A longer term, citizen memory is beginning: we are noticing two, or three, stolen elections, we remember the Vietnam fight and the arguments concerning our stay, and the wizard behind the curtain at the DOD - trillion for What?
The Soviet Union is gone.
A bit of an historical memory would/will change many of the members of Congress.

I wonder, if there were more Greens in congress, whould there be more votes to defend the constitution?

FYI,

This is the text of the letter I received from my Congressman recently:

"
Thanks for your message in support of impeaching the President, Vice President, or both. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

I have consistently supported efforts to fully investigate the actions of the Bush Administration. Most recently, I joined the sponsor of the resolution, Mr. Kucinich, to refer H. Res. 1258, the resolution to impeach President Bush to the House Committee on the Judiciary with the understanding the committee will begin an aggressive investigation leading to potential hearings. Earlier this year, I signed on to Rep. Wexler's letter requesting impeachment hearings against the Vice President.

However, the administration has consistently refused to cooperate with congressional investigations, including subpoenas and contempt citations. In response, I have voted to hold former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a legally binding subpoena. Even if the current administration continues to stonewall the nation and Congress, I would expect the next administration to be willing to permit independent investigations into the abuses of the Bush Administration. I look forward to a Department of Justice and an independent judiciary that will apply the rule of law to every American equally, even former Presidents and Vice Presidents.

To prevent further destruction by the Bush Administration I signed a letter to the President informing him that if he authorizes a preemptive attack on Iran absent Congressional authorization, I will organize my colleagues in the calling for the immediate impeachment proceedings for violating Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution that states only Congress has the power to "declare war". While I still believe that impeachment cannot pass the Senate, I do think the threat of impeachment should be used to prevent the disastrous consequences of a unilateral strike on Iran.

Thanks again for contacting me. Please keep in touch.

Sincerely,
Rep. Peter DeFazio
Fourth District, OREGON "

Oakknot
I sent a message to my rep, Earl Blumenauer, but it remains to be seen if he will have the moral courage to sign on to the impeachment bill.

If your representative were "a good man" he wouldn't ignore the obvious. I regard only two of our representatives "good men". Thank you for speaking truth to David Price. Nothing personal.

My rep. is Louis Gohmert-R., Tx. This "man" is the most useless waste of air, food, and water that could possibly exist on the face of this planet. He couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were printeed on the heel.

You are wrong about Kucincih--I have been following him for years. I think he back Obama because he is a Dem. I am not. Kucinch has quoted Goodman many times. He's far from perfect. But, at least he backs getting out of the war(s) (he was actually there to vote against it), single payer helath care, no more nukes, etc.We should be so lucky (and smart) to end up with a Kucincih presidency.

Way too late? Kucinich has been talking impeachment for years and is the only person to bring it to the house floor. Maybe you haven't followed him closely.

I agree that the Dems are complicit in the rise of fascism in the US, but DK does seem, from my perspective, to actually act with integrity.

I am next door in Darrell Issa's district. Same story. Republicans water bearers for Team Bush.

Agree. The biggest lie that most Americans willingly swallow is that there are two distinct parties that contest each other for dominion.

There is only "The Party". All else is a charade for the benefit of those who believe our shredded Constitution has any relevance or meaning.

With a few individual exceptions, The Party consists of bought cowards who fight amongst themselves only as a means to gain a better position in line for lining their pockets during the following four years.

Those who vote, only enable this travesty.

well, at least one person with a modicum of common sense...............

F**K! I just caught the end of it! Isnt he on again at 7:00(?) with LouDobbs (of all things--he has to take the media atten. where he can get it!)I couldnt get the video that a friend sent me fro YouTube to work--apaprentl he was ion C-SPAN this AM. I MAY have it on DVR.

I fear Ron Paul may be a racist. I have not paid enought attention to him to actually know.(My ears closed up when I heard "close all fed. prog".) But i know he received money from some White supremecsit groups.

Thanks for the head up! ANY Third Party candidate deserves a listen and a place in the debate!

My name is on the petition.

Dems , as a whole, kept saying "Bush is on the way out" and "lets just concentrate on the election". Well, it turns out that Bush can still do alot of damage. He shoidl; AT LEAST be censured, before he gets us into WWIII!(Georgia/Cheney, Nukes to India, bombing Pakistan, Russia moving ships to Venezuela--which is entirely our fault--the CIA should stop trying to assassinate Chavez--at least he won one real election!)

If "impeachment is the most serious thing they can do" as McDermott says, why did they do it over a sexual affairs and a lie about the affair? This is ALOT more serious, folks. I dont see how we can have real change without justice. And, BTW--I dont think anyone is "waiting around for America's moral leaderhsip in the world" anymore. If they ever were.

"I wondered what the Bush/Cheney oily cabal did with all the ENRON crooks"

Well for one thing - they let them keep their mansions - bought with with stolen money.

The ENRON Ceo (criminal Ken Lay) died before his appeal - so the judge decided that he was "not guilty" and his family could keep the stuff they bought with the stolen millions.
ENRON was one of the largest corporate contributors to the Bush /Cheney campaign in 2000 (ENRON also gave zillions of $$$ to the democrats).

The plutocracy now controlls every aspect of American life so well that the only way to get rid of them is to do exactly the opposite of George Bush's advice after 9/11..."Go Shopping" In other words: Kill your TV, Buy nothing, unless it's used from a neighbor, or a local craft.

The insurance companies have prevented the United States from having healthcare, The oil and security companies have committed murder. The media is propaganda.
I wish the sheeple were smart enough to have a general strike. If only we had a brain...and a Constitution!

I was about to reply to the comment above this one, then discovered that tetti_tatti had already said a lot of what I wanted to say.

At this point, I view Kucinich's role as one to largely distract the progressive movement. While the Obama-Biden campaign and the Congressional Democrats move so far to the right as to be down below the horizon when viewed from any progressive position, it appears to be Kucinich's role to come up with stunts like this to distract and try to assuage the Democratic base.

I do agree with the arguments for impeachment. Even though it would have been much more powerful to do this last year (when Kucinich refused to do this), even now impeachment should indeed occur if we are still a nation of laws.

But the real, practical political effect of this is to serve as a distraction. Instead of people working to elect candidates who would really serve as allies to Kucinich in the next Congress, instead lots of effort and attention goes to signing silly petitions.

Wow, he presented a petition. I'm quite sure Ms. Pelosi threw it in the trashcan. Probably did it right in front of Kucinich (assuming this actually happened in person), instead of even waiting until he had left for her to show her disdain for this.

But the point is, all of this is meaningles. If you really want this, go work to elect Greens to the Congress. Or work to elect an independent like Cindy Sheehan. Or go work to elect someone like McKinney or Nader as President. Or just work to try to get Nader into the debates where he could at least talk about this in front of the nation.

Those might all be things that might move the cause forward. Kucinich and his motions and petitions is just a silly distraction at this point. In fact, Kucinich has been nothing but a distraction and a diversion of resources all along. And that seems to be the role the Democrats have assigned to him.

The Democrats are indeed a farce. And that includes Kucinich until he gets enough sense to leave that party of evil (albeit it microscopically less evil than the Rethugs).
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