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Bird-Dogging Torturers in NYC
As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 nears, many ex-Bush administration officials who approved torture in the “war on terror” and botched the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are back in the spotlight taking bows from appreciative audiences in tightly controlled settings.
Back in my native New York on Thursday afternoon, I was bolstered by a scene of what I call real New Yorkers (along with tourists and honking cab drivers) joining in a protest of the adulation bestowed on torture lawyer John Yoo at the swank University Club off Fifth Avenue.
What became gradually and reassuringly clear is that New York continues to be a tale of two cities. And those whom my grandmother used to call “the swells” remain a loud but increasingly transparent minority.
The hoi aristoi arrived at the club quite decked out in wide silk ties and pricey shoes to honor Yoo, the Bush administration lawyer who drafted some of the most objectionable rationalizations for torturing detainees in the “war on terror.” (He is now a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley.)
My chatting with the hoi polloi on the street, who were supporting the protest, brought a welcome reminder that the self-important “meritocracy” of the University Club – “the suits and the shoes” as we call them – hardly represent New York City.
That realization also generated some helpful adrenalin for later, when I traveled over to the 92nd Street Y for a panel discussion on “9/11 a Decade Later: Lessons Learned and Future Challenges,” featuring former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, ex-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, and George W. Bush’s press spokesman Ari Fleischer. The event, sponsored by the Jewish Policy Center, was moderated by neoconservative talk show host Michael Medved.
I found myself in the banal belly of the beast. To say I felt out of place would be an understatement. My discomfort grew as Medved’s introductory remarks included a rant about radical, fundamentalist, Islamist terrorists.
Welcoming Dissent — NOT
But those weren’t the only enemies to be feared. The event’s “ushers” threw out a handful of folks because they were on the Jewish Policy Center’s equivalent of a “no-fly list.” They were preemptively and roughly removed before the event even got started.
I wore a new “Veterans for Peace” T-shirt (since the blood drawn when I protested at Hillary Clinton’s speech last February would not wash out of the old one). [See: Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Beaten, Arrested for Silent Protest at Clinton Speech, http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/18/ex_cia_analyst_ray_mcgovern_beaten ]
This time, standing in the front row of the large theater in silent witness against Rumsfeld and his apologists on the panel and in the audience got me unceremoniously thrown out after a mere two minutes.
In coming to the Rumsfeld/Mukasey/Fleischer/Medved whitewash of the incompetence before 9/11 and then the aggressive wars and torture afterwards, I did not expect to be able to resume the four-minute impromptu debate I had lucked into with Rumsfeld on live TV on May 4, 2006, in Atlanta. [See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1FTmuhynaw ]
However, this discussion turned out to be so boring, with an occasional dash of disingenuousness thrown in about how “they” hate our democracy, that it was almost a relief not to have to sit, or stand, through it much longer – waiting for the off-chance to debate Rumsfeld again.
A sympathetic policeman, when ordered to remove a young woman who stood up in protest later, commented sotto voce, “I just don’t understand how you could have sat there for as long as you did!”
No Q&A This Time
It also was no surprise that no one was permitted to come to a mike to ask a question. This time questions had to be written on index cards and thoroughly vetted before being given to the speakers. Still less of a surprise was it that the question I dutifully wrote on my index card did not make the cut. I wrote:
“Mr. Rumsfeld, why did you in November 2002 tell Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers to abort the armed service-and-intelligence-wide inquiry he had ordered his chief legal counsel, Navy Captain Jane Dalton to commission into methods of interrogation to which the judge advocates general of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force had strongly objected?”
Background: After over a year of study, the Senate Armed Services Committee issued on Dec. 11, 2008, a unanimous report (“Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in U.S. Custody”), exposing in sordid detail the circumstances surrounding Rumsfeld’s order to quash an inquiry into the legality of torture methods. (Much of the detail adduced below comes from the Senate report.)
The Senate Committee found that Rumsfeld in November 2002 had nipped in the bud an in-depth legal review of interrogation techniques at precisely the time when all interested parties were eager for an authoritative ruling as to their lawfulness.
Rumsfeld’s order was conveyed to Myers by William “Jim” Haynes II, then the Defense Department counsel, who told Myers to cease and desist. Assured of Myers’ and Dalton’s cooperation (Dalton was later promoted to Admiral), and relying on the uniformed JAGs not to risk speaking out, Rumsfeld was able to stop the inquiry cold.
The summer of 2002 had brought to interrogators at Guantanamo new techniques adopted from the Korean War practices of Chinese Communist and North Korean interrogators who extracted false confessions from captured American soldiers.
And, as Bush famously told a TV interviewer, “The lawyer said it was legal.” Sadly, hired-hand, malleable lawyers were not lacking. On Aug. 1, a memo drafted by John Yoo and signed by the head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, Jay Bybee (who was then John Yoo’s boss and is now a federal judge), stated that for an act to qualify as “torture”:
- ”Physical pain … must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death.
- ”Purely mental pain or suffering … must result in significant psychological harm of significant duration, e.g., lasting for months or even years.”
In other words, Bybee was loosening the definition of torture to permit a wide range of abuses that the United States had previously regarded as torture, especially when inflicted on Americans.
Adapting/Adopting Chinese Torture Techniques
During the week of Sept. 16, 2002, a group of interrogators from Guantanamo flew to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, for training in the use of these SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, & Escape) techniques, which were originally designed to help downed pilots withstand the regimen of torture employed by China and North Korea.
Now, SERE techniques were being “reverse engineered” and placed in the toolkit of U.S. military and CIA interrogators.
As soon as the Guantanamo interrogators returned from Fort Bragg, senior administration lawyers, including the Pentagon’s Haynes, John Rizzo of CIA, and David Addington (counsel to Vice President Dick Cheney) visited Guantanamo to underscore that top administration lawyers were all on board.
And, just to make quite sure there was no doubt about the new license given to interrogators, Jonathan Fredman, chief counsel to CIA’s Counterterrorist Center, arrived and gathered the Guantanamo staff together on Oct. 2, 2002, to resolve any lingering questions regarding unfamiliar aggressive interrogation techniques, like the sensation of drowning induced by water-boarding.
Fredman stressed that “the language of the [torture] statutes is written vaguely.” He repeated Bybee’s Aug. 1 guidance and summed up the legalities in this way: “It is basically subject to perception. If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong.”
More Authoritative Guidance Sought
Small wonder that on Oct. 11, 2002, Gen. Michael Dunlavey, the commander at Guantanamo, saw fit to double check with his superior, SOUTHCOM commander Gen. James Hill and request formal authorization to use aggressive interrogation techniques, including water-boarding.
On Oct. 25, 2002, Hill forwarded the request to Gen. Myers and Secretary Rumsfeld, commenting that, while lawyers were saying the techniques could be used, “I want a legal review of it, and I want you to tell me that, policy-wise, it’s the right way to do business.”
Hill later told the Army Inspector General that he (Hill) thought the request “was important enough that there ought to be a high-level look at it … [there] ought to be a major policy discussion of this and everybody ought to be involved.” Gen. Myers, in turn, solicited the views of the military services on the Dunlavey/Hill request.
The Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force all expressed serious concerns about the legality of the techniques and called for a comprehensive legal review. The Marine Corps, for example, wrote, “Several of the techniques arguably violate federal law, and would expose our service members to possible prosecution.”
The Defense Department’s Criminal Investigative Task Force (CITF) at Guantanamo joined the services in expressing grave misgivings. Reflecting the tenor of the four services’ concerns, CITF’s chief legal advisor wrote that the “legality of applying certain techniques” for which authorization was requested was “questionable.”
He added that he could not “advocate any action, interrogation or otherwise, that is predicated upon the principle that all is well if the ends justify the means and others are not aware of how we conduct our business.”
Myers’s Legal Counsel, Captain Jane Dalton, had her own concerns (and has testified that she made Gen. Myers aware of them), together with those expressed in writing by the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force. Dalton directed her staff to initiate a thorough legal and policy review of the proposed techniques.
The review got off to a quick start. As a first step, Dalton ordered a secure video teleconference including Guantanamo, SOUTHCOM, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the Army’s intelligence school at Fort Huachuca. Dalton said she wanted to find out more information about the techniques in the request and to begin discussing the legal issues to see if her office could do its own independent legal analysis.
Rumsfeld’s Lawyer Says Stop
Under oath before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Captain Dalton testified that, after she and her staff had begun their analysis, Gen. Myers directed her in November 2002 to stop the review.
She explained that Myers returned from a meeting and “advised me that Mr. Haynes wanted me … to cancel the video teleconference and to stop the review” because of concerns that “people were going to see” the Guantanamo request and the military services’ analysis of it. Haynes (i.e., Rumsfeld) “wanted to keep it much more close-hold,” Dalton said.
Dalton ordered her staff to stop the legal analysis. She testified that this was the only time that she had ever been asked to stop analyzing a request that came to her for review.
Haynes told the Senate committee, “There was a sense by DoD leadership that this decision was taking too long.”
On Nov. 27, 2002, shortly after Haynes told Myers to order Dalton to stop her review – and despite the serious legal concerns of the military services – Haynes sent Rumsfeld a one-page memo recommending that he approve all but three of the 18 techniques in the correspondence from Guantanamo.
Techniques like stress positions, forced nudity, exploitation of phobias (like fear of dogs), deprivation of light and auditory stimuli were all recommended by Haynes for approval.
On Dec. 2, 2002, Rumsfeld signed Haynes’s recommendation, adding a handwritten note referring to the use of stress positions: “I stand for 8-10 hours a day. Why is standing limited to 4 hours?”
In Line with the President
Rumsfeld’s approval of these techniques, over the objections of the top legal officers of all of the armed services, was in line with, and fleshed out, the “smoking gun” two-page executive memorandum signed by George W. Bush on Feb. 7, 2002. The Senate Committee concluded that Bush’s memo “opened the door” to subsequent abuse in interrogation.
In his memo, the President tried his best to square a circle. He declared that Geneva did not apply to al-Qaeda and Taliban detainees, but that they would nonetheless be treated “humanely and, to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity, in a manner consistent with the principles of Geneva.”
“Conclusion 1” of the Senate committee report stated:
“On Feb. 7, 2002, President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al-Qaeda or Taliban detainees.
“Following the President’s determination, techniques such as water boarding, nudity, and stress positions … were authorized for use in interrogations of detainees in U.S. custody.”
Much later, when Gen. Myers came to Washington to peddle his memoir, I had a chance to quiz him personally in public on May 12, 2009. [See: “Impertinent Questions for Gen. Myers” http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/051309c.html
“Gen. Myers,” I began, “you were one of eight addressees for the President’s directive of Feb. 7, 2002. What did you do when you learned of the President’s decision about exempting al-Qaeda and the Taliban from the protections of Geneva?”
Myers said he had fought the good fight before the President’s decision. The sense was, if the President wanted to dismiss Geneva, what was a mere four-star general to do?
And yet, in his book Myers claims, “Showing respect for the Geneva Conventions was important to all of us in uniform.” Right. What seems clear is that Myers was well chosen by Rumsfeld as a tall good-looking blue air force suit not likely to stand on principle. Sadly, none of the uniformed suits summoned the courage to speak out.
On Thursday evening, what Rumsfeld, Mukasey, Fleischer, and Medved seemed to be saying, in effect, was, “Principle. C’mon! Haven’t you heard? 9/11 changed everything.”
I can say that in preparation for attending the session, I subjected myself to a different sort of torture, reading Rumsfeld’s banal memoir on the train to New York. In case you were wondering, he apparently forgot to include in his book any mention of the Senate Armed Services Committee report on torture.
An earlier version of this article appeared first on Consortiumnews.com
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Show AllThanks, Ray, for your continuing excellent work. It's been clear at least since 9/11 that the executive and military have had zero regard for the law, and your article focuses on perhaps the most blatant disregard - the shrub's memo written by Yoo.
The author follows the bad guys across the street, a nice segue. It's awful that the Jewish Policy Center has the "Jewish" word, which drags all Jewish folks into the evil neocon ruling class. It should be renamed "Zionist" or something to distinguish the assholes from the many good Jews (e.g., Rabbi Michael Lerner).
Where's the outrage from the rest of the world, from the other signatories of the Geneva Conventions? Where's the outrage from the Red Cross, the churches, from the mothers of kids killed in Iraq by relatives of torture victims, from the many groups within Israel who are smart enough to fear the eventual blowback caused by extreme brutality? Are folks oblivious, misled (brainwashed), intimidated, or simply distracted by the latest results on American Idol?
I think the fact that this is held at a Jewish center speaks highly of AIPACS involement of 911.
I am also sickened by the fact that the cops, whose salaries WE PAY, remove us for using our 1st Amendment. It can happen here. It is happening here.
Thanks Mr. McGovern. Truly your efforts expose the aggressively hostile takeover of the u.s. by over achieving psychopaths whose sole intention is to seek and obtain higher levels of power and riches just for the sake of their benefit at the expense of others, just about the only trait they have in a functioning life, the other traits are absolutely no conscience, bankrupt of moral integrity(they could really give a shit) and very endowed with excellent acting skills for the really professional psychopaths.
Calling them down, as you with your background can do, is about the only way to slow these insidious people down as the absolute documented truth is what they cannot tolerate. A functioning law enforcement and judiciary is also necessary. But quit conveniently, these are or have been twisted to serve the very those very psychopaths to oppress the citizens.
Mr. McGovern, I hope you know that countless Americans support and commend your symbolic confrontations of the war criminal Rumsfeld. He deserves to know how many of us are deeply opposed by his torture regime which essentially occurred in the name of the American people.
The Senate report showing how torture was instituted by the Bush Admin. is important b/c it shows in clear detail the shameful role played by the military...the military must be held accountable not subserviently praised with absurd platitudes that the military is "defending our freedom".
Freedom is defended when anti-torture laws are enforced, the rule of law is not violated and torturers are held accountable. Several potential military war criminals who played major roles instituting the Bush torture regime are Gen. Michael Dunlavey, the commander at Guantanamo, SOUTHCOM commander Gen. James Hill, Gen. Richard Myers and the infamous torturer Gen. Geoffrey Miller.
My choice of the list presented as answers to why in your last sentence is "misled (brainwashed)". In my hometown, even on facebook, one must carefully choose with whom to discuss the issue. We in the choir seem to know each other pretty well.
Outside of those few, loud, raucous, coarse challenges that make little or no sense are what I get. I try to feel pity and compassion for the deluded, but it's very hard to work up those feelings. I've been cursed and scorned and ridiculed so much that Ray McGovern's mistreatment is all I expected. Where's the outrage? Hidden, suppressed, silenced. Tea-scented breath taints all the air and practically knocks one unconscious.
On Thursday evening, what Rumsfeld, Mukasey, Fleischer, and Medved seemed to be saying, in effect, was, “Principle. C’mon! Haven’t you heard? 9/11 changed everything.”
I have said this so many times over the past 10 years but I'll keep on saying it because I belived it to be true. Immediately one utters these words the 'terrorists' have won. Theu don't need to bomb, shoot, or DO anything. WE have done it all for them, we have 'changed eveything', once habeus corpus is suspended, likewise trial by jury, illegal search and seizure etc etc. we have played directly into their hands. Any hint of a potential 'attack' and its all sytems go as in the case of New York this weekend! Like Pavlov's dogs the conditioned repsonse is so very predictable causing disruption and costing money we don't have. Its a real mess and the MIC are making out like bandits from the fear, panic and general paranoia. Just as it was supposed to.
You're almost correct: The terrorists and the MIC are one and the same.
"...we have played directly into their hands."
This is true if you buy into Bush's "They hate us for our freedoms". I used to think this until it occurred to me that "they" don't give a damn one way or the other about "our freedoms". What "they" give a damn about is our power and materiality and the excercise and manifestation of those in their world. As to those, they have stretched us and weakened us and bankrupted us...or, rather, led us to stretch, weaken and bankrupt ourselves...and, in that way, we have played into their hands. That we have readily shed and trampled on our freedoms and principles (assuming we had principles) in the process is icing on the cake.
You can get a perspective on the whole world according to Rumsfield by watching "THX 1138".
Interesting that Ray notes the Class aspect of our growing 1984 world. It's something that Greenwald also muses on in today's excellent essay at Salon. It's also been interseting to note the very poor and sparce efforts to confront the fact that well over 1/3 of the nation knows the federal government facilitated the 911 attacks. And as I mentioned in a comment that was removed, it's a wonder that none of the Bush admin people, or Obama people for that matter, have been extrajudicially killed for their many crimes. Another aspect Ray reveals that brings a tear to the eye is the fact that the police actually defend those criminals from people demanding that justice be served. The USA has become what was feared during WW2--A nuclear armed Nazi Germany.
... that the police actually defend those criminals...
...defend those criminals and violently suppress protest, dissent and unionism. One of the police forces in my area sports as a motto on its cars "To Protect and Serve". I got a good taste of that protection and service at the FTAA protests in '03 (the precursor of all the anti-demonstration police abominations that came after). I don't think one cop called in sick rather than play storm-trooper on the people he was supposed to "protect and serve". They strapped on their riot gear and took up their anti-riot weapons and massed in ranks to protect and serve the moneyed interests.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1126-03.htm
The cops around the country (there was a notable exception in Madison) are showing themselves to be unionized scabs.
Much (sad) truth to your comment, Karlof1. I'd take it a step further: if 911 was the Inside Job (that many of us believe it was), then the entire "round 'em up" offshore prison gulag scenario is one of torture over NOTHING! Just a twisted, gruesome, sado-masochistic frenzy enacted in slow motion, drenched with profound homo-erotic elements. Many men identified strongly with militarism have so dis-owned feelings, the capacity for empathy, and what some would call their "feminine side," that having pushed masculinity to such an extreme, they're left to inwardly wrestle with covert forms of homosexuality.
I believe Bush, the lesser, qualifies; and this helps to explain why nudity was part of the torture picture. Literally.
The levels of depravity that were masked behind law, and perpetrated by persons in high places strains the imagination of moral human beings. Yoo is a monster, as is Haynes. Frank Zappa, were he spiritually enlightened, might ask, "Would you trade THEIR karma for what we have behind this curtain, staight from the latest show-room." Should we ask Amerika's "studio audience?"
Human beings are neither immortal, nor above the Law of Karma. It all eventually comes full circle. Those who misused their power for the purposes of seriously breaking other human beings down, will GET what is coming to them, magnified to the 10th power.
Hello Siouxrose, and thanks for your reply. It ought to be recalled that the same sorts of torture and justifications were used both during Korea and Vietnam, with the lineage traced back to the war waged against Filipino independence and racism against Asians/Colored peoples generally. And all that can further be traced to the Papal Bull that elevated Christians to the status of Human while all Others were rendered subhuman so their property could be stolen without any reservations as such conduct wasn't considered sinful.
When one looks to see where US Terrorists are commiting their acts of terror, they are all in countries whose populaces are non-white. Thus, it's easy to conclude that the Global War OF Terror is a Race War in the traditional Colonial sense. This fact is of course rarely commented upon but is true nonetheless. And it's very sad indeed that the NAACP cannot seem to see this glaring fact and denounce Obama for carrying on the White Man's centuries-long Colonial rapine. What's worse is the many colored people drafted into the Empire's Terror Forces don't realize they are working for the White Man and terrorizing their brothers and sisters until they return home, think about it, become depressed and kill themselves and often their families so they don't have to live in the Barbaric US Empire any longer.
KARLOF: I agree. I think it's fair to say that these exploits tend to be taken against the powerless. And due to centuries of racism, not only practiced by Amerika, the powerless tend to be people of color. (Haiti is the most notable example on view.) It stuns my imagination how a 6 foot 2, well-fed American soldier, equipped with all the latest weaponry, aiming at women and children, or Brown people of any age and either gender, can remotely think of himself as a hero.
It's about power. And in this case, as you related, power in service to resource extortion. It is organized crime hiding behind miliarism and state leaders who are lower than snakes in their moral development. I am beyond ashamed of the nation, feel such remorse for everything that is going on; and the fact that the same jingoistic assertions are being endlessly drummed up, along with atavistic celebrations for the HEAD of the alleged dead enemy, and so forth... only insures more of same. We are witnessing Hollywood's triumph over reason, Bernays' school of persuasion, over thought, reason, decency, AND morality. In short, we are watching the rot and decay of our nation.
As I often say (for it gives me a modicum of peace, in an otherwise terrifying world), karma will hold EACH to account for his level of complicity and willful intent to do harm. People with IQ's under 100, those profoundly programmed by a media that works its way into the unconscious mind, are far less responsible, even if they cheer on the madness, than the highly intelligent sociopaths who design these ends to justify their means.
I look to nature for solace, and find it there. How long will the seasons hold to their established borders, how long will the lands bear harvests and the waters run clean enough that they thus far only taint the margins, with illness creeping far more slowly into the bloodstreams of the multitudes?
I thought about the way food was once food, but now it's largely become an industrial equivalent. That leaders actually cared about The People, that economics generally functioned with a modicum of balance between corporate interests and those of civilians. That elections seemed to mean something, and our vote was sacrosanct. There are many more examples that point to the ways morality has turned to shit in this era... and as I've related previously, it is largely the MANTRA of deregulation that's responsible for gutting so many laws to make misery far more ubiquitous.
This is the nation's nadir... and will remain so for the next several years. What comes out of this morass is anyone's guess. Some of us still struggle to hold the Light of justice, decency, and balance. It's a task straight out of mythology. Like "women's work," the teacher's task is never done.
I wish I could be as optimistic, that this is indeed "the nation's nadir." I think that as was the case with Germany and Japan that our nadir will need to be imposed upon us--that the populace of the USA must be forced to see and admit to its unparalleled Barbarity committed--not just over the last 66 years--but for the whole of the USA's existence along with the spectacle of Judgement, like that at Nuremburg, for the many who considered themselves above the Laws of Civility. I'm reminded of the trial humanity is suddenly confronted with by Q, which would have had a much different outcome had it not been contrived by Hollywood.
But enough reminders of Barbarism. I send you a well deserved virtual hug, which is poor solace, but better than none.
The Yiddish proverb "choose your enemies well for you will become just like them" says it all. It takes the mystery what has/is/will happen to the former USA, now the UCE, United Corporations Empire, funded by the forced contributions, withholding taxes, by taxing labor and transferring the forced contributions to the WELFARE KINGS either in like kind and/or benefits, such as the Pentagon protection rackets scheme of protecting the worldwide assets of the wealthy & multinational corporations,many not even located in the USA.These WELFARE KINGS, pay no or little USG taxes and are Pentagon protected. Wall St., Wash. DC is the Axis of Evil, a criminal conspiracy of racketeering to commit worldwide unethical gangsterism. Al Capone was an ethical gangster, Al only protected those that paid for it.
...and capone had the good sense to run soup kitchens for the jobless and the hungry.
The torture aficionados should be shunned at every opportunity. On the streets, in the clubs, wherever they eat, drink, speak or live.
It's the least we can do.
CODEPINK's War Criminal Watch Calendar:
http://www.codepink.org/article.php?id=5145
Remember...
Gen, Antonio Taguba
... become acting director of the army staff during the Iraq war. He is the second highest ranking soldier of Filipino origin in the US Army.
He was appointed ...to inquire into the activities of the 800th Military Police Brigade at Abu Ghraib prison.
His report,...accused US soldiers of "egregious acts and grave breaches of international law" and chronicled a long list of "sadistic, blatant and wanton criminal abuses".
According to The New York Times, friends say his actions in exposing such abuses are typical of a man who sees the Army as a noble calling.
"If you want the truth, he’s going to tell you the truth," one US army general said. "He’s not bullied, he’s a stand-up guy."
The Times, London
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article421252.ece
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In June, 2008, Taguba was again in the headlines when he wrote the preface to a report by Physicians for Human Rights on prisoner abuse and torture at Abu Ghraib prison, in Guantanamo Bay, and in Afghanistan.[10] In it, he accused the Bush administration of committing war crimes and called for the prosecution of those responsible. He wrote, "There is no longer any doubt that the current administration committed war crimes. The only question is whether those who ordered torture will be held to account."
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Taguba
He was forced out...
He was forced out...and knew he would be...in fact, was told he would be. Think of that next time you see a picture of Petraeus with his chestful of medals.
I'll be glad when this ten year remembrance and sentimentalization festival is over. The meme, the myth, that on 9/11/01 the United States experienced an attack event so awful, unprecedented, and uncalled for that anything done in response to it is justified continues to be reiterated.
How many people were killed and mutilated at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How many were killed in all the Japanese and European cities that were "conventionally" bombed during World War II? Compare the body count in World War II between the United States and Russia. On 9/11, the U.S. took a hit and has been feeling sorry for itself ever since, pouting because the U.S. believes it is the "good guy" of nations, that we only strike in self defense when the other guy has struck first, that all the violence perpetrated by this nation is in the service of international "good." The "they bombed us and it wasn't fair!" chorus continues to sound.
It is possible that the events of 9/11 could have made the national consciousness "grow up," but that obviously didn't happen.
Same here.
Enlightening. Thanks, Ray.