Scott McClellan's admission that he unintentionally made false statements denying the involvement of Karl Rove and Scooter Libby in the Bush-Cheney administration's plot to discredit former Ambassador Joe Wilson, along with his revelation that Vice President Cheney and President Bush were among those who provided him with the misinformation, sets the former White House press secretary as John Dean to George Bush's Richard Nixon.
It was Dean's willingness to reveal the details of what described as "a cancer" on the Nixon presidency that served as a critical turning point in the struggle by a previous Congress to hold the 37th president to account.
Now, McClellan has offered what any honest observer must recognize as the stuff of a similarly significant breakthrough.
The only question is whether the current Congress is up to the task of holding the 43rd president to account.
What McClellan has revealed, in a section from an upcoming book on his tenure in the Bush-Cheney White House, is a stunning indictment of the president and the vice president. The former press secretary is confirming that Bush and Cheney not only knew that Rove, the administration's political czar, and Libby, who served as Cheney's top aide, were involved in the scheme to attack Wilson's credibility -- by outing the former ambassador's wife, Valerie Plame, as a Central Intelligence Agency analyst -- but that the president and vice president actively engaged in efforts to prevent the truth from coming out.
"The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby," writes McClellan in an excerpt from his book, What Happened, which is to be published next April by Public Affairs.
"There was one problem," the long-time Bush aide continues. "It was not true. I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration "were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."
Much has been made about the fact that outing Plame as a CIA operative was a felony, since knowingly revealing the identity of an intelligence asset is illegal. And much will be made about the fact that McClellan's statement links Bush and Cheney to the cover-up of illegal activities and the obstruction of justice, acts that are themselves felonies.
But it is important to recognize that a bigger issue is at stake. If the president and vice president knowingly participated in a scheme to attack a critic of their administration -- Wilson had revealed that the White House had been informed that arguments Bush and Cheney used for attacking Iraq were ungrounded -- they have committed a distinct sort of offense that the House Judiciary Committee has already determined to be grounds for impeachment.
In the summer of 1974, Democrats and Republicans on the committee voted overwhelmingly to recommend the impeachment of President Richard Nixon for having "repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies."
That second article of impeachment against Nixon detailed the president's involvement in schemes to use the power of his position to attack political critics and then to cover up for those attacks.
The current chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Michigan Democrat John Conyers, voted for the impeachment of Nixon on those grounds.
Conyers and his colleagues need to recognize that, despite House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's aversion to presidential accountability, McClellan's statement demands the sort of inquiry and action that Dean's statements regarding Nixon demanded three decades ago.
As former Common Cause President Chellie Pingree notes with regard to Bush, "The president promised, way back in 2003, that anyone in his administration who took part in the leak of Plame's name would be fired. He neglected to mention that, according to McClellan, he was one of those people. And needless to say, he didn't fire himself. Instead, he fired no one, stonewalled the press and the federal prosecutor in charge of the case, and lied through his teeth."
Pingree, a savvy government watchdog who is bidding for an open House seat representing her native Maine, argues that the Judiciary Committee must subpoena McClellan as part of a renewed investigation of the Wilson case.
She is right about that.
She is right, as well, when she concludes that, if what McClellan says is true "it will call into question the legitimacy of the entire administration. And we may see a changing of the guard at the White House sooner than expected."
That changing of the guard -- via the Constitutional process of impeachment and trial for their various and sundry high crimes and misdemeanor -- is long overdue.
John Nichols' new book is The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism. Rolling Stone's Tim Dickinson hails it as a "nervy, acerbic, passionately argued history-cum-polemic [that] combines a rich examination of the parliamentary roots and past use of the 'heroic medicine' that is impeachment with a call for Democratic leaders to 'reclaim and reuse the most vital tool handed to us by the founders for the defense of our most basic liberties.'"
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Show AllIt's true -- Valerie Plame was running a covert operation to trace and prevent nuclear weapons from getting into the wrong hands and it's been rumored that she stopped BushCo from 'importing' WMD into Iraq to justify the invasion.
Hi ECON TRUCK,
Saw Valerie & hubby on Bill Maher's show, where she disclosed that she was actually going to re-inforce the gov't WMD idea, as that was the best evidence that she particularly had (at that time), until she was outed.
After that, she really didn't see eye-to-eye with the shrub.
Namaste
We continue to hear the theme that the administration outed Valerie Plame in order to "get back at" Joseph Wilson for exposing the fraudulent uranium claims of the administration. Why does nobody ever suggest an alternative explanation for the outing: to get back at HER?
After all, if the administration is Hell-bent on starting a war with Iran, under the pretext of concern over non-existent nuclear weapons wouldn't it be monumentally inconvenient to have an NOC agent whose very job is to find out about POSSIBLE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN IRAN? For after all, that was her job! It would be easier to "suspect" a nuclear program if there were nobody available whose job it was to prove it wasn't true.
I'm sure they enjoyed sticking one in the eye of Joseph Wilson, but I'm just as sure that Valerie Plame was the real problem. Any comments???
Nope
Donkey Hote, that's quite true; the late Kurt Vonnegut said they are 'PP's' -- Psychopathic Personalities.' When I read this, I felt a zing of recognition:
"Imagine -- if you can -- not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.
And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.
Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.
You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.
In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.
You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.
[...]
Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all."
-- From "The Psychopath -- The Mask of Sanity."
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
Have you ever heard a better psychological description of Bush/Cheney and their underlings?
Something is being missed by almost all here. All have the right idea and all above posts are on the side of truth and light. What is being missed is the connection to psychopathy of the central players in this administration. This may not be the first administration to be filled with pshchopaths, but it is the most evident in my sixty some years of observation. These are people who do not respond normally to stimulii and who have no conscience, and no care as to whom they hurt- use. Google Psyhchopath and spend a few minutes reading the synopsis of the study by Cleckly of psychopathic behavior for an understanding of what is happening. Part of the profile of the psychopath is a failure to project into the future the result of one's actions. It seems to fit perfectly. These folks are following someone else's agenda. "Someone" who does not have the interest of this country central to their program. "Someone" (meant as a collective figure) who has dual passports and divided loyalty.
I thnk that Titty Tatty has me figured out. I confess, I'm a damn liar and support Bush and fascism and genocide, ___ guess I need help.
Oh BTW, Tit Tat's last post is an example of what I meant about her. I suppose it's a her, never heard of a man using a name like that. I shoul djust ignore her and pass on by when I see her posts.
If you were Bush or Cheney and even suspected you were - (Big Time) - not just politically, but legally vulnerable (that is, to prosecution), would you just sit by and let that happen?
Methinks not.
What do you think?
Jake, I think it was the rank and file populist Dems who were responsible for the Dems winning in the last election. If the DLC Dems, already a minority within the party, play this Republican Lite game much longer, the populist base of the party will move on.
I know the conventional wisdom inside the beltway is that they have nowhere else to go but the Dems, but there are a lot of outraged Democrats these days, outraged at the Reid/Pelosi pussyfooting with Bush and the GOP, so a real third party bid isn't unthinkable.
I also think some real surprises may be in store in the primaries; from people I've talked to, and not all of them are liberals, Kucinich and Edwards are more popular than the national and state polls reflect.
RSJ -
Your distinction about there being 2 Democrat parties is fair enough. I have close Dem contacts in at least 14 states - local and state party activists/leaders. None of them have any use for corporate sell-out legislators or Party executives who pose as national Party leaders inside the Beltway.
But as you know, the question has become and remains: Can the corrupt big wigs be dethroned by rank and file Dems? Some think No; others hold out hope.
Which brings me to remarks made above about
Kem Partick.
Tetti_Tatti - Almost everybody agrees with you about the national Dems' disgusting corruption, Kem included, I'd assume. Anyway, nothing Kem Patrick's ever posted on this site even remotely marks him as an apologist for fascism let alone a fascist himself.
Kem didn't deserve that particular jab, even if he took a jab at you first. (Can't you two kiss and make-up, or something like that...?)
I'll butt out after this, and spare you both the following note to me: jakejaspers, mind your own business.
SallyUUKent, I think Bush is already paying for his lies and is not getting off scot-free; most of his adult life has been devoted to a fruitless oedipal quest to out-do his father and in that, as in everyhting else, he's been an absolute failure. Because of who he is, he can't change, but pursuing the same course just makes things worse. He's going to leave office as the worst president in history -- it's Shakespearian.
Meanwhile, Cheney has to live with himself and Lynne -- would you wish that on your worst enemy? Always uneasy is the head that wears the crown and no one gets out alive.
What hasn't been mentioned here is that there are really two Democratic Parties, similar to Edwards' two Americas.
On one side is the Democratic Leadership Council Dems, AKA 'Republican Lite.' They take money from the same corporate interests as the GOP and their hero is Bill Clinton who, if you remember, helped the Republicans pass such corporate-friendly leglislation as GATT, NAFTA and the Telecommunications Act.
It seems both Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are DLC Dems -- at least, they generally advance that agenda. Although the DLC Dems have lost power in the party over the years, they still exert considerable influence, especially as to which candidates gets DNC money for their House and Senate races.
On the other side are the populist Dems, such as Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean. It was Dean's '50-state strategy' (for which Rahm Emmanuel has falsely taken credit) that won a Congressional majority for the Dems in 2006. Although their hardline anti-war and 'take no guff from the GOP message' got Dems elected, after the election the DLC moves in to take credit and control the party. The populist Dems would impeach Bush and Cheney in a heartbeat, but the multi-national corporations that are continuing to profit from BushCo would be mighty unhappy.
Nothing will change until either the DLC is purged from the Democratic Party, or the populists threaten to form their own party. Unfortunately, that's not in the cards for 2008.
However, the one thing the DLC Dems respond to is public pressure; if Pelosi thinks she might lose her soft job to Cindy Sheehan (and I hope she does), she may hop on board the impeachment express as a matter of self-preservation.
Revelations like those of McClellan's help bring that day closer; I'm sending emails to Conyers and Pelosi demanding that they impeach Cheney for his obvious involvement in, if not responsibility for, the Plame leak. If you want to put an impeachment fire under the DLC Dems, please do the same.
I was raised a Roman Catholic. I am a Unitarian Universalist now, but there will always be a part of me that is Catholic. I attended Catholic school, was taught by the nuns and my sense of morals and ethics has and probably always will be informed by my Catholic upbringing.
One of the lessons that stuck with me over time is the issue of lying. If there is anything that sends me into a good Irish rage (I'm Irish on my maternal side), it's lies. Being lied to or about. Oh, does that ever get my Irish up! And the fact that this administration has such a long list of lies, as catalogued in a most excellent manner by Greg Bacon (see above) just sends me into orbit.
How is it that we've allowed this administration to lie, and lie, and lie and lie some more and get away with it is beyond me. All you have to do is to look at Bush's face when he lies. You can see very clearly that he knows he's lying. Watch him sometime. There is a tone of voice and a facial expression that clearly indicates that he's lying. But people clearly don't care a whit about this. Today is Black Friday, and all people care about is arriving at their favorite shopping place at the advertised opening time of 4 or 5 a.m. to get the best values and shopping till they drop.
Newspapers are losing circulation. As are magazines. People aren't reading anymore. They're shopping, both in stores and on-line, paying more attention to who's still on "Dancing with the Stars" or "American Idol" than watching or reading the news. Paris, Britney and Lindsey are more important than watching the stock market experiencing mini-crashes on a daily basis, dropping sometimes 200-300 points in one day.
People would rather listen to mindless blather on talk radio than to pay attention to what's going on in the news, and no, I am NOT talking Natalee Holloway (have you noticed that this story has once again rocketed to front pages of newspapers while important national and international news is buried inside?), or Britney's latest escapade or LiLo's entering rehab for the umpteenth time...frankly, I couldn't give a whit what happens to these spoiled twits who seem to so get people chattering around the water cooler at work.
If people don't start waking up and paying attention soon, I'm afraid that our days as a grand experiment in democracy are soon to be over, if they aren't already. We're marching ever steadily toward being yet another doomed empire on the scrap heap of history. And we have no one but ourselves to blame for it. Schools are more concerned with teaching kids how to take tests in order to comply with No Child Left Behind than teaching them anything of useful substance. Kids today are distracted by iPods, cell phones and PlayStation and don't care about curling up with a good book. Their attention spans are shockingly short due to having spent their childhoods parked in front of the boob tube or the computer instead of reading a newspaper or a book.
In short, we're raising a collective generation of kids with ADD (attention deficit disorder). Adults seem to be plagued with it as well. We want insta-gratification, everything now, now, now, instead of patiently waiting for something. The idea of devouring a long, 1000 page tome (which I am doing right now, reading Ken Follett's "World Without End") is an anomaly to most people, who tell me they wouldn't have the patience to do such a thing. They want it short, sweet and to the point. Those people who do read anymore want what I call "bathtub reading", brain bubblegum, nothing of substance, just fluff. Wasted effort. Harlequin Romances - formulaic stories that are written according to a strict template. Read one, you've read 'em all. Different characters, different names, different places, same story.
But I digress.
Lying seems to be what this administration is all about. This, from a candidate who said that he would "restore honor and integrity to the White House". Well, once again, it's turned out to be a lie. Well, I suspect that Bush has been lying about a lot of things for most of his life. A lot of alcoholics use lying as a way of bluffing about their problem in order to cover it up. I suspect that Bush just got used to lying when he was a drunk and a drug abuser, and he's never quite figured out a way not to do that, despite his so-called conversion to Christianity.
Well, the Christianity I was taught as a Catholic basically catalogued lying as a sin, and given the long list of Bush lies that have been listed above, I suspect that when it comes time for Bush to meet his maker, he's not going to get through the pearly gates. There'll be enough black marks in front of his name in the big book above that he'll probably be cast down to hell forever. I don't think he feels one bit of remorse for what he's done and probably never will, either.
Lying is a sin, no ands, ifs or buts about it. And while the God of the Universalist faith is one of infinite mercy, justice and compassion (the other half of our Unitarian Universalist faith), still, there is some part of me that believes that even Bush isn't going to get off scot-free in the end. I know - we UU's are supposed to believe in the inherent worth and dignity of all people, but I have yet to see it in Bush. I have a hard time feeling any sort of compassion for a man who has basically lied his way through life. Some part of me knows that he probably can't help it - alcoholism is a disease you live with your entire life - but still, maybe if he'd received counseling as he dried out instead of doing it on his own and becoming a "dry drunk", he could have made more of his life and learned the lessons of his disease and how it controls your life.
Instead, he just continues to bluff and lie his way through life. And that's very sad.
It'll be interesting to see what comes out of these recent revelations. Maybe impeachment will finally be put back on the table, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen. Too many cowards in Washington who care more about themselves and their own collective backsides than about the American people and upholding the Constitution that they are sworn to defend.
GREG BACON: They also lied (Bush, anyway) about Jesus, prince of peace, master teacher of forgiveness and turn the other cheek as strategy, being "their savior."
They lie about the corelation between abstinence only programs and out-of-wedlock births.
They lie about the numbers of people--not collateral damage--that have died, become maimed, or succumbed to refugee status in Iraq.
They lie about a supposed improvement in the status of women in Afghanistan.
I'm sure we can still add to this list. I hope a stenographer from the angelic realm is keeping up with this CD dictation/record!
KEM PATRICK do you ever post anything honest? Your defense of Bush and Democrats is what's repulsive. Being on the side of fascism and genocide is very unhealthy, please get treatment.
They lied about Iraq not becoming another Vietnam.
They lied repeatedly--and still do to this day--about Saddam Hussein having connections to al-Qaeda.
They lied about the intelligence briefings both then NSA head Condi Rice and GW Bush had received in the Summer of 2001.
They lied about Jose Padilla wanting to use a "dirty" bomb an an American city.
They lied about knowing the possibilities of someone using an airplane as a weapon to attack buildings.
They lied repeatedly--and still do to this day--about using torture techniques on prisoners.
They lied about the threat level of the people picked up in Afghanistan and shipped to Gitmo, saying they're "bomb makers" and terrorists.
Less than 8% have any connection to aL-Qaeda.
They lied--and still do--about not spying on Americans unless they have a court order.
They lied in the outing of now former CIA undercover operative Valerie Plame Wilson.
They lied about the FISA Court--Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act--not issuing warrants in a timely manner.
They lied about the size and scope of the domestic spying the Bush/Cheney junta has been performing on its own citizens.
They lied about Iraq having biological and chemical weapons.
They lied about Iraq having a nuclear weapons program...Yellowcake, anyone?
They lied about Saddam having mobile facilities for producing biological warfare agents.
They lied about Iraq having UAV's--Unmanned Aerial Vehicle's--that could deliver chemical or biological agents to the U.S.
They lied about finding WMD's in post-invasion Iraq.
They lied about Iraq being an "imminent" threat to the United States.
They lied about the threat level of the then approaching Hurricane Katrina.
They lied about not knowing that the New Orleans levees were in danger of being breached.
They lied--and still do--about the need for an immediate fix on the Social Security fund.
They lied about the tax cuts going mostly to the middle class.
They lied about the estate tax saving the "family farm."
They lied about the 2003 Prescription Drug Bill cost Estimates.
They lied about Bush's "Clean Air Act" imposing stringent new rules on polluters.
They lied about mercury levels in young mothers.
They lied--and still do--about the effects of the tax cuts on the national debt.
They lied about the provisions of the "PATRIOT" Act.
They lied about the outgoing Clinton administration damaging White House property.
They lied about Bush's service in the Air National Guard.
They lied about the level of care our wounded veterans were receiving.
They lied about the amount of federal educational funding states would receive.
They lied about the number of Americans having access to clean drinking water and the threat of arsenic in drinking water.
They lied about using conservation as part of a National Energy policy.
They lied about the White House's connections to the now bankrupt company, Enron.
They lied about Bush being the first president to advocate for a separate Palestinian state.
They lied about their level of involvement in the attempted coup in 2002 of President Chavez of Venezuela.
They lied about Cheney's involvement in awarding contracts to his old firm, Halliburton. (Cheney still receives a deferred compensation package from Halliburton)
They lied about Bush supporting a patient's bill of rights, that would allow patients denied care the right to take their HMO to court.
They lied about the safety of imported prescription drugs from Canada.
They lied about the budget deficits being only "small and temporary."
They lied about the fact that Bush and the WH do conduct focus groups and listen to polls.
They lied about the war in Iraq having nothing to do with oil.
They lied about former NFL star Pat Tilman's murder in Afghanistan.
They lied--and still do--about people wanting to attack us for our freedom.
They lied about turning information over to the 9/11 Commission.
They lied--and still do-- about addressing the security concerns and vulnerabilities at chemical plants and ports.
They lied--and still do--about Iran having connections to aL-Qaeda.
They lied--and still do--about Iran being a threat to the United States.
They lied about Saddam Hussein refusing to allow U.N. WMD inspectors into Iraq.
So, why in the hell should anyone believe ANYTHING this pack of professional liars has to say about the events that took place on September 11, 2001?
P.S. Thanks to the excellent web site, Bush Lies and to an article in the "Nation."
Is there anything more repulsive and disgusting than TETTI-TATTI's posts on so many subjects?
Ummmmmmm, ___ don't think so. __ Some things are as bad.
jakejaspers---you make some excellent points, but as a keen observer on this post, I feel obligated to warn you that Nadar2000 and RichM are the master debaters on this site. If you are not up to the task, don't feel bad. I personally would not dare to engage either of them.( smile) They seem to love trying to demolish each others positions.
It's a pasttime some here on CD seem to love. Me---I just insert some non-sequiters occasionally to try to lighten up the mood. But go for it, if you have the stomach. You seem intelligent AND respectful.... a welcome addition to CD.
richard729----you, too have some very valuable insights, and I agree with most everything you have said. I wish people cared more, weren't so easily distracted by the circus aspect of the culture. I wish they paid closer attention and believed it mattered and they had the power to bring about real change. Then again, I also wish we could all see our inter-relatedness and inter-connectedness. (sigh) So many wishes, so little time....
Yet another impeachable offense by the Bush criminal enterprise starring Democraps in the face and, yet again, they choose to look the other way. Is there anything more repulsive and disgusting than Democrats in Congress? Yes, Democratic voters.
And by the way, when are Democraps apologizing to Ralph Nader?
Nader 2000-
You say "it's the corporate-controlled media, stupid."
Since many of us already know this, why not take up with the next two useful questions?
Who in our government has allowed America's MSM to become a functional mirror image of Isvestia?
And How, now that the MSM have been locked in as such, can we ever resolve the Catch-22 this presents?
Answering the Who question is easy. Clinton started the MSM dereg/consolidation ball rolling years ago, with assent from congressional Dems and (gleeful) Rebubs. And later, when Bush FCC appointees took MSM dereg many drastic steps further, Dems never mounted any credibly impassioned objections - as this fatal trend damn well deserved.
And more recently, after 2006 elections, Dems tellingly failed to use their simple majorities to even TRY to make MSM re-regulation the crucial public issue it deserves to be.
As for How [to reverse America's Isvestia reality, now]: No Dem Prez front runners have made MSM re-regulation a major issue during the debates -- even tho, as YOU say, Nader 2000, "It's the corporate-controlled media, stupid."
Everybody, left, right, and center, knows that democracy doesn't even get to first base without a diversely-owned, not-too-centralized mainstream news media (quite easily achievable via FCC regs & congressional statute, if there's honest political leadership.)
You, Nader 2000, know this, and your allegedly misunderstood/outmaneuvered Democrat Party leaders/front runner Prez candidates know it too. So why do you implicitly make excuses for the latters' do-nothing approach, even when they have reasonable power to publicly focus the issue?
Doesn't all this tell you something, Nader 2000?
I can see that America's MSM have not hypnotized You -- and I respect you for that. But I suspect that maybe you've hypnotized yourself -- which even you must agree, would be a far worse thing.
Just don't hold your breath. This "Bush-enabling" Democratic Party will do everything to stop accountability.
What we actually need is some kind, honorable soul or organization..preferably with money and unlimited resources....to give these whistleblowers some protection to allow more to come forth and expose this congress and administration as the actual "evil doers". I must commend bush's mastery as he PROJECTED the satanic undertones of his own administration upon his mis-created "axis of evil". He certainly adopted one of Hitler's methods and turned it into an artform. But, what would one expect from the son of a Nazi?
"Pelosi and Conyers certainly isnt going do do a thing about this disgraceful pimp and Mrs pimp dickie boy.We must do something about Nancy and Conyers also.History will prove they are setting at the table of corruption along side the repugs neo-nazi punks."
What needs to happen is an establishing of complicity and cover-up by both parties. It's obviously there, it just needs to be unearthed (as in proven) and shouted repeatedly until there's a groundswell.
Just a short reminder.
Impeachment proceedings against the VP have already begun.
It is now in the hands of congressman Wexler who seems inclined to move ahead in committee.
http://wexler.house.gov/
McCellan was just an insignificant clog in the Bush/Cheney juggernaut, that clog may now become an important lynch pin in helping to answer important questions like; "what did you know and when did you know it."
Myrtle November 22nd, 2007 12:48 am
Myrtle, Thanks for the addresses. Not that a letter will get read, much less get attention.....but I've sent the addresses to everyone in my own address book.
If this story garners no more "corrective action" inside the Beltway than the past 7 years then you might as well update your passport.
Is McClellan married to a good looking blond? ________Dean was. There might be a similarity.
Given the enormity of the Bush crimes which have undermined the U.S. Constitution from the get-go it is clear that if a Democrat had been in the White House on 9/11 he/she would have been gone over 5 years ago.
But, times have changed in ways that many Americans simply don't understand or even care about. Voters today, especially the 10-second attention span MTV generation, are willing to give up freedoms and liberties at the slightest bit of propaganda coming out of the White House that if we don't kill all the bad guys in Iraq we will have to fight them mano a mano in the aisles of Wal-Mart.
Most high school students today will be eligible to vote in 2008 if they can pull themselves away from their Ipods, camera cell phones and PlayStations, long enough to care. Proof of this apathy and ignorance of our government and how it works (or supposed to work) can be seen a John S. and James L. Knight Foundation study released in early 2005:
http://www.knightfdn.org/default.asp?story=news_at_knight/releases/2005/...
No, Scott McClellan is no John Dean. Nor does Mr. Nichols, for all his insight into politics, understand that McClellan himself may be a Trojan Horse, offering up his mea culpa as a ruse to distract and further conflate the malfeasance of a Bush administration in which he was only a minor player. But certainly not a John Dean.
McClellan, like all the previous Bush officials who departed this corrupt, corrosive administration, is seeking to profit on whatever cheap gossip he can strew about to satisfy the prurient interests of a scandal-addicted population more focused on "Sweet Caroline" and NASCAR than it is on a political system run amok and rotten to the core.
I've been screaming loud and clear for impeachment for the last 7 years. I also consider the CIA to be the world's premier TERRORIST organization, and that Valerie Plame was a paid TERRORIST since she worked for them. Given the chance, I would have outed her or anybody else I knew to be a CIA thug. It'll be pretty ironic if the ONLY thing Bush & Cheney did that I approved of turns out to be their undoing. IMPEACH the sorry bastards!
when Bush has the media bought off and in his pocket, the democratic leader of the house and many other democrats, and the surpreme court, well what can you do. He'd get away with murder if he killed someone, thru bribery and intimidation. Fear will stop those who wish to do the right thing and prosecute him. Corruption is just another day in the life of the Bush administration. so get used to it.
If he 'offered this up' several-years back, I'd more-respect the gesture...
Does McClellan really expect me to 'sympathize', and believe that he felt he was dealing-with/enabling a bunch of 'straight-shooters' (who call each-other fart-blossom, price-of-darkness, Vulcans, etc.)?
Gimme a break...you lie-with-dogs, you rise-with-fleas.
The over-scant numbers of 'whistle-bowers' (albeit late-in-game 'blow-harders') is appalling. ANYONE who has partnered-up with these Criminally-insane 'neo-Whatevers' should have been so-initially SHOCKED&AWED at their obvious-madness that they should have Denounced-and-quit in their very first-week. It goes to show how morally/ethically corrupted these last several-Generations of Americans have become, that they allow a ruse/Mythos like 'PNAC" and 'Patriotism' (and their lust for a 'slice-o-pie') to cover-ass for all these myriad-forms of theft/chicanery/machinations greased by murder/impoverishment for 'all-now-outside' of their little privileged-clique...
Screw 'em all -- just enlarge the prison-system -- they've well-earned their place-there, ensconced along with their 'leaders', for all-time.
['Dibs' on a rocking-chair near the primary-Guillotine...!]
What's with this site?!
They wouldn't let me edit the above:
Captain Renault: I am shocked... shocked to learn that there is gambling going on in this cafe!
Thanks, guys, for helping to kill a punchline. I'm going to another site...
Captain Renault: I am shocked... shocked to learn that there is gambling going on in this casino!
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Well, if I were Bush, had over a year left in office and my "opposition" promised me carte blanche retroactively and presumably in advance as well (impeachment off the table), God only knows what I'd do...
Bush couldn't have done any of this without the help of the crypto-neocons in charge of the Dems. Money & power trumps everything else at this point in American culture. Bush couldn't have done this without his enabling "opposition" and a totally complicit MSM.
We should all read Karl Rove`s book at the same time as McClellan`s as then we could feel that they cancel each other out and continue to "don`t worry, be happy". Life is just too short for all of these depressing topics and we had better all be out shopping like mad and being patriotic.
NOTHING of importance will happen, except some normal bullshit spin, and TV pundents telling us what we already know.
UNLESS, as NADER 2000 correctly stated,___ to "WE stupid people",___ a national newspaper makes it a headline story and keeps it on the front pages until Congress acts. We'll see if that happens and IF McClellan sticks to his original story. It is a holiday and the news through the weekend, will be football, Paris Hilton fartng in a church, or Bonds hitting another drug influenced home run. And tha tis ow it is. Our corrupt press and media, are the guiltiest of the lot. ___ BY FAR.
The edit feature of Common Dreams is also corrupt, half of the time.
She is right, as well, when she concludes that, if what McClellan says is true "it will call into question the legitimacy of the entire administration. And we may see a changing of the guard at the White House sooner than expected."
I'm not going to hold my breath...
If the "con" is the opposite of "pro" then what is the opposite of Progress?
Why is the national news media, covering Natile Holloway, the girl who was killed in aruba again? instead of something this important? I have not heard one network station mention this!! not a peep, Is the national media involved in this conspiracy also? Pelosi, speak now, or forever loose my vote! Presidential cannidates speak up Have you all lost your gonads, Opps Sorry Hillary, Your excused, can you open your month and give a yes or no answer, for just once in your life, as too if you think this is an impeachable offense? I hear only silence, Is the fear factor putting cotton in the mouths of all politicians, Its a sad say for Democracy in America.
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Scottie! Not Ari!
If Scottie is indeed the Bush crime family's equivalent to John Dean.... I suspect his days are numbered.
16 months from now, chimpy and the dick will be in prison with NO one to pardon them. (or Dubai)
What would constitute an astounding, scandalous admission in the Before-Time is now simply a will o' the wisp which will shortly sink back into the quicksand of the Memory Hole.
Whether conspiracy, collusion, or coincidence, neither the politicians nor their corporate media allies will pay serious, or perhaps I should say critical, attention to this story. Oh, they'll report it because of its superficial sensational aspects. But once McClellan retracts, amends, or otherwise spins this seeming admission, or the story is discredited and discounted by predictable disclaimers from the parties involved and/or their propaganda ministers, the media will move on.
The Republics may have blown the impeachment fuse, but the Dems have welded shut and padlocked the fuse box. So the politicians don't want to hear about this, and the media isn't about to reverse its ostrich-like submission to the Ruling Class which it serves, and to which it aspires.
Oh, the story might be useful for campaign purposes. But the distinguished celebrity infotainwhore emceeing the next puerile faux-debate pageant will be too busy asking the candidates probing, trenchant questions like, "If you could be any kind of food, what kind of food would you be?"
Back in The Day, before we were hurled Through the Looking Glass, even the depraved DC elites occasionally acted on principle. I was a teenager during the Watergate hearings, and hardly interested in politics-- but I did get drawn into watching them, and remember believing the John Dean really did seem to be so forthcoming because of his troubled conscience. Now principle has long since leached out of the politician's mind, heart, and soul, though the word may remain in its rhetorical lexicon.
The omerta practiced by the present maladministration is exactly what one expects from a crime family. So the belated admissions and negative accounts from ex-maladministration members never seem to reach the threshold where they really get traction. And instead of the Old-School investigative reporting from Woodward & Bernstein (before they were turned into pod people), we have three little monkeys wheezing, "See No Evil; Hear No Evil; Speak No Evil".
Admissions like this ought to be a tipping point, or a match to a fuse, but no spark will catch if the fix is in.
Will McClellan be Bush's John Dean? No. Dean realized the error of his ways while it still mattered. McClellan is just a sleaze trying to sell books. It ain't the same, folks.
- - - now backpeddling - - -
I like the ol' saying, that when one finds oneself digging a hole in the ground, the 1st thing one needs to do is stop digging. But that's about wisdom, which is hardly well cherished in DC, so . . .
It would be comical if many of the gov shills ALL started to dig at once, in a contest to see who could make the biggest dust cloud, while we sit and watch the holes get deeper and deeper. Then the air starts to clear and all of USans start to see the holy mess that we're all in, with the jerks almost out of sight, into their own darkness.
But then the corptogreediest's would push the cameras aside to check if anyone had turned up anything valuable.
I have given up hope that this Congress will do the right thing.
Somewhere in the past the politicians started caring more about getting reelected and lining their own pockets than taking care of the people's business.
I'm beginning to wonder if the only choice the people have is to overthrow the government by force. Not that long ago I would have never thought such a thing, but with all the violations to the Constitution going on and nothing being done about it, maybe the time to bear arms against the (not our, the) government has come.
He didn't know he was lying? Funny. I did.
Now McClellan is back-peddling saying Bush did not lie. There is an interesting dynamic here. Even those who are professional liars are having trouble covering for each other by telling more lies, and adding more spin! Does someone want to toss a shovel to this guy? I say let him drown in the cesspool of lies.
--". . . That changing of the guard — via the Constitutional process of impeachment and trial for their various and sundry high crimes and misdemeanor — is long overdue."
As much as I'm tempted to make a wisecrack, here, this Constitutional Crisis is too important to trivialize. The American People are very much at risk from this renegade administration, at this juncture. Congress must begin impeachment proceedings as soon as possible.
So suddenly McCliar is a truth revealer? Was every outright lie he told and/or covered for done "unknowingly?" Or just this one? Are we supposed to, er, forgive him for helping Cheneybush destroy America on so many levels? Didn't Greenspan try the same bullshit last month - it wasn't me, I was just a victim of the bad people upstairs???
F**k McClellan and his desperate effort to alleviate at least a shred of the guilt he's now overcome by...
I was 9 years old in the summer of '73 and living in Oklahoma. Oklahoma summers are hot, too hot to play outside in the middle of the day, so instead you sit inside and watch t.v.
Problem was, in those days there were only 4 television channels, and they were all covering the watergate hearings. No Gilligans Island, Star Trek, or cartoons.
I got hooked. This was better than any soap opera, more exciting than sit-coms, it was reality t.v. Even at 9 years old I got a thrill at watching John Dean, get grilled, fold and spill the beans.
Impeach, if for no other reason, to put something good back on t.v.
gobble, gobble,
Happy Native American Genocide Day!
Ramsay
My above posting got interrupted by a phone call while editing and the time ran out.DRATS!!! I apologize for the messy end product. I would only add this question for all of us to ponder:
If this isn't the reality we want to be a part of any longer, then what energies are we willing to invest to create a different reality? It's a question we all must answer for ourselves and then, hopefully, get busy.
If we condemn those in power for refusing to be responsible, how are we different when we throw up our hands nad say we can't change it...it's too big,bad and powerful for us to manage?
The drama we're living in leads to a place I don't choose to go. I want to create a very different story.
But of course McClellan is releasing this on a long holiday weekend. Time to forget about it yet cover his butt. We mustn't let this die, corporate rightist media be damned!!
All McLellen is doing is covering his ass for the possibility that the Congress will win the battle to supeona Harriet Myers and Josh Bolton to testify before Congress. If this can happen, then he will be another of those in line to tell what he knew and didn't. That is why he says ( beyond all credible belief) that he was given "misinformation" by his superiors. This is why sworn testimony is so important. It is the only way to get the thieves to fall out; by needing to save their own skin. Henry Waxman will get to him, he's just too busy now covered up by investigating all of the other scandals.
Hello fellow and sister posters.
I sadly fear that those who are doubtful that this is some sort of tipping point may be right---I share that view. That said, I would love nothing bette ythan events proving I am wrong. I will apologize and reamin silent in this forum as an act of contrition. (smile)
Here's how I see it. The crimes of the current power stucture which includes ALL the players past and present, have been subjecting us to a kind of Chinese water torture. Drp drip drip go the crimes falling on our heads. The evidence of criminal wrongdoing has been out there for years, new violations everyday, and yet no accountability. It's not as if there hasn't been plenty of evidence prior to McClellen's accusation, which notably absolves himself of any wrong doing---HE WAS DUPED!
Has everyone forgotten how, the whole Plame matter was distroted by the Right wing screamers who claimed Plame wasn't really covert...blah blah blah. I kept thinking how crazy it was that the original rationale for the invasion of Iraq was our fear of S.H.'s WMDs, and yet a covert agent, working to track the development thereof was exposed deliberately and maliciously. It made no sense to me that ANYONE not involved in that act would defend it at all, or that the MSM would just go along, since they supposedly wee pissed for being duped by all the false information.
The list of crimes against humanity and our Constiturion are so hideous and numerous that the refusal to address them all this time seems intended to minimize them. "Nothing to see here folks---just keep moving..." done. WEe can argue and analyze the motives, but it seems to me the situation speaks to us loud and clear. If you're in a position of power these days, you get to make your own rules, and this "organizational chart" at the head of The big corporation called the US of A, has determined that laws just don't aply to them.
Pelosi, Conyers-----please prove me wrong!
Two thoughts come to mind. First, like TruOrange, I asked the same question. Why would Scott do this? What is in it for him? My initial reaction is to santitize himself after soaking in the Bush sewer for so long to get a high power job in private industry. Second, Congress isn't going to do s@#$ about this. If anything, they will put Henry Waxman on the case while Nancy Pelosi gets a makeover and spends time in a tanning booth. Do all of you really think the Congress is going to do anything? I will put my money on "no."
I wonder if Scotty has any calls on his answering machine from Blackwater?
So what's in it for Scottie? Ari has a cush job as some high-powered K-street lobbyist. Ari was the good German - kept his mouth shut, charmed the media, and got out when things started heating up.
I didn't get the feeling Scottie was quite up to Ari's standard. And I never for a single moment considered that Scottie had an ounce of integrity (you can't have integrity and do that job). I've my doubts that he's suddenly acquired some.
So, what's in it for him to spill the beans right now? Dickey and Karl will be making his life holy h---.
As for the congress, it's just more news that easy to ignore. They've done it before and will continue to do it. Not that we shouldn't write our letters - which I will do. I am nearly always hopeful. But with this congress, rarely optimistic.
Nadar2000
While I agree that it is mostly the corporate media that is making sure this stuff doesn't get on national television, the people on this website are anything but stupid. Why would you choose to demean people who are trying, like yourself, to get the message out, learn more, and inform others?
The problem for most is that the tangled web they wove is so convoluted that it is hard to cover all the info necessary to paint a big picture of words in a little box. Each post adds a little more to the bigger story of why this is occurring.
No one has a lock on informing about everything on every level. Frustration is totally understandable, and everyone is going to have bad days. If we keep putting each other down, our collective ability to actually promote change will weaken. More bees with honey....
Every senior official of this illegitimate, criminal and treasonous administration deserves to swing from a tree by the neck for what they have done to this country. Every single one of them, including Condi, Colin, Rummy, Rove - all of them! Also, at the very least, every complicit member of Congress deserves to go to prison for not only not taking action against them, but for actively blocking any attempt to bring them to some, or ANY form of justice!
Will Congress still consider Kucinich's motion to impeach as frivolous?
Of course.
And let us not forget that the Plame affair is just the tip of the iceberg! Thousands have had their careers suddenly evapoarate simply because they wouldn't play ball with the Administrations lies that resulted in the on going imperialistic adventures of the neocon movement.
Unfortunately the average American doesn't have a clue about what motivates Bush & Co. nor could they care less.
People forget what really happened back in 1975.
It wasn't just that some burglars got caught, it wasn't just that Congress investigated. If that were all it took, Bush & Cheney would be down already.
It was that the Washington Post made the unfolding story serial front-page headline news, and the rest of the media followed along. The Watergate hearings were broadcast live on network television and people crowded around portable black-and-white televisions in their workplaces to watch. The media told the nation, This is Important, and made it real.
There is no particular reason this could not have already happened with the Plame story, the full Iraq WMD lies story, the 9/11 investigation, torture, illegal wiretapping, election rigging, and more.
It's not the spineless Democrats, it's not the apathetic population, and it's not the lack of evidence to impeach. It's the corporate-controlled media, stupid.
Time to hold all the crooks to account.
Too bad we don't have an opposition, or moral fortitude, in the nation's capitol to impeach these liars.
Politics has become a law-free zone. What would get ordinary people arrested is acceptable in office. No wonder organized crime seems to be so drawn to it.
Congress must not delay any longer! It must quickly hold an investigation - or 'investigations' because Congress must revisit 9/11 (I saw last week's Vegas implosion and couldn't help but notice the little white puffs from the internal 'charges' - the same type white puffs in evidence as the twin towers began to fall); and Congress must put IMPEACHING the Great Deciding Duo on the table NOW else tomorrow they may institute marshall law launching a full-blown dicatorship. Congress must uphold the law of our beloved United States of America else neither party will find favour with citizens and lose votes aplenty. We don't want voters to stay home; but the least educated need to know why they must vote; they need, for starters, a primer on the tragedy that befell German citizens under Adolf.
The one thing those currently in power, and all who support them - including the media, can never escape is: What they have done; the destruction of a country, and the deaths of over a million, MOSTLY INNOCENT, people. The list of crimes will fill volumes.
Today I watched a clip on MSNBC where the announcer used a tone to indicate he was shocked at these allegations...
I literally laughed to myself. Did anyone truly believe Bush wasn't aware of who leaked what, and how the cover up would proceed....
Some of us have understood that for some time. It is humorous to me that people would be 'shocked' by this... I think he even called them, 'shocking allegations.' LOL..
Don't look to Pelosi to allow impeachment proceedings to go forward. Our best hope is that a Democratic president will allow all kinds of prosecutions, including war crimes prosecutions to proceed once these criminals are out of the White House. A good long life sentence for both of them will do me fine. Impeachment would be better as an act to protect the constitutional functions of the 3 branches of government, and to maintain a precedent set with Nixon's impeachment.. but she won't do it, so prosecution later is what I am hoping to see...
Please, whoever is the next president, no pardons this time. Of course, Bush could issue himself and Cheney pardons on his last day in office.... another reason for impeachment..
Pardon the cynicism but in this country anymore how could we NOT be cynics?
Yet another "in the circle" person comes forward AFTER THE FACT to spill the goodies and promote a book deal! In a "Constitutional America", that is supposed to be based on honor and the highest integrity/greatest good for the country, this asshole (and there are many others in that category) wait to come forward when it is "safe".
The only way to stop this kind of corruption is to make sure Kucinich gets past the primaries. Yeah, maybe this is yet another pitch from me for D.K. but this is all tied together and won't change with anyone else running the show.
Please join me at:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/28847
and let's get this forwarded to everyone on our e-mail lists. He's going to need as much support as "We The People" can give because, knowing Dennis and his integrity and courage, you can BET he's gonna run with this newest news for reasons to IMPEACH!
It sure is time to go after Pelosi and Conyers too---WHEN, if not NOW, would Congress have grounds to impeach? Good Lord, if my friends and I sitting round a couple of beers knew years ago that Iraqistan would be a complete disaster, what excuse can there be for people inside the loop? Likewise we humble citizens knew that BushCo were ALL involved in the Plame Affair, Smilin' Scott McClellan too (the little arsewiper, saying he "didn't know it was all a lie")....How many times can the Left be correct before this fucking country WAKES UP?!
wobememn, I like your response and agree with it 100%. You were able to state your case without having to lower yourself to the level of children shouting insults from 50 yards away so they have time to run rather than actually face what they are insulting.
I know we are all against torture (almost all, I should probably say) and I know that I'm not simply angry, but I'm enraged and also feel like doing something about it to "get back at them." But I can't. I know that many will object to this post, but I believe in peace and ending things peacefully. The problem with doing it the peaceful way, is that it takes so much time to get any results. Using force gives one immediate gratification: we got them back and finally WE did the harm, instead of THEM.
I truly believe that justice will come, in one form or another, to all those involved in the corruption of our government. I also know that it's not going to happen anytime soon. In the meantime, I try to do my best to be a good person and try to give to this world more than I take from it.
The canary may be asked or forced to stop singing, ya know......
Ya, well we know that our leaders aren't subject to laws like the rest of us. With congress sherking their constitutional duties they have become accomplice's in the crimes.
The Plame affair still hasn't even begun to be resolved yet.
Sibel Edmunds should release her story too and let the chips fall where they may.
IMPEACH THEM ALL LET GOD FIGURE IT OUT
I don't know if it occurs to me just now, or if I have considered it all along, but had House Speaker Nancy Pelosi enough inside information to know what happened within the White House, but not enough to prove anything, her greatest political gain in declaring impeachment "off the table" would be insurance against a counter claim of conflict of interest, in essence, that she had initiated such a scenario for her own personal political gain. If she had made a statement indicating her own opposition to impeachment, and in spite of this statement had been "forced" into placing impeachment back on the table because of a smoking gun, the move would make her appear less as a masterful politician, more as a reluctant statesperson humbly serving her country as a new and morally acceptable Commander In-Chief. In such a case, the Election of 2008 would be about "Re-Elect President Pelosi," who could use the time between now and then to set the agenda.
I know that my fellow liberals at this point consider Pelosi repugnant because of her apparent lack of political will. Oh, how the prevailing winds could quickly shift that into the most masterful act of political passive aggression so far in the 21st Century.
www.raycarlson.com
Pelosi: "Oh my, there is some more dog scat floating down the Bush sewer. The little people have to drink from that. He really should clean up that sewer someday."
Props to Olberman, he devoted 15mins
to this subject. McLellon's admission is
a dollar short and a day (3 yrs actually) too late
to save his own ass, let alone the rest
of the Administration's murderous scoundrels.
Damn, prospects for impeachment are looking
good. :)
Congress better do something or they will all be considered traitors as well.
Call, write, stomp on over the Nancy Pelosi's offices, if necessary... as well as John Conyers... NOW!!!
Nothing new here. Besides, as has already been noted widely, the Democrats will not act anyway no matter what the evidence. This is why voters need to purge the House and Senate as well as the Executive Branch. Our government has failed us.
American Democracy, thy name is Treason.
Republican or Democrat - no matter how we turn the other cheek the face is still Corporate Evil. Alas, this corruption can only be overcome by another Constitutional Convention. Did everybody stock up on National Ammo Day?
This is huge! I have no other comment or analysis other than to say that congress must pursue this issue. Call your reps and demand that they act on this new information! Impeachment now!!
LILLULU, I couldn't agree more, Pelosi would be what they call an accessory to the fact, if Bush and Cheney had robbed a bank and killed the security guard and she was driving the getaway vehicle!
I can't wait to hear the Pelosovik logic of how this is not an impeachable offense.