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Howard Zinn: A Radical Treasure
I had lunch with Howard Zinn just a few weeks ago, and I've seldom had more fun while talking about so many matters that were unreservedly unpleasant: the sorry state of government and politics in the U.S., the tragic futility of our escalation in Afghanistan, the plight of working people in an economy rigged to benefit the rich and powerful.
Mr. Zinn could talk about all of that and more without losing his sense of humor. He was a historian with a big, engaging smile that seemed ever-present. His death this week at the age of 87 was a loss that should have drawn much more attention from a press corps that spends an inordinate amount of its time obsessing idiotically over the likes of Tiger Woods and John Edwards.
Mr. Zinn was chagrined by the present state of affairs, but undaunted. "If there is going to be change, real change," he said, "it will have to work its way from the bottom up, from the people themselves. That's how change happens."
We were in a restaurant at the Warwick Hotel in Manhattan. Also there was Anthony Arnove, who had worked closely with Mr. Zinn in recent years and had collaborated on his last major project, "The People Speak." It's a film in which well-known performers bring to life the inspirational words of everyday citizens whose struggles led to some of the most profound changes in the nation's history. Think of those who joined in - and in many cases became leaders of - the abolitionist movement, the labor movement, the civil rights movement, the feminist revolution, the gay rights movement, and so on.
Think of what this country would have been like if those ordinary people had never bothered to fight and sometimes die for what they believed in. Mr. Zinn refers to them as "the people who have given this country whatever liberty and democracy we have."
Our tendency is to give these true American heroes short shrift, just as we gave Howard Zinn short shrift. In the nitwit era that we're living through now, it's fashionable, for example, to bad-mouth labor unions and feminists even as workers throughout the land are treated like so much trash and the culture is so riddled with sexism that most people don't even notice it. (There's a restaurant chain called "Hooters," for crying out loud.)
I always wondered why Howard Zinn was considered a radical. (He called himself a radical.) He was an unbelievably decent man who felt obliged to challenge injustice and unfairness wherever he found it. What was so radical about believing that workers should get a fair shake on the job, that corporations have too much power over our lives and much too much influence with the government, that wars are so murderously destructive that alternatives to warfare should be found, that blacks and other racial and ethnic minorities should have the same rights as whites, that the interests of powerful political leaders and corporate elites are not the same as those of ordinary people who are struggling from week to week to make ends meet?
Mr. Zinn was often taken to task for peeling back the rosy veneer of much of American history to reveal sordid realities that had remained hidden for too long. When writing about Andrew Jackson in his most famous book, "A People's History of the United States," published in 1980, Mr. Zinn said:
"If you look through high school textbooks and elementary school textbooks in American history, you will find Jackson the frontiersman, soldier, democrat, man of the people - not Jackson the slaveholder, land speculator, executioner of dissident soldiers, exterminator of Indians."
Radical? Hardly.
Mr. Zinn would protest peacefully for important issues he believed in - against racial segregation, for example, or against the war in Vietnam - and at times he was beaten and arrested for doing so. He was a man of exceptionally strong character who worked hard as a boy growing up in Brooklyn during the Depression. He was a bomber pilot in World War II, and his experience of the unmitigated horror of warfare served as the foundation for his lifelong quest for peaceful solutions to conflict.
He had a wonderful family, and he cherished it. He and his wife, Roslyn, known to all as Roz, were married in 1944 and were inseparable for more than six decades until her death in 2008. She was an activist, too, and Howard's editor. "I never showed my work to anyone except her," he said.
They had two children and five grandchildren.
Mr. Zinn was in Santa Monica this week, resting up after a grueling year of work and travel, when he suffered a heart attack and died on Wednesday. He was a treasure and an inspiration. That he was considered radical says way more about this society than it does about him.

29 Comments so far
Show AllThank you Bob Herbert.
A wonderful tribute. You expressed what many of us feel right now. I felt Howard's smile as I read. Thank you Bob and thank you, Howard.
RE: "He was an unbelievably decent man who felt obliged to challenge injustice and unfairness wherever he found it. What was so radical about believing that workers should get a fair shake on the job, that corporations have too much power over our lives and..."
I appreciate what Bob Herbert is saying here, why should a decent man be considered radical? Unfortunately, however, in our society a decent person, who acts upon their decency, IS a radical. This says far more about our society and its massive complacency to injustice than it does about Howard Zinn.
I fully agree. No need for me to add
Sioux Rose
Tom/Socialist: I, too, agree.
There's a saying that "only the good die young." I am glad that Mr. Zinn led a full life and was here on this plane to add his wisdom and unadorned capacity for truth-telling all these decades. He will be missed; but his words and the insights he left behind will retain a form of immortality.
What was it that Orwell said? "In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act" Is that quote correct? What you and Herbert said reminds me of that quote. I bet Howard and George would have gotten along well.
The mainstream of our culture awards value in inverse relaltion to authenticity. We dismiss the profound. We promote the inane. In this context, one can only feel pride in being labeled a radical.
A clear-headed, compassionate human being writing about another clear-headed, compassionate human being. Good stuff.
Beautiful words, Mr. Herbert, for a beautiful man. A good man witty and wise and profound and insightful and... I run on and on but Zinn was so much.
Great is not strong enough a word to describe Prof. Zinn. Maybe magnificent?
Gary
"It is possible, reading standard histories, to forget half the population of the country. The explorers were men, the landholders and merchants men, the political leaders men, the military figures men. The very invisibility of women, the overlooking of women, is a sign of their submerged status."
-- Howard Zinn, A People's History of the United States (1980)
A People's History is an inspiring, uplifting work. It's intention isn't to expose the underbelly of America so much to me. It's about how regular people reacted to it and came together even in the most desperate, divisive, volatile times to fight the elites.
Howard Zinn will continue to be a role model for future generations. His iconic stature will surely grow, and I think In the USA, there are few people that can measure up to Howard Zinn.
When I was very young, my Mother and my teachers all tried to instill a sense of fairness and justice in me.
I recall a time when the "good guys" in the movies and on TV never killed anyone... torture and physical duress were the sole domain of the bad guys, when "news" people considered it very bad form to allow their personal opinions to show, when excessive displays of success in sports were considered "unsportsmanlike", and when people were considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
To me, the idea that Howard Zinn should be considered a radical and people like Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck should acheive great fame and fortune defies logic.
Vaya con Dios Howard... some of us will miss you greatly!
If Howard Zinn were alive and reading the Obama trashing comments here, he would call for everyone of you to get your collective asses together and do something about it rather than whine in campaign mode 24/7/365/4. You have the power to change so get to work and quit complaining.
You don't know me very well. I don't sit here and complain every day unlike most of you. I'll tell you what I do about it and I'll pass that proposal on to you. Earlier I mentioned to someone else that I don't know which of you take the time to contact your representatives and the White House but I do and I do it a lot. They may suck but if you want something, you got to join in and put pressure on Congress and the president. People did it to Congress and FDR when he was president so it can't fail. I take the time to contact my representatives, both senators, the President, my governor, my state legislators, and my mayor and inform them of my opinions on how they're doing and suggestions for improvement. I also take the time to organize in the community and attend local meetings on addressing climate change, fixing our tax codes, helping the unemployed cope up and find employment, supporting local efforts to keep the roads, school, bridges, and all well maintained, and plenty more. I don't waste time trashing a president endlessly. If everyone who trashes Obama endlessly were to get involved with community services and organizing, they would find themselves posting worthwhile comments talking about how they addressed the problem, what they did, and give helpful recommendations. That would be a progressive community to appreciate instead of the cesspool of endless Obama trashing.
I understand that you don't like either the Republican or Democratic Party. I'm not enthusiastic about what Obama has done either but I am glad that he has acknowledged his mistakes and is trying to change. We all know Obama's inadequacies but before we can say what people want, we must remember his accomplishments. Unlike Bush rushing the nation into wars, Obama is doing the right thing on diplomacy. At least he's pulling troops out of Iraq, Iran doesn't get a peep compared to what Mccain would have done, gas prices aren't going too high, and he's trying to address climate change and it makes me feel guilty to own an SUV which I use for business purposes. He did pass a stimulus bill to try to ease the pain but I don't know yet what my taxes will be until I get my W2s together and find out. The stimulus bill could have been better but it was better than Reagan or Bush's stimulus bills. He is trying to revive public transportation but the conservatives are trying to derail reform. I don't support Obama's move to send troops to Afghanistan but Afghanistan and Iraq he inherited from Bush. Afghanistan should be left alone completely because the Afghans are like Wall Street. Both of them mooch off of Obama without a thanks. I don't appreciate Obama putting single payer out of sight but even public option isn't going anywhere so single payer would have been tougher to pass. I know he has been a disappointment but I still say we give him some more time and then decide his fate in 2012. I'll campaign harder for Kucinich if it gets bad enough by then.
What happened to good people on this site like quickstopper, Ted Markow, and highkarate? They used to be here to remind everyone that you have the power to change and stop complaining.
What are you doing to address the collective action dilemma? If you claim to be a follower of Zinn, you would know that change comes not from voting in a corrupt system where there is no genuine democratic process.
You sound like a typical apologist for the status quo and the so-called Democratic Party. Zinn advocated speaking out (what you call complaining) grass-roots civil dis-obedience.
My suggestion: Read the Peoples' History of the USA, you either have not read it or you forgot the main themes of the book.
I don't support the status quo but what's the guarantee that third parties will alter the status quo? If I want to vote third party, I want that third party to stop bashing the Democrats and tell us what they will do once in office. Until I can be convinced that third parties will mature and be winnable, I'm stuck voting Democrat. I'm sure Zinn meant that speaking out wasn't limited to online forums. I can reach out to even the Michelle Bachmann conservatives in my neighboring district and interest them in progressive ideas. I don't have any problem with protesting and civil disobedience as long as it's peaceful. I'm not a rich guy like Zinn. I'm a construction worker and a repair man and I have to travel a lot. When I'm not working, I spend time with my family and I get together for local meetings and bring in progressive ideas to contribute to the community. There's enough to do peacefully and progressively so I'll leave the civil disobedience to the dare devils.
Then quit complaining and accept the status quo. Oh, and don't claim to know about Howard Zinn as your post reflects your ignorance.
Silly twaddle you say? Really? You may disagree with me but that doesn't mean I don't know what I am saying.
If what I said is not diplomacy, then what is the diplomacy that you want Obama to follow? I'll be glad to read what you want and if it sounds good I'll demand Obama to consider it.
When I compared Wall Street to Afghanistan, I was talking in abstract terms. If the Afghans are anything like our Wall Street financial titans, we're screwed. They'll simply take every resource we've got, not change or fix anything, and then require more. I don't support staying in Afghanistan. Let the people have their own government.
Your remark that getting in touch with my representatives is the mindset of a naive schoolboy is the same as saying that democracy is a dumb idea. We should just complain online and let them do what they want with no feedback? I don't know your alternative but you're not making any sense. How is Obama supposed to know which direction to go if nobody but the right wing are taking action to pressure him. I may be disappointed in Obama but give the poor man a chance and help him out and let him know. If there are more progressives to counter pressure from the right, Obama will get the message and move left. That's how democracy works.
I already completed high school but I didn't have to go to college just to be a construction worker and an appliance repair specialist. Haven't you considered trying to repair a party before chugging it for a new one?
I told you that it was abstractions that make Wall Street and the Afghans nearly identical in costs and doing nothing but asking more. All I said was both are asking more and doing nothing with their handouts.
So you say the ruling class won't allow progressives who will listen? So if the ruling class will only allow bought whores, then what will stop them from buying out third parties? I am convinced that it is better to repair the Democratic Party and continue pushing it to the left.
RichM, apology accepted. Thanks for explaining the two party system. I think I see what you are saying but isn't there a possibility that enough of both the Republicans and Democrats will be ready to move to a third party and then the ruling class will find ways to corrupt that third party provided they give up and let that third party win? I suspect that the Tea Bag Party is being used by the ruling class to trick third party goers into falling for them. Third parties are nice but I just don't see any chances that they will win, don't know what they can guarantee they will do, and am unsure that they are free from corruption either. I might be naive but I think we're locked in a voting corner with fewer choices psychologically speaking.
Pathetic at best to use the great Zinn's passing as a platform for self-righteous scolding.
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You don't understand Howard Zinn's bottom-up approach to building a democracy. Read my response to RichM and then try calling that self-righteous scolding.
It sounds like you missed the point
My local paper, the Wisconsin State Journal, gave Zinn's death one column inch. Jean Simmons, the actress, got about 12 inches plus a photo.
It's all about priorities.