Paranoia Strikes Deep
Last Thursday there was a rally outside the U.S. Capitol to protest pending health care legislation, featuring the kinds of things we've grown accustomed to, including large signs showing piles of bodies at Dachau with the caption "National Socialist Healthcare." It was grotesque - and it was also ominous. For what we may be seeing is America starting to be Californiafied.
The key thing to understand about that rally is that it wasn't a fringe event. It was sponsored by the House Republican leadership - in fact, it was officially billed as a G.O.P. press conference. Senior lawmakers were in attendance, and apparently had no problem with the tone of the proceedings.
True, Eric Cantor, the second-ranking House Republican, offered some mild criticism after the fact. But the operative word is "mild." The signs were "inappropriate," said his spokesman, and the use of Hitler comparisons by such people as Rush Limbaugh, said Mr. Cantor, "conjures up images that frankly are not, I think, very helpful."
What all this shows is that the G.O.P. has been taken over by the people it used to exploit.
The state of mind visible at recent right-wing demonstrations is nothing new. Back in 1964 the historian Richard Hofstadter published an essay titled, "The Paranoid Style in American Politics," which reads as if it were based on today's headlines: Americans on the far right, he wrote, feel that "America has been largely taken away from them and their kind, though they are determined to try to repossess it and to prevent the final destructive act of subversion." Sound familiar?
But while the paranoid style isn't new, its role within the G.O.P. is.
When Hofstadter wrote, the right wing felt dispossessed because it was rejected by both major parties. That changed with the rise of Ronald Reagan: Republican politicians began to win elections in part by catering to the passions of the angry right.
Until recently, however, that catering mostly took the form of empty symbolism. Once elections were won, the issues that fired up the base almost always took a back seat to the economic concerns of the elite. Thus in 2004 George W. Bush ran on antiterrorism and "values," only to announce, as soon as the election was behind him, that his first priority was changing Social Security.
But something snapped last year. Conservatives had long believed that history was on their side, so the G.O.P. establishment could, in effect, urge hard-right activists to wait just a little longer: once the party consolidated its hold on power, they'd get what they wanted. After the Democratic sweep, however, extremists could no longer be fobbed off with promises of future glory.
Furthermore, the loss of both Congress and the White House left a power vacuum in a party accustomed to top-down management. At this point Newt Gingrich is what passes for a sober, reasonable elder statesman of the G.O.P. And he has no authority: Republican voters ignored his call to support a relatively moderate, electable candidate in New York's special Congressional election.
Real power in the party rests, instead, with the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin (who at this point is more a media figure than a conventional politician). Because these people aren't interested in actually governing, they feed the base's frenzy instead of trying to curb or channel it. So all the old restraints are gone.
In the short run, this may help Democrats, as it did in that New York race. But maybe not: elections aren't necessarily won by the candidate with the most rational argument. They're often determined, instead, by events and economic conditions.
In fact, the party of Limbaugh and Beck could well make major gains in the midterm elections. The Obama administration's job-creation efforts have fallen short, so that unemployment is likely to stay disastrously high through next year and beyond. The banker-friendly bailout of Wall Street has angered voters, and might even let Republicans claim the mantle of economic populism. Conservatives may not have better ideas, but voters might support them out of sheer frustration.
And if Tea Party Republicans do win big next year, what has already happened in California could happen at the national level. In California, the G.O.P. has essentially shrunk down to a rump party with no interest in actually governing - but that rump remains big enough to prevent anyone else from dealing with the state's fiscal crisis. If this happens to America as a whole, as it all too easily could, the country could become effectively ungovernable in the midst of an ongoing economic disaster.
The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter. Something unprecedented is happening here - and it's very bad for America.
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Show Allthere is talk of Left & Right Wings co-existing together as usual but instead of a peaceful and quiet co-existence, they appear to be more at odds with each other rather than living in harmony!
isn't it about time they just separate and go their own ways?
can't they live on their own resources independently without ever screwing and harming each other like a father and son who don't even love each other anymore?
world is still a large place and has enough room for everybody, or is it not like that anymore?
where can we really go to get rid of this cat and mouse game between L & R after all?
"....
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down"
-- Buffalo Springfield "For What It's Worth"
Thanks for the lyrics to that song. That song was running in my mind when I had read the title of this article. :)
"What all this shows is that the G.O.P. has been taken over by the people it used to exploit."
Oh, I don't think so. Them whackjobs are sheep, serfs, born to follow not to lead which is the reason why you always find them in herds (or is it flocks?) and following the likes of Beck, Limbo, Fallwell and Robertson. What else can be expected from adults who still play with invisible friends?
However, I do agree that they are no laughing matter. These people are very scary and even more dangerous. If left to their devices, they'll take us all back to The Dark Ages in record time.
My replies seem to be blocked because the server for CD is down.
But just in case I can post a new comment here to Steve, I am not related to Paul Glover that I know.
To Amfotas/Jill,
Nobody says thinking or organizing globally is not needed.
That is a stawman argument of yours.
But local is how to start.
Even on a national scale America is in trouble because it thinks everything has to be global so that it never gives time to fix it's own problems of the people.
One sided thinking is not helpful because it is unbalanced and runs from reality.
Think globally and act locally is good advise. Maybe living overseas and having the money to travel about has given you a superiority complex to conquer the world with "Big thinking".
If progressives are the problem to you, who are your friends?
"If progressives are the problem to you, who are your friends?" –(Jim Glover)
Progressives are the problem because, as I have assiduously laid out, too many are actually rightists who are unable to see that they are just that.
That should be obvious to you as how else could you explain the wretched failure and capitulation of American progressivism to the current fascism? It was never up to the task because it was unprepared ideologically or theoretically. It had no program other than a proscriptive and tepid reformism that has now been crushed from within its very own ideations and by its own political institutions. And the current state of the American nation? Look in the mirror, my friend? Go have a bake sale and sell some pink lemonade and call it 'local' organizing!
There is no 'real' left in America because those who claim to be 'left,' still define themselves by the yardstick of the Democratic Party, or a few miniscule degrees of separation from it either way. Progressives are anything but 'left' except within the reactionary nexus of American politics. They are charlatans and poseurs because they cannot categorically reject and negate their own bankrupt ethos. Progressives cling to their security blankets like scared children, afraid to break the umbilical connection to the fascism which still suckles them and to whom they willingly default to in their patriotic fervor.
You and your friends don't like being reminded of that so you try to marginalize me as an agent provocateur, a 'troll' or some kind of paid operative. You are so sanctimoniously insecure in the righteousness of your progressivism you see all criticism of your hollow program as being inspired by nefarious agendas bent on sabotage. You're damn right I'm a nuisance because I remind you that you are a political cipher. Progressivism is not the be all and end all and the sooner you jettison that conceit there might be some hope for you in the future. You don't have to worry about being 'subverted' from without; you do too good a job of that yourselves.
I have many friends who are 'Progressives' in the sense you would label yourself, but none of them are what I would call 'political' friends.They know that I hold their politics in utter contempt so we discuss things like how best to fertilize parsnips or what Broccoli Raab seed produces the best and biggest budding clusters. Or our kids go swimming together at they local YMCA. Or we make beer together. I show them how to make Vietnamese dumplings from scratch and use esoteric Asian vegetables and herbs. But we don't talk about politics.
My true political friends are mainly expats of various types with a decidedly 'internationalist' leftist bent and working agenda. Beyond that who my friends are are none of your business. I don't know what interest it would be to you? You sound a little too nosy in a way that is simply inappropriate in a blog. But I'm not going to say like your pathetic cohort Steve Greenfield did when he attempted to smear me by innuendo that you might be working for The Department of Homeland Security? But then after all, you are a 'Progressive' so I wouldn't put it past you.
I could care less who your friends are and mine should be of no concern of yours.
The best seed for Broccoli Raab is Fratelli Ingegnoli 'Sessentina Grossa' from Italy.
–(Jill Bains)
I tend to believe that politics is just a diversion, that is meant to divide us along ideological lines. When, in reality, we are divided along economic lines.
Look at this statement by Krugman:
"Once elections were won, the issues that fired up the base almost always took a back seat to the economic concerns of the elite."
So, I can take it from that statement that it is not really about democrat vs. republican or liberal vs. conservative. But, elites vs. the rest of us.
We need to start a new party one that represents the economic concerns of the middleclass. The MC of A. ( Middleclass of America).
I think George Carlin had it right when he said:" The wealthy have all the money. The middleclass does all the work and pays all the bills. And the poor? Well, the wealthy just keep them around to scare the hell out of the middleclass". I believe that is how things are really divided up in America.
The middleclass needs to start fighting for it’s share of the wealth it creates. Stop being fooled by people in the media that work to divide us along political lines. When the real lines are economic.
Good point Rick. The wealthy 1% have divided and conquered America along political lines and they love it that way! I have suggested for along time, that we need a third party that is divided along economic means. Since the super, wealthy, elite are only about 1% this would be the only way I can see for a healthy coalition of Americans on the right and left to form a strong and viable third party. It probably will not happen unless the sheeple wake up, but it sure would scare hell out of the war mongering, let them eat cake crowd!
What the hell happened to the Republican controlled Congress techniques, when they rolled right over Democrats and passed whatever they wanted ? What about all that talk about removing the filibuster from the Senate, the "nuclear" option? Who cares about bi-partisanship with mutants and farm animals?
For the sake of the country, the Democrats have to play hardball and realize the old rules are over. Elections have consequences. Have the FEC investigate FOX News for illegal campaigning activities. Have the FCC go after wingnuts on the radio. Who cares if they scream bloody murder, have the Secret Service take them out if there are any guns in sight at the next "rally".
I don't want my kid's future ruined by low IQ fascists.
"I don't want my kid's future ruined by low IQ fascists." –(Herodotus)
–You don't?
Then by high IQ fascists in suits with pedigrees from Harvard, Yale and Stanford?
"Elections have consequences." No they don't. Here is some American Civics 101 for you:
"If elections had consequences they would be illegal." –(Emma Goldman)
–(Jill Bains)
What all this shows is that the G.O.P. has been taken over by the people it used to exploit.
-- article above
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The high IQ fascists used to exploit the low IQ fascist wannabees - using people like Glenn Beck to rally the rubes around the GOP, so that once in power, they can rule to benefit the CEO's.
Now, the lunatics are running the asylum.
But if you're interested, there are multiple things that I don't want ruining my kids' future.
"Elections have consequences" -- George W. Bush, right after 2004 elections
I'd *like* to see that smug saying used against his ilk. Emma might be right, but there's always a first time for anything. Given the huge campaign contributions raised by "average people" over the Internet, I'm hoping the usual suspects have less influence on politics than they used to.
Ungovernable, indeed! Starting with Reagan, from Califonia!, we have been on a horrible slide where the fanatics have made governing an obscene and greedy - me first! - enterprise, as in corporations that have fueled this American tragedy.
Karita Hummer
San Jose, CA!
Mr. Krugman: I beg to differ, America is not starting to be Californafied, it was Californicated a long time ago!
"Californiafied"?
Oh my.
I suppose one is always the last to know.
I feel like a such a noob here. Folks, straight up, what does Mr. Krugman mean?
Alright, I have seen the signs on the 10 in Arizona: "You are leaving California. You may return to normal." But that's not really clear. After all, one may ask what "normal" is to a country that at least claims to consider Barack 0bama moderate.
I do admit that I have no apology adequate to Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan (though Henry8, if you're out there, I think you guys might have levelled the score in 2000). And let's hope the governator's career gets buried in Sacramento.
Come on, Mr. Krugman, what does that mean?
. . . the country could become effectively ungovernable . . .
This nation is already effectively ungovernable, i.e., ordinary people get virtually nothing for their tax dollars except death and waste. The cabal of swindlers and their latest shyster mouthpiece, Barack Obama, take nearly all of it. And it is no longer possible to believe a word the government (whether run by Republicans or Democrats) says, including the words "a" "and" and "the". It's not just "very bad for America"; it's fatal.
Yes, the longstanding behavior of ignoring mainstream majority US citizenry policy positions on a wdie spectrum of issues proves what was goverening and in what interest--criminals bribed by elites for elites. This is a major componenet of today's crisis, and it's remarkable it's not mentioned by Krugman, but is by Chomsky, although they largely agree about the danger posed by the right.
I disagree - the US is very governable.
The draconian PATRIOT Act sailed through.
govern |ˈgəvərn|
verb [ trans. ]
control, influence, or regulate (a person, action, or course of events)
Jill, Earthian, et al:
Organizing is easy. You don't have to take a class. In my town we have a progressive coalition that is non-partisan and serves both as issue-advocates and, when appropriate, a campaign team for progressive candidates regardless of party affiliation. We have accomplished tremendous things from early 2003 to present, despite being few in number.
As far as I know, there is an organization for many years in Madison, Wisconsin, called Progressive Dane. You can google them. They too are non-partisan, or poly-partisan, and maintain their loyalty to their agenda rather than to anyone's machinery or lesser-evil distractions. They manage to advocate AND be electoral. The trick is developing a flair for knowing which one is the best to use in which situation, but there is math that helps with that, experience of others who have gone before you, and of course, practice, practice, practice.
The fact of the matter is, if every town had one of these, at least 50% of them would have great success, and full national influence, like that developed by the Christian Coalition starting back under Reagan, would follow. They, too, were once a collection of churches all over the nation, with little political influence and a flock that, at first, while very devoted to their beliefs, considered participating in street movements or elections to be "worldly." Their leaders worked to change their minds about that. Now look.
So it can be done. What you can do that's much better and faster than looking for an organizing class is to just randomly start up a group where you live. You don't have to choose your program ahead of time. For starters, just make a group, and meet socially, and agree to meet once a week at the same time at the same place, like any bowling team, or AA group, or church. If you get that going and growing, putting a program together will gradually come to you, collectively, based on what will get a response in your own community, which may be very different from mine. You can bounce ideas off existing groups elsewhere who may know things that have worked, and through that process, your group slowly links up with others, and then, one day, without a Messiah, we'll agree to get together at regional conventions to really coordinate and improve, and then you know what? We'll actually have a movement, a real movement that can exercise influence, and nobody will be in charge of it. Just like AA, everyone is autonomous. But through shared goals and commitment to achieve them, we pull together as a team, and we'll start winning.
I offer our insights at www.commonplans.blogspot.com. There's contact information there if you'd like to follow up.
Steve
PS: to those who need a gentle reminder, don't feed the trolls. They're not here to help us streamline our time and effort, nor are they here to have their minds changed about anything by our insightful badgering of them. Let's stay on task and only argue with each other :-)
SG
"PS: to those who need a gentle reminder, don't feed the trolls. " –(Steve Greenfield)
One man's troll is another's avatar. So don't be shy about naming names.
I hope you are not referring to the poster known as 'metal?'
For since I've been around this neighborhood his work is clearly among the most edifying and is never less than illuminating.
Curiously, where I come from 'trolls' would be those such as yourself and Earthian.
–(Jill Bains)
Curiously, when i hear the word troll, I think of you.
You rant against getting together locally and progressivism on a progressive site.
When you say "Curiously, where I come from 'trolls' would be those such as yourself and Earthian.
–(Jill Bains)"
So, the only question that remains for me is, where do you come from?
Jim:
First a question. Are you related to Paul Glover?
Second: Jill Bains is a full-time troll. The person going by that name is all over the internet, annoying people on numerous discussion sites quite severely. You can google it yourself. This is not a person with a program that happens to differ from ours who is trying to show us how we could do better. This is a troll, a deliberate nuisance. Whoever he or she may be trolls throughout the web against leftists who are trying to discuss their programs, or forming programs. For all we know, s/he is getting paid for this. Many people are. I'm sure you've heard of COINTELPRO, which is more about disrupting than spying. And not all COINTELPRO is from the feds, either. There are plenty of private wealth centers with healthy interests in disrupting progressive opposition, too. Whether someone just having fun, or actually on a payroll, the score comes only when we reply. That's why I don't do it. I'm busy with my work.
When we reply, we are giving him or her what s/he wants, which is the time we could have used doing something productive, even if that would have just been communicating with someone who shares your values instead of with someone who doesn't. There are a couple of right-wing trolls on board here, too. Left or right, they are here to disrupt. They only succeed if we get disrupted, and since we're in control of how we use our own keyboards, we can only be disrupted if we volunteer for it. Please refrain from feeding the trolls. Let's feed only each other -- there's too little food to go around to eligible progressives until we grow a bit more.
Lastly, local organizing is the only way to get started. If you had billions of dollars from the Koch Foundation and an entire media network devoted exclusively to your cause, you could possibly try to jump-start thousands of locals all at once. But we don't, and luckily, on the local level we don't need it, because your immediate neighbors already know you and should be willing to hang out with you while you collectively develop your local program. But whether progressive struggle were to happen all at once, top down, with lots of money, or whether it forms one town at a time, the bottom line is movements are about people, and people live in places, so the local place is the basic unit of any movement. Start a group. And when you do, just as here on this board, never feed the trolls.
Steve
www.commonplans.blogspot.com
"So, the only question that remains for me is, where do you come from?" –(Jim Glover)
–Presently we live and work in a city on the West Coast of the U.S. We live for most of the year in Northern Laos, North Vietnam and sometimes also in France. My perspective is decidedly international in scope. American myopia is so self enforced that it cannot see the 'forest for the trees.' It remains invisible to many who remain inflicted by it.
American Progressivism is dead. It remains loyal to and referenced through the very system it criticizes. It is bound by reformist parameters of a short-sighted nature and is undermined by a flaccid sentimentality of vision. Despite vestigial traces and remnants here and there, it has no future. Its provinciality dooms it to irrelevance.
This fixated chauvinism– hidebound in dedication to tightly circumscribed 'local' politics– remains ideologically backward and pridefully so. This 'pride' is the product of the same American exceptionalism which haunts and distorts so much in America and remains impervious. This is why so many such as yourself remain inordinately sensitive to criticism of its tenants: It appears non-sensical to you, when it is anything but.
The Common Dreams blog still hosts reactionary American Progressive points of view, but has the possibility to transcend them in time. So there is hope. I don't see it entirely as a 'progressive' blog. If that were the case it would be insufferable and not worth reading. The Obama catastrophe is enlightening many to push the envelope further left and move beyond the moribund dictums of Progressivism.
There is also the fear that in a time of crisis the hidebound organic conservatism which haunts American progressivism will roll itself over and side with the forces of reaction against truly radical alternatives. Such inbred nationalism runs deep in the American psyche even amongst supposedly 'alternative' or oppositional groupings. There is a reflexive 'love of country' that remains obscenely inviolable and inhibiting. These instincts are reified in Americans, almost as matters of course.
Thank you for correctly labeling me an 'anti-progressive troll.' Progressivism is a right wing construct which remains unconscious of itself as such. The sooner that reality is understood and jettisoned the discourse can move to higher, more exigently radical grounds.
Progressivism is an old scaly carapace, a shell of the past that needs to be shed for the new chrysalis of the future to emerge.
–(Jill Bains)
Steve, what you say makes good sense to me. Any progressive organizing locally can only be good for progressives.
In my case I'm especially interested in organizing for progressive *political* unity. In Kansas, a group of us in 2004 created a progressive caucus in the state Democratic Party. We have a growing membership and good participation at state party meetings. We all recognize that the party is a coalition of progressive Democrats and non-progressive, corporate Dems. Eighteen other states have done the same. Such organizing sets the stage for progressive unity within the Democratic Party *nationally* for the first time. Of course, America has only one national party that is progressive: The Green Party. And I enjoy working with them too, such as working on their Platform Committee. Organizing within the Democratic Party, The Green Party and smaller progressive parties may help us reach a critical mass whereby a national alliance or coalition of progressives that could provide a forum, a voting bloc, and a decision-making body to enable us to lead ourselves.
I agree with you on the Trolls as well. They are just distractions.
"Any progressive organizing locally can only be good for progressives." –(Earthian)
This is a dated nostrum of received wisdom that is hopelessly antiquated. In fact, it is a reactionary bromide of near nausea inducing tedium.
Organizing "locally" is hopelessly naïve and provincial, if not quaint. Organizing 'internationally' should be substituted for the enforced myopia of the 'local' which is indeed the signature motif of the failure of American progressivism. When idealization of the 'local' assumes prominence over the 'international' what results is a degenerate nationalism if not chauvinism.
The current state of America should provide adequate and conclusive testimony to that implacable failure. Progressivism cannot be resuscitated by Pollyannaish wishful thinking and kindergarten lollipop conclaves. In fact, Progressivism is a leaden yoke, an Albatross on the neck of the future. More an archaism than a living or forward looking entity.
The concept of 'the local' is still beholden to the failed precepts and conventions of a 19th Century American democracy based on a village model. This failed strategy operates under the very principles which account for its fundamental incoherence and recidivistic, backward looking naïveté. It is nothing but a soporific palliative, a dead end, one way ticket to nowhere.
The resistance against the American malaise must be international in scope and solution.
You might as well hold a neighborhood bake sale and sell pink lemonade.–(Jill Bains).
It's going well for the "despots" of power. The banksters, the MIC and all the special interests that suck our nation dry with the help of the duopoly that masquerades as a democratic government.
Krugman still shills for the The Powers that Be with his Democrats are the voice of the people, Republicans are bad, propaganda. Krugman's old tricks, the truth that Republicans are bad and the lie that Democrats are for the people is Krugman's "the truth" that covers "the lie" formula.
Why can't Krugman label it what it is "Disaster Capitalism"? ... That's right, Disaster Capitalism is now being imposed on America ... Krugman tries to blame a minority of Republicans, but who is killing banking reform, continuing and escalating foreign wars, is on board with more domestic spying and refuses to investigate war crimes? The Democrats that's WHO!
Anybody who has watched Obama and the Democrats knows they are Bush's 3rd term. Health Care Insurance? Didn't Bush get Medicare Part 'D" through the Congress? The current Health Care Bill is all about protecting the profit and monopoly of Big Pharma and Heath Care Insurers once again!
Yes Paul Krugman, the situation is scary. It is scary because the bottom 80% have no representation whatsoever. The bottom 80% is being savaged by both the Dems and the Rethugs ... And even YOU, shill for the " Disaster Capitalism" that loots and pillages our nation ....
Sometimes Paul Krugman can write better articles but this one stinks to the core. Krugman talking about the GOP when he should be discussing the Democrats as you laid out appears to be a hobby for him. PK should take some time off his "busy" schedule and read Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" before he annoys us with another Democrat Party Apologist article.
Krugman is playing his "Council on Foreign Relations" role well.
Krugman is part of the problem, not a real observer. This whole "Californication" ruse is to obfuscate the fact that the US Congress and the White House are controlled by the Democrats.
The same "Special Interests" control both parties and Krugman tries again and again to bury this fact. Krugman is using the same fear tactics to drive people to a party that does not represent America's best interests ... the Democrats.
Again I'll say it ... The Democrats coddle the banksters, vote for higher military spending and more war, use health care to enrich Big Pharma and Insurance Companies, refuse to stop increased domestic spying and investigate war crimes.
This just goes to show you where CFR member Paul Krugman stands ... with the "shadow government" and the elites that run it ...
Krugman still shills for the The Powers that Be with his Democrats are the voice of the people, Republicans are bad, propaganda." –(mmckinl)
Correct. Paul Krugman is really not worth being taken seriously.
–Republican fascism is what it has always been; it is not the problem. It is a known quantity of the general American pathology. The Democratic party is the problem. What kind of a party is so incoherent and ideologically diffuse that its electoral majorities are composed of temporary and opportunistic defections from those who would just as soon vote Republican? The oscillating vagaries of the American electorate always default to fascism. The democratic party can only be 'fertilized' from the right, never the left.
More so than even under the regency of Bush, Obama has provided a sort of final coup de grâce, imposing an even deeper layer of hopelessness than have the Republicans. Deeper, because it finally exposes the wretched truth of the Democratic party's willing collaboration in the destruction of the country. There is no where to go anymore. There are no politics in America. It is all now obvious, well beyond arguable disputation.
In fact, it can be said that Obama has finally resolved the contradictions and reconciled America unequivocally to fascism, completing the devolution. He has 'settled' or finally 'centered' things. Reform or change in America is now an impossibility. The options have been foreclosed.
The give and take, push and pull of the farcical American political dialectic has been settled. The final hopelessness has come at the hands of a government totally in Democratic control. There is now more a sense of the pure 'finality' of hopelessness than before. That acknowledgment was not rendered courtesy of Limbaugh or Beck, but by Obama and a spiritually enervated Democratic party.
Fascism is no longer a 'figure of speech' in America but has attained a material, totalizing immanence one institution at a time. The destiny seems tragic only in that it seems inevitable, almost Oedipal in its intractable fatality.
–(Jill Bains)
"Correct. Paul Krugman is really not worth being taken seriously."
But, so many people do ... and indeed this is why I respond when one of his columns ends up here at Common Dreams.
I am not all that sure of America's destiny, though your reasoning, ceterus parabus, makes sense. I see much trouble ahead that defies any easy analysis for outcomes.
The choice we certainly have for an orderly transition of the powers that be is that of iron fist or velvet glove fascism. That would be their choice. But as the situation devolves there will be drawn the blood of the elites at the hands of elites and that is when it will get interesting.
Those in power may wish for an orderly disposition, but as is said "There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip" ...
Great article. I surfed a bit and found this:
http://www.privatization.org/database/whatisprivatization.html
(which gives a helpful/skewed? definition of privatization)
This page:
http://www.privatization.org/about.html
should help give some info for you bloggers as well. Especially the part where it states names of politicians who seek advice from this Privatization Center. :-)
Thank you again Mr. Krugman for correlating what is currently happening to our government with California. Maybe one day the Democrats and Republicans will figure out that there is a need for a multi-party platform in our government. ROTFLMAO!
Btw, is there any way we can slip something into the food to keep people from staying stupid? Or would we have to get authorization from the FDA and make sure a pharm company can retain all the rights? Wait, that's the government and corporations working together, which never seems to work for the American people...
"Btw, is there any way we can slip something into the food to keep people from staying stupid?"
you mean an antidote to Aspartame?
Nice try. I have fibromylagia and other conditions thanks to aspartame...
my sincere commiserations.
my dear wife has fibro.
we have, however, always avoided aspartame or any chemical sweetener.
Try stevia. It is a natural sweetner and doesn't cause diabetes at all. stevia.com and stevia.net explains it all as well as politics that stifled it sort of. Aspartame came thanks to Rummy.
"Aspartame came thanks to Rummy."
His reward from Ronnie for chumming up to Saddam.
The exquisite irony here: Rummy espoused a Lean Machine Army.
(More hitech, fewer grunts.)
Aspartame, as well as suppressing the will, leads to obesity.
I have noticed the pattern where aspartame is used. For regular overprocessed junk sweets, candies, cakes, etc ... HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is used. The "sugar free" versions simply replace HFCS with aspartame. After I learned about these various sweetners, I stayed away completely from "diet sodas" and "sugar free" whatevers. I believe aspartame and HFCS are both derived from petroleum. Some anonymous caller somehow got the FDA to ban stevia and then a few years later, the ban was somewhat uplifted. Stevia can only be sold as a dietary supplement. Even the manufacturers that want to include stevia instead of HFCS or aspartame in their products aren't allowed to do it in the US. Imagine how much the obesity rate would go down not to mention health care costs had stevia not stayed this restricted. :(
Paranoia indeed once again we see a group of people demonstrating that we are not the intelligent rational beings that we claim to be. Fear rears it's ugly head again,and again. I do believe it's time to burn some witches. No need to turn back the clock to the dark ages. Let's face it no one believes in the tree gods anymore that would be stupid. On the other hand we do believe in evil,because everyone knows the devil is real. A big bad buggerman hiding under your bed waiting for the dark of night,to feed on your fear, and trick you into his hellish trap. Do you believe in magic,can you bend a spoon with your mind? In the last century governments killed hundreds of millions of people,most of them women,and children. Yet we continue to view them as moral authorities. Eighty five percent of Americans claim to be Christians. Most can't state there own commandments,or find them in the bible. Let alone follow them. Thou shall not kill. What is so hard to understand about that command? The articles,and comments on this post are based on the assumption that people are rational. This is a basic flaw,we believe ourselves to be rational,and reasonable. We are not! Politicians know this,as do religious leaders,bankers,and other con men.We are the product of fear based belief systems going back through thousands of years of ignorance. Be afraid the gods are angry,quick let's sacrifice someone weak,and powerless. The foreseeable future will be more of the same human misery on a massive scale.Created by humans,for humans in the name of a loving,and caring GOD! I'm done now please continue to wallow in your pious ignorance. Good Day!
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
So, basically its a choice between sacrificial Aztec blood & steroids basketball with silicone cheerleaders in the religious true name of Mammon or classic agnostic Star Trek liberal utopia couched in a modified form of Participatory Economics.
Earthian,
You wrote: "...we need a non-violent, constitutional, progressive revolution, not against rabid authoritarian conservative protesters but the plutocratic corporate regime itself." I completely agree with this thought and course of action.
First off we lack a Constitutional govt. at this time. This isn't the work of tea baggers it is our ruling elites, or the plutocracy, if you prefer, who benefit and perpetuate lawlessness. I don't understand why this doesn't scare people far more than tea baggers. We have war and financial criminals running our govt. We still employ people who brought down the economy in top decision making positions. These people should be in jail, not directing the economy. We have people who committed torture running the wars and domestic/international intelligence operations. There is still torture at Gitmo and we are still doing extraordinary renditions and illegal domestic spying. Again, why aren't these people in jail? Why isn't this scaring Paul Krugman? You can't have a nation where the rulers are untethered to the rule of law and expect it to do other than fail. We have a Constitution and we need to uphold it.
I also agree any actions we take must be non-violent. If we act with violence the govt. can just sit back while we destroy each other and get on with business as usual. In fact, I believe, the govt. actively seeks to incite violence by stirring up both the tea baggers and progressives who do react in a knee jerk way, hating the tea baggers but failing to see any better than they do, the real cause of what is happening in this nation.
And there were many comments about using a progressive agenda to unite people of many stripes. I think many of us realize we are being screwed but don't recognize by whom. The moment we unite to bring about a common good, this corporate state is done.
"We lack a Constitutional govt. at this time" you say. My reply is to agree at one level. You point out, accurately, that in the economic and foreign policy realms, we have lawlessness. Absolutely. Article 6 (2) declares that "treaties made" are the "supreme law of the land," treaties which include the UN Charter which forbids the "threat or use of force" against other nations, and the Convention Against Torture which forbids torture of any kind in any circumstance, as does our own Bill of Rights. And then there is spying as you point out. We DO need to uphold it, at one level.
At another level, we need to update the document as well, with something like FDR's Second Bill of Rights. Why? To make up for its deficiencies. The Preamble is clear, and the first six articles that form our government undermine the promise of a more perfect union via liberty, justice, the common defense, the general welfare and domestic tranquility. How? We have never had a national referendum on anything, not even president. The Senate is grossly disproportionate. (17 women of 100; a Wyoming senator represents 200,000 people and a California senator represents 18,000,000, a 90-to-one ratio, etc.) The two-party system is mandated by the structure of the legislatures, excluding minor parties from representation. The Senate's conservatism through disproportionate representation creates the Supreme Court's conservatism, leading to Buckley v. Valeo in 1976 turning money into speech, and more. The amending article, Article V, allows half of the 26 legislatures of 13 states, representing as little as five percent of the US population to veto any constitutional amendment. (See Dan Lazare's Frozen Republic and Sanford Levinson's Our Undemocratic Constitution.)
The idea of a non-violent, constitutional revolution is to uphold the rule of domestic and international AND to fix the system to get rid of minority, corporate rule. We need an end to the minority, plutocratic rule of the corporate state or regime. A multiparty system via proportional representation with public financing is what so many nations have chosen. We should too.
For any such revolution to happen, it would require us to do what you call for when you say "The moment we unite to bring about a common good, this corporate state is done." I agree. How do we do that? Politics is power. So I think progressives need to unite POLITICALLY. That will require a strong presence of progressives in state Democratic Party in progressive caucuses *and* a growing Green Party, *and* support for local progressive parties like the Vermont Progressive Party. Six years ago there were no progressive caucuses in state Democratic parties. Now there are 19. (See the list under links and resources at the CPC website.)
Once we have a growing number of progressive political organizations in the Democratic and Green Parties, there would be nothing to prevent us from forming an alliance uniting those groups with independent progressive leaders to help us form plans for activism, between-election political tactics, strategies for our voting bloc, electing progressives in primary elections, threatening incumbents with third party challenges, and more.
These are the choices available to us (and others that we can think of) OR we can simply submit to corporate rule. Hmmmm . . . what should we do?
It is the clarity of your identification of our very scary adversary that makes your argument so important in relation to Krugman's misplaced fears.
"See Dan Lazare's Frozen Republic and Sanford Levinson's Our Undemocratic Constitution.)" –(metal)
–These two books, especially Daniel Lazare's, are quite simply essential reading for anyone hoping to understand America and you perform a service to presciently recommend them here.
–(Jill Bains)
Thanks. I'd also add Steven Hill's 10 Steps to Repair American Democracy and Robert Dahl's How Democratic is the American Constitution?
Fixing the system via electoral and constitutional reform is the key bridge issue that will make sense to many people—progressives, moderates, evangelicals and others left out or hurt by the system. But, as you suggest, it takes a bit of reading. And such reading is well worth it.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
How do YOU suggest going about achieving this progressive unity of which you speak?
"Those in possession of absolute power can not only prophesy and make their prophecies come true, but they can also lie and make their lies come true." -Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
We need to get out there and mingle with the multitudes, build bridges. If we did that, we could form a powerful alliance, despite the lies.
We must remember, a majority of Americans wanted a single payer health care system or at the very least a strong public option that anyone can sign on to. 70% of Americans say global warming is a threat. 4 out of 10 say it's a serious threat.
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While the takeover of the extreme right-wing is indeed a scary as hell prospect, keeping the Democratic Party in its current form in power is not the alternative. The Dems are not as psychotic, but they are still accelerating our destruction by their steadfast support of conservative policies on nearly all fronts. They will not stop our slide toward a police state, will not stop our militarization of foreign policy, and will not stop corporations from poisoning us in pursuit of their profits.
But what can we do? Progressives have no national leaders right now, at least not any currently in power.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
What can we do? ORGANIZE TO FORM AN UMBRELLA PROGRESSIVE PARTY TO UNITE ALL AUTHENTIC AMERICAN PROGRESSIVES AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
And that's why I'm going to workshops on grassroots organizing with CCAN this month, starting this Saturday. It's not something I have much experience in.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Excellent! Outstanding! Another good way to learn how to organize is to go to the US Social Forum or attend an American Friends Service Committee meeting and get with one of their sub-groups. But any practice you can get working with a progressive protest group is a good place to start. The colleges have several groups that are teaching how to organize. Students for a Democratic Society has been semi-reincarnated and are learning about this.
Krugman: "the country could become effectively ungovernable in the midst of an ongoing economic disaster." Yes, because its been so 'governable' in recent years (/sarcasm).
Is Krugman aware that in CA you need a 2/3rds supermajority to pass a budget or raise taxes? Effectively, one Republican is worth two Democrats in that state. The fact that it doesn't have a functioning Democracy might have a LITTLE to do with CA gridlock. Democracy only works when people are forced to face the consequences of their actions. But if the GOP can prevent the state's business from being done from a minority position, then they effectively get to direct policy without being blamed for directing policy (how could they be blamed, they are the MINORITY party?). It's actually a WIN-WIN for them.
So, for 30 years, the media line is that CA is broken, and in all that time its been a majority DNC state. Who is going to be blamed for the mess? This is why I dislike the GOP, they play the role of anarchist very well. If they don't get a majority position, they make sure nothing can get done. They've gotten so good at this they don't even WANT a majority position. The people they represent, the wealthy, actually do quite FINE when the government falls on its face.
What can you say?
A handful of wingnuts gets front page attention and millions of demonstrators on the street are invisible.
Increasingly, we and our interests are being ignored.
The Right was totally discredited when Obama and the Democrats were voted in, but the Right has been able to channel very real anger because Obama has demonstrated that he could care less. The anger is totally ignored, misrepresented and channeled via partisan allegiance. It is preferrable to have the anger limited to a fringe element easily manipulated--in that way it can be marginalized.
It is essential to suppress and misdirect the anger.
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
My next door neighbor 20-something is in an Americorps program right now with a dinky stipend. He has so many 20-something roommates helping to cover rent and utilities I'm not sure how many there actually are now. He hasn't had a real job in over a year and a half. But the Americorps people sure are loading him up on pro-Obama economic happy talk. I tried to tell him of the electoral threat posed by the far-right combined with voter dissatisfaction with Obama's banking policy, unemployment, etc., and his response? "No, that could never happen." I replied, "That's what many people said about Nixon's chances in early 1968."
The sad irony is we would be lucky to get a domestic policy moderate like Nixon in power after Clinton, Bush II and Obama. At least Nixon voted to extend many aspects of LBJ's Great Society programs and significantly advanced environmental protections--something no DLC Dimocrat would do today and no Republican.
Krugman here recites what is becoming an increasingly absurd catechism – the media’s story about the “crazies” who fear and oppose so-called “health reform.” That the so-called “progressives” have bought into this transparent effort to divide and manipulate public opinion for the benefit of the insurance industry reveals the bankruptcy of so much “progressive” politics. Working people have every reason to fear and oppose a bill that seems guaranteed to raise costs and reduce benefits – that every step of the way has been compromised by industry lobbying...
If Limbaugh and Beck are repulsive, they nevertheless speak to fears that have been proven valid again and again, i.e. that the Democratic Party has lost all touch with the common people, and is now a fully-owned subsidiary of the corporate oligarchy. Rather than dismissing these fears, the progressive Left should be offering people a better explanation of why they’re losing ground economically. Instead, by doing what Krugman and so many others do, we only add to people’s resentment of their dispossession by policymaking elites...
There is today in the U.S. the possibility for a new coalition of working people, but we are blowing it by ridiculing the “teabaggers.” For a fine discussion of this issue, see Arthur Silber: http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/11/tribalism-and-destructive-politics-of.html
"Limbaugh and Beck... speak to fears that have been proven valid again and again, i.e. that the Democratic Party... is now a fully-owned subsidiary of the corporate oligarchy" Do you listen to Beck? How could the DNC be a corporate whore while 'teeming with communists'? There's a logical disconnect there that I just don't get. I don't deny that both parties are corporate whores, but Beck's message is that Stalin just took back the government, NOT Exxon.
Well Beck is right about the Wall Street corporations owning the Dem party. And yet it's all still communism, according to him, even though the richest capitalists in the country are getting everything they want.
Beck just can't get drunk enough to call it Corporate Communism.
and after another 8 or so years of Repubs, the Dems will look good again
and nothing will change.
it's the old good cop/bad cop routine.
Wow! you literally took the words outta my mouth (or vice versa), see response below, posted at virtually the same time.
and another poster - Earthian - identified the same game at exactly the same time as you! spooky.
that more people don't see through this is mind boggling. same old cycle every four years or so. give the new guy a chance, get disillusioned and try again. what a con. and MOST third parties are just deputies.
do you ever check out www.wsws.com?
it's where I go for serious analysis.
I agree with so many others who see through the idea that it is the people in the demonstrations that will destroy our country. It is not. It is the oligarchy, people who come from both parties. The oligarchy will use people like those who demonstrate to hide the fact that basically, they believe exactly the same extreme ideas as the demonstrators. The difference is, they have the power to inact their beliefs.
If you think I am making this up read Jeff Sharlet's. The Family or Sheldon Wolin on our elites love of Leo Struass. Our elites are bat guano crazy. The tea baggers are as nothing compared to the elite's level of insanity. While the hate mongering among these crowds must be condemned, what we cannot afford is to be distracted from who is actually in power and what they are doing. The elites hold philosophies of power that our poor, middle and working class will die for. As others have pointed out, look at the deals their actions on health "care", the wars, the environment, the financial industry--etc. These are the people I fear and if anyone needs strong condemnation, they do.
Jill - That was my reaction to this article by Krugman. The article is steeped in the consciousness of one who is economically comfortable and who considers social liberalism as the pinnacle of enlightenment.
I will continue to question whether I am too cavalier about the dangers of the crazy right and their potential to distract and to influence mobs of the discontented. But they seem like small potatoes compared with the ACTUAL activities and the ACTUAL harm being caused by the banks, insurance companies, military profiteers and their enablers in both parties. The politicians use reasonable sounding phrases like "considering all options" and then go ahead with the most rapacious and insane policies and plans.
Joe
"But they seem like small potatoes compared with the ACTUAL activities and the ACTUAL harm being caused by the banks, insurance companies, military profiteers and their enablers in both parties." –(jclinetelle)
–This is correct. They, the troglodyte right wing, are "small potatoes" in comparison. They are a fragment of the larger fascist continuum.
One must also never forget that this kind of rabble fascism does not come to power without the backing of the banks and the higher echelons of finance capital.
One is reminded of Daniel Guerin's classic analysis "Fascism and Big Business," and the rise of the Nazi's in Germany and how deeply imbricated it was with the German ruling classes.
–(Jill Bains)
"...we cannot afford is to be distracted from who is actually in power and what they are doing." -- Jill
I, too, have read Jeff Sharlet's, The Family, and Sheldon Wolin's, Democracy Inc.: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism. Both books are very frightening!
"The tea baggers are nothing compared to the elite's level of insanity." -- Jill
I agree with you -- and the "tea baggers" are a perfect distraction. They are angry and they are being encouraged to act out their anger and to keep it coming, so to speak! M$M broadcasts their rallies, etc., creating a spin and ubiquity that are tough to challenge.
In addition, I read a book by Paul Babiak and Robert D. Hare, Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work. The authors illustrate why our corporate culture is saturated with cut-throat behavior. In the United States, these men, who are mostly white men, are rewarded for their nasty behavior, earning enormous salaries and benefits, as they claw their way to the top, gaining more and more power as they climb the ladder of success.
A few months ago, I watched a documentary -- The Corporation. This film should be mandatory viewing -- and the DVD version includes additional interviews.
Jill, I think you are directing attention in a very smart direction with your comments. It is a kind of good cop (who you call elites) and bad cop (the rabid conservative, authoritarian protestors) routine. (At the level of style only.) My only suggestion is to reflect on the labels used to categorize the non-progressives of whom you write. I think that "oligarchy" and "elites" are not the best terms. I do like Wolin's term "totalitarian" to describe the system, although I think Charles Derber's term "corporate regime" is better. (His book is titled "Hidden Power".) Both together—totalitarian corporate regime—is even better than either alone. I think "plutocracy" is a bit better than "oligarchy."
Following your logic, we need a non-violent, constitutional, progressive revolution, not against rabid authoritarian conservative protesters but the plutocratic corporate regime itself. And I think it best when we reveal, as you have done, the true adversary of progressives, that we describe What Is To Be Done, thus the reference to revolution, above. But "revolution" must be qualified as progressive, non-violent, and constitutional, for if not, it conjures up images of the French Revolution, with its violence, which is a non-starter. The decent side of the American public, a sizable majority (Google "progressive majority") will not support revolutionary violence of any kind.
I'd like to know your thoughts Jill on these ideas.
"But "revolution" must be qualified as progressive, non-violent, and constitutional, for if not, it conjures up images of the French Revolution, with its violence, which is a non-starter." –(Earthian)
As wheedling a piece of unctuous, sentimental nonsense as I've yet read on this blog. Worthy of decrepit, moribund sites of liberal tedium like the "Daily Kostapo" or the "Hullabaloo" blogs.
You want a 'decaffeinated' revolution, good 'liberal' that you are. Revolutions are not folded out like origami patterns or pre-arranged to suit the tepid tastes of bourgeois civil libertarians. Where there is revolution, there is counter revolution and hence violence.
Revolutions are never 'qualified' in advance by tendentious pedants and ivory tower academics arguing 'constitutional' niceties. Historically this ilk enlists readily in the cause of reaction, if not counter revolution.To wit:
"What do those who want neither Virtue or Terror want: They want corruption." –(Saint Just)
"If the spring of popular government in time of peace is virtue, the springs of popular government in revolution are at once virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is fatal; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing but prompt, severe inflexible justice; it is therefore an emanation of virtue..." –(Maximilien Robespierre)
Try reading Arno J. Mayer's magisterial histotical intervention: "The Furies: Violence and Terror in the French and Russian Revolutions." (Princeton 2000).
–(Jill Bains)
Yep, it's all about the Class War. I just declared war on Goldman Sachs, or what was generally known as the Money Power 100+ years ago. Yes, 100+ years ago. The Class War has been going for a long time and the other side's been winning too long.
I've come to the conclusion that it's us against them--no holds barred, no quarter given--as that's how we've been treated for far longer than 100+ years--that the only good Plutocrat is a dead Plutocrat. That sentiment may offend the folks wanting to win the Class War through non-violence, a goal I think impossible to achieve given our enemy's use of lethal force so often.
I can't for the life of me figure out what Krugman means by "Californiafied" in relation to some rabid Right-wing Republican demonstration with its usual inappropriate graphic paraphernalia, in this case a photo from the Holocaust. Even if he intended "Californicated", the meaning is inapt. I have to wonder if he has personal issues with the Left Coast. That, at least, I could understand since I myself have personal issues with the enduring East Coast bias in our media.
Beats me.
It may have something to do with the old "California, land of extremes" twaddle.
K seems pretty NYC/NYT monied "liberal-democrat" as opposed to progressive, Dem or otherwise. He is a cautious commentator, and not less so when he is inaccurate. He seems to approve of the current dead whale 1900-page health insurance bill, so he probably lumps the teabaggers together with principled holdouts like Kucinich or Bernie Sanders as "extreme."
Apparently K experiences groups of people who don't accord with what I suspect is his self-described moderation as "Californian" in their simultaneous accord and variety.
I dunno. I hope someone has a better explanation.
Margaret Atwood's cautionary novel 'The Handmaid's Tale' is bearing bitter fruit.
She foresaw where the US could go over 20 years ago. So far she is pretty dead on.
She predicted a world of rampant ecological disaster, repressive religious government in the US, and looming civil war.
Have fun now.
The Republicans will protest anything that the Democrats are about to pass but this protest that Krugman talks about is entirely irrelevant. If the Republicans were in power, this same bill would have passed and quietly and the Democratic activists would be doing the protesting. Whenever the Republicans do takeover, they will do nothing to remove this legislation other than weakening the Public Option when their insurance buddies bug them to. Feel free to distract us with fake paranoia from the GOP while ignoring the real outrage from the public that will find out the fraud that this bill really is. As usual, we the taxpayers will pay more taxes directly or otherwise and receive no bang for the buck.
I agree, the D/R Duopoly is just a phony charade of "good cop, bad cop". They are both working for the Corporate Mafia.
The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter.
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Wrong.
The takeover of the Republican Party was accomplished by the Democrats.
Escalation of Afghanistan, corporate Insurance instead of health care, Patriot Act renewal, coverup of torture and war crimes, domestic spying, assassination by drones, military commissions, bank bailouts etc.
Dirty deeds once largely the domain of the Republicans now done dirt cheap by the party of the working man.
The irrational Palin crowd, with an assist from the media, simply pushes the scale further rightward, rendering the liberal/conservative debate meaningless.
And all this, so obvious, escapes a man with a Nobel Prize?
"Those in possession of absolute power can not only prophesy and make their prophecies come true, but they can also lie and make their lies come true." -Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
The Democrats, now standing stark naked in the light, are busy manufacturing the lies, and here is Paul Krugman, making prophecy.
Krugman nails it. The crazy violent GOP is scary and could come to power far more easily than we might think. That would be a true nightmare.
"Californicated" would have been better than "Californiafied", though, but I am sure Krugman thought of that and could not get it past the editors.
Krugman, fail. Last Thursday, a coward shot up Fort Hood. "The crazy violent GOP..."? Please be rational with your slurs.
When you create a vacuum, it pulls in all kinds of garbage.
Krugman likes to blame the right, but the vacuum is being created by the Democrats.
The Democrats are stuck, because they serve the same masters as the Republicans. The Republicans are discredited, so the masters handed the ball off to the Dems. Ha Ha!!
I'm convinced that if Democratic leaders would actually do something progressive, many people would support them--including many of those lost souls on the right. And I think that would probably spell the beginning of the end for Limbaugh and the rest of his slimy crew, too.
But the Dems will never do anything significant, and the Limbaughs of the world know it.
So how come the Krugmans don't?
New Jersey is explained by paranoia? Maybe somebody is overdue for a gold pocketwatch.
Maybe the goal of the right is to make the country ungovernable. Ungovernable means the status quo and that means corporate dominance.
The Democrats are the new Republicans therefore the Republicans are still in power.
The over-the-top demonstrations of the Sarah Palin crowd merely serve to push the country even further to the right.
A scheme that'll deliver 40 million new customers to corporate insurance is labeled "socialism'.
And you can honestly say the corporate right is losing?
Yes Cygnus. Truly absurd. American English no longer means anything. We watch in amazement.
The strong engine currently driving this absurdity is not the silly little princess Palin. It is the Pentagon and PSYOPS. But the source of absurdity will be found in the beginning of America; amongst its premises. Perhaps it is Puritan exceptionalism.
Other than this I really do not know how to help.
It is an unhappy time.
"Those in possession of absolute power can not only prophesy and make their prophecies come true, but they can also lie and make their lies come true." -Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
and they're way ahead of us.
You're preaching to the choir.
I've posted here numerous times about Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's infiltration of the media.
Raw Story recently revealed that the Pentagon Pundit program exposed by the NY Times may still be in operation.
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/pentagon-officials-confirm-bush-propaganda-program-ended/
We have only propaganda.
The news is gone.
And with it Democracy.
It is now awfully apparent what the result is when the vaunted "compassionate" women and minorities are presented the pinnacles of power: the same DEM thing - no justice (Pullosi Punch and Judy CONyas, WITH the Bushists) and no peace (or even PROMISED single-payer peace of mind - Buffalo Soldier-in-chief, Barracks Obomber)!
This is the same liberal crap that characterizes all the articles about the 'right' that I see on CD, but I'm surprised to see Krugman wasting his time regurgitating the same idiocy.
The hoi polloi right is not paranoid ! The US is being destroyed from the ground up. The economy is being destroyed. The schools are being destroyed. The racial makeup is being destroyed. Culture is being destroyed. Marriage is being destroyed. Civility is being destroyed. The mythic figures, Washington, Jefferson, et. al., are being destroyed. The mythology is being destroyed. Religion is being destroyed. Life itself is being destroyed by the abortionists.
Many of the rights' calamities are cheered by 'liberals' like Krugman. That does not lessen their impact on the right.
Well, that should do for now. You get the idea. You may not agree with the rights' leaders, or their philosophy, or their opinions on current issues, but to call them paranoid, in view of the above list of calamities, is idiotic.
And this destruction of America that you describe, how is that a bad thing?
The USA is being destroyed from the inside out,not from the ground up.
The economy is destroying itself, because that is the nature of ponzi schemes.
The schools are being destroyed, hmm could be past tense on that one.
Culture is being destroyed? the destruction of bacteria is a good thing.
Marriage is being destroyed? Marriage is a concept which is solely dependent on the behavior of the participants and or, that you might be a closet gay.
Civility is being destroyed because it is used as a facade to cover the truth.
The mythic figures are being destroyed, because, well, illusions generally implode.
Religion is being destroyed because the participants insist on exclusivity, which is a violation of physics, where two or more absolutes cannot occupy the same space.
Life itself is being destroyed by the abortionists. I'll have to agree with you on this one.
[And this destruction of America that you describe, how is that a bad thing?]
Paraphrasing Diz, if you don't know, I can't explain it.
[The USA is being destroyed from the inside out,not from the ground up.]
Well, it ain't the ground up, inside out is closer, you're right.
[The schools are being destroyed, hmm could be past tense on that one.]
Ain't that bad enough for you?
[Culture is being destroyed? the destruction of bacteria is a good thing.]
Wow. European culture, science, music, art, etc., is the glory of the human race. It has made us gods almost, able to conquer everything except death. To not understand this EMPIRICAL reality indicates you are some sort of hopeless ideologue.
[Marriage is being destroyed? Marriage is a concept which is solely dependent on the behavior of the participants and or, that you might be a closet gay.]
Who said I'm in the closet? (Joke). Marriage is being destroyed, you may think that's a good thing, but surely you can understand that there is another point of view.
[Civility is being destroyed because it is used as a facade to cover the truth.]
Nope. Civility is it's own virtue. It doesn't hinder the discovery of truth.
[The mythic figures are being destroyed, because, well, illusions generally implode.]
Well, it's the dancing on the graves that is a little distressing.
[Religion is being destroyed because the participants insist on exclusivity, which is a violation of physics, where two or more absolutes cannot occupy the same space.]
There are a lot of inevitable factors destroying religion. But in the US Christianity is under deliberate attack by, let's call them non-Christians. The problem here is that Christianity is the basis for whatever morality exists in the US. It ain't perfect, but it's better than nothing.
[Life itself is being destroyed by the abortionists. I'll have to agree with you on this one.]
All righty.
we all believe in something allan it just may not be what you
believe. and actually a stronger argument could be made that
christianity killed america. just check out "the family"
jerry falwell dobson etc. every religion is really about
controlling people!
You were your own best rebuttal with that paranoid, racist rant. BTW, I am a Liberal, Jefferson and Washington were Liberals, Ike was a Liberal, etc. Liberal is only a "dirty word" to paranoid right-wing nutjobs.
This "fringe element" is running the discourse in this country, and the Obama administration is cowering under their attacks. Van Jones' firing and ACORN are just two examples where these bullies have won, without even a modicum of a "fight" from the Obama administration.
At a time when the country truly needed a "bold" leader who would take on these "crazies," Obama has allowed these people to control the national discourse which could lead to disastrous results.
How do you know the whole thing wasn't scripted from the beginning. Our political leaders are just shills, meant to cajole an ignorant population.
"Those in possession of absolute power can not only prophesy and make their prophecies come true, but they can also lie and make their
lies come true." -Eric Hoffer (1902-1983)
jbarret1-
caught an old "All in the Family" show the other day, first time I've seen it in years. Realized the GOP is now run by Archie Bunker, the Dems by Michael. The US public is Edith and Gloria. We are so screwed.