British Foreign Secretary: Clinton Threatened to Cut-Off Intelligence-Sharing if Torture Evidence is Disclosed
I've written several times before about the amazing quest of Binyam Mohamed -- a British resident released from Guantanamo in February, 2009 after seven years in captivity -- to compel public disclosure of information in the possession of the British Government proving he was tortured while in U.S. custody. At the center of Mohamed's efforts lie the claims of high British government officials that the Obama administration has repeatedly threatened to cut off intelligence-sharing programs with the U.K. if the British High Court discloses information which British intelligence officials learned from the CIA about how Mohamed was tortured. New statements from the British Foreign Secretary yesterday -- claiming that Hillary Clinton personally re-iterated those threats in a May meeting -- highlight how extreme is this joint American/British effort to cover-up proof of Mohamed's torture.
In August 2008, the British High Court ruled in Mohamed's favor, concluding in a 75-page ruling (.pdf) that there was credible evidence in Britain's possession that Mohamed was brutally tortured and was therefore entitled to disclosure of that evidence under long-standing principles of British common law, international law (as established by the Nuremberg Trials and the war crimes trials of Yugoslav leaders, among others), and Britain's treaty obligations (under the Convention Against Torture). But as part of that ruling, the Court redacted from its public decision seven paragraphs which detailed the facts of Mohamed's torture -- facts which British intelligence agents learned from the CIA -- based on the British Government's representations that both the Bush and Obama administrations had threatened to cut off intelligence-sharing with Britain if those facts were disclosed, even as part of a court proceeding.
The British government's claims about these threats led the British High Court to conclude that it could not disclose those facts in good conscience because the U.S. was, in essence, threatening to put the lives of British citizens at risk by terminating intelligence-sharing over terrorist threats. When re-affirming its decision (.pdf) to withhold that information in light of American threats, the Court pointedly wrote:
We did not consider that a democracy governed by the rule of law would expect a court in another democracy to suppress a summary of the evidence contained in reports by its own officials or officials of another State where the evidence was relevant to allegations of torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment, politically embarrassing though it might be.
Ever since this controversy became public, there have been disputes over exactly what threats the Bush and Obama administrations were really issuing. Were the threats real; were they contrived and issued at the request of the British government in order to give them a pretextual weapon to bully the British High Court to keep the torture facts concealed; or was it some combination of both? What has been clear from the start is that the British Government, at its highest levels, insists that it was threatened this way by both the Bush and Obama administrations.
In May, The Washington Times' Eli Lake reported that an extraordinary letter sent to the British by the Obama administration proved that "the Obama administration [said] it may curtail Anglo-American intelligence sharing if the British High Court discloses new details of the treatment of a former Guantanamo detainee." That same day, I obtained the court documents filed by the British Government (.pdf) which purported to include that letter sent by the Obama administration, and I wrote about that letter here.
The letter explicitly threatened that the U.S. would cut off intelligence-sharing with the British in the event of disclosure of these torture facts by the British court. The letter expressly warned that such action "could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the United Kingdom's national security" and "it is almost certain that the United Kingdom's ability to identify and arrest suspected terrorists and to disrupt terrorist plots would be severely hampered." In other words: if you let your courts describe how we tortured Mohamed -- even if your laws, your treaty obligations and decades-old international law compel such disclosure -- we may purposely leave your citizens vulnerable to future terrorist attacks by withholding information we obtain about terrorist plots aimed at your country.
New facts emerged yesterday about the threats issued by the Obama administration. Back in February, the British Foreign Minster, David Miliband, denied that he was explicitly threatened by the Bush administration. But now, The Guardian reports that -- at least according to Miliband -- threats were issued by the Obama administration not only in the form of that previously disclosed letter, but also personally by Hillary Clinton in a May meeting with him and other British officials:
Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, personally intervened to suppress evidence of CIA collusion in the torture of a British resident, the high court heard today. . . . David Miliband, the foreign secretary, has repeatedly told the court that the US would stop sharing intelligence with the UK if the CIA material was published. . . Today, it heard how Miliband met Clinton in Washington on 12 May this year.
In a written statement proposing a gagging order, Miliband told the court that she "indicated" that the disclosure of CIA evidence "would affect intelligence sharing". Pressed repeatedly by the judges on the claim yesterday, Karen Steyn, Miliband's counsel, insisted that Clinton was indeed saying that if the seven-paragraph summary of CIA material was disclosed, the US would "reassess" its intelligence relationship with the UK, a move that "would put lives at risk".
Whatever the truth here is about these threats, it is undeniably clear that the U.S. and British Governments are working in collusion to keep concealed the evidence of Mohamed's torture. In February, the Obama administration issued a public statement praising the British Government for convincing its High Court to keep these facts concealed and said that this concealment would "preserve the long-standing intelligence sharing relationship that enables both countries to protect their citizens" -- certainly an implied threat that the opposite would happen in the event of disclosure. And in the U.S., the Obama administration has engaged in its own extraordinary efforts to deny Mohamed a day in court, invoking the "state secrets" privilege to argue that the torture program which victimized him must be kept secret, and then after the Obama DOJ lost in the Ninth Circuit, trying to get that decision reversed by the full Circuit court.
What could possibly justify this full-scale joint effort by the Obama administration and the British government to cover-up evidence of Mohamed's torture? In April, when I interviewed one of Mohamed's lawyers, Clive Stafford Smith, he pointed out:
Covering up evidence of torture is a criminal offense for which you can go to prison here in Britain, and I imagine in the US but I'm not quite sure about that. And the idea that the British government would conspire with the US or be threatened by the US to do this is again an independent violation of the law.
It's one thing to try to impede prosecutions of those responsible for torture by invoking the inspiring mantra that we Must Look to the Future, Not the Past. It's another thing entirely to actively cover-up evidence of that torture and block the victims from their day in court. There is now a very active controversy over exactly what role the Obama administration and British government is each playing in the issuance of these extraordinary threats. But there is no doubt that both governments are actively attempting to keep this evidence concealed.
In February, Andrew Sullivan wrote about the Mohamed case: "with each decision to cover for their predecessors, the Obamaites become retroactively complicit in them." In May, Sullivan wrote:
Slowly but surely, Obama is owning the cover-up of his predecessors' war crimes. But covering up war crimes, refusing to prosecute them, promoting those associated with them, and suppressing evidence of them are themselves violations of Geneva and the UN Convention. So Cheney begins to successfully coopt his successor.
Also in May, The Washington Post's Dan Froomkin -- in a column entitled "President Obama Joins the Cover-Up" -- wrote: "The president who came into office promising to restore our international reputation and return responsibility to government now seems to be buying into the belief that covering up our sins is better than coming clean."
This has gone well beyond a passive failure to apply the rule of law (and comply with our treaty obligations) by prosecuting. Instead, these are now active efforts to cover-up war crimes. The British Foreign Secretary insists that Obama's Secretary of State personally threatened that the U.S. would conceal information about terrorist plots from the British if the facts of Mohamed's torture were disclosed, while the Obama administration actively seeks to block American courts from examining the same evidence. Can anyone justify that?
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Show AllCall me naive, but it seems to me that if the Brits don't take the bull by the horns on this matter then they, too, become accomplices. The Fear Factor is the standard playing card, and the Brits bought into it big time re: the Iraq invasion. Now they have a chance to redeem their integrity. If they go ahead and release the torture details they will rise at least a notch or two, even as the US will drop by the same. It is possible that they may even be given kudos from those who will be outraged enough to resort to terrorism. In that event, yes- it becomes highly probable that the resulting terrorism will be exacted on US soil. So be it. And if, indeed, the US repeats its threat then the matter of the US government trying to conceal war crimes should be brought before the World court. To be sure, the Brit government has elements sympathetic to the US view. If those elements control the game then GB will have once again shown its spineless obedience to a very sick master. As for the media: what's the word from the BBC on this matter? The US media is owned by those who would rather feed the masses pablum. Is the BBC now on that ship, as well?
With this much smoke in the air, the fire must be huge. It's not just that this one guy got tortured by the usa, thousands did. If anyone thinks the story is going away because the us gov't denies everything they're quite wrong. The longer bush et all get away with their crimes, the worse it looks for the future of the yankee state.
If you kidnap, torture, murder and wage wars of agression at the drop of a hat...
Al Capone, Lucky Luciano, John Gotti, The Boanno Family, Madoff, Bush, Cheney, Obama, Clinton....the great American gangsters!! welcome to Fascist Amerika, the imperial terrorist state of the twenty first century! It has become the antithesis of it's constitutional framers and is now the home of cowards and the land of the slaves! Insanity is as insanity does!
Thank you, Obama voters, for the "Change You Can Believe In" and "Audacity of Hope" and "Yes We Can" etc.
You're golden.
Didn't vote for Mister Obama but given the viable choices often presented in US elections, people often vote for the lesser of two evils - sometimes only a slightly lesser evil. What is your 'realistic' alternative?
Oh, let's see . . . . Ralph Nader comes to mind. Dennis Kucinich. Ron Paul, perhaps. Rationalizing immoral conduct based on "lesser evils" is how humans keep committing the worst depravity in human history.
Garbage in, garbage out. Until voters learn to vote for good candidates, we're doomed to live in a sewer.
By the way, if the Democrats ever had the balls to nominate someone like Ralph Nader, especially in a year during crisis such as we suffer today (economic recession / wars), I think Nader would win easily. Unlike Obama and Clinton, with their disingenous, "centrist" mealymouth equivocations, Nader would do a good job of explaining facts and issues. The media hate Nader, because they are complicit in helping the establishment political hacks get elected and re-elected, from time immemorial. Someone like Nader threatens to expose the media and existing political establishment for what they are: poorly performing whores.
"The British Foreign Secretary insists that Obama's Secretary of State personally threatened that the U.S. would conceal information about terrorist plots from the British if the facts of Mohamed's torture were disclose..."
The refusal to disclose information about terrorist activities to people at risk of being the victims of said terrorist activities amounts to no less than collusion with terrorism. As such, Hillary Clinton and her president, Obama, are using terrorism to impose their will on the British.
Fighting terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama? Yeah, yeah..
If Britain really cared about its citizens and human rights, it wouldn't cave in to Clinton's blackmail. The solution is simple, if Clinton decided to cut off sharing intelligence, Britain should pull its troops from Afghanistan and stop US military flights from going through Britain.
Not quite so simple, the UK is part of NATO. For them to do what you suggest would mean that they'd have to withdraw from the alliance, or kick out the yanks. Personally I think we should kick out the yanks...
It might make more sense for Britain to pull out of NATO - since they don't have the power/authority to force the US out. Britain should probably wean itself away from NATO and form closer ties with the EU's military force.
After all, NATO no longer serves a defensive purpose (if it ever did). The Soviet Union is now long gone but NATO trundles on - and now far outside Europe. In fact NATO should probably be disbanded altogether since it is now little more than a cover for US aggression. The fact that it still exists suggests that it's ostensible purpose is not now and probably never was defensive at all.
[The fact that it still exists suggests that it's ostensible purpose is not now and probably never was defensive at all.]
I always thought that the reason the military existed was to fight the last war. Every time there's a new war the military screws it up. You may be very right, the time of nato is long gone. I don't think that most of Europe, nor Canada for that matter, wants to be dragged into another war because the yanks have a problem with waging peace.
How about kicking out Washington and then leaving NATO? That seems like the responsible thing.
The Brits have been awfully polite about getting played for chumps in all this and in these wars following British footsteps back and forth through Central Asia. So supposedly England is worried about terrorists, but of course the terrorist threat is secondary to British involvement in Middle Eastern Empire, so the best way to prevent it would be to sever connections with the States on that score.
Dumping Washington from NATO and running them out of bases might be a nice filip and insurance, given the yanks' hostile moves towards Russia.
So, beside all this, what scraps are to fall the English for all their congeniality in this "coalition" and "willing" stuff? Has anybody made that clear?
Ah, with friends like these, who needs enemies? Anyone remember the The Hague Invasion Act? A direct threat to The Netherlands, in which I live, and what did 'my' government do? Just kept on kissing asses in Washingon!!
"Hague Invasion Act"
In keeping with the right of the US President to kidnap and indefinitely detain anyone on the globe the Hague Invasion Act was the symmetrical right to invade, using whatever means necessary, the International Criminal Court to secure the release of US citizens.
US citizens are special.
The British Foreign Secretary insists that Obama's Secretary of State personally threatened that the U.S. would conceal information about terrorist plots from the British ... Can anyone justify that?
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Justify what?
Ask 100 Americans about Binyam Mohamed and the Obama/Clinton cover-up you'll get a blank stare from all 100.
As long as the corporate radio and TV media continue to censor this story it'll fade away just like all the other war crimes.
Remember, NOTHING EXISTS until it's seen on TV or heard repeatedly on radio.
Without a Fairness Doctrine, which would guarantee all voices access to the public's airwaves, this will NOT change.
EVER.
Until the airwaves are returned to their owners, the public,...Accountability is Dead. Rule of Law is Dead. Democracy is Dead.
Whoever controls the media controls the country. Period.
We are no longer even pretending to be a country based on the rule of law. There are no laws to protect us. We are at the mercy of those with the biggest guns and all the jails. Act accordingly fellow citizens. The game is over, and it wasn't we the people who won. We are on our own.
I myself am working on a lawsuit. It is a difficult, frustrating process because justice is being avoided today, it is being hindered, it is not being actively sought. If ANY of you have issues with ANY aspect of corporate control over your life, however slight (because, in actuality they are NOT slight) I would like it if you would call an attorney. Today.
I would like to see a flood of calls placed across this wasteland we still call America, to attorneys-at-law, everywhere, to wake them up to their responsilities....
I am going to keep doing my part and keep hunting until I find an attorney who will represent me and who will get me the just compensation I am owed.
If EVERYONE demands justice, it will happen. And that will include those most unfortunate of souls, those tortured--ie., so-called 'suspected terrorists--unmercifully, at the hands of our corrupt U.S. government and military.
We're all suspected terrorists now, we're all 'military prisoners', until we retake our rights and our freedom.
thanks,
nedlud
And it's not like lawyers are easily available to us. I recently tried to talk to a lawyer on a personal family matter -- all I needed was an hour of Q&A to clarify my position, but to even explain my case the cheapest I could find was $200.00 for an hour. The Bar Association used to have a service where you could talk to a lawyer for a half hour for a small fee, but when I took my situation there no lawyer was willing to talk to me -- unless I forked over the $200.00.
As to my work situation, where legal issues abound, I am too busy trying to survive in increasingly stressful and insecure work situation to "keep hunting until I find an attorney who will represent me and who will get me the just compensation I am owed."
The ACLU, of which I am a dues-paying member, is swamped with issues. If someone could come up with a list of patriotic pro-bono lawyers willing to fight for folks, that would help.
I sympathize, but $200 an hour for expert advice doesn't seem unreasonable, considering I have to pay $165 for a 5-minute visit to my physician. (The five minutes doesn't include, of course, the 35 minutes in the waiting room, and then the 15 minute wait in the exam room.)
Ho ho ho!
You're going to try to tell me a price is reasonable by comparing it with what you pay in the United States for a physician?
Please pardon the probably misplaced ad hominem, but you have just given me the sneaking impression that you may think that lawyers charge reasonable prices because you are the kind of American who has the money to see a physician, and one inside the US at that.
Forgive my curiosity, but does the 50 minute wait mean that you have gone when you arrived ambulatory and not thru the back door at ER watching the neon lights slide overhead?
Of course, doctors in the States are cheap compared to what one pays there for military hardware.
Thank God laughter's so cheap.
Well that depends on what one can pay. I just got off the phone with a law firm that seemed very interested in me. I am a disadvantaged poor farmer who has been maltreated. There are lawyers, just as there are doctors, who will work outside of the system as it normally presents itself. There are lawyers (and doctors) that have internal ethics and a feeling of social responsibility. Now, in my case, will this particular law firm actually end up representing and pursuing my case vigorously on a pro bono basis? Maybe or maybe not. Most likely not. But in between all the 'business-as-usual' types who mechanically regulate their fee structure and their decisions on money and money success alone and have almost no genuine concern for disparity among regular people, there are a few horses of a different color. This is what the disadvantaged must work toward finding; and then hopefully we can all share in the proper redistribution of wealth and, JUSTICE.
Lawyers, good lawyers who actually care? We need you!
I note that Glenn Greenwald has been or is a lawyer. And he seems to be of a different cut or mold from the ordinary. And see? I'm one who disdains lawyers, yet I love Glenn Greenwald....
I know, I know. Please keep trying, sir. What state are you in? I am in Minnesota and there are lists of lawyers that will give a free consultation and also work pro bono, depending. My understanding at least in part, is that lawyers are pressing for work too. Some of them anyway. In other words, the bad economy is shrinking some of their fortunes as well. Not probably as bad as the rest of us, but maybe somewhat and that may cause enough of them to relieve themselves of some of their arrogance and distance. Please keep trying sir, I appreciate it. We have to dissolve (destroy completely) this corporate malevolence. It's going to take everything we can muster to do so.
thank you,
nedlud
nedlud July 30th, 2009 8:35 am.....The best of luck. BUT, do they not control the justice system, even if you get a good attorney....and sometimes at the lowest level? When NYC CAN presented 70,000 suignatures to a clerk in NYC to get the 9/11 initiative on the November ballot, the clerk simply rejected the petition with some flimsy excuse....some minor technicality, even though they had 40,000 MORE signatures than required by law.
Anyway, I wish you the best.
There are some victories taking place. Not many but some.
Thanks so much for your support. I am not happy about any of this, this need for legal maneuvers/litigation; it has always been my interest (preference) to just treat people fair, give them plenty of room and to expect (and get) the same in return. The level of corruption/evil now though, is so HIGH and HUGE that we have no choice but to fight back and to fight back hard. That is what I am doing. Again, it is NOT my preference. Such is the state of the world, alas.
Thanks again.
your friend,
nedlud
nedlud July 30th, 2009 11:03 am...I would say that when one is pushed into a corner (I am assuming this is your situation), one must fight or die. This is what's happening to We the People RIGHT NOW. There really is no choice but to fight....with whatever method is left to one's disposal. Now, our intention must be to help others come to this realization. In today's America, the primal urge of fight or flight is no longer feasible. It's fight or stay in slavery.
Well said. These are difficult times.
Thank you sir.