claim the right to assassinate any of their own citizens whenever they deem it appropriate. That would, of course, include the United States of America.
Good point. Too often we accept the imperialist mentality that "those people" are not ready for self-rule. It is very deep in our psychology as it has been used against brown skinned people to justify theft and exploitation for hundreds of years by the white nations.
"the majority of people back recognition of a Palestinian state by the UN" - all except the goverments in Israel and USA. But those very few rule, through the US veto-power in the UN SC. Basteds.
In 1948 we recognized Israel as an independent state. Why would we deny the same recognition to a Palestinian state?
That's the real question isn't it?
The USA prefers to negitiate for another 40 years....because by then, Israel will have settled all the land and exterminated the Palistinians.
the vote in the UN for a palestinian statehood is expected to approve. and will show how the world community at large is dejecting the US stance. the expected US veto is another milestone in the animosity of its government against the arabs and will further expose their moderate rulers ineptness .
Israel is in violation of some 60 U.N. resolutions. The General Assembly should seek full military intervention to force them to conform to the U.N. mandates.
I think more importantly the IMF and the World Bank support Palestinian statehood. That may account for why Europe now supports it.
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