Public opinion polls have consistently shown that the majority of Americans - and even a larger majority of Democrats - believe that Iraq is the most important issue of the day, that it was wrong for the United States to have invaded that country, and the United States should completely withdraw its forces in short order. Despite this, the clear front-runner for the Democratic Party nomination for president is Senator Hillary Clinton, a strident backer of the invasion who only recently and opportunistically began to criticize the war and call for a partial withdrawal of American forces.
As a result, it is important to review Senator Clinton's past and current positions regarding the Iraq War. Indeed, despite her efforts in response to public opinion polls to come across as an opponent of the war, Hillary Clinton has proven to be one of the most hard-line Democratic senators in support of a military response to the challenges posed by Iraq. She has also been less than honest in justifying her militaristic policies, raising concerns that she might support military interventions elsewhere.
Pre-War Militarism
Senator Clinton's militaristic stance on Iraq predated her support for Bush's 2003 invasion. For example, in defending the brutal four-day U.S. bombing campaign against Iraq in December 1998 - known as Operation Desert Fox - she claimed that "[T]he so-called presidential palaces ... in reality were huge compounds well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by UN resolution to turn over. When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left." In reality, as became apparent when UN inspectors returned in 2002 as well as in the aftermath of the invasion and occupation, there were no weapons labs, stocks of weapons or missing records in these presidential palaces. In addition, Saddam was still allowing for virtually all inspections to go forward at the time of the 1998 U.S. attacks. The inspectors were withdrawn for their own safety at the encouragement of President Clinton in anticipation of the imminent U.S.-led assault.
Senator Clinton also took credit for strengthening U.S. ties with Ahmad Chalabi, the convicted embezzler who played a major role in convincing key segments of the administration, Congress, the CIA, and the American public that Iraq still had proscribed weapons, weapons systems, and weapons labs. She has expressed pride that her husband's administration changed underlying U.S. policy toward Iraq from "containment" - which had been quite successful in defending Iraq's neighbors and protecting its Kurdish minority - to "regime change," which has resulted in tragic warfare, chaos, dislocation, and instability.
Prior to the 2003 invasion, Clinton insisted that Iraq still had a nuclear program, despite a detailed 1998 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), subsequent studies that indicated that Iraq's nuclear program appeared to have been completely dismantled a full decade earlier, and a 2002 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate that made no mention of any reconstituted nuclear development effort. Similarly, even though Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs had been dismantled years earlier, she also insisted that Iraq had rebuilt its biological and chemical weapons stockpiles. And, even though the limited shelf life of such chemical and biological agents and the strict embargo against imports of any additional banned materials that had been in place since 1990 made it physically impossible for Iraq to have reconstituted such weapons, she insisted that "It is clear...that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
In the fall of 2002, Senator Clinton sought to discredit those questioning Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice-President Dick Cheney, and others who were making hyperbolic statements about Iraq's supposed military prowess by insisting that Iraq's possession of such weapons "are not in doubt" and was "undisputed." Similarly, Clinton insisted that Secretary of State Colin Powell's February 2005 speech at the UN was "compelling" although UN officials and arms control experts roundly denounced its false claims that Iraq had reconstituted these proscribed weapons, weapons programs, and delivery systems. In addition, although top strategic analysts correctly informed her that there were no links between Saddam Hussein's secular nationalist regime and the radical Islamist al-Qaeda, Senator Clinton insisted that Saddam "has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members."
The Lead-Up to War
Though the 2003 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq was inaccurate in a number of respects, it did challenge the notion of any operational ties between the Iraqi government and Al-Qaeda and questioned some of the more categorical claims by President Bush about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMD). However, Senator Clinton didn't even bother to read it. She now claims that it wasn't necessary for her to have actually read the 92-page document herself because she was briefed on the contents of the report. However, since no one on her staff was authorized to read the report, it's unclear who could have actually briefed her.
During the floor debate over the resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq, Clinton was the only Democratic senator to have categorically accepted the Bush administration's claims regarding Iraq's alleged chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs, Iraq's alleged long-range missile capabilities, and alleged ties to al-Qaeda. (Some Democratic senators accepted some of those claims, but not all of them.)
In the months leading up the war, Senator Clinton chose to ignore the pleas of the hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating in her state and across the country against the war and similarly brushed off calls by religious leaders, scholars, community activists, and others to oppose it. Perhaps most significant was her refusal to consider the anti-war appeals by leaders of the Catholic Church and virtually every mainline Protestant denomination, which noted that it did not meet the traditional criteria in the Christian tradition for a just war. Instead, Senator Clinton embraced the arguments of the right-wing fundamentalist leadership who supported the war. This categorical rejection of the perspective of the mainstream Christian community raises concerns about her theological perspectives on issues of war and peace.
In March 2003, well after UN weapons inspectors had been allowed to return and engage in unfettered inspections and were not finding any WMDs, Senator Clinton made clear that the United States should invade that Iraq anyway. Indeed, she asserted that the only way to avoid war would be for Saddam Hussein to abide by President Bush's ultimatum to resign as president and leave the country, in the apparent belief that the United States had the right to unilaterally make such demands of foreign leaders and to invade and occupy their countries if they refused. Said Senator Clinton, "The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly."
When President Bush launched the invasion soon thereafter and spontaneous protests broke out across the country, Senator Clinton voted in favor of a Republican-sponsored resolution that "commends and supports the efforts and leadership of the President . . . in the conflict against Iraq."
Aftermath of invasion
Even after the U.S. forces invaded and occupied Iraq and confirmed that - contrary to Senator Clinton's initial justification for the war - Iraq did not have WMDs, WMD programs, offensive delivery systems, or ties to al-Qaeda, she defended her vote to authorize the invasion anyway. Speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York that December, she declared, "I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, to use force against Saddam Hussein. I believe that that was the right vote" and was one that "I stand by."
In the face of growing doubts about American forces involved in a deepening counter-insurgency war, she urged "patience" and expressed her concern about the lack of will "to stay the course" among some Americans. "Failure is not an option" in Iraq, she insisted. "We have no option but to stay involved and committed." Indeed, long before President Bush announced his "surge," Senator Clinton called for the United States to send more troops.
During a trip to Iraq in February 2005, she insisted that the U.S. occupation was "functioning quite well," although the security situation had deteriorated so badly that the four-lane divided highway on flat open terrain connecting the airport with the capital could not be secured at the time of her arrival and a helicopter had to transport her to the Green Zone. Though 55 Iraqis and one American soldier were killed during her brief visit, she insisted - in a manner remarkably similar to Vice President Cheney - that the rise in suicide bombings was evidence that the insurgency was failing.
On NBC's "Meet the Press" that same month, she argued that it "would be a mistake" to immediately withdraw U.S. troops or even simply set a timetable for withdrawal, claiming that "We don't want to send a signal to insurgents, to the terrorists, that we are going to be out of here at some, you know, date certain." Less than two years ago, she declared, "I reject a rigid timetable that the terrorists can exploit." And, just last year, on an appearance on ABC's Nightline, she described how "I've taken a lot of heat from my friends who have said, 'Please, just, you know, throw in the towel and say let's get out by a date certain. I don't think that's responsible." When Representative John Murtha made his first call for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq in November 2005, she denounced his effort, calling a withdrawal of U.S. forces "a big mistake."
As recently as last year, when Senator John Kerry sponsored an amendment that would have required the redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq in order to advance a political solution to the growing sectarian strife, she voted against it.
Rewriting History
Senator Clinton has never apologized for her vote to authorize the invasion. She insists that her eagerness for the United States to invade Iraq had nothing to do with its vast petroleum reserves. Like President Bush, she claims that she did not lie about her false accusations about Iraq's weapons programs. She says she was misled by faulty intelligence, though she has refused to make public this intelligence that she claims demonstrated that Iraq had somehow reconstituted its WMD.
Senator Clinton has also claimed that Bush - at the time of the resolution authorizing the invasion - had misled her regarding his intention to pursue diplomacy instead of rushing into war. But there was nothing in the war resolution that required him to pursue any negotiations. She has tried to emphasize that she voted in favor of an unsuccessful amendment by Senator Byrd "which would have limited the original authorization to one year." However, this resolution actually meant very little, since it gave President Bush the authority to extend the war authorization "for a period or periods of 12 months each" if he determined that it was "necessary for ongoing or impending military operations against Iraq."
Despite the fact that Iraq had several weeks prior to the October 2002 vote already agreed unconditionally to allow UN inspectors to return, she categorically insisted that her vote "was a necessary step in order to maximize the outcome that did occur in the Security Council with the unanimous vote to send in inspectors."
She has also subsequently claimed that her vote "was clearly intended to demonstrate support for going to the United Nations to put inspectors into Iraq" and was "not a vote for pre-emptive war." The record shows, however, that Senator Clinton voted against an amendment by Senator Carl Levin that would have allowed for U.S. military action to disarm Iraq of any weapons of mass destruction and weapons systems pursuant to any future UN Security Council resolution authorizing such military actions, which would presumably have taken place had Iraq not allowed the inspectors back in as promised. In other words, she not only was willing to ignore U.S. obligations under the UN Charter that forbids such unilateral military actions by its member states, she tacitly acknowledged that she was unconcerned about supporting UN efforts to bring inspectors back into the country. Indeed, in her floor speech, she warned that this vote "says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed" and the resolution that she did support clearly authorizes President Bush to invade Iraq at the time and circumstances of his own choosing, regardless of whether inspectors were allowed to return to Iraq and regardless of whether the Bush administration received UN support.
Senator Clinton has never criticized the Bush administration for its flagrant violation of the UN Charter or its responsibility for the deaths of the tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. She has limited her criticism to the way the administration handled the invasion, implying that, as president, she would do invasions better. Indeed, she insisted that while not regretting her vote to authorize the invasion, she did regret "the way the president used the authority."
Senator Clinton has criticized the administration for not acting to gain more international support for the invasion, ignoring the fact that they actually had tried very hard to do so but failed. The Bush administration was unable to get authorization for the use of force from the UN or, with the exception of Great Britain, to get any substantial troop support from other countries not because they didn't try, but because the vast majority of the international community recognized that an invasion of Iraq was illegal and unnecessary.
Current Policy
A careful look at her current policy toward Iraq reveals that Senator Clinton is not as anti-war as her supporters depict her.
She would withdraw some troops, just as President Bush has been promising to do eventually, but insists that the United States should maintain its "military as well as political mission" in Iraq for the indefinite future for such purposes as countering Iranian influence, protecting the Kurdish minority, preventing a failed state, and supporting the Iraqi military. On ABC's "This Week" in September, she insisted that "withdrawing is dangerous. It has to be done responsibly, prudently, carefully, but we have said that there will be a likely continuing mission against al-Qaeda in Iraq. We have to protect our civilian employees, our embassy that will be there."
If Senator Clinton were really concerned about the threat that al-Qaeda currently poses in Iraq, however, she would never have voted to authorize the invasion, which led to the predictable rise of al-Qaeda and other militant groups in that country. Similarly, there would not be the huge embassy complex nor would there be tens of thousands of civilian employees she insists that U.S. troops are necessary to defend if the United States had not invaded Iraq in the first place. In addition, only because the United States overthrew the stridently secular anti-Iranian regime of Saddam Hussein has Iran gained such influence. And since the risks of a collapse of Iraq's internal security was one of the main arguments presented to her prior to her vote, Clinton should not have voted to authorize the invasion if a failed state was really a concern for hers.
Since most estimates of the numbers of troops needed to carry out these tasks range between 40,000 and 75,000, the best that can be hoped for under a Hillary Clinton presidency is that she would withdraw only about one-half to two-thirds of American combat forces within a year or so of her assuming office. Indeed, she has explicitly refused to promise, if elected president, to withdraw troops by the end of her term in 2013. As Senator Clinton describes, it, "What we can do is to almost take a line sort of north of, between Baghdad and Kirkuk, and basically put our troops into that region - the ones that are going to remain for our anti-terrorism mission; for our northern support mission; for our ability to respond to the Iranians; and to continue to provide support, if called for, for the Iraqis." This hardly constitutes a withdrawal.
Senator Clinton tries to downplay the risk of keeping U.S. forces bogged down indefinitely by emphasizing that she would put greater emphasis on training the Iraqi armed forces. But much of the Iraqi armed forces are more loyal to their respective sectarian militias than they are to protecting Iraq as a whole. Nor has she expressed much concern that the Iraqi armed forces and police have engaged in gross and systematic human rights abuses. As with her backing of unconditional military assistance and security training to scores of other allied governments that engage in a pattern of gross and systematic human rights violations, she appears unconcerned not only with the immorality of such a policy but the long-term strategic risks from the blowback that would result from the United States becoming identified with repressive regimes.
Little Difference from Bush
As her record indicates, Senator Clinton's position on Iraq differs very little from that of President Bush. For her to receive the nomination for president would in effect be an endorsement by the Democratic Party of the Iraq war.
In 2004, the Democrats selected a nominee who also voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq, falsely claimed that Iraq still had WMDs, and - at that time - insisted on maintaining U.S. troops in that country. As a result, Senator John Kerry failed to mobilize the party's anti-war base and went down to defeat. What timid concerns Kerry did raise about President Bush's handling of the Iraq war during the campaign were used by the Bush campaign to focus attention away from the war itself and highlight the Democratic nominee's changing positions. Had the Democrats instead nominated someone who had opposed the war from the beginning, the debate that fall would have been not about Senator Kerry's supposed "flip-flopping" but the tragic decision to illegally invade a country on the far side of the world that was no threat to us and the squandering of American lives and tax dollars that have resulted.
If the Democrats select another war supporter as their nominee in 2008, the result may well be the same as 2004. Large numbers of people will refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee as part of a principled stance against voting for someone who authorized and subsequently supported the Iraq war. And Republicans will highlight the Democratic nominee's shifting positions on Iraq as evidence that their opponent is simply an opportunistic politician rather than the kind of decisive leader the country needs.
Stephen Zunes is Middle East editor for Foreign Policy In Focus. He is a professor of Politics at the University of San Francisco and the author of Tinderbox: U.S. Middle East Policy and the Roots of Terrorism (Common Courage Press, 2003.)
Copyright © 2007, Institute for Policy Studies
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35 Comments so far
Show AllWmC, do you miss Molly as much as me? If people would have
only read what she had to say about Bush maybe he would
be selling insurance in Crawford. (He would probably fail
at that.)
That's right, seriousprofessor
So, BOYCOTT ELECTIONS '08!!
Nader2000, you are confusing "getting everything" with getting the opposite of what one wants, needs, and, in the above case, expects.
One more time: being compelled to support candidates and positions that are diametrically opposed to one's beliefs makes electoral politics a farce.
seriousprofessor,
I did not claim that if some of us did more or less what I recommended that they would always get what they wanted. What I claimed was that this is still the best strategy for all of us to get as much of what we want as we possibly can.
Organized labor certainly did not get everything it wanted during the Clinton presidency, even when Democrats held a majority in Congress. Maybe if it had been supported by the kind of strong grassroots organization, nationwide, that the Greens and Reds like to pretend they are going to create to carry them to victory, then it would have been more successful.
Maybe if such a strong, progressive-led grassroots organization existed, it would have been able to change the face of the Democratic Party. I have not been saying we should just support "the Democrats", I've been saying we should choose the Democrats. Clinton would not have been my first choice for president, and most of the Congressional Democrats would not have been my first choices.
Then again, maybe a strong, progressive-led, nationwide grassroots organization is just a pipe dream. But that's what the Greens and Reds are counting on creating, somehow. Their version of it would need to be much, much stronger in order to have any influence at all on policy. My approach would begin to have real influence at a much lower level of strength.
In fact, such organizations already exist, and do have influence. But if you are thinking big, and really want to change politics in this country, you should be thinking of uniting people behind a progressive front that is committed to working through the Democratic Party; in fact, Progressive Democrats of America is a good start in this direction (and should be merged with DFA and similar groups).
One didn't have to be an expert on intelligence, Al Qaeda, WMD's, Saddam, or current events in the Middle East to know that authorizing Dumbya to use force was a bad idea. One only had to read Molly Ivins' columns . . .occasionally.
Nader2000, I don't know whether you're still reading the comments here. If you wish to continue this exchange, we may need to shift it elsewhere.
Your claim that your strategy has not been tried is false. One need only look at the Clinton administration to test your hypothesis. With a Democrat in office, organized labor in particular led the fight for specific policies and was certainly supported by "the left." I refer not only to NAFTA but also to the bill to ban permanent replacement of strikers (probably SB5/HB55). This fight was taken to both Congress and the executive. It was the strategy you advocate, occurring under the most "favorable" conditions: Democratic control of the legislative and executive branches.
If, on the other hand, you argue that a lack of success is evidence of failure to try your strategy, then you would be guilty of a logical fallacy called "victory by definition."
I'm not voting for HC against Yellow Dog. To understand how somebody as obviously intelligent as HC can have been "misled" by Bush, or have "misunderstood" the intelligence reports that, mirabile dictu! All of here seemed to have had access to through various forums like this one, read carefully especially the first and last chapters of "Hegemony or Survival" by Noam Chomsky, and also read "Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein. As David Bowman says in "2001, a Space Odyssey," it will then all be horribly and plainly clear to you. I'll vote for Kucinich at every stage, I'll walk for Kucinich prior to the primaries, and I'll write in Kucinich in the general. The only guy out there who is even CLOSE to being with us is John Edwards. He is the only one of the likely nominees who I can support. Obama is problematical on unstinting support for NAFTA, CAFTA and the like. So in the general it's Edwards or write in Kucinich, even if the dem is running against either of the religious nutjobs Romney or Huckabee. If the rethugs win this time in 2008, I don't think the country can long continue to exist in its present form, it will start to fall apart from discord, perhaps doing a Soviet Union number. Especially, as seems ever more likely, we come in for an economic shock of scope comparable to the Depression. Don't count on another forward thinker like FDR then riding to save our bacon from the Greedmongers who live within the darkness of Wall Street, sending out their Nine Ringwraiths, led by such as the chairmen of the Federal Reserve. Praise be to Steven Zunes and others who, despite long odds, keep trying to get these important messages out into the otherwise desolate media environment we now find ourselves in.
seriousprofessor, the answer to your question, if it is not clear enough in my previous reply, is that the strategy I call for has not been tried in the past 30 years.
I don't mean that some people haven't tried, but the Left en masse needs to do this. Instead, over the past generation the Left grew disenchanted with electoral politics and then intoxicated itself with the pipedreams of Nader, the Greens and Reds. American politics over the past 30 years is not the consequence of following my strategy. I wish we knew how it would have worked.
I am pretty sure it would have worked. I can't prove that, unfortunately. But I am completely sure that a third-party strategy cannot work in our electoral system, and the reasons are plain enough for anyone to see.
Nader2000, I appreciate your coherent comments, but you still are not answering my question.
I understand well what your position is. That did not need clarification.
seriousprofessor-
I have argued that the electoral strategy for the Left must be to work through the Democratic Party. Supporting the Party's nominees (in almost all cases) is only one part of that strategy.
By itself, supporting the Party's nominees with no further action would lead to exactly the syndromes charged by the pied pipers of Nader and third parties: immobilization, marginalization and being taken for granted by Party hacks in the service of corporate and conservative constituencies.
That's why working through the Democratic Party does not mean supporting "the Democrats" but rather, participating in the process of choosing "the Democrats" (who are nominated for office), pressuring "the Democrats" (who hold office), organizing and mobilizing voters independently of the DNC, DCC and other Party-controlled bodies, and working directly on issues, confronting power and joining in popular struggles.
We must recognize that the two-party system is a permanent feature of our electoral structure, and therefore the only coherent electoral strategy for the Left is to work through the party that is closest to us. However, we must equally recognize that to work effectively through the Democratic Party requires active engagement, organizing independently of the Party and playing hardball within its internal arena, just like any other constituency group does that is successful in having real influence in this country's politics and policy.
kudos to Zunes for an excellent article. But I would add that HC voted in favor of the Lieberman-Kyl amendment and then received millions of dollars from the military-industrial complex for her stance. That is why the Conservative media has anointed her the certain-to-be Democratic nominee.
So sorry. If Hilary is the Democrat nominee for president, I will be pricing Canadian real estate while voting Green.
Great article by Mr. Zunes.
sstoan; I see you've done your homework. It's unbelievable how people still believe the lies of the Clinton Administration regarding Yugoslavia. Michael Parenti's book, 'To Kill A Nation', sums it up.
Hmmm...let me see...Hitler attacks Poland on false claims. Clinton attacks Yugoslavia on false claims. Bush attacks Iraq on false claims. Hillery Clinton backs George W. Bush on his false claims on everything...hmm.
Please vote for Kucinich in the primaries and on election day. Write his name on your ballot even if he is not listed. By the way, I called the Iowa newspaper voicing my concern about Dennis not being on the debate and was given a bogus reason. So much for democracy in America.
"...that's the first time I've been attacked by another poster in a CD comments thread before I've even entered a comment!"
FYI - no, it's not.
Perhaps it would be better to leave the fascists at the helm as the ship of state runs full-speed onto the rocks? It is probably too late to change course, anyway. Better they should get the credit.
One could also argue that any dem, however compromised, would do less damage, maybe even put down some life boats.
But as awful as they are the Republikans could still win. Have you noticed that "ordinary folks", even when they oppose the bush wars, have been seduced by the newest version of the "Welfare Queen" gambit? The Republikan candidate will condemn those brown-skinned illegals who are enjoying social services without paying taxes. Fence the borders, round them up and send them home.
Maybe the best thing to do would be to abandon ship before we hit the rocks. But where to go? North or South?
After all the years Sen. Clinton has been in public life, I do not know for sure a single firmly-held principle she adheres to on anything. She is a product of her times in this regard, I'll grant her that. She is no different from John Kerry, and (sadly) the Al Gore who ran for president. On the other hand, GOP candidates usually at least announce their "core" principles (pretty much all of them things with which I disagree). What a state of affairs.
Okay, I'll give them all this: they all have the one, unshakable, unalterable, notion to which all others are subservient--they want to be president.
Bottom line: I will not vote for Sen. Clinton. If she is nominated, we'll have another GOP jerk in the White House (one for whom I also did not vote). I'm not going to use up the carbon to go to the polling place for her or them.
to those who are planning to boycott the election if kucinich miraculously doesn't win the nomination:
don't do it. please show up and write him in. silence is consent.
to Nader2000:
george h.w. bush and his co-conspirators put george w. bush into office, along with all those registered dems who voted rep. then al gore, when offered a chance to save face, his election, and the country, rolled over and went limp. despicable.
Nader2000, a straw man is not an answer.
Answer my question, without diversion, without dishonesty.
How's Nader and the Greens, and all the little Red Marxist vanguard parties worked out?
Ralph Nader and his co-conspirators put George W. Bush in the White House over Al Gore, and the net evil thus done outweighs all the good Nader ever did in his life a thousand times over.
Seriously, professor, the world burns while you fiddle.
"If their decision is to nominate Clinton, I will be ready to support her, for the simple reason that the Republican alternative is going to be worse."
How has that strategy been workin' out for ya this past generation? I've asked you before, yet somehow not received an answer.
Hillary gives ambition a bad name.
Electing Hillary Clinton will only mean having a female version of Bush in the White House for 4-8 more years. Barack Obama claims Joseph Lieberman as his "mentor." All of the top Democratic candidates, which are heavily funded and supported by corporate America, are also completely unacceptable to progressive voters. We will not be suckered into voting for them in 2008. Sorry DLC hacks.
Wow... that's the first time I've been attacked by another poster in a CD comments thread before I've even entered a comment! Guess I must be having some kind of an impact... who knows?
Stephen Zunes is a fine scholar on foreign policy issues but apparently lacks an understanding of the realities of electoral politics in this country, because he fails to espouse any rational, workable strategy for moving US foreign or domestic policy in a more progressive direction through action at the electoral level. Instead, I guess he is committed to the Green Party or some other pipedream, because it seems every other op-ed he turns out is basically an attack piece against "the Democrats."
I find most (or maybe all) of what he tells us about Hillary's record distasteful in the extreme, and I hope she is not the Democratic nominee.
But that decision is going to be made, let's be clear, by the Democratic VOTERS in the very near future.
If their decision is to nominate Clinton, I will be ready to support her, for the simple reason that the Republican alternative is going to be worse.
Hillary Clinton, for all her complicity in Bush's crimes, would not have invaded Iraq, had she been president. As a senator, she had a choice between blowing in the wind, and standing against it. She chose the former, as did almost half of the Democrats in Congress. You and I can condemn that, but it may yet turn out to have been the path that leads to the White House. We'll see.
Thank you for writing this!!!!!
This is amazing!!!! Get this out in the New York Times Now!!!!!!
They suckered us with Kerry, and we voted for him. If they give us Clinton--we will not vote.
@freefallen December 12th, 2007 4:56 pm
And why would they hold Saddam accountable, given that he and Al Queida did not get on with each other? The only answers that I can think would be the de-privatised Oil and trading using the Euro.
How do we explain Sen. Clinton's views on Iraq? I think we have to start with a press conference given by President George H. W. Bush in January of 1991. When asked about the possibility of terrorist attacks against the U.S. in response to the U.S.-led anticipated removal of Iraqi forces from Kuwait, President George H. W. Bush said that he was indeed concerned about terrorism, but that Saddam Hussein would be held personally responsible for any such attacks.
The evidence suggsts that this has been U.S. policy ever since. Which might just explain why Sen. Clinton did not need to read the intelligence. (Of course, Bill may have briefed her, too, if he was getting briefed the way ex-presidents often are.)
In which case, the WMD talk was just a pretext, designed to make a blind, tit-for-tat policy of retribution more palatable, especially to the American public.
One cannot help but notice that President Bill Clinton bombed Iraq in November of 1998 only after the bin Laden-led terrorist attacks in August, outside the U.S Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Already, was the U.S. holding Saddam personally responsible for terrorist strikes against the U.S.?
I am not surprised that Hillary has never been able to disavow the philosophical assumptions under which Bush invaded Iraq since her own husband used an almost identical modus operandi in attacking Yugoslavia in 1999. He launched a war against a country that had not attacked us, had not threatened us, was not engaging in terrorist activity against us, had not attacked any of our NATO allies, and had not violated any international borders. He launched this "war of choice" without UN authorization, in violation of the Geneva Conventions, using his own "coalition of the willing," because he wanted to bring about regime change in Yugoslavia. He had even authorized the CIA to encourage, arm, and train the KLA to rebel against Yugoslavia, then claimed massive genocide that proved to be a complete fabrication once UN inspectors were able to go into Kosovo after the war. They found 4,000 bodies, half of them Serbs and virtually all of them males of military age. The so called Racak Massacre was later shown to have been staged. The parallels between Clinton in Yugoslavia and Bush in Iraq are nearly absolute. The Clintons have the same view of American exceptionalism as George Bush and are equally willing to fabricate reasons for war. How can Hillary condemn George?
hillary is a hosebag...
Daniel Patrick Moynihan dead is a better senator that HRC alive.
No pro-war Democrat deserves our vote at local, state, or national level. They will never get the message if we keep running the straddle-the fence likes of John Kerry or Hillary Clinton who will certainly loose for the reasons given. Even if they win, what would change? We would still be mired down in Iraq spending 75 soldier's lives a month and 12 billion dollars. Not much of a bargain.
As I keep saying.. the true progressives have to leave the democratic party, which doesn't even pretend to represent what used to be its core values.
The we have to figure out how to effectively bypass the MSM to get our message out. According to the polls, they're ready to hear it, no?
Ugh. Clinton ignored the hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers who put her in office who were out protesting on a freezing February in 2003...claiming she believed the intelligence...so many of us KNEW we were being lied to, that there was no "evidence." Argh. Maybe she's just dumb.
Anyway, I just heard that Dennis Kucinich has been excluded from the debate on Thursday, 12/13, that is being sponsored by the Des Moines Register supposedly because his campaign organizer there works out of his house and doesn't have an office (it really is a crime in this country not to have money). Anyway, I wrote to the newspaper and called CSPAN to register my extreme displeasure at this undemocratic exclusion. Please do the same to support the one candidate who did indeed vote against the war from the beginning.
This is damning, but, but, but, she is better than them!!!
So, Nader2000 and other party hacks would have us believe.
Thank you, Steve.
Great essay. I'm giving it to everyone I know.
-Cyndi