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Afghanistan by the Numbers: Measuring a War Gone to Hell
Here may be the single strangest fact of our American world: that at least three administrations -- Ronald Reagan's, George W. Bush's, and now Barack Obama's -- drew the U.S. "defense" perimeter at the Hindu Kush; that is, in the rugged, mountainous lands of Afghanistan. Put another way, while Americans argue feverishly and angrily over what kind of money, if any, to put into health care, or decaying infrastructure, or other key places of need, until recently just about no one in the mainstream raised a peep about the fact that, for nearly eight years (not to say much of the last three decades), we've been pouring billions of dollars, American military know-how, and American lives into a black hole in Afghanistan that is, at least in significant part, of our own creation.
Imagine for a moment, as you read this post, what might have happened if Americans had decided to sink the same sort of money -- $228 billion and rising fast -- the same "civilian surges," the same planning, thought, and effort (but not the same staggering ineffectiveness) into reclaiming New Orleans or Detroit, or into planning an American future here at home. Imagine, for a moment, when you read about the multi-millions going into further construction at Bagram Air Base, or to the mercenary company that provides "Lord of the Flies" hire-a-gun guards for American diplomats in massive super-embassies, or about the half-a-billion dollars sunk into a corrupt and fraudulent Afghan election, what a similar investment in our own country might have meant.
Ask yourself: Wouldn't the U.S. have been safer and more secure if all the money, effort, and planning had gone towards "nation-building" in America? Or do you really think we're safer now, with an official unemployment rate of 9.7%, an underemployment rate of 16.8%, and a record 25.5% teen unemployment rate, with soaring health-care costs, with vast infrastructural weaknesses and failures, and in debt up to our eyeballs, while tens of thousands of troops and massive infusions of cash are mustered ostensibly to fight a terrorist outfit that may number in the low hundreds or at most thousands, that, by all accounts, isn't now even based in Afghanistan, and that has shown itself perfectly capable of settling into broken states like Somalia or well functioning cities like Hamburg.
Measuring Success
Sometime later this month, the Obama administration will present Congress with "metrics" for... well, since this isn't the Bush era, we can't say "victory." In the style of special envoy to the region Richard Holbrooke, let's call it "success." Holbrooke recently offered this definition of that word, evidently based on the standards the Supreme Court used to define pornography: "We'll know it when we see it."
According to Karen DeYoung of the Washington Post, the Obama administration is reportedly rushing to "preempt Congress with its own metrics." It's producing a document called a Strategic Implementation Plan, which, DeYoung writes, "will include separate 'indicators' of progress under nine broad 'objectives' to be measured quarterly... Some of the about 50 indicators will apply to U.S. performance, but most will measure Afghan and Pakistani efforts." These are to include supposedly measurable categories like numbers of newly trained Afghan army recruits and the timeliness of the delivery of promised U.S. resources.
The administration is evidently now "tweaking" its metrics. But let's admit it: metrics in war almost invariably turn out to occupy treacherous terrain. Think of it as quagmire territory, in part because numbers, however accurate (and they often aren't), can lie -- or rather, can tell the story you would like them to tell.
The Vietnam War was a classic metrics war. Sometimes it seemed that Americans in Vietnam did nothing but invent new ways of measuring success. There were, for instance, the eighteen indices of the Hamlet Evaluation System, each meant to calibrate the "progress" of "pacification" in South Vietnam's 2,300 villages and almost 13,000 hamlets, focusing largely on "rural security" and "development." Then there were the many indices of the Measurement of Progress system, its monthly reports, produced in slide form, including "strength trends of the opposing forces, efforts of friendly forces in sorties... enemy base areas neutralized," and so on. For visiting congressional delegations, the commander of U.S. forces, Gen. William Westmoreland, had his "attrition charts," multicolored bar graphs illustrating various "trends" in death and destruction. Commanders in the field had their own sophisticated ways to codify "kill ratios," while on the ground, where the actual counting had to be done in dangerous circumstances, all of this translated far more crudely into the MGR, or, as the grunts sometimes said, the "Mere Gook Rule" -- "If it's dead and it's Vietnamese, it's VC [Vietcong]." In other words, when pressure came down for the "body count," any body would do.
The
problem was that none of the official metrics managed to measure what
mattered most in Vietnam. History may not simply repeat itself, but
there's good reason to look askance at whatever set of metrics the
Obama administration manages to devise. After all, as in the Vietnam
years, Obama's people, too, will be mustering numbers in search of
"success"; they, too, will be measuring "progress." And those numbers
-- like the Vietnam era body counts -- will have to come up from below
(with all the attendant pressures). By the time they reach Washington,
they are likely to have the best possible patina on them.
With the delivery of those new metrics to Congress seemingly imminent, I thought I might offer my own set of Afghan metrics for the worst year of the present war. Think of this as basic math for Americans. (All figures cited below are linked to their sources. If a figure has no link, just click on the nearest previous link.)
Costs
Annual funding for U.S. combat operations in Afghanistan, 2002: $20.8 billion.
Annual funding for U.S. combat operations in Afghanistan, 2009: $60.2 billion.
Total funds for U.S. combat operations in Afghanistan, 2002-2009: $228.2 billion.
War-fighting funds requested by the Obama administration for 2010: $68 billion (a figure which will, for the first time since 2003, exceed funds requested for Iraq).
Funds recently requested by U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry for non-military spending in Afghanistan, 2010: $2.5 billion.
Funds spent since 2001 on Afghan "reconstruction": $38 billion ("more than half of it on training and equipping Afghan security forces").
Percentage of U.S. funding in Afghanistan that has gone for military purposes: Nearly 90%.
Estimated U.S. funds needed to support and upgrade Afghan forces for the next decade: $4 billion a year ("with a like sum for development") according to former Assistant Secretary of Defense Bing West. (According to the Brookings Institution's Michael O'Hanlon, "It's a reasonable guess that for 20 years, we essentially will have to fund half the Afghan budget.")
Afghan gross national product: $23 billion ("the size of Boise" Idaho's, writes columnist George Will) -- about $3 billion of it from opium production.
Annual budget of the Afghan government: $600 million.
Maintenance cost for the force of 450,000 Afghan soldiers and police U.S. generals dream of creating: approximately 500% of the Afghan budget.
Amount spent on police "mentoring and training" since 2001: $10 billion.
Percentage of the more than 400 Afghan National Police units "still incapable of running their operations independently": 75% (2008 figures).
Cost of the latest upgrade of Bagram Air Base (an old Soviet base that has become the largest American base in Afghanistan): $220 million.
Cost of a single recent Pentagon contract to DynCorp International Inc. and Fluor Corporation "to build and support U.S. military bases throughout Afghanistan": up to $15 billion.
War-Fighting
Number of American troops killed in Afghanistan, 2001: 12.
Number of American troops killed in Afghanistan, 2009 (through September 7th): 186
Total number of coalition (NATO and American) deaths in 2009 thus far: 311, making this the deadliest year for those forces since the war began.
Number of Lithuanian troops killed in Afghanistan: 1
Two worst months of the Afghan War in terms of coalition deaths: July (71) and August (74) 2009.
U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan, 2002: 5,200.
Expected U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan, December 2009: 68,000.
Percentage rise in Taliban attacks on coalition forces using Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) in 2009 (compared to the same period in 2008): 114%.
Rise in Coalition deaths from IED attacks in July 2009 (compared to July 2008): six-fold.
Percentage increase in overall Taliban attacks in the first five months of 2009 (compared to the same period in 2008): 59%.
Number of U.S. regional command centers in Afghanistan: 4 (at Kandahar, Herat, Mazar-i-Sharif, and Bagram).
Number of U.S. prisons and holding centers: approximately 36 "overcrowded and often violent sites" with 15,000 detainees.
Number of U.S. bases: at least 74 in northern Afghanistan alone, with more being built. (The total number of U.S. bases in Afghanistan seems not to be available.)
Estimated cost per troop of maintaining U.S. forces in Afghanistan when compared to Iraq: 30% higher.
Number of gallons of fuel per day used by the U.S. Marines in Afghanistan: 800,000.
Cost of a single gallon of gas delivered to the Afghan war zone on long, cumbersome, and dangerously embattled supply lines: Up to $100.
Number of gallons of fuel used to keep Marine tents cool in the Afghan summer and warm in winter: 448,000 gallons.
Number of troops from Georgia (not the U.S. state, but the country) being prepared by U.S. Marine trainers to be dispatched to Afghanistan to fight in spring 2010: 750.
Number of Colombian commandos to be sent to Afghanistan: Unknown, but Colombian commandos, trained by U.S. Special Forces and financed by the U.S. government, are reportedly to be dispatched there to fight alongside U.S. troops. (Note that both Georgia and Colombia are dependent on U.S. aid and support. Note also that neither the Georgians nor the Colombians would assumedly be bound by the sort of restrictive fighting rules that limit the actions of some NATO forces in Afghanistan.)
Percentage of American spy planes and unmanned aerial vehicles now devoted to Afghanistan: 66% (33% are in Iraq).
Number of American bombs dropped in Afghanistan in the first six months of 2009: 2,011 (a fall of 24% from the previous year, thanks evidently to a directive from U.S. commanding general in Afghanistan, Stanley A. McChrystal, limiting air attacks when civilians might be present).
Number of Afghan civilian deaths recorded by the U.N. January-July 2009: 1,013, a rise of 24% from the same period in 2008. (Unfortunately, Afghan deaths are generally covered sparingly, on an incident by incident basis, as in the deaths of an Afghan family traveling to a wedding party in August, assumedly due to a Taliban-planted IED, or the recent controversial U.S. bombing of two stolen oil tankers in Kunduz Province in which many civilians seem to have died. Anything like the total number of Afghans killed in these years remains unknown, but what numbers we have are undoubtedly undercounts.)
Escalation
Number of additional troops General McChrystal is expected to recommend that President Obama send to Afghanistan in the coming months: 21,000 to 45,000, according to the McClatchy Newspapers; 10,000 to 15,000 ("described as a high-risk option"), 25,000 ("a medium-risk option"), 45,000 ("a low-risk option"), according to the New York Times; fewer than 10,000, according to the Associated Press.
Number of support troops Defense Department officials are planning to replace with "trigger-pullers" (combat troops) in the coming months, effectively an escalation in place: 6,000-14,000. ("The changes will not offset the potential need for additional troops in the future, but could reduce the size of any request... officials said.")
Number of additional NATO forces General McChrystal will reportedly ask for: 20,000.
Optimal number of additional Afghan National Army (ANA) troops to be trained by 2012, according to reports on General McChrystal's draft plan: 162,000. (According to Naval Postgraduate School professor Thomas H. Johnson and retired Foreign Service officer M. Chris Mason,"[T]he U.S. military touts 91,000 ANA soldiers as 'trained and equipped,' knowing full well that barely 39,000 are still in the ranks and present for duty.")
Public Opinion
Percentage of Americans opposed to the war in Afghanistan: 57%, according to the latest CNN poll, an 11% rise since April. Only 42% now support the war.
Percentage of Republicans who support the war: 70%, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll.
Percentage of Americans who approve of President's Obama's handling of the war: 48%, according to the latest CBS poll, a drop of 8 points since April. (Support for increasing the number of troops in Afghanistan is now at just 25%, down 14% from April.)
Percentage of British who feel their forces should be withdrawn from Afghanistan: 59%.
Percentage of Germans opposed to that country's 4,000 troop commitment to Afghanistan: More than 70%.
The Presidential Election
Estimated cost of staging the 2009 Afghan presidential election: $500 million.
Number of complaints of voting irregularities: More than 2,500 and still climbing, 691 of them described as "serious charges."
Number of members of the "Independent Election Commission" not appointed by Afghan President (and presidential candidate) Hamid Karzai: 0.
Cost of blank voting-registration cards in Ghazni Province in May 2009: $200 for 200 blank registration cards.
Cost of such a card purchased by "an undercover Afghan journalist working for the BBC" this fall: $8.
Number of voter registration cards (not including fakes) reportedly distributed countrywide: 17 million or almost twice the estimated number of eligible voters.
Number of ballots cast at the Hajji Janat Gul High School polling place, half an hour from the center of Kabul: 600.
Number of votes recorded for Karzai at that polling station: 996. (Number of votes for other candidates: 5.)
Number of ballots marked for Karzai and shipped to Kabul from 45 polling sites in Shorabak District in Southern Afghanistan that were shut down by local officials connected to Karzai before voting could begin: 23,900.
Number of fake polling sites set up by backers of Karzai where no one voted but hundreds of thousands of votes were recorded: as many as 800, according to the New York Times. (Another 800 actual polling sites were taken over by Karzai supporters "to fraudulently report tens of thousands of additional ballots for Mr. Karzai.")
Number of ballots in Karzai's home province, Kandahar, where an estimated 25,000 Afghans actually voted, submitted to be counted: approximately 350,000.
Private Contractors
Number of military contractors hired by the Pentagon in Afghanistan by the end of June 2009: Almost 74,000, nearly two-thirds of them local hires, a 9% rise over the previous three months.
Percentage of the Pentagon's force in Afghanistan made up of contractors in March 2009: 57%.
Ranking for the percentage of contractors used by the Pentagon in Afghanistan: highest in any conflict in U.S. history.
Diplomats and the Civilian Surge
Cost of new "crash" program to expand the U.S. "diplomatic presence" in Afghanistan and Pakistan: $1 billion. ($736 million of which is slated for the construction of a massive new embassy/regional headquarters in Islamabad, Pakistan.)
Number of additional U.S. government personnel reportedly slated to be sent to Pakistan to augment the 750 civilians already there: almost 1,000.
Expected number of U.S. government civilians to be posted at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan by the end of 2009: 976. (There were 562 at the end of 2008 and there are now reportedly more than 1,000 diplomats, staff, and Afghan nationals already working there.)
Estimated total number of civilians to be assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Kabul as part of a proposed ongoing "civilian surge" by 2011: 1,350 (800 to be posted in Kabul, 550 outside the capital).
Cost of the State Department's five-year contract with Xe Services (formerly Blackwater) to provide security for U.S. diplomats in Afghanistan: $210 million.
Cost of the State Department's contract with ArmorGroup North America, a subsidiary of U.S.-based Wackenhutt Services Inc., to guard the U.S. Embassy in Kabul: $189 million.
Number of private guards provided by ArmorGroup North America: 450, based at Camp Sullivan, several miles from the embassy compound where they reportedly engaged in Lord of the Flies-style behavior.
The Metrics of Success
Defense Secretary Robert Gates on success in Afghanistan: It will take "a few years" to defeat the Taliban and al-Qaeda.
Admiral "Mike" Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Meet the Press: "I believe we've got to start to turn this thing around from a security standpoint in the next 12 to 18 months." (He would not directly answer the "how long" question.)
Senate Foreign Relations Committee report on the Afghan War: "None of the civilian officials or military officers interviewed in Afghanistan and elsewhere expected substantial progress in the short term. They talked in terms of years two, five and 10... Military officials believe the Afghanistan mission can only succeed if troops are there far longer -- anywhere from five years to 12 years."
Military experts cited by Walter Pincus of the Washington Post warn: "[T]he United States is taking on security and political commitments that will last at least a decade and a cost that will probably eclipse that of the Iraq war."
Anthony H. Cordesman, a member of a "team" put together by U.S. commanding general in Afghanistan Stanley A. McChrystal to assess war strategy, and a national security expert for the Center for Strategic and International Studies: "told reporters recently that even with military gains in the next 12 to 18 months, it would take years to reduce sharply the threat from the Taliban and other insurgent forces."
Robert Dreyfuss of the Nation summarizing the opinions of a panel of experts on the Afghan War, including Bruce Riedel, a 30-year CIA veteran and adviser to four presidents, who chaired President Obama's Afghan task force, two McChrystal task force members, Kim Kagan and Cordesman, and the Brooking Institution's Michael O'Hanlon: "(1) A significant escalation of the war will be necessary to avoid utter defeat. (2) Even if tens of thousands of troops are added to the US occupation, it won't be possible to determine if the US/NATO effort is succeeding until eighteen months later. (3) Even if the United States turns the tide in Afghanistan, no significant drawdown of US forces will take place until five years have passed." (Riedel commented: "Anyone who thinks that in 12 to 18 months we're going to be anywhere close to victory is living in a fantasy.")
New chief of staff of the British Army, General Sir David Richards: "The Army's role will evolve, but the whole process might take as long as 30 to 40 years." (After much criticism, he retracted the statement.)
New NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen: NATO's mission in Afghanistan will last "as long as it takes" to ensure that the country is secure.
Afghanistan by the Numbers
Cost of a Kalashnikov rifle in Afghanistan today: $400-600.
Cost of a Kalakov (the Afghan name for a new model of Kalashnikov): $1,100. (For a $150 surcharge, you can have it delivered to southern Afghanistan.)
Cost of a kilo of heroin in Afghanistan: $2,500. (Cost of that same kilo in Moscow: an estimated $100,000.)
Cost in police bribes of getting contraband into or out of Afghanistan: "$20 on each weapon, $100 for a kilo of heroin and $1,000 for each thousand kilos of hashish."
Afghanistan's ranking among the globe's "weakest states," according to the Brookings Institution: second weakest. (It is also regularly referred to as the world's fourth poorest country.)
Unemployment rate in Afghanistan, according to the CIA World Factbook: 40% (2008 figures).
Monthly wage for Afghan National Police: $110 (less than $4 per day).
Daily wage Taliban reputedly pays its fighters: $4-8. (Often the only "job" available.)
How long it may take to get a case through a government court (with bribes): 4-5 years.
How long it may take to get a case through a Taliban court (without bribes): 1 day.
Number of registered Afghan refugees still in Iran and Pakistan: 3 million.
Number of al-Qaeda base camps estimated to be in Afghanistan today: 0. (All reputable experts seem agreed on this.)
The Next War
The price tag the Obama administration's budget team reportedly put on U.S. future wars almost every year through 2019: More than $100 billion a year.
The cost of equipping seven Army brigades with a Boeing advanced coordinated system of hand-held drones, robots, sensors, and other battlefield surveillance equipment over the next two years: $2 billion.
Date when all 73 Army active and reserve brigades will be equipped with the system: 2025.
What Can't Be Measured
Here's a conundrum to be considered and filed away under the rubric "impossible to measure" as you leave the world of Afghan War metrics: The U.S. continues to struggle to train Afghan police and soldiers who will actually turn out and fight with discipline (see above). In the meantime, as a recent Washington Post piece by Karen DeYoung indicated, the Taliban regularly turn out fighters who are reportedly using ever more sophisticated and tenacious fire-and-maneuver techniques against the overwhelming firepower of U.S. and NATO forces. ("To many of the Americans, it appeared as if the insurgents had attended something akin to the U.S. Army's Ranger school, which teaches soldiers how to fight in small groups in austere environments.")
Both groups are, of course, Afghans. It might be worth considering why "their" Afghans are the fierce fighters of history books and legend and ours, despite billions of dollars and massive training efforts, are not. This puzzling situation had its parallel in Vietnam decades ago when American military advisors regularly claimed they would give up a division of U.S.-trained South Vietnamese forces for a single battalion of "VC."
Here's something to carry away with you: Life is invariably hard when you set up your massive embassies, your regional command centers, your election advisors, your private security guards, your military trainers and advisors, your diplomats and civilian enablers and then try to come up with a formula for motivating the locals to do your bidding.
[Note: Thanks for help in researching this piece goes, first and foremost, to Nick Turse -- with a small bow to Frida Berrigan as well. Crucial websites, if you want to keep up-to-date on Afghanistan, include Juan Cole's Informed Comment, which has recently focused an ever more laser-like beam of analysis on events in that country, the invaluable Antiwar.com (especially Jason Ditz's daily summaries), the War in Context (not to be missed more generally on "the Greater Middle East"); Rethink Afghanistan, and Foreign Policy's the Af/Pak Channel. If you want to download a "cost of war" counter to your computer, check out the National Priorities Project website.]
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45 Comments so far
Show AllThe outrageous costs....lives and treasure.....to support the MIC through the travesty of the FALSE FLAG of 9/11. Friday will be the infamous eighth anniversary of the inside job of 9/11. Please support NYC CAN for a new investigation. We cannot let this disappear into the oblivion of "looking forward". Obama, SHAME ON YOU for refusing to look underneath the official story. YOU are an IMMEASURABLE disappoinment to any seeker of truth and to We the People who elected you.
The only change I will now believe in will be your resignation or loss in 2012.
What a shill! What a weakling!
"Looking forward". Someone please tell me how in the hell can you look forward when 3,000 people died on 911; Unless you are a criminal who does not want to look at the facts or you are afraid to "look back". There can be no other answer! The National Geographic just did a hatchet job on 911, that supposedly looked back, but in fact was really a joke that looked forward and was an abomination to the relatives that lost their loved ones on 911!
As much as we are disappointed in his conduct of this travesty since Obama assumed office, the war in Afghanistan will always be Bush and Cheney's fuckup.
q
Until Obama signed the pink slip and took off joyriding, that is.
· Yr Obd't Servant
To try to shift the blame for this war to Obama is to absolve Bush and Cheney of their responsibility, a moral position which is both absurd and dishonest.
q
I believe that absolving Obama, who has enthusiastically popped and swung a War Boner over what he absurdly believes to be a necessary and implicitly "good" war is absurd and dishonest.
Obama's gone out of his way to "own" the Afghanistan debacle, and just because it hasn't gotten him his hoped-for cred with Goopers and wingnuts is no reason to let him off the hook. It's not just that he decided Flag Pins were cool after all-- he even adopted his predecessor's Secretary of Defense!
I don't see it as an either/or proposition. Responsibility and accountability are not zero-sum quantities.
· Yr Obd't Servant
"I don't see it as an either/or proposition. Responsibility and accountability are not zero-sum quantities."
But your first response takes just such a position.
q
I believe you are both right. There is plenty of blame to go around. This is and was the responsibility of Bush/Cheney, but it has become, by choice the responsibility of Barack Obama too.
If you don't get them out....your hands are just as bloody. Johnson-Nixon for example.
Henry is right if your not ending a war than your propagating it thus it is your responsibility.
There's a robbery going on, call the police! oh, here they are, but wait, WTF? they're driving the getaway car! Foiled again.
No this now and always will be our war--we are the ones who have financed it--us and our descendants.
I have measured this illegal, immoral and expensively obscene action--it's not really a war--and have determined that all who have aided and abetted it thus:"ME/NE,ME/NE,TE'KEL,U-PHAR"-SIN. This is the interpretation of the thing:God hath numbered thy kingdom and finished it." Daniel6:25
Therefor I seriously suggest to all foes of tyranny--You should participate in pro-active events to take the power away from those unfit to hold it--it's been way too long since justice has been served in these United States--we must meet on the shores of the Potomac and take back out nation--all who see tyranny must act now and muster in DC beginning October 4th and ending when we have succeeded--those who cannot make it must support the cause by striking until the job is finished. Let the whole world see Americans at their best--"Because now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the true spirit of the United States of America. I'll see you there the Right and the left--We won't be fooled again!
So, by your "logic," my five-month old great-granddaughter bears as much responsibility for our invasion of Afghanistan as Bush and Cheney do.
The clueless attempts by Rovian trolls to reassign the blame for the sins of the Bush/Cheney admimistration are both laughable and immoral.
q
Thank You! This is a Bush/Cheney production all the way.
The wars in Korea, Vietnam, all of the others that have been started since then, were and ARE NOT intended to be won.
They use the 'cover' to 'bring democracy to others', but that is only a 'cover'.
The 'wars' that are 'won', "Gulf Storm" a very good example, were staged and carried out for the 'dog and pony show' known collectively as the USA and for the 'viewers back home', and were usually an 'accidental win'.
Regardless of how illegal and unconstitutional the three current wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan are, still so many Americans are willing to 'support the war and the troops' and disregard at the same time the absolute illegality of them.
Now the world has recognized that the USA, always promoting itself as "THE Grand Democracy", has put its national debt into the trillions, and wasted most of it trying to eliminate an enemy they themselves created just barely twenty years ago; while meddling in the affairs of other nations.
Add to that the very real fact that the USA has borrowed the money it now operates off of from the Chinese not a 'bastion of democracy' but certainly the example of a successful--'Social Capitalism'. At the same time the USA are still exporting jobs, the USA doesn't make much anymore but 'war'.
The fact that so many Americans are aware that the vast sums their nation is gaining in debt to Communist China is rarely if ever mentioned. The reality is simple ;after all, they had money to loan that they earned on the open world market, why would America not borrow from them. They certainly have been foolish in other important areas, why not financing their illegal wars--that they do not intend to win.
The reason for this is simply the Plutocratic Oligarchy makes far more money from the wars that will not be won than from the ones that are won (mostly by accident), and if there are no wars; no money for the 'PO'...........
So, Americans are not slaves to a theocracy as those in Islam are; they are not slaves to a "Philosophy" as the Communists are; Americans are slaves to the Plutocratic Oligarchy---other Americans----and they are loathe to make the necessary changes.
And they are loosing more as each day passes; the world cannot possibly tolerate the USA much longer, they cannot tolerate the wars that do not end, and the death and destruction that the Americans bring with their arrogant and war like behavior to 'bring democracy to others'.
"If the USA were another nation, the USA would invade the USA to keep the world safe; and they would be justified."
Good Luck America.
Great article.
It's Obama's war now.
8 years in Afghanistan and all we have to show for it is more instability.
In Iraq as well as in Afghanistan, once we invaded, there became no chance of leaving with a stable country. We can leave now or next year or in 5 years. We will leave chaos behind.
Obama campaigned on bringing the war to a close.
He's done nothing of the sort, and kept the Bush people gates and Mullen in place.
Because they were doing such a great job???
Can anyone in the administration even state the goals of the war?
What would constitute a victory here?
To hell with the administration.
Can ANYONE even state the goals of the war?
What would constitute a victory here?
A victory in Afghanistan would consist of controlling the Hindu Kush and South Waziristan, seizing the nuclear weapons in Pakistan, and using a False-Flag to initiate that action that would "legitimately," trigger Israel's attack on Iran and consequent Holocaust in the ME which will redraw some of the lines on the Map in the Summer of 2010.
An SS-N-22 sinking an American carrier with a mini-nuclear warhead would serve many roles-US hate for Iran would push an invasion, Israel, who would actually fire the false missile could proceed with it's attack with huge US support, and not just against Iran, but against the Palestinians as always whenever war rages.
A fractured Pakistan is not out of the question. Victory!
-"History may not simply repeat itself, but there's good reason to look askance at whatever set of metrics the Obama administration manages to devise."
Errr, maybe some of that askance looking should have taken place before you voted for people that are implementing war plans which that "boogeyman to scare young progressives", John McCain, said recently he is 100 percent happy with.
Great post NativeSon.
I don't know why I expected anything different from Obama.
I keep waiting and waiting form someone to bring Senator Carl Levin's name up. How in the heck did this Senator go from being on the "End the War" committee during the Bush years to the "Chairman of the Arms Committee" under the Obama presidency?
This Senator (75 years old) is one of the most eerie and secrative weirdo's on the planet. He see's no one, and speaks to no one. He and his brother Congressman Sander Levin (77years old) have this grip on Michigan than no one at this point seems to understand. Last month they took a plane full of their friends over to Isreal. Said that they went there looking for jobs! When asked, "who paid for this trip" the answer was, "A group of Israleie business people."
I heard in a radio interview author, Suzzane Simon’s (Master of War) speaks out on war and privatization but when asked who voted in or proposed many of today’s War policy’s, Simon’s response was, “We don’t know. We have to go the source’s.” When naming the sources, she mention’s Sen Carl Levin and Sen John Kerry.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for Levin for being the number one salesman who is keeping the American economy going by selling weapons around the world, or should we be putting pressure on him? Why is Levin's name never brought up, ever?
As Native Son is implying, the current hot war in Afghanistan is just an acute form of a much larger systemic problem, the US culture of war. The Pentagon and the financial industry are in bed together and it is they who control the nation. Billions upon billions go into the ever expanding war machine and hardly ANYONE does anything about it. Congress rubber stamps whatever the Puppet Emperor asks for, no questions asked.
The MSM seldom ever mentions the war, let alone the out of control war spending. No, we get idiot fanatics hijacking the health care debate.
"OMG! Big Government can't provide health care! That's socialism and we're Americans, damn it."
But that's the media talking, polls show that most Americans would favor a single payer health program, most Americans want better infrastructure and greater funding for education. Bills that should provide for a decent society get cut, nitpicked, and shelved, while the war fanatics get all they want, and more.
This is all such a horrendous waste. Let's all go where empires go to die! Who cares about the poor and languishing in the states. We have a party to attend. Party on Wayne! All that heroin has to be a major factor in all this chaos. Another shame is that I will never get to hike in the Hindu Kush mountains. They look amazing on the topo maps. Too bad one couldn't go there for a hike without getting shot up.
Love your moniker.
. . . the Obama administration is reportedly rushing to "preempt Congress with its own metrics." It's producing a document called a Strategic Implementation Plan, which . . . "will include separate 'indicators' of progress under nine broad 'objectives' to be measured quarterly...
This sounds like part of George Carlin routine.
Obama does not share equal blame with Cheney and Bush for the war, but his grace period is over.
A war once started takes on a life of its own, I admit; the majority of the war lies on the conscience (if they had one) of the instigators. However, an idiot could see that the US presence in both of these countries is making things worse with each passing month.
Honestly I believe Ron Paul would have started the withdrawal as soon as his hand left the bible on Inaugural Day.
If Obama is waiting for some kind of stability (naive interpretation of the motive for war, I know) he will be there as long as McCain, Palin, Bush would have been there.
owwww! that hurts
as far as the election rigging goes: in order to be more green shouldn't we supply the afghanis with some diebold voting machines. as we have seen they work well and they require no paper....
An interesting article. I was struck by one tag line by Tom Engelhardt in particular.
"Ask yourself: Wouldn't the U.S. have been safer and more secure if all the money, effort, and planning had gone towards "nation-building" in America?"
We certainly need to do some "Nation Building" here. Rebuilding that is.
Our troops need to come home. Afganistan and Iraq need to proceed to their futures, whatever they are. They need to decide them, not us.
Henry, you are exactly right. "Our troops need to come home." They need to come home from Afghanistan. They need to come home from Iraq. But they also need to come home from Germany and Japan and South Korea and the 100+ other foreign countries were they are stationed. We cannot afford this empire - either morally or financially.
We are constantly presented with a left-right dicotamy of political views in this country. On the really important issues - such as war and peace and the maintenance of our empire - there is only the "War Party". All others, whither they be Cynthia McKenny or Ron Paul (both of whom raised the moral question), are shunted off to the side of the debate.
The questions of "cap and trade" and "health care reform" are important. But they pale before the question of empire. And that question is rarely raised.
With Angela Hawk's admission that she is afraid that terrorists from Afghanistan will attack Germany, therefore she's keeping German troops there, we come ever closer to an understanding, that, whatever the question in world affairs, the answer is fear.
When I was a world traveler in Afghanistan in the early 1960's, I saw three men pushing a plow through a field just outside of Kabul. Yes, this sight was terrifying. No tractor, no large animals, just the three plowing men.
They looked a bit frail and undernourished, but the plough was sliding through the earth. Clearly one of them could have taken out Russia, another Germany, the third the United States.
Whenever Angela Hawk, Barack O' Hawk, Hillary Hawk, or Richard Holbrooke-Hawk (careful not to give the details) discuss Afghanistan, they make it clear that Afghanistan carries a big whollop.
It must be so! Otherwise, how could these sensitive members of the Hawk family feel and convey such fear? No, they won't ever communicate exactly what they know, choosing instead that we the people of the world shall infer it. But there are scarey people there in Afghanistan, or in Pakistan, and they're gonna come and whup up on us. Well, not the Afghans, exactly, nor the Taliban either, but Al Qaeda, who these other people before 9/11 let operate from a safe haven.
Is it all clear now? Candidate McCain was afraid of a safe haven in Iraq, and I'm afraid of one in Antarctica or any place where the penguins are disorganized. We should attack the penguins and attack more in Iraq and attack more in Afpak and attack the International Space Station, which simply is not well-organized enough and could become a safe haven for the terrorists to launch their continuous attacks on New Zealand and Tasmania by tomorrow.
Pertinent and funny. How I envy what you did in the early 60s. That must have been such a fantastic experience... gone forever is that Afghanistan. Eric Margolis has very good articles on Afghanistan on his website, but you likely don't need much info about how really stupid and counterproductive is the OCCUPATION of Afghanistan.
she's rehashing the "we are fighting them over THERE so we don't have to fight them over HERE".
the circular rationale that CAUSES terrorists to attack western-symbol-connected structures in society because they are COLONIALISTS thinking the world has to continue to SWALLOW the western "ideals" and "social structure" and "order"..,...which REALLY is
EXPLOIT the world for western advantage - period.
it's basic:
it's about the WEST never being satisfied. never satisfied with what it HAS - but instead wishes to control other continents and lands and people to have MORE than it NEEDS or DESERVES - at the expense of other cultures. it is not even about "exchange" of cultures or resources.
it is PURE THEFT of resources and lands from OTHER cultures and people and regions.
it's been like that since the west , out of the ruins of the Roman Empire - "remembered" that there are vast , untold, riches and cultures elsewhere to be "controlled" for ITS benefit and glory.
and went "south" to africa, and to the middle east,
and of course
since HEARING of the great, rich, prosperous , ancient culture of the EAST - such as in russia and china and the central asian regions - from reports such as by the italian MARCO POLO -
the west ALWAYS LUSTED after those regions.
cosnidering that EUROPE has LITTLE of real natural resources of its own - and is a mere johnny come lately in the eons of civilization. aided and abetted by CORRUPTING the scientific advances such as "explosives" for "warfare superiority" for ONE and ONE reason only ...........
THEFT and PILLAGE of other regions and lands.
this is clear enough.
and the west is getting DESPERATE that its hold on that GLOBAL power is finally being challenged BY the EAST and other regions who are saying:
"NO MORE"
this is about the PIPELINES of ENERGY from the EAST to the WEST.
that's how desperate Europe is and the west is..in trying to CONTROL access to and prices OF EASTERN resources and energy ...
just like the old colonial times upon which they built their empires, right up to hitler, and today.
CHEAPEN the resources and lives of other regions for the benefit of the ":stability" of WESTERN society as CONTROLLER of the world.
that's not going to last.
they will NEVER succeed for much longer.
and germans should not be surprised if their beautiful cathedrals, old great architecture and towns and cities experience bombings that never stop...because that is the consequence of their own leadership involving itself in NATO CONTROL of a region FAR from where it was supposed to be...
and which to the central asians only ONE MATTER is important:
"westerners are not really" there to :help: they are there to because they want to EXPLOIT.
how soon before ordinary germans FEEL that when they see their own neighborhoods under fear of "terrorists"? because some of those from central asia or those that sympathize with them - BUT have been living IN germany FIND A WAY , sooner or later to cause chaos - ESPECIALLY in a country that literaly defines itself in terms of "order" and "Stability" and neatness?
they are going to continue JOINING the USA empire pouring their resources trying to subjugate the people in central asia or elsewhere? they are dreaming.
"The Bilderberg Group" by Danel Estulin seems to me to add understanding to the why of
this conflict as well as show probable outcomes as well.
hi,
thank you for the contributed information for our common understanding.
in a way - these now becoming-more-overt actions by western government-institution-led "world order" is really becoming more and more exposed - or at least exposing itself through the increased militarization, fascism, etc...
because the DECLINE of western power, colonialism and imperialism INFLUENCE - stripped more and more of its FACADES - such as "globalization", "free market", "privatization", "efficiency" , "capitalism EQUALS democracy and freedom"...ALL OF THEM facades =
is pushing these western powers that had been controlling world structures for so long into VERY DESPERATE ACTS to
shore up the system which benefits them at the expense of others.
that's the real reason they are now no longer even bothering to pretend it is nothing but PURE neo-colonialism, economically, militarily and politically and culturally.
They will FAIL.
a very old Indian saying was said to a British upper class man looking down upon the "backward east" decades ago :
"WE were here long before you were even TRIBES in the west...we shall still be here LONG AFTER your empires are no more".
the west thinks in years and decades? or a hundred or a few hundred years? as "permanent?"
the east thinks in THOUSANDS of years.
Below are two of the opening paragraphs from articles in Asiatimesonline by writers who have real in-depth knowledge of events and realities there...
i am posting them as they are related and confirm what I always suspected a very long time:
that the western powers SPECIFICALLY have ALWAYS lusted after Russia, as the CENTRAL "resources" and "control" point for global dominance (even since 3 centuries ago, if one really looked at the history of continental europe and england continually provoking russia or trying to destroy her for her resources and independence) -
and of course ensuring that the other long-lived - even the most successful continuous civilization that successfully REPELLED western colonialism - CHINA
are brought to their knees.
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of course that isn't going to happen anytime soon. as the west ought to have learned by now.
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Afghan war reaches a tipping point
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization's air strikes in the northern province of Kunduz on Friday, which killed or injured more than 100 people, have left Afghan blood equally on the hands of all NATO countries. The incident shows this is no mere fight against terrorism; it is about NATO's role as a global political organization and the "unfinished business" of the Cold War - as well as about defining the new world order. - M K Bhadrakumar (Sep 8, '09)
THE ROVING EYE
Enduring Freedom until 2050
In only 450 days, the number of troops in Afghanistan has swelled from 67,000 to 118,000. Since 2001, the United States has spent $179 billion in the country, while its European allies have burned $102 billion. The tragicomedy is clear: the US and its allies will do - and spend - whatever it takes to implant military bases on the doorstep of Russia and China, and to get their gas pipeline on track. - Pepe Escobar (Sep 8, '09)
teddy: keep 'em coming - the article about nato is especially important given the low level of awareness most americans have about their own military they often have less understanding of entities like nato - nwo - debt based banking wars and such
the corporate media of the us would rather not inform the sheeple of the truths of empire or its staggering costs in dollars and human life - and basically the sheeple don't want to know either
in fascist america it is ok to rape rob and plunder foreign lands for corporate profit just don't show any pictures of coffins coming home or gi's being killed because - are you ready for this - its insensitive
world domination, oil, gas, pipelines, heroin and unsupportable debt - these are all topics that need not concern the citizens
all they need to know is about all the freedom and democracy we are bringing to the world
How do we get the dumb stupid kids to stop enlisting?
Provide them with better jobs. The problem does not start at the bottom! It starts at the top.
The problem starts simultaneously everywhere with everyone who condones war.
Educate them, too.
Remember that almost all of what has been handed them as education has been propaganda to enlist:
- Whitewashing of economic imperialism as "aid" or "investment"
- Whitewashing of American military involvements, starting with the conquest of the continent
- Deification of American founders despite their oppression of anyone except landed male Anglophones.
- Training in submission and restraint:
---- Sit up straight
---- No talking
---- Study the lesson at hand
---- Grades show you're "smart" and "good"
---- Education will get you a job (not questions or answers)
---- A job is what you want
---- Sex-ed: the study of venereal disease
It goes on, remember?
That's long ago and far away for a lot of us. But the old idiocies still hold centerstage in most education. Parents snipe at administrators to keep it that way, and "reform" has come to mean loss of funds.
Meanwhile, talk with the kids. Take off work and talk with them.
The endless repetition of "training the (Afghani, Iraqi, Pakistani) police and army" is one of the biggest lies of all. There's not even an attempt to make it believable. You can't "train" people to fight against themselves. Why do people keep falling for this BS?
However, there is a telling line in Englehardt's piece about the Pentagon's hiring "mostly local" contractors. These may be the nascent fascists, "trained" for four or six years, starting very young, that the U.S. hopes to unleash to take over Afghanistan some years down the line. They've done something similar in Iraq. Don't know how the "Iraqi green berets" are doing though.
This is done with payola.
A % of most populations will sell their grandmothers for money. The % rises in desperation. This dynamic fueled the torture and disappearance regimes of Latin America through the last decades.
I suppose one can call it training, but it's mostly bribery and the desensitization that comes from a sense of personal helplessness.
My guess is that the local contractors are mostly Northern Alliance members hired to repress Pastuns.
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