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Ex-Bush Adviser Rove Must Testify In Case That Could Shame White House
Karl Rove, the former trusted adviser to President George Bush, will be compelled to testify on Capitol Hill in a high-profile investigation of alleged political meddling by the White House in decisions made by the US Justice Department.
John Conyers, the chairman of the House judiciary committee, yesterday took the unusual step of issuing a subpoena compelling Mr Rove to testify in a case that threatens to disgrace the Bush government. He had tried in vain for a year to persuade Mr Rove to come forward voluntarily.
The committee is looking into what role the White House may have played in the sacking of nine US attorneys during 2006 - an affair which eventually led to the resignation of Mr Bush's last attorney general, Alberto Gonzalez. Also under scrutiny are the circumstances of the prosecution and subsequent imprisonment of the former governor of Alabama, Don Siegelman.
"This will make Watergate look like child's play when it is fully investigated," Mr Siegelman told an Alabama newspaper last week, referring to his case and the dismissal of the prosecutors. He has repeatedly insisted that the White House, and Mr Rove in particular, was behind his legal woes.
Mr Conyers said he had no choice but to order Mr Rove to appear on Capitol Hill and testify under oath on 10 July. The scandal could prove embarrassing for media organisations who have recently hired Mr Rove as a political commentator, including Fox News and Newsweek.
"It is unfortunate that Mr Rove has failed to co-operate with our requests," Mr Conyers said. "Although he does not seem the least bit hesitant to discuss these very issues weekly on cable television and in the print news media, Mr Rove and his attorney have apparently concluded that a public hearing room would not be appropriate. Unfortunately, I have no choice today but to compel his testimony on these very important matters."
Mr Siegelman was jailed for seven years for allegedly taking bribes while in office. However, he was released two months ago after 52 state attorneys-general came forward asking Congress to investigate whether he was pursued for political reasons.
"I haven't seen a case with this many red flags on it that pointed towards a real injustice being done," Grant Woods, the former Republican attorney general of Arizona, said at the time.
Asked about Mr Rove's reluctance to testify, Mr Siegelman said: "He doesn't want to run the risk of lying under oath and being prosecuted for perjury. I think it's clear he has something to hide."
© 2008 The Independent
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Show AllCan't wait to see that fat slug in front of congress telling his well rehearsed lies. Does Conyers have something on him that will send him to jail? Or perhaps Rove will do a Boris Pugo number and go home and commit suicide rather than serve time. What a cause for celebration that would be!
This is what it's come down to.."shaming the White House. With the immorality, criminality, trashing of the Constitution, lies, deception, tap dancing and GENOCIDE committed under this administration; the best we can hope for is "shaming the White House". Well, the bush DID give up golf (sort of)...I imagine that's enough punishment for the commander-in-slaughterer! You think this will go anywhere?? Puleeaaassseee! Shame? YEAH, SHAME ON US ALL FOR WHAT WE HAVE ALLOWED IN THESE PAST SEVEN AND ONE HALF YEARS!!
somehow i find myself in agreement with bush--as to rove's nickname--"....bloosom". yet it doesn't capture his essence...more of a snorting, fat, piglet.
No need to put him under oath. Just waterboard him. He will be sure to tell the truth. I'd love to watch that on C-SPAN.
"This will make Watergate look like child's play when it's fully investigated." Not quite.
Granted, the Bush administration's vendetta against US Attorneys who declined to toe the partisan line and engage in voter suppression grand jury chicanery for the GOP's benefit prior to the 2004 Congressional elections was shameful, and a sharp break with tradition in terms of respecting independent prosecutorial discretion. But this transgression pales compared to the Federalist Society legalisms and flagrant abuse of DOJ and OLC legal authority that enabled torture, preemptive war, mass detentions without charge or trial, and warrantless domestic wiretapping by the National Security Agency in violation of the FISA felony statute.
Watergate involved the use of CIA black ops boys on American soil to perpetrate burglary and asundry invasions of privacy for narrow, raw partisan gain. The post-2004 election ouster of nine assistant US attorneys deemed insufficiently politically reliable was not a Saturday night massacre, nor even much of a high crime or misdemeanor.
Yes, the purge of career prosecutors was wrong, unfair, and probably unlawful. It should be investigated by Conyers' committee, as should the framing of Governor Seigelman.
But on the grand spectrum of Nixonian and Bush/Cheney illegalities that blatantly trashed fundamental Bill of Rights guarantees, respect for the rule of law, and our Constitution's basic system of checks and balances, to finally hang this scandal on Karl Rove is like sending Al Capone off for his income tax improprieties.
Bill from Saginaw
The problem is that the conservative base considers all of these actions perfectly acceptable, regardless of the rule of law. So what does public opinion matter in the rule of law? Well, it gets supreme court justice "deciders" elected, and thus it gets supreme court justices appointed, and thus it all becomes ok under the sliding scale of justice.
Nothing will come of this because the democrats would be afraid to pursue it out of fear it will come back to haunt them. Or out of fear of their own shadows. OK, because they're gutless, not to mention just as paid for as the republicans.
Where the oil execs "shamed" this week for raping the American consumer and taking in 8 figure salaries by congress?
I'm sure they hung their heads and offered to give 80% of it all to fund alternatives.
Right.... , ....
It's such political theater, acted out to make us believe that where these is some smoke, there must be somewhere, somehow a fire.
It's silly to long for the "good ol' days", but sometimes in the realm of power brokers, I wish this veneer of civil behaviour would give way to men actually decending to their primal roots, and just pull out the knives and put blood on the floor.
No one deserves a dagger through the heart more than Rove, a modern day mix of Joseph Goebbels, Joseph McCarthy and William M. "Boss" Tweed.
Rove has shaped the public sphere in the realm of slash and burn politics; destroy the opposition through dirty innuendo or voter fraud. His influence has poisoned our democracy.
He deserves his upcoming Karma - and if there is any justice, it will happen in this lifetime, so he can be made an example of.
Usborne sez: "Mr Siegelman was jailed for seven years for allegedly taking bribes while in office."
Minor clarification on unclear wording. Siegelman was "sentenced" to seven years in prison. He was jailed for just short of nine months before his release.
That said, Turd Blossom may well appear before the committee, and he may even open his mouth and issue noise. But the nation will get "testimony" from this guy when Roves fly.
Hey, it's a start! Remembering Watergate, it started with the investigation of a "third-rate burglary" and unravelled the whole sweater of the Nixon administration.
Conyers, you are a patriot! I wanna sees you NAIL his ass!
Rove will just conveniently forget everything in the same way Alberto Gonzalez did and be let go. Does anyone really think these guys care whether or not they lie to Congress at this point? He's probably looking forward to it so he can show how powerless they really are.
Keep on DANCING TO BUSH (AND HIS UNDERLINGS') FIDDLING, Great American Public. "Everything's really OK . . . all this supposed back ground noise is just political" . . . .
Maybe we should pray about it. . . that's right . . . Ask the Governor of GA who had a prayer-meeting on the State Capital Steps, FOR RAIN.
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JUST TORRENTS OF BULLSHIT FROM EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL AND PREACHER IN THE US
Why waste time? Just so Congress can brag and lie about how busy and devoted they are? That is bull shit, and what they will hear from Rove will be bull shit and they know it.
Congress, stand up and go home. We will replace you with the first 435 people who walk by a certain landmark and install them as our new Congress. They would be better than what we have. Nothing could be worse.
There's one small difference between this and Watergate. The Nixon insiders talked (or sang) during the Watergate Senate hearings, and the House Judiciary Committee had enough probable cause to vote articles of impeachment. But with Rove and the Bush gang, they learned the lessons of Watergate and will shut up tight like a clam. We've seen the lies and stonewalling during testimony of Haynes, Rice, Fredo Gonzales, et. al., and the Dems just go ahead and fold up the tent. There was honor among thieves back then and Nixon, in hindsight, displayed some semblance of honor in resigning and ending the "long nightmare". But Bush? There's no such thing as honor there, no conscience, no scruples, just pure evil. Same thing with Rove. So, good luck Mr. Conyers.
Rove has committed Treason - that is a Capital crime - Hang him ! along with his Bosses... Bush & Cheney - to the gallows with these treasonous bastards.
Hang him high...
Rope the dopes and let em swing!
No matter what the outcome, at last Congress is demanding accountability, something that they should have done years ago. Karl Rove is in many, many ways responsible for the divisions in this country. Some could call what he has done to us to get his click elected treason. I concur and suggest that he be deported, not worthy of being called an American.
I'll believe it when I see it, and then maybe not. On the outside chance they get him to appear, AND under oath, be sure to ask him if he or anyone he is aware of had prior knowledge of ANY of the events of 9-11. Calling Rove a turd blossom gives s#&t a bad name.
"Turd Blossom" will suddenly become short of memory and will be "unable to recall," just as a previous poster said. If he can take the 5th, he will also do that to cover up.
The guy needs to fix everyone else's election into office because he would be too disgusting to ever be elected to any worthy public post except maybe at his backwards high school in '65.
Treason against the People(the real government) is a most dishonourable crime.
It always amazes me how people who hold high public offices have such rotten memories. It's a wonder they can remember how to tie their shoes. Still, at least the questions are being asked. Maybe.
To paraphrase someone else: you can always depend on Congress to do the right thing, when they have exhausted all other possibilities.
Mark Twain on Congress:
It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.
- Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar
Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a Congressman can.
- What Is Man?
...the smallest minds and the selfishest souls and the cowardliest hearts that God makes.
- Letter fragment, 1891
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
- Mark Twain, a Biography
Congressman is the trivialist distinction for a full grown man.
- Notebook #14, 11/1877 - 7/1878
All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.
- Mark Twain's Autobiography; also in Mark Twain in Eruption
The lightning there is peculiar; it is so convincing, that when it strikes a thing it doesn't leave enough of that thing behind for you to tell whether--Well, you'd think it was something valuable, and a Congressman had been there.
- Mark Twain's Speeches, "The Weather"
It is the foreign element that commits our crimes. There is no native criminal class except Congress.
- More Maxims of Mark, Johnson, 1927
Whiskey is carried into committee rooms in demijohns and carried out in demagogues.
- Notebook, 1868
...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman.
- "Foster's Case", New York Tribune, 3/10/1873
I'd like to see him squirm, but it will never happen. Bush has suckled on Rove's teat for too long just to let him spill the beans. As for Congress, we hear their words and know that they mean absolutely nothing.
The Israelis brought down Nixon. He was secretly aligning himself with Saudi King Feisal in an attempt to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict once and for all. Nixon even told Feisal that if the Israelis and their American Lobby continued to frustrate his attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, that he was prepared to tear up his prepared State-of-the-Union speech and go live on national television and radio explaining to the American public how Israel and the American Israeli lobby were the real obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Nixon also made up "lists" of top Jews in the U.S. government and was in the process of bringing various agencies directly under his control from the White House, which would have destroyed the reigning Washington establishment. Nixon, just like JFK before him, was involved in a secret war with Israel.
There can be no comparisons made between Nixon's Watergate and this current debacle. Rove represents the Israelis. In fact, Congress, for the most part, also represents the Israelis. This is all smoke and mirrors to convince the American public to keep working and shopping...that hope springs eternal.
Rove and the truth are but nodding acquaintances. This will not be easy. Remember that GOP boast "we create the reality". That is an article of faith for the GOP.
Far too little and far too late. This is nothing more or less than an election ploy.
I agree with previous posters that Rove will suffer a convenient case of amnesia just as Gonzales did. The key will be whether Congress will have the stones to refuse to allow the "I don't recall" BS that Rove will dish out.
I am disconsolate to believe that the proof of all the crimes of the Bush administration will not be revealed until W is out of office. At least then a book can be written about it. After all, W's presidential library will need another book besides "My Pet Goat."
This is what happens when the nerds who get made fun of in highschool suddenly obtain ridiculous amounts of power as adults you get twisted people like Karl Rove. I say we should end highschool bullying.
"He had tried in vain for a year to persuade Mr Rove to come forward voluntarily."
Why?
Hang Em' High! I really don't think there are too many people on the Hill that has the people's true interests at heart. Really dishearting to me..our so called government.
ROVE DESERVES NO LESS THAN THE THE FATE OF JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG!