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Soldier Seeking Asylum: 'I Want to Be Able to Atone'
Elsa Rassbach interviews André Shepherd, a U.S. soldier applying for asylum in Germany
Background: the view from Germany
Berlin, May 26, 2009. Early in June, President Barack Obama will sign into law the supplemental funding of 92 billion U.S. dollars for the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan that was approved by the U.S. Congress last week. Then he will depart for a speaking tour and meetings with heads of state in Egypt and in Europe.
On June 5th, he will be coming to visit us here in Germany, making stops at the concentration camp at Buchenwald, at Weimar, and at Dresden, a site also of massive bombings of civilians during World War II. This will be Obama's third visit to Germany in less than a year, and it seems likely that he will once again, as in the previous two visits, make a pitch for more German support for the ongoing "war against terror," particularly in Afghanistan. Though Obama is popular here, the German government has for the most part stonewalled his requests for further direct German involvement in these wars.
The well-known German ambivalence towards the U.S.
"war against terror" is now being further tested by a U.S. soldier's
application for asylum in Germany. André Shepherd, who was stationed in
Germany, refuses to deploy to Iraq. Many U.S. soldiers stationed in Europe who
refused service in or support of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan have been
tried in U.S. military courts in Europe and imprisoned in the U.S. military's
correctional facility at Mannheim; the most well known are Blake Lemoine (2005)
and Agustín Aguayo (2006-2007). 
But Shepherd is so far the first to turn to the German government for help: last November he filed a formal application to the German government for asylum. For the moment his case is entirely outside of U.S. jurisdiction.
Shepherd argues that there are strong reasons arising from Germany's history for Germany to grant him asylum: the Nuremberg Principles and the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany that has provisions written in the spirit of Nuremberg. In 2005 the highest German administrative court upheld a German military officer's right to refuse orders in 2003 to provide software that might have been used by the U.S. for logistics during the invasion of Iraq.
Shepherd's case is of significance in part because of the strategic importance of the bases in Germany for the U.S. wars in the Middle East. Outside of Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. has far more bases in Germany than in any other country; ca. 68,000 U.S. troops are stationed at U.S. bases throughout southern Germany. Approximately 80% of the soldiers and supplies to the war zones are routed through Germany, which also hosts the Pentagon's commands for Africa (AFRICOM) and for Europe and the former Soviet Union (EUCOM).
As a sovereign nation, Germany could at any time restrict use of the U.S. bases, as Turkey, also a NATO member, did in 2003. The German government refused to provide its own troops for the Iraq war, which did not have a UN mandate. But the German government interpreted the NATO treaties as allowing the U.S. to use the U.S. bases in Germany for the invasion of Iraq.
According to a 2005 survey conducted by the German military (Bundeswehr), 68% of the Germans polled oppose the use of war to solve any international conflict; in contrast ca. 90% of U.S. citizens support the use of war. Per numerous surveys, a majority of Germans oppose German participation in the war in Afghanistan. In the campaigns leading up to the parliamentary election in September, it is likely that at least one parliamentary party will call for the closing of all foreign military bases on German soil.
André Shepherd, 32, grew up in Ohio, where he attended college. Like President Obama, he is an African-American. In 2003, when unemployed, he joined the U.S. Army. He was trained as an Apache helicopter mechanic and was stationed in Germany at the U.S. Army's Ansbach-Katterbach base. From there he was deployed in 2004 to Iraq for six months. In 2007, back in Germany, he received orders to return to Iraq. In April 2007, he went absent without leave (AWOL) and lived underground in Germany. He formally applied for asylum in Germany on November 26, 2008. His application references a directive of the European Union under which soldiers must be granted asylum in the E.U. if they have reason to fear persecution in their home countries for refusing to participate in crimes or actions that violate international law. Shepherd is currently living in an asylum facility in western Germany together with other asylum applicants, primarily from Iraq and Afghanistan; the facility and a small living stipend are provided by the German government pending the outcome of his case.
This interview was previously published in the national German daily newspaper junge Welt on May 23, 2009, the 60th anniversary of the German Constitution.
Since the "war on terror" began, there have been many U.S. soldiers who have spoken out and many who have refused to serve. But you are the first so far to apply for asylum in Germany. What are the grounds on which your application is based?
Well, it's very simple: In the war of aggression against the Iraqi people, the United States violated not only domestic law, but international law as well. The U.S. government has deceived not only the American public, but also the international community, the Iraqi community, as well as the military community. And the atrocities that have been committed there these past six years are great breaches of the Geneva Conventions. My applying for asylum is based on the grounds that international law has been broken and that I do not want to be forced to fight in an illegal war.
In your asylum application, you mention the Principles of the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, which were incorporated in the UN Charter. In Nuremberg, the chief U.S. prosecutor, Robert H. Jackson, stated: "To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." In opening the trial on behalf of the United States, he stated that "while this law is first applied against German aggressors, this law includes and if it is to serve a useful purpose it must condemn aggression by any other nations, including those which sit here now in judgment." What does Nuremberg mean to you?
The Nuremberg statutes are the foundation of many U.S. soldiers' refusal of the Iraq war, and to some extent of the Afghanistan war. The United States with its Allies after World War II crafted these laws stating that even though you've gotten orders to commit crimes against humanity, you don't have to follow them, because every person has their own conscience. That was more than 60 years ago. Today the U.S. government seems to be under the impression that those rules do not apply to it. In invading Iraq, they did not wait for a UN mandate, they didn't let the inspectors do their job, and they made up stories about who's a real threat. This totally violated everything stated in the Nuremberg statutes. The U.S. Constitution states that the U.S. is bound to our international treaties, for example with the UN. When we ignore the UN, we are violating the U.S. Constitution, which every U.S. soldier is sworn to uphold. And the U.S. must also respect our own very strict laws against war crimes and torture. Since the Obama administration refuses to investigate and prosecute the previous administration, it's clear to me that the Obama administration is an accomplice to the previous administration's crimes. They're setting a very dangerous precedent for the future of the world, something I don't want to see. The German people are well aware of the history; it is here that the Nuremberg tenets were first set down. Now we have to find a way to restore those tenets, to actually respect the Nuremberg tenets as well as the Geneva Conventions. Germany needs to tell the U.S., "Look, you guys helped create these laws, and now you guys should abide by your own rules. "
When you were stationed in Ansbach-Katterbach, were you aware of the German citizens' campaign to prevent the U.S. from enlarging the base there?
Yes, there were protests outside of the Katterbach base. Being inside, we understood that the German people weren't against us as soldiers. They were just protesting against Germany's further involvement in U.S. imperialism. So the relationship between us Americans and the Germans working on the base was actually still good. We were of course not allowed to join the protests. I am sure the U.S. military assumed that 50% of the GIs would have been out there protesting. A lot of the soldiers understand what is going on - to the point that we realize that we are just a mercenary army for a few rich people. But a significant number of GIs, about 60%, have families, so it's very difficult for them to go AWOL or make massive resistance.
As part of their protest, the citizens of Ansbach and Katterbach circulated a petition citing Article 26 of the German Constitution, pronounced 60 years ago on May 23rd, 1949, in the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany. Article 26 states that the preparation of aggressive war from German soil is unconstitutional and a criminal offense. In Kaiserslautern and in Ramstein, where there are also U.S. bases, there were also petitions circulated citing this Article. These German believe that the U.S. is violating the German Constitution by preparing aggressive war from German soil. Were the GIs aware of this provision of the German Constitution?
We received almost no information about the German Constitution at all. This seems strange to me, because if we're supposedly in Germany to defend German democracy, shouldn't we know something about it? The fact is that wherever U.S. soldiers are sent, they are taught almost nothing about the people, the culture, the beliefs and laws in the countries we are occupying. When I was in Iraq, they didn't teach us any Arabic. In Ansbach, they do offer an optional German course, but we work long hours speaking English all day, so most GIs don't learn much German. Now that I have been living among Germans for the past eighteen months, I have learned that very many of them are very much against using war to solve international problems or to aggress against people. This comes from what they've learned from their own history. Article 26 of the German Constitution was written in the spirit of the Nuremberg statutes, which state that launching an aggressive war is the most serious crime. The U.S. and the Western Allies approved and authorized the German Constitution. How can the U.S. say we are here in Germany to defend democracy when we are ignoring and violating not only the Nuremberg statutes and the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Constitution, but also the German Constitution?
What is your understanding of why Germany is allowing the U.S. to conduct these wars from German soil?
Honestly, I cannot answer that: you could look at it from the political side; you could look at it from the economic side. Or maybe Germany just has a hands-off approach: "You guys are paying the gas, you guys are paying us for the rental space, so you guys just do your thing, and we're not going to do anything about it."
So in filing this application for asylum, it's not just about finding a place to live or something like that: you're trying to raise a larger historical and political principle?
Yes, that's correct, because it is my sincere belief that the United States has gone too far. In Iraq alone 1.3 million people have died so far, and that includes American soldiers as well. We've attacked several countries over the past eight or nine years: Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan, Iraq, and some places in the Sudan. All over the world, we're just destroying property and killing people, all based on lies. And I feel like that I have to do everything I can to help put an end to this. I feel guilty enough for having taken a part in this war for almost five years. I want to be able to atone for that.
Why didn't you go through the U.S. legal system
and apply to the Army for conscientious objector status?
When I asked my NCO (officer) about applying as a CO (conscientious objector), he told me that you have to be against fighting in all wars of every form. And that doesn't work for me, because of course if you're being overrun by a foreign invader, you would have to fight back. According to U.S. Army regulations, this means you are not a conscientious objector. I also learned of the case of Agustín Aguayo and saw how the military treated him. He was based Schweinfurt, Germany, not far from where I was in Ansbach. He tried to go through the military procedures to be recognized as a conscientious objector, and he refused to load his weapon. Twice he turned himself in to the U.S. authorities and said, "Look, I'm a CO, and I can't do this." But the military wanted to force him to go back and fight anyway. Ultimately they put him in jail in Mannheim. This showed me that I could not expect any help from within the military, and I decided to fight for my rights from the outside.
Can you think of any moment when you suddenly realized, "What I'm doing here is wrong?"
I can't pick only one moment, because this was a process that went on for years. Falludja was one. Looking at the aftermath of that battle, especially what the Marines, and the Air Force, and the Apache helicopters did to that city -- the devastation caused by these machines and the air war, also in Basra and in many other Iraqi cities -- I realized that if it weren't for my work and the work of the other mechanics, those Apaches wouldn't have gotten very far. We were constantly working, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, to make sure this sophisticated equipment continued to fly, especially in the hard conditions in Iraq with all the sand storms and the temperature changes from 140 degrees in the day to 60 at night. Had we, the mechanics of these aircraft, not done our jobs and refused from the beginning to take part in this war, a lot of those people would still be alive, and a lot of the infrastructure in Iraq would still be functioning.
And then there was when one of the Iraqi guys working for the U.S. Army on our sandbags told me how he didn't understand why we were destroying their city, destroying their infrastructure, arresting people. And I'm just standing there like "what?!" I can't believe this stuff is happening, because I thought the military is supposed to be fighting for the rights of people. They're not supposed to torture. They're the ones who are supposed to get rid of the torturers and to stop the rapists and to help people to have a better life. And when I heard what we're really doing - it just turns your whole world upside down!
And then there are the 937 lies of George W. Bush to the American people: you just feel like a fool, because we signed up to do X, but we wound up doing Y and Z and who knows what else. We killed people; some of our people got killed. An entire country, two countries, are completely destroyed. I keep wondering: what was this all for?
Ask anybody, why are we in Iraq? And you hear several theories: Israel, oil, strategic purposes for Iran, whatever, but no one really has the answer. Same thing in Afghanistan: the NATO mission only went to Afghanistan because of U.S. insistence. We have to force the U.S. to clarify what the actual objective in Afghanistan is. Are they there to help out the drug dealers cultivating heroin, or for the Unical pipeline, or are they there just to have a forward base to go into China or Russia? Why are we there?
Do you think President Obama is going to change any of this?
No. Obama has the backing of the international corporations. And the people who gave him the most money are the ones whose interests are going to be served first. And it's quite obvious. He won't go after the prior administration for the war crimes; he won't pull out of Iraq. He's leaving 50,000 soldiers to conduct combat missions in Iraq. That means the war is continuing. He wants to escalate the war in Afghanistan. He wants to keep pushing for AFRICOM, the U.S. command for Africa based in Stuttgart, and he's pushing for the missile shield to try to encircle Russia and Iran. These things show me that Barack Obama is not going to change anything. And Obama is only one guy. He still has to deal with the entire Congress, the court system, the Pentagon. The military has been around for over 220 some years, and they're not going to change overnight just because there's a new Commander-in-Chief. They're still arresting people who refuse to fight. They're still putting them in jail, giving them dishonorable discharges, and some are facing possible felony convictions. But Obama has yet to speak of the growing number of soldiers refusing to fight for him - well, first Bush, and now him. So I don't see President Obama granting anyone clemency until the entire "war on terror" is finished, and Afghanistan and Iraq are part of the same war.
How is your asylum application progressing?
We had a hearing on the 4th of February with my attorney, Dr. Reinhard Marx, and myself at the Federal Office of Migration and Immigration. Dr. Marx was recommended to me by Amnesty International. I believe that we presented our case very well, and we're waiting to see what the decision is. If the Office of Migration and Immigration were to deny my request for asylum, then I would bring my case to court in Germany. Because of the political sensitivity of this case, and because this is a precedent-setting case, it could take a lot of time.
Many U.S. soldiers who have fled the military are living underground in the U.S. and dozens more are likely in Europe. In Canada, many of them have applied for asylum, but since last summer they are being deported and then imprisoned in the U.S. What if Germany rejects your asylum application?
Then I'm facing a U.S. military court martial and jail time. I'm not saying I would go back to the U.S. willingly; I would still try to find another way to build a life somewhere.
What if you are granted asylum in Germany?
The day I am legally allowed to go to the German Employment Office, I will probably camp outside so I can be the first one in there, because being 32 years old and healthy, I feel I should be able to make my own way. I'm taking classes to learn German, and I'm trying to get into the University of Karlsruhe so that I can study computer science. I want to get the Bachelor's or even the Master's so that I can eventually start my own business. My ultimate dream job would be to work with German and Japanese companies, which are the foremost leaders in information technology, to develop artificial intelligence.
If Germany granted you asylum, would large numbers of GIs who are stationed here start walking off the bases?
I would see maybe like 100 or 200, but I don't see 30,000 soldiers applying for asylum in Germany. It's no easy thing, because you're basically saying goodbye to your country, perhaps for the rest of your life. That's a really big step. You have to say goodbye to your family. You've got to learn a new language and try to fit into the culture. You've got to deal with homesickness. It is a very important personal step that a lot of soldiers would find difficult.
But you are taking all these difficulties upon yourself. Why do you feel called to do this?
Because I was sick of watching the United States degenerate into something I can't even recognize anymore. The America that I grew up in isn't there anymore. Between Clinton, Bush, and now Obama, the U.S. is sliding from the constitutional republic that it was to where now the corporations are just taking all the fruits of the American people's labor; the country's really poor, we've got endless war everywhere. 60 years from now people will be saying that we were the country that destroyed half the Middle East for nothing. They're building up a civilian corps that'll spy and turn in everybody, you know, like a modern day Stasi. These things are very disturbing. This is a country that I don't want to live in or raise my future children in. America's going down the exact same path as the Roman Empire, and it's really sad, having grown up there, to watch the destruction slowly happen before your eyes. Sometimes you feel, no matter what you do, it's going to happen anyway. There have been many people before who have been sounding the alarm bells, many peace organizations. And I want to help, put my hand in and try to stop it as well. And this is something that's been building up over time, because I'm totally hurt. I feel cheated. I feel lied to. You know, I helped murder people in Iraq for nothing. These are things I'm not proud of whatsoever, and I want to be able to turn this around and bring the people ultimately responsible for this to justice. Because had I known back then what I know now, I never would have signed up in the first place.
What can people do to help you?
Help raise awareness internationally, because this is not just about me. It's about the other soldiers as well. We're all in this together. And especially it's about the Iraqi people, the Afghan people, the dead soldiers, just everyone. Organizations people can contact are Military Counseling Network (MCN) or Connection e.V., Tübingen Progressive Americans, Munich American Peace Committee, Iraq Veterans Against the War, and it's good to contact with DFG-VK in Germany - they're a national organization. Right now we're collecting letters to give to the German government to show the support of the German people. The German government also needs to know that Americans and people from other countries support my request for asylum. This is an international problem, and I believe in an international solution.
To support André Shepherd, contact:
girights-germany@dfg-vk.de
or see www.connection-ev.de
***
Elsa Rassbach is U.S. citizen, filmmaker and journalist who often lives and works in Berlin, Germany. She co-founded American Voices Abroad Military Project, an initiative to support GIs who resist in Europe, and she is active in DFG-VK (the German affiliate of War Resisters International, WRI) as well as in Code Pink and the International Committee of United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ). Her award-winning film, "The Killing Floor," set in the Chicago Stockyards, will be re-released this year.
Translation into German by Eva Brückner-Tuckwiller.
Both photos: Credit: Connection e.V.- Posted in
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Show AllI certainly hope Germany grants asylum to this boy. Germany is where he should be.
"I certainly hope Germany grants asylum to this boy."
Thomas, Andre Shepherd is a 32-year-old MAN of courage and reason, not a boy.
As Edmund Burke said: "The easiest way for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
This is a good man choosing to do something, and sometimes it only takes one to upset the apple cart and start its downhill roll, with enough noise and clatter to wake up more people.
Let us hope so.
Just posted on the "Jesus had 2 Dads T-shirt picture."
www.commondreams.org/further/2009/05/27-4
IN SAN FRANCISCO YESTERDAY - "Jesus had 2 Dads"
A very appropriate post to the controversy of the T-shirt statement and now to this action of Andre Shepherd ... and his last name is perfect as he obviously has reached deeply inside himself to do the right. His journey is on its way.
DO = Divine Order
peace, Thomas, ... cm
I'm willing to give the writer the benefit of the doubt and say that he didn't mean anything racial when using the term boy. During the Vietnam conflict I remember seeing signs that said "We support our boys in Vietnam" and "Bring our boys home". The term troops would have been more appropriate.
Me too re benefit of the doubt for Thomas. ????? YES ???? /cm
Why did you even go there? Nothing muddles a conversation like irrelevant semantics digressions. That's so unhelpful.
"Bring our boys home" indeed!
"Germany is where he should be."
don't want any uppity pacifists in the land of the free, do we Thom?
"...every enlistee spends a week of basic training,- or at least a few days, doing bayonet training,--and we are putting a bayonet on the end of a rifle,-and we repeatedly stab a dummy that looks like a human being, and yell "kill!!" with every movement.- That is the basis, the first step of dehumanization towards the enemy,- the acceptance to kill.
There is a very popular thing our drill sergeants require us to say: the response to the question: "soldiers what makes the green grass grow?" and the response is. "blood! blood!! blood!!!, Drill Sergeant!..." "
Kristofer Goldsmith, ex army sergeant, Winter Soldier Hearings before the Progressive Caucus May, 09 Wash, D.C.
First let me ask if Thomas More meant to be insulting in his reference to "this boy"? White men called black men "boys" in the South...
Besides the fact that Andre Shepherd is thirty two years old, and has more integrity and courage than most of us will ever witness...
A person willing to stick his neck out for his principles and values is very rare...
Is it possible that Thomas More might be an elderly gentleman, who could call lotsa folks son. Stop being like the US and unnecessarily attacking people in the world for every little thing.
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Here is a problem:
"When I asked my NCO (officer) about applying as a CO (conscientious objector), he told me that you have to be against fighting in all wars of every form. And that doesn't work for me, because of course if you're being overrun by a foreign invader, you would have to fight back."
I too would fight against foreign invaders if they had the bad judgement to march into Brooklyn. (I would not retaliate against some random oil rich country, though). Quite frankly I would fight against domestic invaders if they started crashing into our homes and dragging people away.
There needs to be a way to apply for CO status based on the particular war. Is it legal by national and international law? Does it conform to laws about treatment of civilians and prisoners? Is there any reason in hell that our asses should be there shooting?
I hope Germany gives this man asylum. Germany has been blessed for the last 60 years by the post WW II ban on military development. I hear it is a nice place with a medical system and all.
Joe
We've come full circle. I knew a man who left Czechoslovakia in 1968 because he didn't want to do the USSR's dirty work in the Warsaw Pact invasion. I also know of people who saw the light in Vietnam and deserted.
I wish this soldier all the best. I hope someone does grant him asylum.
Very interesting...I wonder what the future holds for this young man.....
Andre Shepherd expresses his concerns about the direction of the country very well. I wish him all the best.
Joe
The Cowboy Code
1. must never shoot first, hit a smaller man, or take unfair advantage.
2. must never go back on his word, or a trust confided in him.
3. must always tell the truth.
4. must be gentle with children, the elderly and animals.
5. must not advocate or possess racially or religiously intolerant ideas.
6. must help people in distress.
7. must be a good worker.
8. must keep himself clean in thought, speech, action and personal habits.
9. must respect women, parents and his nation's laws.
10. is a patriot.
--Gene Autry
This is one man who lives it. God love you Mr. Shepherd.
That is why I always objected to calling GWB a cowboy. He was a spoiled preppy who never had to work and who had everything handed to him.
Joe
Check that Joe!
Gene Autry used to end his show with the Cowboy Code which I and all other little boys religiously watched and attempted to live up to. It was 1954. I have failed this code on many occasions.
The Lone Ranger had a similar but shorter guide which was to listen to the voice inside of you when trying to determine the appropriateness of an action and that voice would tell you without fail whether what you were contemplating was right or wrong. You know, it works!
Sometimes I have ignored it though in my long life, --to my detriment I assure you.
If you want to read a really interesting interview read the interview of Grace Slick on Counterpunch currently. Top rate.
Cheers
Wow...a couragous man! 100%!
I'm glad Thomas More's racial insult, as well as his insinuation that Shepherd should not be in the U.S., was the first to be posted. It reveals what Andre' Shepherd, clearly a person of great moral courage, has no doubt had to face during his life.
This is our letter, sent to the address listed above. More letters would be welcome, I am sure.
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To Whom it may Concern,
I would just like to express my (and my wife's) support of André Shepherd's request for asylum in Germany. Someone once said, "Suppose they gave a war and nobody came?" So far, it is just a handful of young men and women who have read the Nuremberg Principles, the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the Constitution of the United States, and have taken them to heart.
Many of them have been persecuted and imprisoned by the US Military and US courts. It behooves every one of us to support those who have the courage to stand up to this monolith and I hope the German government will feel the same way.
I am a nuclear veteran (Operation Redwing, Bikini, 1956) who has seen the realities of nuclear war at first hand and have been trying to put the nuclear dragon to death ever since. For a while, we made progress, until Bush and his minions declared the Geneva Conventions and the Nuremberg Principles "quaint" and illegally and unilaterally canceled out the treaties made amongst nations to eliminate WMD's. He succeeded in restarting the cold war, to the great profit of the arms manufacturing cartels and the military. Apparently, under the new regime, there is to be no "Nuremberg Tribunal" for any of these war criminals. They are to walk free with their ill-gotten gains. What message does that give to the world?
Please, continue to work for peace!
Most sincerely,
Steve & Adrienne Osborn
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Shepherd comes across as a well informed and open-minded person who does not swallow the easily discernable lies that that are fed to us about the rest of the world. As he succinctly puts it, the Obama Administration is almost losing the battle of freeing the minds of most US citizens from FEAR-instigated wars.
As some who was born in a different country I can empathize with him when he says that:
"That's a really big step. You have to say goodbye to your family. You've got to learn a new language and try to fit into the culture. You've got to deal with homesickness. It is a very important personal step that a lot of soldiers would find difficult."
I felt the same way when the time came to make the decision to move to the west. As a matter of fact, I sat on my visa for six months mulling over before finally taking the final step to leave my homeland. If granted asylum, Shepherd exhibits the traits of a "refugee" who is very likely to succeed in a different culture. Good luck to you brother!
There is an essential difference in being a Conscientious Objector (CO) and "refusing an illegal order".
To fight in a war of aggression "obliges" the soldier to refuse the orders. That is the Nuremburg principle.
It is absolutely wrong to convolute this with CO status which has to do with the principal of participating in using war and armed conflict to resolve disputes between nations. For example Quakers cannot join the military. But in a voluntary professional army you cannot pick and choose the politics of your country, provided it is within the law.
In the case of Iraq, the US is in contravention of its own constitution and international law. The war is based on fabrication, deceit and treason on the part of the administration. Unfortunately the present administration is complicit by default.
America has become a Fascist state dominated by corporate interests using wars of aggression to maintain its failing economic position in the world.
This man is brave to make a stand but he will soon realise, if he has not realised it already, that his country has no principles and the German government will do their best not to confront the question on the basis of principle either.
You've hit the nail squarely on the head and this is exactly the problem for the Americans, the Brits, the Sri Lankans, the Israelis, etc... and this is why the UN and the ICC were created, and also why both those institutions are bent so far out of shape by abuse of power that they cannot function to fulfil either the spirit or the letter of the law.
We now have to watch avarice, ignorance and tyranny cause nations to dig their own graves and destroy themselves from within or, as more eloquently put by pastor Jeremiah Wright "the chickens come home to roost".
The asylum request is clever because, it is easier to establish under German law that the Iraq aggression and occupation is illegal. In fact because it is, Germany withdrew its support. So the question facing a German judge will be simply; "will this man face hardship or condemnation for disobeying an order to participate in what he could quite rightly interpreter under international conventions as an illegal war? If there is evidence that he will be persecuted on returning to the authority of his country he has the right to asylum under German and European laws. Case closed!"
Bravo André Shepherd
I hope you receive asylum.
This young man most likley will not receive the asylum he seeks, and should in my opinion follow the proper military procedure and risk time in the stockade, after his conviction. He will be given a 'less than honorable' discharge, but those most often are overturned on appeal.
I understand his motives, and certainly sympathise with his position but he lacks the 'legal standing' which would be the bench mark of any truly honorable application for asylum.
As for Thomas Moore being 'expelled' from CD, I am somewhat floored on the prospect. Yes his racial over tones reflects his attitude, and yes he has on many occasions made some absolutely ridiculous postings---and each time---he was "set upon" by the readers. To silence him is I believe a miscarriage of responsibility on the part of CD, and certainly not in keeping with what I have learned to respect about the "progressive press" and "progressive thinkers".
Having grown up in a segregated area of the country, and being a "race" apart from the "dominant whites" I experienced racial hatred at an early age---and when I was a child it hurt. One of my relatives who had experienced it as well said something to me that made sense then and still does. When someone holds your race against you, it usually is from ignorance, because we are all 'pink on the inside' and the fact that they themselves are afraid of you; because you're so pretty-------ha ha ha----
More than 37 years ago I was forced to watch a dear friend of mine bleed to death from a wound in the femoral artery, we could not stop his bleeding and it was so rapid he filled the passenger side of a military jeep's floor with his blood----he was African American---but you know---his blood was red, and the same 'type' as many of the others in my squad. His mother and I remained friends until her death of old age just a few years ago----so----"we are all pink on the inside", and we all bleed red blood........except for maybe Thomas Moore; his may be polka dotted---lol----If free speech means anything it should also mean that speech is most often a method to express one's inner feelings---if someone is a racist---no amount of silence will change their mind. Another thought for the 'racists'---it was recently discovered and revealed that there is more 'genetic diversity' between any two Chimpanzees in the same tree (who share 98% of the genetic material with human beings, which actually makes humans 'talking chimpanzees') than there is genetic differences between all of humanity. And besides, TMoore was often entertaining with his 'really dumb' statements, duplicity, and arrogance--but he has as much right to them as the next 'talking chimpanzee' or excuse me---person
I might not sit down to a nice dinner with him---but I would never deny him his right to make a fool of himself---even anonymously.
Good Luck America, you really need it.
Very well said, Native Son.
Funny and sweet post. Kind and very forgiving. Your vote probably counts for more than most.
Sioux Rose thinks that Thomas has not been kicked off CD and the poster tmoore is a trickster. I suppose that we will not know for sure until / unless we see his tag.
Joe
nevermind
"we are all pink on the inside"
Outstanding post NativeSon,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
So Obama will put on his beenie and go to Buchenwald, but he won't go to Gaza. This is why the Zionist can piss down Obama's back and tell him it's raining. Obama is a joke.
Andre Shepherd is a wise young man, articulate, and a visionary.
I admire him.
Hey..one of my posts has been removed!!
So has one of mine!
My memory is not great, but I think I asked Thomas More to stop using the word boy in the comments to this article. I do not see that post now. This is strange. There are some articles that are clogged with childish back and forths that are allowed to remain intact. Why are posters and posts being removed?
Joe
Joe,
Yes you did say something to that effect....Mine was a little piece regarding the resurrection of the CD dead. (How some have come back using different names) My post was not offensive to anyone nor critical of CD. What is strange is the fact that Thomas' original comment, with the unfortunate "boy" reference, is still posted.(Or was as of this writing)....
I have never before had one of my comments (Acrimonious or otherwise) removed from this comment forum. Also I have never reported comments that I felt were offensive (And there were many) I simply ignore them.......
"According to a 2005 survey conducted by the German military (Bundeswehr), 68% of the Germans polled oppose the use of war to solve any international conflict; in contrast ca. 90% of U.S. citizens support the use of war."
perhaps this poll only interviewed americans stationed in germany?
surely the second figure should be 99.9%.
Bring America Back !!!!........May the force be with Andre in seeking asylum====His cause is Just and He is absolutely correct on the Issues !!
***The military-industrial complex Beast is way out of control, but rolls on and on and on !!!
***Team Bush are war criminals, and Barak (Cave-In) Obama is adopting the illegal Neocon children===Pathetic !!
I am humbled by the courageous and clearly principled stand taken by Mr. Shepherd. The outcome is significant for the world as it is for him. I hope this story gets the recognition it merits and I hope Mr. Shepherd is blessed with a rich, full life in his new home. Whatever the outcome, by this action his life has become truly honorable. I would like him to know the gratitude I feel for his brilliantly brave fight as one man against an out of control military machine. I'm sure I am only one among many of a number that by all rights should continue to grow as his case proceeds. Thank you Andre Shepherd.
Andre' Shepherd deserves our support. Please sign the postcard and send him a message with the link in the article. Send him $ if you can.
"...every enlistee spends a week of basic training,- or at least a few days, doing bayonet training,--and we are putting a bayonet on the end of a rifle,-and we repeatedly stab a dummy that looks like a human being, and yell "kill!!" with every movement.- That is the basis, the first step of dehumanization towards the enemy,- the acceptance to kill.
There is a very popular thing our drill sergeants require us to say: the response to the question: "soldiers what makes the green grass grow?" and the response is. "blood! blood!! blood!!!, Drill Sergeant!..." "
Kristofer Goldsmith, ex army sergeant, Winter Soldier Hearings before the Progressive Caucus May, 09 Wash, D.C.
Please see the letter below by minitrue and please use it as a model to send to anyone who could influence the decision to give asylum to Andre Shepherd.
Joe
So ultimately his case would be decided by a German judge? I wonder who will get to pick that judge...