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Israeli Troops Kill 6 in West Bank, Gaza
NABLUS, West Bank - Israeli troops killed six Palestinians on Saturday in two separate operations, including a raid in the West Bank targeting members of president Mahmud Abbas' Fatah movement.
An Israeli soldier tells a Palestinian woman to move during a military incursion into a refugee camp in the occupied West Bank city of Nablus. Israeli troops killed six Palestinians on Saturday in two separate operations, including a raid in the West Bank targeting members of president Mahmud Abbas's Fatah movement. The incursion in the northern West Bank town of Nablus saw dozens of Israeli jeeps surround three houses in the historic Old City before troops barged in and shot three men, witnesses said.
The military said all three were militants who had killed an Israeli settler when they ambushed a car elsewhere in the West Bank on Thursday.
"Special forces killed three terrorists responsible for carrying out the shooting," the military said in a statement, adding that one of the men, Anan Subuh, 36, was armed.
"When he was killed, (Subuh) was armed with a handgun and hiding two M-16 assault rifles, an additional handgun, and ammunition," it said.
Family members said the troops entered without warning and killed the men in cold blood, insisting that none had resisted arrest or fired any shots.
Subuh was a member of Fatah's armed wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, but had been granted amnesty by Israel. The other two men were party activists, according to a Palestinian security official who asked not to be named.
A woman was wounded during the operation, according to Palestinian medics.
Another three Palestinians were meanwhile killed in the Gaza Strip as they approached the security fence separating the Hamas-ruled territory from Israel.
An Israeli military spokeswoman confirmed the Gaza strike, saying the men appeared to be trying to carry out an attack.
"Soldiers spotted the silhouettes of several men who were crawling towards the security fence and fired warning shots which were ignored," she said.
"An air force unit opened fire on them and then discovered evidence on the ground that proved they wanted to carry out a terrorist attack," she added.
According to medics and border guards of the Islamist Hamas movement, which controls Gaza, the three men were civilians scavenging for scrap metal near the security fence.
The uptick in violence in the West Bank comes after more than two years of relative calm during which Palestinian security forces loyal to Abbas have restored law and order in several former militant strongholds.
Nablus was a major militant bastion during the 2000 intifada, or uprising, but has more recently been held up as a model of calm and proof of the Palestinian Authority's commitment to the peace process with Israel.
Israel has in turn scaled back operations in urban centres and lifted some of its hundreds of checkpoints and roadblocks to allow for greater freedom of movement, contributing to increased economic development.
Gaza, which Hamas seized from Abbas' forces in June 2007, has also been relatively calm since a January 18 ceasefire ended a massive 22-day Israeli offensive aimed at halting Palestinian rocket attacks.
Some 1,400 Palestinian and 13 Israelis were killed and entire neighbourhoods were flattened in what was the deadliest Israeli offensive ever launched on the territory.
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Show AllIt is beginning to look a lot like Christmas, everywhere we go...look at Gaza again, like Gaza last year, with candy canes and Santa far and near.
Christmas in Gaza? That's when Christians get persecuted extra hard by the death-loving Islamic rulers! Hurrah!
Historically the jews have treated christians to more massacres than have the Muslims
historically it has been christians who have massacred jews...in fact, when the crusaders took jerusalem, they slaughtered all the jews and the muslims together, when jerusalem was retaken by saladin, all were spared, including christians and even the crusaders... and now we have jews, by the means of the state calling itself "israel' serving those same /murdering and destroying christian/western powers, particularly the u.s.....mine, mine i want mine. it's mine..slobbering over what they have stolen from the palestinians...
the zionist rats crawl out of their holes, baring their broken and bloody teeth...
"'When he was killed, (Subuh) was armed with a handgun and hiding two M-16 assault rifles, an additional handgun, and ammunition,' it said.
"Family members said the troops entered without warning and killed the men in cold blood, insisting that none had resisted arrest or fired any shots."
Given the IDF's horrendous record of false reporting, it's not too hard to figure out who's telling the truth in this case.
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I would guess the handgun was a "throw down". A weapon security forces plant when the kill unarmed citizens.
The Nazis called anyone who resisted their occupations , a terrorist.
Yes, and Arabs never lie. Read the Goldstone report. It's all 100% true.
The truth shall conquer all.
All the world accepts it but zionist israel and zionist usa.
You mean you've read it? I am totally amazed, DaMiddleRoad! Or could it be that you are telling us a little white lie?
As you are no doubt aware Goldstone is a South African Zionist.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer&cid=1251804583376
and it was at his insistence that the report included the activities of Hamas as well as Israel.
I do encourage you to read it though.
Goldstone is a Zionist in the lightest sense of the word. Calling him a Zionist is like calling you a human rights activist. In some small technical way, yes, it's true, but only in a small and misleading sense.
The wife of one of the Palestinians murdered in cold blood was shot in the foot by the Israelis - I guess she was a threat to the brave IDF boys as well.
That's a shocking thing to write! I'm sure it's just a matter of some worthy Israeli citizen needing a toe transplant.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Given the IDF's horrendous record of false reporting, it's not too hard to figure out who's telling the truth in this case.
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Really? In your distorted view of world, may be. IMHO the Israeli commandos are telling the truth in this case.
v. purto -
Perhaps you might wish to provide one example of a truthful IDF statement concerning the Palestinians that was made in the recent past.
The examples of untruthful statements are boundless.
Really? In your distorted view of world, may be. IMHO the Israeli commandos are telling the truth in this case.
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Israeli "commandos"? That's the kind of Orwellian speak that's used now days to describe war criminals and cold blooded murderers?
I guess, if Al-Qaeda wanted to have the same legitimacy and support that the terrorist state of Israel has, they could wear some uniform and blackmail a superpower into giving them weapons, submarines, helicopters and fighter jets and then whenever they go on a killing spree they can just proclaim "It was in self defense! We are the most moral commandos in the world". And all will be well, because they have ranks and uniforms and a chain of command and their organization has the backing of a superpower at the UN and by extension the backing of the UN. So, they are completely legitimate in their terrori.....errr defense.
It's becoming tougher and tougher to refrain from making comparisons between Israel and the Gstapo, the SS, the Nazis etc.
Basically, Israel is trying very hard to provoke a violent uprising among the Palestinians, in an attempt to unleash another murderous campaign on civilians.
Getting tired of reading bs like this. The Palestinians were murdered. The settler was probably offed by another settler, what police investigation was done?
Last I heard before this revisionist clap trap Hamas was elected to their positions of civic responsibility aand it is Abbas which is the stooge of CIA and zionists.
Please continue the boycott of all things that are products of "Israel" also double check anything originating in the West Bank.
Every little bit can help, it's mighty cold in a bombed out house in Gaza this time of year.
down with the zionists!
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Hey White Rose,
I haven't seen your posts in quite a while. Good to read you again.
And I will. McDucks FatFood and BigBucks Coffie are at the top of my Boycott list.
Happy Holidays,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Among the many lies in this piece:
"Gaza, which Hamas seized from Abbas' forces in June 2007..."
Come again?
Let me give a full, proper translation: "After the US and Israel, under Elliot 'Iran-Contra' Abrams' brilliant plan, armed Abbas's Fatah and goaded them into attacking the legitimately elected Hamas, which the people voted into power after decades of frustration with the corrupt and quisling Fatah party, sectarian fighting led to chaos in Gaza that was ultimately settled when Hamas regained by force the power that they had squarely, honestly, and peacefully won by the ballot box."
It's hard to get any holiday rest with all the work these lying scribes force us to do...
Outstanding, clovis. You nailed it.
Excellent, Clovis.
Israel is clearly the most evil and cruel nation ever to inhabit the planet. They certainly have had ample opportunity to raise the standard of living in Palestine, but have chosen to only help themselves. The Jews have a stranglehold on American politics, and have can do anything they want, except to have the respect of most of the world. Might makes right for them. So many Jews have make significant contributions to humanity and yet Israel is downright disgusting.
I don't know about that, I'd say they are in second place to the the nation they are trying to emulate - the United States.
Actually it is the US emulating the iSraelis, not the other way around. Hence the US of A is really the US of I. With Rahm Emanuel, the son of a terrorist and an ex-IDF in the the WH, as the president and Joe LIEberman the vice president.
Ah!, the Nazis wrote the playbook, anyone may read it.
And you have a stranglehold on bigotry. Congratulations.
And you have a stranglehold on fcking idiocy
Gee, at first I thought, "A crackdown on the West Bank. It's about time!" I mean, how long are you going to allow this unacceptable behavior; desecration of mosques, illegal demolition and seizure of people's homes, attacks against helpless civilians? Then I read the piece. Imagine my surprise! They went after the victims. Talk to an Israel supporter and they'll cite the long Jewish traditions of tolerance, respect for law, compassion... when does the nation of Israel ever manifest these traditions?
Four Blackwater agents wearing Rahm Emmanuel campaign buttons stormed into my neighbors house and shot the whole family.
They were suspected of illegally taping into the potable water supply prior to obtaining clean water insurance.
Oh, I forgot, the above is tommorrows news.
If we do not fight them there we will have to ( I think we already do) fight them here.
israelis must need to make room for a new arms shipment from Obomber.
Oh no! Not silhouettes on the border! Israel's "right to defend itself" against silhouettes and other shady threats is tantamount to international sanctioning of murder wherever and whenever Israel wants with no accountability. The internal IDF investigation into the matter will exonerate the murderers as indisputable evidence of a terrorist plot is uncovered no doubt. Can a state without a conscience be a state with a future?
Correction:
Not just silhouettes, but silhouettes crawling on the ground - those are the especially dangerous kind.
No risk too small to addresss.
BOYCOTT, DIVEST AND SANCTION THE TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL! THIS IS A MORAL IMPERATIVE FOR ANY HUMAN BEING WITH A FUNCTIONING CONSCIENCE!! It is the most incredible, pathetic and ultimately tragic irony that the people who were once so unjustly treated by the Nazi's have now taken up these same unjust, inhumane practices and are perpetrating these same 'evil' practices on the Palestinians!!!
From a Canadian
It is not enough to boycott Israel. There are two evil forces at work here---Israel and the United States. If we did not fund Israel billions of dollars year after year, Israel would not have the armaments to kill the Palestinians. If Israel did not get funding from the United States the Jewish settlements could not be built on Palestinian land---nor would the roads, electricity and the separation walls be built. We, the American people, are paying for this.
We are also supporting endless military attacks on sovereign nations all over the world, and have been doing this for decades. We, the people, are also giving the banksters nice holiday bonuses. I don't want thses things to go on and and I am quite sure that the majority of the American people would prefer our tax funds to be used to take care of ourselves and protect the eco systems of the earth.
THe reason all these things are being done by our elected officials in Washington D.C. is because those officials are corrupt. THey are not acting in the interests of we, the people, but instead for those top 1% that Bush claimed as his base. New administration but no change, and I am running out of hope. We must change our government. We must toss out the corrupt who heed the bribers and not the will of the people. If your representatives in Washington voted your tax funds to go to Israel, the ongoing wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Yemen---and they voted for the bankster bailout---and they did not vote for Medicare for all, Single Payer---you must not vote for them again. Maybe Bush can say, "Fooled me once, fool me again" ---but let us say, "We get it. We been had and we are going to kick the corrupt out of Congress."
There is no doubt that Israel is a client state of the United States, though sometimes it seems like the tail is wagging the dog.
Yes! Collectively punish them!
Oh, wait...
Good comments here ...
Like you, I am sick and tired of having to read the crap about how "Hamas seized power in 2007" when in fact Hamas was democratically elected in 2006 ...
The whole sordid story (of USrael interference) can be read here:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804
(the hypocritical EU reacted with an embargo to punish the Palestinians for voting the wrong way while Israel gets "preferred trade partner status" and subsidized submarines from Germany .. so much for “European values” ... )
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14448...)
"An Israeli military spokeswoman confirmed the Gaza strike, saying the men appeared to be trying to carry out an attack."
Welcome to the "only democracy in the Middle East" which reserves the right to preventively murder any Arab person (even in their homes) for what "they (had) appeared to be trying to do" ...
Hey, it’s ok, is it not, in these times of “global terror” to shoot anybody on the basis of what he might have been planning ...? Resistance to an illegal and cruel occupation is not a crime of course, but who cares?
"Soldiers spotted the silhouettes of several men who were crawling towards the security fence and fired warning shots which were ignored," she said.”
There is NO “security fence” only an 8m high concrete wall which illegally annexes Palestinian land (as it does not follow the Green line) and further dissects the West Bank into isolated bantustans, making it impossible to have a viable “Palestinian state” (watch the excellent video below (historical overview of the farcial “peace process” and weep ....)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13749.htm
“An air force unit opened fire on them and then discovered evidence on the ground that proved they wanted to carry out a terrorist attack," she added.
Again the “kill first, then conveniently discover evidence for an intended terrorist attack” presentation – what a shame that this kind of “churnalism” is all we get from the mainstream press ...
Even if it were true that someone had planned an attack, there is no justification whatsoever to kill them “preventively” (or is it pre-emptively?) in a democracy deserving that name. Arrest them, interrogate, then present charges or let them go. But of course the idea of habeas corpus only applies to Jews, not to “terrorist” Arabs. Israelis live under civil law, Palestinians under some kind of martial law and even peaceful protests and political activism (i.e. to follow up to the Goldstone Report) are heavily repressed:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4648
Of course our (Zionist-compliant) media is not interested in peaceful protests, so they never report them. Violence is the only thing they are interested in and naturally the Palestinians are always the ones who “spark it” for as we all know, Israel’s state terror must be portrayed as self-defense...(the same goes for US state terror, of course)
White Rose, I don’t know what your interest in Sophie Scholl is (I live in Bavaria) but she would have been as appalled about the crimes of the Israeli government, as she was about the Nazis (and for those who don’t know her – she was beheaded at the age of 22 for collaborating in the non-violent student resistance group “White Rose”)
The shocking cruelty and inhumanity of the Nazis was based on their concept of racism: the higher race is entitled to treat the “Untermenschen” (subhumans”) as they please: take away their dignity, their jobs, their possessions, humiliate them on a daily basis, let them work like slaves until they die of exhaustion and hunger and finally mass-murder them ....
64 years later: “Send the Arabs to the Gas Chambers”
(settler's graffiti on the walls of an Arab house in Hebron)
Of course nobody can compare Nazi Germany with Israel, but the similarity cannot be overlooked: to strip people (in this case Arabs) of their humanity because they belong to a different race or religion, and use this as an excuse and justification for systemic violence, dispossession and cruelty ...
Did you know that according to classical Judaism, non-Jews are not considered (real) human beings?
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2902/jewish/What-Is-the-Cause-of-Antisemitism.htm
(Excerpt) “A Jew is a created condition. G-d created grass, trees, stones, water, animals, humans, and Jews. A Jew is a unique creation, so the soul of a Jew is inherently and basically different than the soul of a non-Jew.”
German journalists are under the illusion that they have a special obligation to treat Israel “fairly and friendly” but what they do, is treating Israel with kid gloves, ignore the state terror, no matter how long the “monumental injustice” (Avi Shlaim) against the Palestinians has been going on ... (the misery in Gaza is of no interest, if there is no physical violence to report ...)
While we are celebrating Christmas and the nativity story still moves us, even as adults ( Mary and Joseph would probably be some sort of “political refugees” in modern parlance) I find it ironic to hear in the news, that many Christians are travelling to Bethlehem to worship there as if nothing had happened ..
If the three holy kings arrived today they would not be able to bring Jesus any gifts ...
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20photo%20negatives/2003%20news%20phot%20negatives/December/wall25.jpg
http://images.travelpod.com/users/abarnes/1.1226322120.bethlehem-wall.jpg
Perhaps they could throw them over the wall? But that could never happen (even if they managed to throw so high) because three dark “Arab looking” guys on camels, giving themselves airs and suspiciously approaching the “security fence” would swiftly be “extrajudicially” taken care of [also known as “targeted killing”] by Israel’s “special forces”, wouldn’t they?
That's an excellent statement, tocqueville22.
What I see is Israel acting as agent provocateur in these two fatal incidents, trying to provoke a violent Palestinian reaction. Who cares that they're on the day after Christmas?
Back to business as usual.
More than two thousand years ago, Jewish bullshit artists wrote some fairy tales about their own tribe. Designating themselves with one invisible God and they His chosen people. Desparate people in desparate times bought this drivel. Fair enough. Today it's beyond all rationale.
The written word of God saying anything is a big bullshit hoax.
It's a mighty handy reference though, any time you want to enrich yourself or punish the rest of humanity for not handing everything over to you. This can justify killing anyone and everyone. Hell, who's going to argue if God said he's backing your tribe over the other guy's?
This narcissistic, absurd fairy tale has been shoved on the world as if it's fact.
Master bullshitters never stop bullshitting.
Ah, the Christmas spirit.
Why not quote directly from the Palestinian authority's news agency? In their account the three men killed in the west bank were all civilians. In contrast, the French source quoted here is clearly biased towards Israel, since they bother mentioning that Anan Subuh was in fact a high ranking member of the Al-Aqsa brigades (an organization responsible for the killing of Israeli civilians in the hundreds, I will add, being the zionist shill that I am). Also, why bother mentioning that the three were wanted for killing an Israeli civilian two days ago? Another sign of the French news site's bias. After all, the murdered Israeli was a settler and a rabbi, so shooting him is what one should have called a nonviolent act of peaceful civilian defiance.
It only said 1400 Palestinian deaths, and didn't lie, calling them all civilians in red, blinking letters, further proof of pro-Israel bias by the French.
It also failed to mention that eight years of rockets aimed at civilians was in no way a provocation for self-defense by Israel.
Darn those sneaky Zionist Frenchies!
eight years and five deaths equals murdering 1400 disposessed
The zionists managed to kill as many of their own soldiers in one day as the Resistance killed in eight years.
Zionist have no defense and they know it.
Read it again it says Palestinians plan and simple.
> eight years and five deaths equals murdering 1400 disposessed
As usual, a lie. In the five years prior to operation cast lead there were 20 casualties of rocket launches from Gaza, 5 additional casualties of mortars, and around 200 wounded. More than 7000 rockets launched. The only reason that the number of casualties was not higher is that a large part of Israel's population in the south has spent a large part of their time in shelters. It's not difficult to find the information on the web, and also see the extent of these attacks. There is also no question that operation cast lead has put an end to all this, at least for the time being.
amused to death: can you deny that israel itself was built by terrorists? how do you explain the murder of count folk bernadotte, who saved jews from the nazis, but then faced murder by ben-gurion's driver when the count came to palestine, in 1948 and under u.n. auspices, to draw territorial lines for the new state of israel? israel never prosecuted anyone for this heinous crime, and when the statutes of limitations ran, the count's murderers boldly proclaimed their crime. and simon wisenthal, who once said the statutes of limitations should never apply to murderers, was happy that those who hatched his state through murderous deeds escaped punishment. this crime against the swedish count is one of the least publicized in history, yet it shows that israel is always willing to kill for more and more land, lebensraum, if you will. they're just europe's battered little brothers who had to find some place with people they could conquer. it is understandable that they projected their angst, given europe's atrocities against them, but to allow israel, a nation of only 8 million, to continually drive the world to the brink of war and irrational armament expenditures, is wrong, especially given that there are hundreds of million of arabs in the region, none of whom had a hand in the holocaust, but must now endure a hostile, affluent, western, and nuclearly armed superpower in their midst.
And as I've told you before amused_to_death the Israelis had 6 months free of Hamas rockets late last year with only a few totally ineffectual ones launched by Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Fatah militant wing) but the Israelis don't want peace - it does not help their territorial ambitions - so they killed several Hamas leaders on US election day so that it did not appear in the MSM. Now go and do some reading! And I mean something other than NYT or the Jerusalem Post. Try Ha'aretz even.
Since you seem to know some statistics tell us how many Palestinians were killed during that period by Israeli aggression.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Hamas spent one year with a strictly enforced self imposed ceasefire before being democratically elected rulers of Palestine.
How did the zionists react to peace for a whole year and a valid election?
They assassinated and murdered dozens of Hamas ministers.
Anyone who really wanted peace would have grasped it after the election
instead the zionists went on a murdrous rampage.
Because if you allowed peace the greedy toady zionists would not be able to steal more land.
Ok 20 to 1400, with five zionists being killed by their own demons.
There's a lot of killing going on on both sides and to call one set justifed and the other set a crime really doesn't make sense to me. I have no outrage or maybe equal outrage at this point. We should all be working to stop ALL the killing and violence. No one is going to negotiate whist being shot at.
How can you look at the recent evidence and come to that conclusion? Are you even remotely aware of what life is like for Gazans? Do you know how many children have been shot at point blank range by Israeli soldiers, many of whom are so disgusted they are even protesting. Do facts ever enter into your reasoning?
Actually killing the Gazans as the zionists did is a war crime as Goldstone reported because of disproportionate use of force among many other zionist war crimes.
amused 11:56
There is this new system your land lords, the Arabs invented.
It is called the Judicial System
It would be a vast improvement to your present barbaric way of acquiring wealth.
I suggest you sit down with your wise peace loving Semetic brothers and sisters and have them explain to you how it works.
It might help you overcome your violent ignorant greed driven culture.
The settlers are NOT your regular civilians....They are are barabaric, vile, racist and terroristic. And when are they going o be brought up to justice for murder, theft and error? You fcking zionist hypocrite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZtlEBmbHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ-EMlRtwks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXpL-Nydx4&feature=related
There are more but you get the idea